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Game Thread: FIBA 2010 Preliminary Round - Game 3 - Team USA vs Brazil

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The speed and athleticism of Team USA was just amazing to watch earlier this morning. Their quickness closed down on open Slovenia players, cutting off would-be open shots before Slovenia could shoot them. Their athleticism collapsed all over the Slovenia players, which included some nice at-the-rim defense. Their quickness AND athleticism combined for some unstoppable fast break attacks from steals and in transition. I expect other teams to start employing the hack-a-fast-break just to slow down USA.

There are a couple of areas of concern. First, complaining to the refs. USA is spending too much time complaining and arguing with the refs. Second, that ugly 2nd qtr lull. USA lost their focus, got sloppy and careless, and gave up a bunch of turnovers. When the Knockout Round comes in the one-and-done format, there'll be no time for arguing or sloppiness.

Anyway, on to the next game. The word is that these 1st 3 games are the top opponents of Group B, and so far, USA has dismantled 2 of them. Brazil is next on their list. After that, a well earned relaxing day off. Unless we lose to Brazil. Then a well deserved video-tape watching day off.

Familiar names on Brazil: Leandro Barbosa, Anderson Varejao, Tiago Splitter

Preliminary round lineup:

Day Date Opponent Live PDT Live Chan Replay PDT Replay Chan
Mon Aug 30 Brazil 11:30am ESPN, espn3.com 8:00pm ESPN2
Wed Sep 01 Iran 9:00am ESPN, espn3.com 8:00pm ESPN2
Thu Sep 02 Tunisia 6:30am ESPN2, espn3.com 9:30pm ESPN2

Star-divide

11:30am - I get to sleep in for this one!

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I'm brasilian and...

…we’ll crush USA 139 × 81 easily with a 40pts-20rebs-15ast—12stls-10blks performance by Leandrinho (Leandro Barbosa).

LOL :-)

Just kidding…. too bad Nenê won’t play for us. And too bad Marcelo Machado WILL play for us, he’s a John Stark’s type of player, ofter going 2-12 on 3pts and very occasionally goign 10-12 on threes…

Alex Garcia is a good player to watch, very very very athletic (played in NBA for the Hornets for 2/3 seasons until tearing his ACL). Marcus Vinicius also played for the Hornets sparingly ~2years ago….

But overall the brasilian team is not good. It’s above average on defense but terrible on offense – does anyone watched the games against Iran and Tunisia? Ouch, terrible terrible offensive setups and plays…

I don’t think we’re able to beat Croatia or Slovenia either.

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by Gaucho! on Aug 30, 2010 5:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Good luck!

I haven’t watched any of Brazil’s games yet. Barbosa’s speed will get put to the test since Team USA is one of the most athletic teams in the tournament right now.

by Precise Films Productions on Aug 30, 2010 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

almost overslept for this game

looks evenly matched halfway through the 1st

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Kevin Love has 21 rebounds in 27 minutes?

Damn.

"You're all like big fat failure turtles." - Edge

by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 30, 2010 11:46 AM PDT reply actions  

my goodness!

barbosa with an off balance 3. Brazil up 4

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

I am disappointed so far.

"You're all like big fat failure turtles." - Edge

by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 30, 2010 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Take Westbrook out!

Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy

We'll miss you Frown-Face Randolph. "You came, you cried, you almost conquered."

by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Durant's D

is bad..

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

crap!

Just when I thought the Spurs days are done – Tiago Splitter play makes me think they might still be a good team for while. One more team dubs trying to catch up with.

by tjmax on Aug 30, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Splitter

Yeah, I watched him play before…the guy is a BEAST
he may be the Duncan to….Duncan?…Robinson?

Just remembering when Duncan came in and got to play next to Robinson for his last year

Remember:
A Warriors fan with low expectations is a happy Warriors fan

by Duby Dub Dubs on Aug 30, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I’m finally ready to admit it, Durants better at basketball than I am.

by 123707THIZZ on Aug 30, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

this fast pace will suit Curry's game

if he gets any minutes. this one is perfect for him to shine

by tjmax on Aug 30, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

link? I can’t watch espn3 on my network. It’s not “affiliated”

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Brazil 33, US 30 2nd 6:06

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah,

Kinda like street ball… Gonna be hard for the US to play against these teams who have played together and have set plays.

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rose is sick

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

argh

AGAIN, nice USA steal, dumb pass to give the ball back

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

BRA 40 USA 38 2nd 2:45

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

hahahaha

Gay might have gotten away with a foul on that block at the rim

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

You should see them play socker…

"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."

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by qin on Aug 30, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

socker… really lol

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by qin on Aug 30, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sit on the bench Westbrook

Scrubbin’ it

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

whats with all the flopping?

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by qin on Aug 30, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

wow

brazil with a behind the back pass to a streaking big for the throwdown

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

You’d have to, I think. Healthier, better rebounder for his position, more versatile…

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRA 46 USA 43 HALF

USA has NO team cohesion!

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Durant looking not in full control of that final fast break

i can’t believe we’re only down 3. I feel like we should be down way more

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Come on, ESPN

you keep having “technical difficulties” with the clock every game

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 12:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Just got here

Tough game it looks like, and ugly TO there

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Ugly possession....ugly ugly possession....

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

US with the lead!

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Brazil playing zone?

Why no zone busting from Curry and Gordon?

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 12:35 PM PDT reply actions  

oh man

splitter bailed out by the whistle.

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

BRA 53 USA 33 3rd 3:30

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

BRA 55 USA 57

whoops

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Alright, nice play there

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh no, Lamar's back in

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

BRA 55 USA 61 3rd 1:01

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks, man for the updates. No stream for me :P. Can’t get atdhe to work nor espn3.

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah for sure..

I used to have the same problem, so I always liked getting the score updates too!

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

ouch

barbosa rescuing that possession for Brazil. Brazil execution and finding the open man continues to impress

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow.....

So the refs right next to the play doesn’t call it, but the ref all the way in the back does?!?!?!?!

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Dirtbag, that one.

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was almost funny

He comes running from off screen to blow the whistle and call the foul

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you guys ever seen old school basketball footage

Where they have a camera focused on the shot clock and game clock, and then they splice in the 2nd camera view in the bottom corner? Why can’t ESPN do that since they can’t fix their clock display problems?

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Beginning of 4th BRA 59 USA 61

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

one thing i have noticed about these games

more intense to watch because of fewer commercials

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

anyone else have an issue with Varejo?

Maybe the hair? Just don’t like him..

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Thats pretty cool

This style of play is more like college than NBA, it seems like.

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's chucking!

Like the commentators are saying, too much one pass then quick shot possessions.

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRA 62 USA 62 4th 7:50

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

These last few drives have been like the Warriors in midseason form

Lots of chucking lol

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

lol omg..odom is pathetic

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

why is odom

wearing a headband? haha

I thought that was Dampier for a second.

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by disguy on Aug 30, 2010 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

lol ballboys, get outta the way!!!

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmm

They have to get on their knees, not fancy circular mop thing we have here

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRA 62 USA 66 6:15

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 1:06 PM PDT reply actions  

aww wtf Rose, just do the simple play

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I play coaching on this one

Offense is far too one dimensional – too much one on one ball. Curry needs to play more to offset Brazil’s threes

by tjmax on Aug 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

neither side playing much defense

only real defense has been on bad turnovers and steals – curry can do both!

by tjmax on Aug 30, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Been lots of screens to run through though

Curry cant quite run through them well yet

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

They do

you need to pay $5 per game for it, as well as already have an Insider account

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lamar dribbling out of bounds...oh geese

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Doing his Pietrus impression

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRA 64 USA 68 4th 3:15

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Again, thanks.

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

would you prefer...

to see Curry play great, learn the game more, improve all around and we come in, say fourth place at the end of the tourney
OR
Curry continue to suck and stay on the bench and we get gold?

by tjmax on Aug 30, 2010 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

What's option 3?

Curry sits on the bench while Team USA plays sloppy sloppy sloppy?

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only care about the Dubs

I’d take 4th place if Curry emerges as a better player for us

by tjmax on Aug 30, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s probably not going to read this thread. ha ha ha

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope

I want Curry to have the opposite view of mine – I just care more about his development than this contest

by tjmax on Aug 30, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

USA team

Sloppy turn overs

iggy looked hurt on the last play

by adoboguy on Aug 30, 2010 1:14 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

BRA 64 USA 68 4th 1:45

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Is Love in? He’s been good.

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, Lee=horrendous defender. Odom=decent.

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how the offensive dynamic would be with Lee and Amare

Defesivley, at least we’d have more tall ppl I guess lol

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Against this team? Quite likely.

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRA 66 USA 70 4th :40

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes. It’s so amazing that a guy named Chauncey can do anything tough. heh heh

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he follows it up with a dribble-dribble-3pt shot

/sigh

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow!

Now goal tending?! Horrible sequence of plays by the USA squad. Can’t get any offense in the 4th. smh

by adoboguy on Aug 30, 2010 1:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Cheaters hatin’ on America.

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

us up 2 now, bra shooting foul with 4 secs left!

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by Baygiant11 on Aug 30, 2010 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, crap.

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Phew!!!!

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

technically, they COULD

they went for the intentional missed FT, they got the rebound, they kicked it inside, they missed a defended close shot, buzzer, end game

by IQofaWarrior on Aug 30, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

lmao, thank got we have rebounders...oh wait

Got very lucky there

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

US got lucky

Thank you to the Brazilian lady in the off white blouse in the stands they kept putting on tv – you were the best part of the game.
Curry sat on the end of the bench, not even watching end of the game, looked dejected.

by tjmax on Aug 30, 2010 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I think maybe Coach K has realized Curry is not good off the bench. That was true all last season. He needs to start for some reason. I don’t think he’ll get that chance.

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who was that lady?

They showed her repeatedly haha

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by disguy on Aug 30, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

she was hot

maybe she was Tiago’s lady – she was getting awful animated when he was playing. Lucky guy for many reasons

by tjmax on Aug 30, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, hopefully this is a wake up call for Team USA

Billups needs to be smarter, for every tough shot he made, seems like he had an equally dumb shot.

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by Badly Browned on Aug 30, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn close game

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by thecity23 on Aug 30, 2010 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I feel very relieved. Holy cow.

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by Naticus on Aug 30, 2010 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

well, it was better than what I initially tought

Good to see Marcelo Huertas getting mature and accepting the challenge against the much better, quicker and stronger USA backcourt.

That block by Igodala on Marcus Vinicius on the rim was pathetic, he was afraid to get blocked as soon as he received the ball, going to the basket…. this is his main problem: he get intimated too easily and is a weak finisher, despite an excellent body at 6’8"/235lbs and above average leaping ability. Also, he falls in love too much with the 3pt shot (actually he was 4/5 on threes yesterday), he could be a Tracy McGrady-type of player if he only could improve his confidence…

Also, JP Batista (that fat, lazy 6’9" center) is a total waste of another excellent body + skills. He’s too sleepy, too lazy to get better. Still he gets excellent positions for rebounds, set picks with authority, rolls pretty well to the basket and has very consistent a mid range jumper. But he just gives up too early, like to tip the ball on the off boards (when he could easily pull it down and go for a dunk – 2 times yesterday).

Brasil should have explored more Tiago Splitter inside. Anderson Varejão is a joke, he does not excell in anything but in flops, he can’t have a play set for him beucase he has no moves around de basket, no jumpshot, no offensive game at all. All he does is to fight for the ball, dive for loose ones, takes charge and box out for def rebounds.

Nenê was much more missed than Varejão. We could have used him to toss around Odom + Love. Also, Spittler benefits a lot when Nenê is on the court, their 1-2 game (high/low post) is quite efficient.

All in all it was a good game, USA played waaaaaaayyyyyyy too much one on one, that team needs some serious offensive sets, otherwise they won’t be able to beat the kinds of Spain and Argentina.

Cheers,

=Gaucho=

by Gaucho! on Aug 31, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

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