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My Venting Session

Ok, During the Clippers and Hornets games, I turned the game off, first time I can ever remember doing that. I don't know if it's because my expectations are higher than they've been in a while or because they have such fundamental flaws that seem to get worse before they get better.

 

I'm going to list the things that are driving me crazy starting with the "most" going to the "least".

 

#1 - Biedrins - Where do I begin? I actually like the guy. I think he’s a nice kid with good tools, but he’s regressing much faster than he should be progressing. The thing that makes me yell at the TV most and explain to my fiancée why I think he might actually be mildly retarded is his defense, or lack thereof. The whole jumping with the hands up in the air while players CONTINUALLY jump into his body and draw fouls boggles my mind. What also perplexes me is why no one seems to talk about it.

If he could learn how to avoid contact and just contest shots he would be able to stay on the court and be a value to us. We’ve all seen his 20+ rebound games, it’s great. He’s active, he’s confident, he’s valuable. Right now, I could argue that the team plays better with Gadzuric or Udoh on the court.

For someone who’s been in the league, what 7 years? He should understand that this league has turned into an actor’s league. Paul Pierce, Dwayne Wade, C. Paul. MANU GINOBILI, Corey Maggette. These are all players that “act” their way to the line and the must lick their chops when they see Biedrins standing there with his hands up in the air. Please change this Biedrins.

And what’s up with his new, facing the player on a box out and wrapping them up, thus disabling your ability to grab a rebound. Has anyone else noticed this? Where in the world did you learn that Andris? Stick to throwing your butt into someone with your hands extended, preventing them from getting around you.

 

#2 - On The Ball Defense – Monta and Steph….ay ay ay. You two are amazing on offense, but holy swiss cheese, you guys seem indifferent when guarding the opposition. You cannot allow players to get around you as easily as they do. This is the root to our defensive woes. When players get around you at will, you’re basically relying on Lee and Biedrins to help out. Not necessarily intimidating defenders. Lee, opponents know you can get your shot off against him, and Biedrins, they know they can draw a foul.

In my opinion, it’s a switch you can flip on and off, and they just don’t seem to want to switch it on. Example: you see players like D. Wright, Artest, C. Paul get feisty, get low to the ground and you can tell all they want to do is stop their opponent. You actually saw it in Monta when he and Kobe were going at it in the 4th quarter the other week. It needs to be like that all the time.

 

#3 - Smart’s Rotations – What is the most glaring hole with this team? I would argue low post offense and overall defense. What players on this team give you the best shot at filling those voids? I would say Udoh and B. Wright. Don’t get me wrong, I understand B. Wright isn’t a great on the ball defender, but he’s a great weak side helper. So my question is….why do they sit? And not only sit, but sit the entire game? Game after game after game? It sure would make sense to me to play both of them 5-10 minutes per night. Enough said.

 

#4 - Curry’s tendencies – Please tell me I’m not the only one who notices these two things and whom it bugs. Offense – Have you noticed how Curry nonchalantly dribbles the ball up the court. Kind of half assed, kind of swaggery, kind of sloppily? He kind of slaps the ball, takes a few steps before dribbling. Every time I see it I think the ref is gonna blow the whistle on him, but it’s the NBA. He’s so fundamentally sound, but it’s like he forces himself to take every inch of sloppiness the NBA will allow him to take. I don’t know if it’s a mixture of wanting to look cool or what. You NEVER see the player whom I think he has the potential to be a lot alike, Steve Nash do this. You NEVER see Chris Paul do this. You never saw John Stockton do it. I think it carries even further when you see his one handed passes or behind the back out of bounds. Please, take every possession very seriously and stick to the fundamentals.

Defense – I remember this summer when he was on Team USA and I saw an interview where he stated he wanted to take pride in his defense, that that was the thing he was working on the most. I do think he tries to take pride in his defense, but that’s the problem sometimes. I think he gets so set in stopping someone, that he forgets about situations. Like letting Collinson beat him, and then foul him with 4 seconds to go, putting him on the line and tying the game. He gets so set on stopping someone, that even when he’s beat, he still tries to reach or block the shot, when he needs to just let it go and focus on staying in front of his man. I guess he’ll learn with time (unlike Biedrins).

 

Well I guess that’s it. Other than that I hope they completely shake things up. I like where our cap is this summer. I like all the money coming off the books, but I think we need to go in a defensive direction. I know how much people in the Bay Area enjoy basketball, especially when it’s played the right way. This is what I want to see more than anything. Warriors I love you, but I had to let loose here.




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Lots of good points - Warriors not playing as well

Most of the above I kinda expected though – to me the biggest frustration is Beidrins. The guy is just not getting it done. Its odd, because he seems to be playing hard at times, but just not very effectively.
Another venting point for me is David Lee’s defense – just horrible. Its great if he can get 18 and 10 a game, but not if the opposing PF gets 25 and 12! Kinda wishing we still had Turiaf these days given our post defense all around.
On the plus side, Dorrel Wright playing better than I expected and Monta is having his best season.

by tjmax on Jan 27, 2011 10:01 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed....

D. Wright is a keeper. We got him at a great price.
One thing I’ve noticed about him too is that on his J, if he’s leaning left or right, he misses the shot. He usually needs to be set or leaning forward to make the shot. I remember the same thing about Mike Dunleavy.

I agree. I miss Turiaf. He’s the only one I didn’t want to see go this summer.

by sauceycor on Jan 27, 2011 10:07 PM PST reply actions  

dunleavy-free zone

please do not mention dorell and dunleavy in the same sentence, or paragraph, or book, or lifetime. unless you are discussing human being beings over 6’7"….maybe not then either.

by felix botticelli on Jan 28, 2011 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

#4

yea currys body language doesnt look right when he does that . . . makes him look not engaged. i think smart needs to let him be a little more free on the court though. i feel like steph likes to wheel and deal run and gun a little but he knows he has to run one of keith smarts plays that dont work. he’ll figure it out though. i forget sometimes that this is only his 2nd season

by No Dice Jim Rice on Jan 27, 2011 11:14 PM PST reply actions  

#4

I definitely agree, but I think it’s a result of Keith Smart trying to play a slower, more methodically paced game. It seems he urges Stephen to take his time, but Curry is a restless man. He’s always fidgeting and moving and it seems can’t keep still, so for him to “run” a slow offense where he must walk the ball down the court will look awful and unnatural in the eyes of the viewers. He’s taking Curry out of his comfort zone, and Stephen is trying (albeit not really succeeding) in fulfilling the role Keith so absentmindedly gave him, resulting in him looking like he’s going through the motions as if it’s in a practice situation.

It’s definitely a problem that needs to be addressed, though, and I believe all the problems we have start and end with Keith Smart. Our actual roster unfortunately will not change overnight into a championship-caliber team, but we need to start with the X’s and O’s and find ourselves a new coach.

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by steffun4tw on Jan 27, 2011 11:45 PM PST reply actions  

d-league coach in the nba does not work

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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 28, 2011 1:18 AM PST reply actions  

that would be Musselman

who’s coaching the d-league team, and arguably better qualified than Smart.

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by the.monk on Jan 28, 2011 2:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Both Jerry Sloan and Phil Jackson had coaching stints in the CBA. Seems to me that’s probably the most comparable thing to the D-League back then….

by Missing Barry on Jan 28, 2011 7:31 AM PST up reply actions  

#2 should be #1

Defense starts at the POINT of attack. You’ve already said it but I’ll say it again: if Monta/Steph get beat, which they do too often because their trying to play D w/ their hands on not their feet, the entire defensive set is broken. guys have to help leaving their man open. rotations are slow and after some film sessions by the oppenent, they know where the open spot on the floor is for an uncontested 3. remember in the beginning when the lost something like 12 of 14 or 14 of 16. teams that were shooting 30% on 3s shot 50% against the warriors.

it’s so fustrating to watch Steph’s defense. it might as well be 5 on 4 when Steph’s in the game playing D.

by diggitydawg510 on Jan 28, 2011 7:51 AM PST reply actions  

no udoh or brandan?

why not these guys indeed? they cant possible do worse than 2 points and 4 rebounds in 25 minutes. biedrins may get depressed if he doesn’t start, but guess what? he is no longer a starter, even if he does start.

what worries me more than anything is that we may have idiots in the owner’s box again, clamoring for ridiculous, unattainable goals given the personnel, thus leading smart to try and “win now”, which is where we have been for the last fifteen years.

this is not a playoff team, i thought it a 32-34 win team at the beginning of the year and i think im in the right ballpark. so, play the younguns and see whatcha got. move forward, slowly from there. no dumb trades just to prove “its my team”. we shall see.

by felix botticelli on Jan 28, 2011 9:04 AM PST reply actions  

I have to disagree

I think Lacob HAS to say the things he’s been saying. Maybe not as candidly as he has, but when he’s addressing being one of the top teams in the league, I don’t see anything wrong with that.

Look at the Celtics, they were TERRIBLE before they made 2 huge moves in one summer. Bringing in Kevin Garnett and signing Ray Allen.

The Cavs were a perennial playoff team with Lebron. Now they’re the worst team in the league after losing 1 player.

I could go on and on. Point is….if you make a few, key transactions, you can completely turn your team around.

The only difference is, Lacob is willing to pay a little extra to get those deals done. Cohan, very clearly, was not.

This is why I’m very excited to see what happens either right before the trade deadline or this summer. Lacob stated very clearly he wants to put his mark on this team with a big transaction.

So far, I have zero complaints about our new owner.

They already fired Abdenour. Seems like a good decision seeing as how we have led the league in games due to injury for the past few years.

Everyone calls me crazy for this….but I still want to see Monta for Iguodala. Probably would take a 3 team trade, but I think overall, it would make our team a lot better. All of a sudden we’d be more defensively minded and considered a Larger team, not a small team.

Our offense would have to be a lot more like the Spurs. We’d have to run plays, set screens, be a lot more systematic. Instead of giving the ball to Monta and having him drive the lane or pull up, one on one.

by sauceycor on Jan 28, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I still want to see Monta for Iguodala. Probably would take a 3 team trade, but I think overall, it would make our team a lot better. All of a sudden we’d be more defensively minded and considered a Larger team, not a small team.

Our offense would have to be a lot more like the Spurs. We’d have to run plays, set screens, be a lot more systematic. Instead of giving the ball to Monta and having him drive the lane or pull up, one on one.

Totally agreed. Monta’s great play this year would make it painful, but it also makes it somewhat more imaginable. We’d still have the big issue — starting C — to address, but we’d be rock solid from 1-4. And if somehow we could leverage Lacob’s Boston connections (and what little cap space we have) into Kendrick Perkins next summer…

Curry / Delonte West (?)
Iguodala / Reggie or perhaps Kelenna (?)
Dorell
Lee / Udoh
Perkins / Biedrins

A normal-sized team that doesn’t suck on defense? Yes please.

/end this week’s rosterbation/

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by Sleepy Freud on Jan 28, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

here, here

beans and curry have regressed….wtf and why? both could be so good, curry could be great, both play like they don’t care

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by Regulus on Jan 28, 2011 9:55 AM PST reply actions  

By all objective measures....

Curry has not regressed. Last I looked, all his stats have improved from last season….. unless you only look at the last month of last season and expect him to do that consistently (we all hoped, but no dice so far). He has only regressed in relation to expectations, and has already moved past his sophomore counterparts Evans and Jennings.

by warriorsablaze on Jan 28, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Definitely agree with #4

Curry’s body language has been bothering me all season. I know his game is smooth, but it’s lacking an edge this season. He’s still producing, which makes you wonder how good he could be with more fire.

by warriorsablaze on Jan 28, 2011 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

nice post

I enjoyed reading this more than I thought I would based on the title

..more of a well-thought crtique than a “rant”

  1. - Almost comical at this point, but I totally agree…the jump up with my hands in the air D is just worthless. Beans was my favorite Warrior, now…biggest disappointment this year. I was really hoping that he would shine once Nellie left
  1. - Watching the Celtics last night, I had a similar thought. Our guys just do not play D with any sense of urgency. This to me, is all about effort and determination. Also, Steph and Monta both are waaaaaaaaaaay too easy to bump off by running them into screens
  1. - the only explanation I can come up with here is that Smart has some sort of plan for developing Udoh and BWright that involves
  1. - Steph, I hate to say, but he looks like he is lacking “fire” or something. I know he has a good work ethic, but his focus seems pretty weak

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 28, 2011 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

arg

numbers FAIL
…these are all sequential (numbers 1-4)
missed it in my preview

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 28, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

A point worth noting – jumping straight up with your arms straight up, technically, is a good play. The defender has the right to that position and if there’s contact, it’s not a defensive foul. That said, the rules are what the ref says they are. If refs are calling it, and it’s not an effective strategy, it’s time to change strategy.

by Missing Barry on Jan 28, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

“technically” you’re right. But when was the last time you saw a ref call an offensive foul on someone throwing their body into Biedrins? That’s my point…if he can’t learn that this strategy isn’t working, no matter how fair or unfair it is, then he’s gonna be completely out of the rotation soon. In my opinion, that’s coaching more than anything. Who is coaching the bigs in Golden State? Lacob, please fire him. Send him to SDSU with Abdenour.

by sauceycor on Jan 28, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

technically" you’re right. But when was the last time you saw a ref call an offensive foul on someone throwing their body into Biedrins?

the problem is not that Dre don’t get fouls, the problem is too many defensive fouls are called in the game. The league has made it too easy to score and too hard to defend.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 28, 2011 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed again...

Not disagreeing with you. But what are you going to do? Complain about it and keep letting it happen or change the way you play?

Nothing irritates me more than seeing Corey Maggette, Manu Ginobilli, Paul Pierce and Kobe Bryant drive the lane, act like they’re getting murdered, and get to the line.

Problem is….it works. Biedrins needs to learn how to adjust. And for some reason, I feel that he is actually incapable of doing so. Why? I don’t know.

by sauceycor on Jan 28, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

All too TRUE

Biedrins has been horrible. And many say he is good on D and is an outstanding rebounder.

I know exactly what your talking about; not boxing out and facing his man up. He did this during the end of the clippers game on B. Griffin. The irony is they brought him into rebound; we didn’t get that board.

Curry does play with a lot of confidence and swagger, which is good, but his turnovers and silly fouls are win-killers. Today against Charlotte he had 3 turnovers in overtime. Hopefully he can grow out of this.

by macalino on Jan 28, 2011 11:40 PM PST reply actions  

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