Golden State Warriors Sign Rodney Carney- Going back to 2006 with Patrick O'Bryant + Kosta Perovic
by Atma Brother ONE on Sep 8, 2010 6:27 PM PDT
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Going Back to 2006
Rodney Carney is of course a member of the 2006 NBA Draft Class, one that I would rate as one of the worst classes in the modern era of hoops. There aren't many drafts where guys like Andrea Bargnani, Adam Morrison, or Shelden Williams can go in the top 5, but stunningly all 3 of these guys went in the top 5 of this draft. But thinking back to our usual pre-draft madness back then, I was a big champion of Carney to the Dubs with the #9 pick (especially after Rudy Gay went #8 to the Houston Rockets). Several years into his career Carney hasn't even begun to approach what I expected of him, but he's a whole lot better than the notorious one Chris Mullin selected for the Dubs at #9. Come to think of it Carney is a whole lot better than the combination of the Warriors #9 and #38 pick that draft. I'm talking about none other than...
Patrick O'Bryant @ #9
Wait is this photoshopped? I don't remember POB ever actually playing.
From the archives:
- 2k6-2k7 REPORT CARD: Patrick O'Bryant
- A Notorious Comeback?
- Patrick O'Bryant Will Be Jammin' in the D-League for the Rest of the Season
- Warriors Bringing Patrick O'Bryant Back to the NBA
- Patrick O'Bryant aka The Notorious P.O.B. Will Be Jammin' in the D-League
- All about the D-League
From the draft time madness:
- NBA Draft 2006: POB- Everything Warrior Fans ever wanted to know!
- NBA Draft 2006: YOUR GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS TAKE...
- NBA Draft 2006: Patrick O'Bryant is our Newest Warrior
- NBA Draft 2006: Warrior Wrapup!
- Your Grade for the Warriors' 2006 Draft and Why
- NBA Draft 2006: Warriors Nations' Grade for the Warriors
- Warriors Get to Cooking
- NBA Draft 2006: Grading the Warriors
- 2006 Mock Drafts
- Live Blogging the 2006 NBA Draft
Kosta Perovic @ #38
The Zero Threat Position made famous here at GSoM.
GSoM Kosta Archive:
- NBA Draft 2006: With the #38 pick, the Golden State Warriors take...
- NBA Draft 2006: Warrior Wrapup
- NBA Draft 2006: Warriors Nations' Grade for the Warriors
- NBA Draft 2006: Kosta Perovic hype
- Golden State of Mind Q&A with Janny Hu
- Golden State of Mind Q&A with Marcus Thompson
- FIBA 2006: Warriors World Championships
- Yi's a Sure Thing + Coast II Coast Bust
- Rumor: Jason Richardson + #18 pick to Grizzlies, Celtics or Bobcats
- Kosta Perovic Will Be Jammin'
Here's hoping Carney realizes some of that potential I thought I saw back in '06!
Thanks to the GSoM community for the FanShots and great discussion:
- Scott Howard Cooper Tweet: Warriors to sign Rodney Carney (scraider)
- Interview video (iHypeTV)
- OFFICIAL: Rodney Carney Signed By Warriors! (iHypeTV)
- Golden State filling out the roster with Rodney Carney, Jeff Adrien (currysabeast)
- Intervi
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Atma taking a senseless opportunity to bash Chris Mullin? Who would have thought?
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by GovernorStephCurry on Sep 8, 2010 6:40 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Montadaboss taking a senseless opportunity to bash Atma? Who would have thought?
I dunno, of the one game I remember Perovic playing, he D’d up (much more awkward to write than to say) Suns-version Shaq decently. Not sure if he couldn’t have been a contributor, he never got any kind of a chance.
Yes...
…that was the Phoenix game we needed at the end of the 07-08 season.
As for O’Bryant, he did indeed play from time to time. In fact, he had the best game of his career against the Clippers that same year, at which point DJ Mbenga was signed and given the backup minutes. Despite the fact that it’s become taboo to suggest anything regarding Patrick O’Bryant other than “bust,” I will humbly suggest that making that move after he’d finally busted out with a good all-around game isn’t the sort of thing I’d do. Certainly not when the payoff is ten minutes of DJ Mbenga in the middle, who’s hands could make Adonal Foyle’s seem deft.
Rodney...
talks like CJ. (or laughs like him. giggle? do men even giggle?) His personality is like Kelenna, but he looks like Chris Rock. Hm..maybe I miss the old guys…
From
what I have read he looks pretty good on paper but he definetly needs to know how to get to the hoop
by Curry is amazing on Sep 8, 2010 6:53 PM PDT reply actions
haha zero threat
if carney can turn out to be a pietrus i’d be very very happy
Goal: 8 seed!
That’s been my thinking. Also, I think he should score pretty well on fast breaks, so his FG% could rise significantly.
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And steps out of bounds on a set play with the best of them?
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
by qin on Sep 9, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha i saw Perovic on the Serbia bench this morning
"The No. 1 thing (fans need to know): we’re going to do our damnedest to bring the Warriors to respectability on the basketball court." - Joe Lacob
I wanted Ronnie Brewer in 06'.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
I’m not seeing the parallel here. Bringing up Kosta and Patrick? What in the world? This guy has played in the NBA for a while and can play defense okay and has a good 3. He’s also extremely strong and athletic. He’ll be fine off the bench, and most importantly, we aren’t using our draft picks on them.
Also, who should we have gotten instead? It’s not like everyone will work for cheap.
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He shot 30% on 3's last year.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Sep 8, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
30% isn’t ‘passable’. It’s “he should never, ever take that shot save in desperation at the end of a quarter or if the ball bounces off of someone and it accidentally finds its way into his hands without enough time to pass to someone else” level. Granted, he approached passable in the prior season, but shooting is not his strong point. Unless he shows appreciable improvement, which is possible with the long range shot, I he should not take it. The scary part though is that he does not seem to notice how poorly he shoots the long ball, attempting ~6 per 36. Half of his attempts the last couple of years have been 3s and he is not very good at making them. Given that the chances of being fouled on 3s is real low, this means that most of the time he shoots, good things do not happen.
Carney better be a defensive wiz, because his offense stinks.
by jae on Sep 10, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's worth noting...
…that looking at Carney’s career numbers, you can’t even really say he’s better than POB. Patrick and Rodney are both inefficient scorers (which is of less consequence for an SF I suppose), but Rodney is worse, especially when you see that POB’s first year’s TS% was epically abysmal, but he’s been consistently better (though declining year by year, still better than Carney) since. Carney, on the other hand, in many more minutes, has fluctuated around but despite whatever physical skills he has, he’s still crap on offense. He bests POB by a lot in turnovers and fouls, though.
This is not so much as to judge one better than the other, merely to suggest that there isn’t as much hard evidence Patrick O’Bryant is a significantly worse (which is what Atma said, that Carney was a “whole lot better” than POB) pick than Carney. Furthermore, to say that Carney is clearly better than POB and Perovic together, I think is more rhetoric than fact. If I were running a hoops team, I’d rather have two big bodies on the bench than Rodney Carney sitting over there,
I can say he’s better than POB, because POB was a center who was supposed to be able to play defense and rebound, but he couldn’t. That means he was a handicap. Carney, on the other hand, is decent on defense. On offense, this is a different system than Carney has been in and with Curry, he may be the recipient of some nice passes for high % shots.
Also, the most important thing is that we didn’t use up a pick to get him; we have to pay SOMEONE to be a backup here, and why not him? He’s not expensive, is not a handicap as POB was on defense and his physical gifts give him potential to contribute on offense in the right system.
For the price, I’d say it’s a fine pick and a worthy gamble.
In fact, I am not convinced that POB was a horrible pick. He turned out to be inferior as an NBA player, but he did some good things in college and has great size. He looked like someone to gamble on; obviously, if you gamble, you might lose. We lost out on J.J. Reddick, and if we were psychic, perhaps we could’ve gotten Rajon Rondo.
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As far as the mullin bashing
He did what he could with a defunct FO, produced when others couldn’t, made rookie GM mistakes but did a good job when pulling together the players… Players love the guy for a reason… I think his GM experience as a whole has left a sour taste in his mouth n he would probably think twice before taking another GM possition (if even offered one) again…
That being said u can’t blame mullin for being the man in such a horrible draft class. There was obviously only a few gems in that draft and most of those had to be polished thoroughly!!
by RTM707 on Sep 10, 2010 3:01 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
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