Game Thread: FIBA 2010 Preliminary Round - Game 4 - Team USA vs Iran
by IQofaWarrior on Sep 1, 2010 12:48 AM PDT
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Were we playing with an empty bench in that Brazil game?
According to this Associated Press article, Lesson learned, US will need more from its subs, Coach K didn't like what he saw from the bench, so he stuck with the starters for most of the game. Whether it's from youth and inexperience or "cracking under the pressure" against the well-executing offense of the Brazil team, the last game revealed a weakness on the Team USA bench, and they need to show up if Team USA wants to win 4 in a row in the Knockout Round to win the tournament.
The other weakness Brazil revealed in Team USA is the lack of a dynamic offense of Team USA. Brazil's offense executes very well, even when the ball has moved around to several players. Each player is capable of finding and passing to the open man on the weak side or finding an inside cutter. Conversely, Team USA had quite a few one-pass-and-score possessions. There's less cutting, less movement, less looking for an open man somewhere, and more one-on-one. At first I thought it was because I've seen too much Nellieball, but the Brazil offense made me realize otherwise. I don't know if this is because of the way Coach K approaches the offense, or if this is because the players have limited play making abilities, forcing Coach K to construct this simpler offense. Whatever the reason, Team USA will have to make up for the offense with outstanding athletic defense, because I don't think the offensive schemes are changing any time soon.
Onto today's game. The next 2 opponents should be much easier opponents, which will give Team's USA's bench a chance to get some playing time and the starters more rest time for the next round. Familiar names on Iran: Hamed Haddadi (Grizzlies)
Preliminary round lineup:
| Day | Date | Opponent | Live PDT | Live Chan | Replay PDT | Replay Chan |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed | Sep 01 | Iran | 9:00am | ESPN, espn3.com | 8:00pm | ESPN2 |
| Thu | Sep 02 | Tunisia | 6:30am | ESPN2, espn3.com | 9:30pm | ESPN2 |
So, how exactly are you supposed to pronounce "Iran", and "Iranian"? Anyone here from that area of the world know?
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I'm hoping Curry has some type of breakout game.
It’s weird how his shots haven’t been going in.
by Precise Films Productions on Sep 1, 2010 4:57 AM PDT reply actions
I'm just hoping I can stay awake for this game
I don’t think I’m going to make the live game this time
it is frustrating that
Coach K is knocking the play of the young guys but Curry got no PT in the Brazil game.
Hopefully he has a breakout game today.
Odd side note – I just bought a Haddadi jersey for my Iranian nephew for his birthday. Could not buy it from the grizzlies store so I had to order a custom jersey and put his name and number on it. Sort of like if I wanted to get a Beidrins jersey.
Exactly..
Why add a player to the roster and relegate them to the bench, especially when noting that “the bench” needs to be more productive?
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Curry has not played so great
that’s why he is riding the pine so much
his defense has been decent, but his shot’s way off
could be the FIBA ball weight (they are a little lighter I hear)
by Duby Dub Dubs on Sep 1, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
The ball
looks to be lighter; the way it bounces off the rim
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Pronounciation
Iran – “Eerawn”
Iranian – “Eerawnian”
Try that on for size. As long as you’re not saying “I ran so far,” you’re in the right direction.
Can we expect any impressive play out of the Iranian guards?
Not sure why im so excited..
…to root for a team in which I’m hardly a fan of any of the players facing an Iranian team, in which I have never really heard of any players. WTH, it’s basketball and as long as I have a “home team” to root for, I’m a go!
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USA 3 IRAN 0 1ST 8:21
Durant with an and 1 cutting to the rim.
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USA 11 IRAN 8 1ST 3:50
Definitely more athletic than Iran, but still looking ugly. Chandler just came in for Chauncey.
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lol at Rudy Gay passing to the other team
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USA 19 IRAN 11 1st :40
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for real
Don’t think there’s any way this team is going to beat a team like Argentina.
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Curry
getting scolded for running out shot clock before shooting and not making any passes
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to his defense
No one was free, everyone was just standing around
yeah, not the first time seeing that from this team!
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he should have
tossed up a floater from just inside the free throw line
USA 24 IRAN 13 2nd 9:00
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Commentator wants Curry to be benched
TO coming from a behind the back pass on a fast break after he stole the ball
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Curry needs to be more careful with the ball!
this was a big problem for him last year. I think his high TO rate has more to do with sloppiness rather than fumbles
by Duby Dub Dubs on Sep 1, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
USA 26 IRAN 16 2nd 6:20
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Curry looks better as a Warrior than in team USA
When he is the unquestioned leader on the floor, he plays his best
That, and he was playing with no pressure last season
Here, he needs to take the game seriously
Kevin Love busts a 3
7 straight points
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Well, we have Lee
And if he didn’t get injured, he’d probably be starting for USA. That being said, an argument can be made that we could have gotten Love instead of Lee (courtesy of TK).
Confident Marco Belinelli supporter
Ode to Tim Kawakami
by Doctor Kajita on Sep 1, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
billups should go to the bench now
his bad pass was worse than curry’s
Gordon, Billups and Rose look better than Curry
Stephen hasn’t played this badly since early last season
USA 35 IRAN 24 2nd 3:10
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This is still an ugly game with no high quality execution
Is it also possible USA is “holding back” so as not to reveal anything in this game?
I'm not looking forward to writing tomorrow's thread
I have nothing to work with from this game so far
lots of TOs
by everyone, curry had a couple of nice steals.
USA 43 IRAN 28 HALF
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Team USA will be better in the 2nd half
Iran will be bombed out of the building the rest of the game
lol, thought i'd ask
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If Iran had bigger players
They can terrorize the boards
Team Canada already out of Championship
If the court were icier they’d be more competitive
It's like USA flipped on a switch to defend harder
or Iran turned off their switch and stopped caring
Iran is falling apart!
three TOs in a row
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OK, i see how the point system works
You get 2 points for every win and 1 point for every loss. So a 5-0 record is 10 points, 0-5 is 5 points
USA 50 IRAN 30 3rd 7:05
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D. Rose
Scoring in the lane at will
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Not gonna lie..
Haven’t watched Iguodola play much, but from what I’ve seen in these games I haven’t been impressed. I suppose could say the same about Curry though.
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USA 57 IRAN 34 3rd 2:42
Update!
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so the only interesting thing is whether curry comes back
or whether he’s stays on the bench and in the doghouse
got my money on doghouse
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How come Love isn't playing?
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Curry steps in from behind 3 point line and hits a jumper
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gordon was free there for a 3
curry would have found him
Commentators "Curry is fundamentally strong, he just needs to play within himself."
Concurred!
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Yup
Curry is the youngest guy on the team
The San Fransisco 49ers, where we got Dix, VD and Crabs!
by Badly Browned on Sep 1, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, young as in
Least expierenced
The San Fransisco 49ers, where we got Dix, VD and Crabs!
by Badly Browned on Sep 1, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
wow, from that overhead angle
that trapezoid paint is WIDER angled than i thought
Yeah, not sure why the dimensions are so much different in FIBA
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62 USA 39 IRAN - END OF 3RD
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wow Westbrook
again sloppy, sloppy, sloppy
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questionable reach in called on Curry
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Curry to Chandler
looks like CP3 to Chandler
USA 72 IRAN 47 4TH 6:20
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If we win, we will have almost nothing to play for in Game 5
the only thing to play for is the bragging rights of having a perfect 5-0 in this round
USA 79 IRAN 51 4TH 2:30
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Later y'all
gotta go study some JAVA. exciting stuff
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yup, the programming language
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Yep, my Intro to Java class starts Sep. 20th
..but got the book to study before that. Want to go in knowing as much as possible
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I didn't get to see the game.....
…but I’m guessing from the box score that Curry filled more of a PG role? 5 assists and 4 rebounds. Shot apparently still isn’t really falling, and the fact that, according to the comments, he tried ANOTHER behind the back pass is frustrating. He makes great decisions most of the time, but for some reason he’s attached to this behind the back pass…he did it a lot last season and already a few times in limited minutes in this tourney. Play smart, Steph! Especially if your shot isn’t falling.
Well...
He did connect on a lot of those behind the back passes last season, missed a lot of them too though
The San Fransisco 49ers, where we got Dix, VD and Crabs!
Oops reply fail
Just look at how many behind the back passes Stpeth connected on last season
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by Badly Browned on Sep 1, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I love
the Curry behind the back passes though. He just needs to learn when to use them and when not to. He probably could have had one today but he just didn’t pass the ball right
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I'm not against the pass per se....
…. just has to be a smart decision. He often goes for it when a simple bounce pass or dish will achieve the same goal with a much higher %. I just find it an odd quirk in his otherwise fundamentally sound game, and it’s twice as frustrating when unnecessary showmanship causes turnovers. For someone with a fairly high turnover rate, he shouldn’t be doing any of that kind of playground garbage til he figures out how to protect the ball.
Fran Frascilla is a hack.
All this guy does is point out the fact that The US team doesn’t execute offensive schemes, and commits too many turnovers, ad nauseum. What else is new about NBA players? Next he’s going to tell me they get tattoos of bible verses on their appendages. How insightful!
Then there was Curry’s behind the back pass. Fraschilla jumped all over that like a Jersey Shore cast member on a grenade. Yeah, what a revelation. A guy threw the ball away and got pulled from the game. No need for the chubby. Guess what? The possession never would have even occurred were it not for Curry’s sly steal on the other end. Guess what else? That was a pass he can make. He’s only going to get better at it as he continues to expand his game as a distributor, Fraschilla and his ilk be damned.
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Sep 2, 2010 12:45 AM PDT reply actions
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