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Did the national/ local media and fans alike vastly overrate Anthony Randolph? It's pretty surprising that he's even rumored in a trade for Rudy Fernandez. Also note that Kelenna Azubuike is still (very sadly) injured.

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Although Randolph very well might have been overrated by local and national media (as many young athletic players with "potential" are)

I don’t think that judging whether a player is overrated or not by the trade rumors that they are involved in is a good way of deciding that. Also, remember that even if the trade really was offered (and who knows if it actually was) it got rejected for a reason…

by freerandolph on Sep 3, 2010 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

That and both the poster as well as the people replying are adamantly opposed to getting rid of AR, so I really do not know where AB1 is coming from with this one.

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by qin on Sep 3, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

"so I really do not know where AB1 is coming from with this one."

pretty simple really. he probably means that if AR’s value around the league is perceived to be akin to Rudy Fernandez’s, perhaps dub fans and knick fans may be guilty of a little homerism.

by the evil monkey on Sep 3, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to a team source, Knicks president Donnie Walsh recently rejected a three-team deal that would have sent Anthony Randolph to Indiana, a first-round pick to Portland and Fernandez to New York.

I don’t see where his value is low I see “let’s give you someone who really does not want to be here for your prospect”. Then I see the Knicks laughing before they hang up.

"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."

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by qin on Sep 3, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not that surprising to me

After all, our Stephen Curry was in the trade rumors for Carmelo Anthony recently. It would be more surprising to me if the Knicks “offered” Randolph in a trade, considering Randolph was the player they wanted to get.

by IQofaWarrior on Sep 3, 2010 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

A lot of people reported Kicks were keen on Randolph for a future trade..

They aren’t looking to rebuild, but a trade centered around randolph, draft pick and expirings might be able to attract CP3 or Melo

by tafkasam on Sep 3, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not as much that the Knicks were keen to trading Anthony in the future,

It’s that Denver more or less required that either Randolph or Gallinari (potentially even both) be included before they even consider a Melo to NY trade.

"He's the straw that makes the drink go."

by Thelonious Dunk on Sep 4, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad about Buike. It’s a cut throat business. At least he got a little money on the books before he got hurt. He seems like a hard worker so hope he ends up with a successful career.

My take on Randolph is that he is a complete enigma to the rest of the league. No one (even he, I imagine) seems to know what to expect from him, which doesn’t make much sense to me. I have a pretty good idea of what kind of a player he is. He is a great rebounder and shot blocker, who is capable of making highlight-reel plays off the dribble, is too in-love with his jumpshot, fouls way too much, and is generally kind of a headcase. Everyone seems to think he is either boom or bust. I can imagine a pretty clear scenario in which he doesn’t really change all that much from who he is right now.

The Blazers are doing this dangle thing pretty well though. They have a marginal asset in Rudy Fernandez. He’s not that good, which is why they don’t mind moving him. But they know at some point, some team might be dumb enough or desperate enough to give up a high-reward potential player like AR. Rather than just dumping Rudy for Jamal Crawfor(d) or some other warm body, they are treating an asset like an asset.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Sep 3, 2010 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Rudy Fernandez can't be worth much ....

We have a player who isn’t good enough to be a starter and everybody knows the Blazers are trying to move him …. the Blazers are dreaming if they think they’ll get a first round pick for Rudy.

If this trade rumor is real, Indiana had a shot to pull off another great deal this off-season.

btw,
INot much of a Knicks fan, so does anyone know if Rudy is viewed that highly by Knicks managment? If the Knicks want him that bad, I’m sure plenty of teams are willing to jump into the ring & join the Knicks/Blazers in a multi-team trade.

by srsrs on Sep 3, 2010 10:36 AM PDT reply actions  

NYK wasn't trying to trade him

Indy was trying to get him

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by dubzfan on Sep 3, 2010 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

the point he’s trying to make is that the Blazers and/or Pacers felt this was a legitimate offer for the likes of Anthony Randolph and he expresses shock that AR would even be mentioned in a trade for the likes of Rudy Fernandez.

by the evil monkey on Sep 3, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

legitimate, or fishing?

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by qin on Sep 3, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Rudy Fernandez

But I can’t help feeling there’s a chance it’s cover to trade Monta

by tafkasam on Sep 3, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Indiana trying to trade small for big, huh? Somehow, I don’t think the Knicks are dumb enough to trade a guy who can average 10 boards a night, 1.5 blocks and a whole lot of trying way too hard and rushing things… well… that last part isn’t so good, but you know what I mean.

Randolph has too much up-side, even if he is overrated, to be traded for Fernandez. If Randolph has a jumper this year, he’ll be less harmful on offense. It’ll make him interesting, that’s for sure.

Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.

by Naticus on Sep 3, 2010 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

AR = BUST

AR ain’t nothin’ special. His basketball IQ (smarts) ain’t good. He’s a spoiled, immature baby who pouts. Does he come ready to play? No. Is he hungry? No. I’ll take a hungry D-leaguer anyday. AR expects it to be given to him. He was coddled by soft Bay Area fans. The Garden fans only want ‘hustle’. AR will get roasted there.

keep on truckin...

by burneyfalls1 on Sep 3, 2010 6:11 PM PDT reply actions  

He's 20

too early to call him anything

Carmelo Shmarmelo

by Reverend_Randy on Sep 3, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe New York will humble him. That might help, actually.

Welcome to the Pit of Despair! Don't even think about trying to escape.

by Naticus on Sep 4, 2010 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just curious

I made a comment on this page about the Blazers and saw there was a response to it so I went here to look and sure enough I can’t find it. Just curious what happened is all, since it was a pretty benign comment.

Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed

by wallywagon11 on Sep 4, 2010 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Let us know if you hear back why

I’ve noticed some seemingly minor comments disapear too

by WestCoastWarrior on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

never heard back

I am guessing it must have started an interesting thread of some sort. I could be wrong but I seem to recall all I said was that the Blazers are stingy in trade talks and were rumored to even turn down Nicole Batum for the 4th pick with the TWolves this past draft (although yeah I like Batum).

Oh well.

Because talent? You want to add a guy like boozer because hes talented? I’m sorry i just don’t see that as a valid reason. -- fffindeed

by wallywagon11 on Sep 7, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

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