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Potentially limiting our selection of centers to go after in the off-season.

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held hostage by potential

what an unfortunate position for the blazers

Goal: 8 seed!

by dso on Jan 23, 2011 4:35 PM PST reply actions  

yes to Nene

I doubt Jordan will be available

But I would take Nene for sure. Not the ideal solution for us at C, since we need a ferocious rim-protector. But if those are the options…

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 25, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

No need to trade for Jordan. If the Clippers resign him, they won’t have money for Eric Gordon extension. Make him a restricted FA offer.

by BayLife5518 on Jan 23, 2011 5:54 PM PST reply actions  

i wanted him in that draft

good thing we got AR? i guess he netted us david lee. lets hope that turns out well…

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possibly the only cal + SC fan in the world

by gogoldenbears on Jan 24, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He was a second rounder

He’ll be a unrestricted free agent.

by Airete on Jan 24, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

How much you think a guy like Jordan will demand? 9-10 million maybe?

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by golden_solitude on Jan 23, 2011 6:02 PM PST reply actions  

Young centers who show flashes of star power will get big deals

Full MLE might be needed to get him

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Jan 23, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably more.

Channing Frye got that.

Keith Smart is challenging Red Auerbach to be the greatest coach of all time.

by GovernorStephCurry on Jan 23, 2011 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh

way more than full MLE. Full MLE is nothing.

That third guitar note you played just now was perfect, dogg. Maybe play it again a little later alright.

by Reverend_Randy on Jan 24, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Whats the full MLE?

Something like 35 mil?

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Jan 24, 2011 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure he is

Especially after the acl tear.

by tafkasam on Jan 23, 2011 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure he'd want to come here, though.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on Jan 24, 2011 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

i dunno

Lacob knows him personally…

and it is about Boston’s turn to cycle down. They are ancient.

Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

by fotd on Jan 24, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Jordan is on the upswing, though.

And he has played really well this year.

That third guitar note you played just now was perfect, dogg. Maybe play it again a little later alright.

by Reverend_Randy on Jan 24, 2011 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd go after Oden.

Keith Smart is challenging Red Auerbach to be the greatest coach of all time.

by GovernorStephCurry on Jan 23, 2011 8:05 PM PST reply actions  

Top 3 nene Marc gasol nd oden maybe Jordán o

Nene nd Jordán are my picks. Elite center spots

by macdreboi on Jan 23, 2011 9:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I think I'd rather have Deandre Jordan than Marc Gasol these days

I love Gasol’s game, but Jordans athleticism and defense will be more useful to us next to DLee.

by tafkasam on Jan 23, 2011 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

+1

Oden on a 1 year deal with a team option for a 2nd for cheap

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Jan 23, 2011 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

You'd probably have to add a lot of incentives.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on Jan 24, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Depends if we trade our expirings for a guy with a long term deal

If we do we can offer the MLE to him. It’d be a bad idea to give him more than half the MLE though

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Jan 24, 2011 12:32 AM PST up reply actions  

If we keep our expirings and they make the qualifying offer he'd take up all our cap space and we couldn't get anyone else

But then again we don’t care about the luxury tax so money won’t matter to us

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Jan 24, 2011 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Here’s a list of the 2011 free agents at the 5 spot.

Nene, Denver Nuggets – $11.4 million – Early Termination Option ($11.6 million)
Marc Gasol, Memphis Grizzlies – $3.6 million – Unrestricted*
Tyson Chandler, Dallas Mavericks – $12.6 million – Unrestricted
Yao Ming, Houston Rockets – $17.7 million – Unrestricted
Kendrick Perkins, Boston Celtics – $4.9 million – Unrestricted
Joel Przybilla, Portland Trail Blazers – $7.4 million – Unrestricted
Samuel Dalembert, Sacramento Kings – $13.4 million – Unrestricted
Greg Oden, Portland Trail Blazers – $6.8 million – Restricted ($8.8 million Qualifying Offer)
Spencer Hawes, Philadelphia 76ers – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.1 million Qualifying Offer)
Nenad Krstic, Oklahoma City Thunder – $5.7 million – Unrestricted
Earl Barron, Phoenix Suns – $0.8 million – Unrestricted
Tony Battie, Philadelphia 76ers – $1.4 million – Unrestricted
Kyrylo Fesenko, Utah Jazz – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Erick Dampier, Miami HEAT – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Miami HEAT – $1.4 million – Unrestricted
Jeff Foster, Indiana Pacers – $6.7 million – Unrestricted
Nazr Mohammed, Charlotte Bobcats – $6.9 million – Unrestricted
DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
Kurt Thomas, Chicago Bulls – $1.4 million – Unrestricted
Francisco Elson, Utah Jazz – $1.1 million – Unrestricted
Hilton Armstrong, Washington Wizards – $0.9 million – Unrestricted
Aaron Gray, New Orleans Hornets – $0.9 million – Player Option ($0.9 million)
Jamaal Magloire, Miami HEAT – $1.4 million – Unrestricted
Dan Gadzuric, Golden State Warriors – $7.2 million – Unrestricted
Ryan Hollins, Cleveland Cavaliers – $2.3 million – Player Option ($2.5 million)
Kwame Brown, Charlotte Bobcats – $1.3 million – Unrestricted
Theo Ratliff, L.A. Lakers – $1.4 million – Unrestricted
Etan Thomas, Atlanta Hawks – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
Jarron Collins, L.A. Clippers – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
Jason Collins, Atlanta Hawks – $1.2 million – Unrestricted
Eddy Curry, New York Knicks – $11.3 million – Unrestricted
Hamed Haddadi, Memphis Grizzlies – $1.8 million – Unrestricted*
Alexis Ajinca, Dallas Mavericks – $1.5 million – Unrestricted

Larry Riley is gonna have to find a 5 and a 3 in order for me to consider it a successfull offseason. 1 can come from the draft.

by J-RIDAH on Jan 23, 2011 11:24 PM PST reply actions  

We likely wont have a draft pick

I expect a 3 at the deadline and a 5 in free agency, I’m still in full support of a 1 year rent a center for 10 mil then trading Beans for Jamison so we will have enough money to make an offer to Dwight or CP3

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Jan 24, 2011 12:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m still in full support of a 1 year rent a center for 10 mil

The Warriors don’t have that kind of money to throw at free agents. Even if they don’t trade the expirings.

I can’t imagine the Cavs wanting Andris. They already have Hickson and Varejao. They already don’t have any offensive weapons.

by tandy on Jan 24, 2011 12:32 AM PST up reply actions  

What does Dre do for the Cavs right now though?

It just ties up their cap. I bet if they get offered Dre or expirings for Jamison, they’d gladly go the exp route.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on Jan 24, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I bet if they get offered Dre or expirings for Jamison, they’d gladly go the exp route.

I don’t think so. Next year they have a lot of money coming off the books. They will have significant cap space for the 2012-2013 season. (they have 27 million commited to 5 players and it could be less because Gibson’s contract in not guaranteed.)

The Cavs really have no reason to dump Jamison’s salary this year, when they could get something of greater value next year.

by tandy on Jan 24, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The league is also flooded with expirings right now.

Also, I doubt they get a star with that amazing TPE they received. Or Jamison’s contract because I think they may get a solid player in return, but certainly not a star with no other assets added and the Cavs are not in a situation to be hitching any kind of picks to outgoing trades.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on Jan 24, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

That was a horribly thought out second sentence.

I don’t think with Jamison’s expiring alone nets them a star player. At best a productive player on a downward trending team. I also don’t think they’re in a position to be adding incentives to any outgoing deals. Biedrins is the type of guy they should target after getting a real deal player to surround him with talent.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on Jan 24, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think with Jamison’s expiring alone nets them a star player.

My point is they don’t need to trade to get a star player. They could just wait it out and see what happens with the enormous amount of cap space they will have in two years.

Why trade for Biedrins now before they have a chance to make other moves later? Also would Cavaliers want to tie up 17 million to Varajeo and Biedrins? I don’t think so.

by tandy on Jan 24, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I did know Jordan was going to be unrestricted

gentlemen, we have our target!

I kinda like Chandler too, but he seems a little overpaid.

but there are more options out there than I thought…

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 25, 2011 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Any chance we could go for Gortat in a trade? I think he could be a quality starting center if beans doesn’t start picking up the slack. Plus he isn’t even PHX’s starting center at the moment so he might be available.

by Curryfan on Jan 24, 2011 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

He plays a lot there though

They just got him for JRich, he’s not going anywhere

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Jan 24, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I have been keeping an eye on his minutes and they are very inconsistent, but you are probably right about him being unobtainable. I can hope lol

by Curryfan on Jan 25, 2011 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

i'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this

Assuming he is cleared to and wants to play, I would do Yao Ming for 2 yrs/6-8 million, even if its just a jeremy lin-ish publicity move.
Or Oden for 2 yrs/12 mil.
I would do long-term reasonable money deals with Jordan or Gasol. Maybe Nene too but I’m concerned about the injury history.

diehard warrior & niner fan.
possibly the only cal + SC fan in the world

by gogoldenbears on Jan 24, 2011 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

Gimmie Kendrick.

TYVM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Roye

by Elevation Sensation on Jan 24, 2011 10:48 PM PST reply actions  

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