Recap #46: Charlotte Bobcats 121, Golden State Warriors 113 - Painful.
Just painful.
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I'm sorry, but this outing by the Warriors was absolutely painful to watch. As much as Stephen Jackson was clutch (more on our old friend- old, meaning not our friend anymore- later), the Warriors lost this one on their own because of sloppiness and stupidity. Again, I'm sorry. There's no other way to put it. There are ZERO positives to take from this game. To focus on the positives after a game like that would be a disservice and borderline propaganda. I believe in moral vicitories, but that's not what happened here. So onwards with the negatives and we'll spread the responsibility for this disaster to everyone involved:
- The Warriors were up by 16 late in the 3rd quarter, but lost by 8 at the final buzzer in OT. Doing the math, that means the Bobcats caused a 24 point turnaround in the span of about 20 minutes on the road in a fairly hostile environment. That's terrible. This Warriors team is NOT going to the playoffs.
- There was so much not to like about Monta Ellis tonight. You could make a good argument that he shot the Warriors out of the game by going 6 for 24 and not letting Stephen Curry do his thing scoring-wise. There is something really wrong with Ellis, Coach Keith Smart, and Curry for Monta to get 21 points on 24 shots and Curry to get 27 on 12 shots. It's called in-game adjustments and the Warriors didn't make any. Ellis' 5 turnovers were silly, but even sillier was his 3 point foul on Stephen Jackson in the closing minute of the 4th quarter. Just dumb.
- Stephen Curry shot the ball extremely well and looked aggressive on offense (well, as much as he could with Ellis and Smart holding him back), but his turnovers are what I'll take away from this game. His 2 turnovers in OT (one getting trapped in the left sideline and another a lazy interior pass to David Lee) really cost the Warriors any chance of coming through in the extended period. His turnovers need to go down if he's going to be a full time point guard in this league. If not he's just a combo guard that fouls and turns the ball over way too much.
- Another piece of the puzzle that was missing was David Lee. When he walks away 6 for 8 and Monta walks away 6 for 24 there's a problem. Get this man the rock so he can score. Defensively I have no idea what Lee was doing out there especially in the latter part of the game. He was picking up Biedrins-like fouls and playing Biedrins-like soft D.
- Andris Biedrins was finally aggressive attacking the rim. I saw some spin moves that I never even knew he had near the rim. It was Ike Diogu-esque if you will. It was the 46th game of the season and Biedrins' second double-double of the season. His 5 fouls and zero trips to the free throw line (yes, it is a good idea to get opposing players especially bigs in free throw trouble- which he simply doesn't) have become too commonplace.
- Kwame Brown averages 7.2 ppg, but of course he gets a highly efficient 12 points against Biedrins and the Warriors.
- Ekpe Udoh continues to scare me with his depressing rebounding rate. If that's Coach Smart's reason for not giving him more playing time I can somewhat sympathize.
- It's been two nights later, but I still have nightmares of Vladimir Radmanovic's absolutely idiotic unforced turnover in the closing minute of the game in the Warriors back court. There's a reason Nellie never gave him any playing time.
- D.J. Augustin is simply not 27 points, 12 assists, and 4 steals good. Ellis, Curry, Reggie Williams, and Acie Law really screwed up there.
- If you had to convince me to be positive about this game, Dorell Wright's outing is the only thing I'd like to remember. He had a very balanced 21-6-6 game.

I'll readily admit I was booing our old Captain tonight. Hey, he deserved it. Post- Malice at the Palace NO ONE wanted anything to do with Stephen Jackson. NO ONE. But Chris Mullin, Don Nelson, Robert Rowell, Chris Cohan, the Warriors organization, and Warriors fans gave this guy a second chance. Stephen Jackson wasn't perfect, but initially he responded with a mostly appreciative effort. Jack was a good man in the community and on the court thanks to Nellie he took his game to career highs. WE BELIEVE never happens without Captain Jack.
But then Captain Jack turned into Captain Jack--- (it's a family show, so we'll leave it at that). After providing his John Hancock on a contract (and a very silly one) from Rowell, his ego and sense of entitlement grew out of proportion. Jack was NOT a leader or mentor and essentially whined his way out of here claiming that he was a "winner" (more like "whiner") despite foregoing the option for free agency and signing up to play for a known loser just for some cold hard cash. Now there's nothing wrong with being all about the Benjamins, but there is in going after the dollars and then disrespecting the people who showed you love. I'm simplifying things here and glossing over some key details in interests of brevity, but let's just say Warrior fans had every reason to boo him loudly Friday night. He dissed us.
On Friday night Stephen Jackson did to us what he used to do for us. There was the whining. There was the immaturity. There was the sloppy play. There was the poor shooting.
But there was also the fire. And of course the clutchness. Stephen Jackson is this game's Warrior Wonder.
31 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals, 1 bank shot 3 pointer to send the game into overtime, and more hot shooting in OT.
It's really too bad Captain Jack--- pulled a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
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Bay Area Owners are ridiculous
The 2 teams that can do something in the Bay are the Giants and the A’s cos their owners stay out of the media. What was with that Lacob interview for. 0-4 after that interview. Monta seems lost more than tired. How to lose a team in no time, Thats what I want to hear as a player. David Lee and all call for being a strong team only for the owner to stay Ill trade anyone in this roster. WTF moment right there. Damn nothing short of an apology to the entire team should be in order. And Guber and Lacob stay out of the media, let the players and the coach be in the spotlight.
The 2 teams that can do something in the Bay are the Giants and the A’s cos their owners stay out of the media.
Does not compete. If anything, Cohan epitomized ownership that stayed out of the media.
The Golden State Warriors, we make Free Throws look difficult!
Al Davis is a recluse
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
Still not at the level Cohan was.
The Golden State Warriors, we make Free Throws look difficult!
by Badly Browned on Jan 30, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Don't even compare Davis to Cohan.
At least Uncle Al has 3 titles and an impressive resume from the past.
Cohan has jack crap.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
Aha, I love Al.
Cohan was useless, I agree.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
I voted Yes cuz of DW
He is this seasons Team All-STAR, not Monta “cry baby about not being an ALL -Star” Ellis…….
I have said it time and time again – he is a scorer that does not drive to the hoop nearly enough, but rather attempt more missed outside shots…..play poor defense, less a steal or two, and show facial expressions of depression and whining.
NOT GOOD for any team, even for a 6 year old league.
Hahaha
This game did a great job of exposing people.
"Thank goodness for Stephen Curry, Ekpe Udoh, David Lee and Dorell Wright, because they’re the only positives we’ve got going forward."- Warriors "fan"
by HerFavColor on Jan 30, 2011 11:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
AB had a dub-dub.
Hooah! Time to trade him.
That said, I feel your pain. It’s really frustrating when… about a week ago, the Warriors were four games down in the loss column to becoming a .500 team. In addition, they had won four-in-a-row. Suddenly they’ve lost four-in-a-row and the loss to the Bobcats was freakin ugly. Today, the Warriors are 19 – 27 and EIGHT games out of .500. It looks insurmountable when you play like the way the Warriors did against the Bobs. Against the Bobcats, the Warriors won in almost every offensive category except for the final score.
Now the Warriors could go into a tailspin and we will be discussing the lottery again, but I’m not ready to throw in the towel yet. I don’t think one takes any positives from a game like that. Instead, we should start thinking about what to do about it. Larry Riley should be looking to make a trade. It may not be the difference maker to get the Warriors to the playoffs, but it could set us up for the future. Regardless, the pressure is on Keith Smart to right this ship again. His job hangs by a thread. If the Warriors go into a tailspin, he could be out immediately instead of the end of the season. Things could get that ugly.
"Go ahead. Make my day."
Great wrap up Atma. You captured the whole "Kabootle" there.
Only thing that I might disagree with is the Vlad comment. As much as I had groaned every time he received minutes in the first third of the season I have to admit that he has earned his minutes since.
Man, does Udoh have bad hands or what? He has just got to get a nose for the ball when it comes to rebounds or he will be not ever be more than a 3rd option in his career!
by Only In Fairfax on Jan 30, 2011 11:56 AM PST reply actions
WALK THE PLANK MATEY!
if you give udoh the same chance that radvladimpaler has had then you see major growth in udoh.. major growth in udoh makes everyone much more happy..
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jan 30, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
Jackson was smart.
Call it what you want, but the dude is no dummy. Schooled in the game. He played Rowell and the Dubz for a fool. I still like Jack, but I think I like him more because he isn’t on our team anymore. Too much about him with all the antics, but I can’t hate him for getting paid. And I don’t even really blame him for wanting out of this franchise.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
This.
Completely agree. People hated him for wanting to move, but when it came down to it:
HE WANTED TO WIN
Don’t we, as fans, want to win as well? Hell yeah. The ‘Cats ain’t got a good record, but they certainly can vie for that last East playoff spot. Us?
PLAYOFFS YOU TALKIN BOUT PLAYOFFS?!
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
Yep, breaking up We Believe was something I bet they didn't think would happen.
Or at least that quickly. Once Baron left, I thought we were screwed cause that meant Jack = The Man.
Although he did make vengeful love to pressure on Friday that left Oracle with a sore…well ego.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
The Baron departure pissed me off
Because he gave us no prior warning, only decided to leave just minutes before the Free Agent declaration deadline. The least he could’ve done, even for the fans, was to tell us at least in advance, preferably before the draft so we could’ve planned accordingly. Our FO correctly saw that contract demands were off the charts, but their incompetence didn’t allow them to salvage the situation. The J-Rich trade was the beginning of the end for We Believe.
Now, we’re in a pretty bad predicament again.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
The Baron departure was 100% Rowell
Baron said he’d have stayed if Warriors matched Clippers offer
100% Rowell
Mostly right, 5 Years/65 Mil is not worth it. He was 29 when he left and was injury prone, he got a great deal using those circumstances.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
It's questionable
A motivated Baron is worth it. His departure basically took Warriors from 48 wins to 24. It would have been interesting what would have happened if Baron stayed. I bet Randolph or Wright would have been traded with someone to acquire a PF for Nellie.
It’s also unclear, as Baron said he was willing to take a year less to stay with Warriors. I can’t remember specific numbers but whatever Mullin had in place, Rowell pulled it back. Thanx Robert.
Ahh yes
It is questionable, however, would he have been motivated to share the rock with Monta? Captain Jack would’ve wanted a share of the ball too. Remember we had to extend both Monta and Beans, Jack was waiting in the back, we also had ’Buike and several other minor contracts which may have been extended as well.
He ended up having a terrible season with the Clips. So I do firmly believe that Rowell was right with not extending him. From my understanding Rowell claimed (Don’t remember exactly) that Baron never discussed voiding the contract or wanted to enter talks for an extension.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
So I do firmly believe that Rowell was right with not extending him. From my understanding Rowell claimed (Don’t remember exactly) that Baron never discussed voiding the contract or wanted to enter talks for an extension.
Which is what bugs me the most. It was totally EGO. Who the F is rowell to do that to Warrior fans? Like his personal feelings on not being told about Baron’s plans to opt out matter. Baron did what any player would do. I don’t blame him. If Warriors offered him same as clippers and he left, then I’d be done with him. But, in my opinion, the whole way it went down, reflects the complete incompetence of the Cohan era
Baron has a part in his departure just as any other player or Rowell would. Fact of the matter when it comes to finances Baron was not worth that deal, it’s not a personal thing between Baron and Rowell. There should be some kind of communication between FO, players, and coaches. An example of these financial standoffs is that of the Giants and the Dodgers; Schmidt, Kent, and Uribe left the Bay to go LA, where they got betters deals, with a minor exception in Kent’s case.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
<ble, however, would he have been motivated to share the rock with Monta?/blockquote>
Was it a problem in 07-08? Monta had his best year efficiency wise. Baron plays well with Eric Gordon too….
More and more, I think it’s more on the coaching that makes Monta look like he wants to be Kobe Bryant
No it wasn't a problem in 07-08
But as it stands the Monta, Curry tandem still has its problems, things change, that’s just the way it is.
(Sorry had to drop the Tupac lyric in LOL)
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
I increasingly blame Smart over Monta or Curry
Neither are selfish players.
things change, that’s just the way it is.
yeah, “we gotta make some changes”.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 30, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
By the way
Since Baron came back in January- 15.5 ppg, 7.0 apg, 2.6 tos, 44.1fg%, 36.4 3pt%
When he’s motivated (BGriff will do that for a PG) he can still play
That's what he said.
Now, what do you think the odds are that he meant it?
Let’s see – he was visibly clashign with the coach by the end of the season. He had always spoken about wanting to play in L.A. He and Brand were supposedly talking about playing together.
I mean, I just don’t think he’s speaking entirely credibly here.
It's hard to say I guess
And hindsight is 20/20. I still believe he would have if Warriors offered him the same deal. Whether we should have is a different issue. I still think, yes.
To my mind, not offering him the deal was the right move.
Yes, he’s playing well, now. But how long is that going to last? His motivation – particularly defensively – was pretty suspect by the end of his last season here and if he wasn’t motivated by a new contract playing in his hometown, I’m not sure he would have been motivated here.
I wouldn’t want him right now, in a void, on that contract.
I'd want him right now
If Clippers threw in BGriff ;)
I remember bringing that up last year. BGriff + Baron for 1st pick + Maggette (at the time Clippers were willing to trade Baron for Maggette). Of course no one agreed with me, and rightfully so, Griffin injured, no clue what he’d become. Baron looked cancerous. Even in my wildest dreams, couldn’t imagine how good Griffin turned out this year.
It was arguably the right move.
But any hopes of playoffs went out the door when BD left. At least it felt that way at the time.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
Ugh @ this team
David Lee = Top 3 worst defensive bigs. Ain’t rebounding up to expectations. Backloaded contract.
Monta Ellis = Top 5 worst defensive 2’s. Still a questionable decision maker.
Stephen Curry = Top 10 worst defensive 1’s. Can’t seem to play well with Ellis still.
Reggie Williams = One of the worst defensive backup guards in the league.
Andris Biedrins = Top 5 worst defensive starting Centers. Can’t shoot a damn FT. Injuries.
Gadz = Overused
Vlad = 3.1 RPG, Overused
Law = Terrible Defender
Lou = Injured, Underused
Udoh = Rookie, Underused
Wright = Injuries, Doghouse, Underused
We’re tied for 2nd in Points allowed. We give up the most Offensive boards and give up the 2nd most total rebounds. We’re top 3 in personal fouls and top 5 in turnovers.
Might I add that 3 of players count for just under half of our total team salary?
This team can’t rebound. We traded for Lee for his rebounds and offensive capabilities (Pick and Roll, Midrange Jumpshot) but he has been a bust so far. We can’t defend anybody.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
I think saying that Biedrins is a bottom 5 defensive starting center
isn’t really fair. He’s still way better defensively than Bargnani or Hawes.
That third guitar note you played just now was perfect, dogg. Maybe play it again a little later alright.
by Reverend_Randy on Jan 30, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Can someone explain to me how the hell banking in a 3-pointer can in any any way shape or form be described as “clutch”!?!?!? Over shooting by a foot is not clutch. It is a horribly bad shot. a clutch shot would have been Jack tuning out the hostile crowd, zeroing in on his target, and rainbowing one in. It is not getting frazzled and chucking one off the backboard like an elementary school recess game.
Furthermore, his celebration after the shot should have been something akin to Jordan putting his hands up quizzically and smirking at Spike, not screaming like a pro wrestler and making various gang-esque hand signals.
As far as the rest of his performance, let’s remember what team defense he was dealing with…
Amnesty for all immigrants! Boycott Arizona! RIP GURU
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Jan 30, 2011 2:33 PM PST reply actions
so Kobe's 3 over Wade isn't clutch?
not sure if cereal
"Thank goodness for Stephen Curry, Ekpe Udoh, David Lee and Dorell Wright, because they’re the only positives we’ve got going forward."- Warriors "fan"
We are addicted to this drug "Monta Ellis"
I have nothing against Monta Ellis. He is an exceptional player. He is doing a lot for the team. My problem is with coaching and other players. Instead of just giving him the ball and letting him “create”, why wouldn’t we run 2-3 picks to get him open? if 3 picks are not enough – lets run 4 picks to give him a better shot. Why is he encouraged to take improbable shots? Why are we not patient enough to deliver the ball to our bigs? Why so often DWright is playing third guard being so far from the hoop? We have this luxury of two very good shooters in ME and SC. Why would not we switch responsibilities when one of them has the bad game?
For me the worst in this game were inability on luck of willingness to play defense by DLee and disappearance of Steph in third quarter. Yes, he played great in fourth. How about third? what kind of leadership is that? I hope that Coach will help him to develop these leadership skills.
I think this loss does a lot of good things for us forcing us to think more
because we have no offensive schemes
we try to run a flex offense, when we don’t have any post players (except for BW, but we know where that one goes)
"Thank goodness for Stephen Curry, Ekpe Udoh, David Lee and Dorell Wright, because they’re the only positives we’ve got going forward."- Warriors "fan"
I'd honestly consider trading all 4 of our other starters for 4 Dorell Wright clones
Only guy who plays with consistent fire and exemplifies beng a ‘warrior’. Obviously, I’m being facetious but point stands. It’s not surprising our only player who has any toughness, grit, consistent intensity, and seems to hate losing. I love his yelling and emotion. Everyone else is too much a Cohan Warrior. Too used to it. It’s not surprising he came from somewhere like Miami
Great Write Up Atma
Wish I could have said it under more positive circumstances but the point still stands.
It’s called in-game adjustments and the Warriors didn’t make any.
Sums up all the problems in one simple sentence. This is the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. I’ve tried to be patient and defend Smart, more than most. I like him on a personal level, I like what he’s ‘trying’ to do (instil defense). But last night, I don’t think any NBA coach blows it that poorly.
Monta had a terrible night. From the beginning it was evident his shot was off. That’s ok… IT HAPPENS. But it seemed smart’s counter to this was shoot your way out of it, instead of adjusting the offense. Why? Why? I’m not upset with Monta, atleast not his offense. As much as it sucked it seemed like he was doing what he was told. The defense, another issue..
After Monta’s 4 TO’s in like 30 sec.‘s, I would have pulled him out right there. He’d be back in, but if he didn’t produce, he’d be on the bench again. Instead, he played 48 minutes.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is Monta Ellis when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
I suspect the thought went through Smart’s head, but perhaps he wanted to give Monta the benefit of the doubt and let him try to work out his game and bounce back. If Monta starts out poorly with his head in the clouds again, then I expect Smart to bench him.
by IQofaWarrior on Jan 30, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
I don't mind Smart not pulling him
But not changing offense was a criminal offense. Or if he did and Monta didn’t listen (which I find less likely) than not pulling him is terrible. Eitherway, I think it has to fall on coach who has no grasp of what’s going on.
Maybe you’re right. I’ll give Smart more time to make amends for that loss. No one is perfect. I REALLY hope he learns to bench Monta more and bring in B.Wright for rebounding more (sad, when you have to count on B.Wright to get you rebounds, but that’s what you have when Vlad plays PF).
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is Monta Ellis when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
It seems like GSoM has gave up on Warriors too
No game post for tonight’s game
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Jan 30, 2011 4:57 PM PST reply actions
Or people have lives and are busy
If none is available, I’ll whip up a quick one.
by IQofaWarrior on Jan 30, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
normally there is a thread sooner than this.. guess im just spoiled..
i would hope we all got lives outside of the warriors.. that would be sad if not
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jan 30, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
I took a few positives out of that game. For one, we got a dose of reality that Smart is not the coach we want in the long run. He does some good things, and he’s a good guy but unless I see a huge change in the way he handles games, I suspect he’s going to go soon.
Other positives were DW, AB but also Steph’s and DLee’s offense. The first half was awesome, except for Monta’s worst playing I’ve seen since last year. But we were still winning. We could have won that game easily, if Monta didn’t screw it up. That’s pretty positive.
Make a big trade, get a new coach (maybe next year), get a decent draft pick, and we’re really a play-off team. We’ve got good players in D.Wright, Steph Curry and a pretty good player in Monta, although we’re better off with a 2 than can play defense. D.Lee ain’t too shabby either and if AB can get it together, I’ll be very, very pleased.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is Monta Ellis when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

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