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Analysis of Interior Defense using PSAMD

Now that I've written a series of posts introducing and applying my new offensive scoring metric Position- and Shot-Adjusted Marginal Scoring (PSAMS), I'm going to turn my attention to the defensive side of the ball. It turns out that with a little modification PSAMS can be turned into PSAMD (where the "D" is for defense). Here, I'll give some explanation of the defensive version of this metric, and apply it to the center position.

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In general, we should be quite a bit more skeptical of defensive statistics that utilize box score or play-by-play (PBP) data. That certainly applies here. In a nutshell, the main issue is that when a basket is scored, we definitely know who scored. Unfortunately, we don't know for sure by looking at the box score or PBP who was responsible for defending the play (i.e. who got scored on). Moreover, the entire team bears some responsibility for defense, not just one defender. (Of course, it should be obvious that the latter point is also true for offense to some extent.)

 

At any rate, we can make some simple assumptions and check whether the model makes some sense. Before getting into the model, itself, let me explain how I gathered the data. I use a programming language (Ruby) to parse and collect data from PBP files made available by Aaron Barzalai who runs the website BasketballValue.com. In addition to providing the PBP data, Aaron also provides "matchup" files, which enables one to determine for every single play who was on the court for both teams. Although the matchup data doesn't tell us who actually defended each play, it does allow us to determine who was the position-counterpart. When a player scores, we can assign "fault" to the position-counterpart, with the underlying assumption being that over the long run, the assignment of blame to the position-counterpart will capture the bulk of the individual defensive responsibility for that player. TO BE CLEAR, IT'S NOT A PERFECT MEASUREMENT. Just wanted to make sure everyone gets the disclaimer.

Just like in the PSAMS metric, I go through the PBP data programmatically looking for made and missed baskets. In addition, each shot is placed into one of the following categories: DUNK, LAYUP, TIP, HOOK, MID-RANGE, 3PT, FT. For this post, we are going to look at inside shots, which include the first four categories. 

Here's how the calculation works using Dwight Howard as an example:

PSAMD = 2*[8.1*(0.621-0.584)+(9.77-8.1)*(0.621-0.500)]=1.01

The first term represents the marginal value that Howard's defense creates against his counterpart. The opposing centers averaged 8.1 shots (per 100 non-turnover possessions) against Howard. On those shots, they averaged 58.4% compared to the league average for centers of 62.1%. Therefore, this term is positive, because Howard kept opposing centers below the average efficiency on those shots. The second term in the formula represents the marginal value of the shots that weren't taken against Howard, and instead, became mid-range or 3-pt shots. Recall that on the offensive side, players were penalized for "undershooting". On the defensive side, we reverse things. Howard is actually credited for not allowing opposing centers to take those efficient inside shots. The difference in efficiency (62.1%-50%) is quite large. If a player allows more shots by his counterpart than the average, we penalize the player for the difference between his allowed efficiency and the 50% league average. 

In addition to compiling the counterpart data, I also keep track of all the shots by the non-counterpart opponents. In the following table, I rank centers by PSAMD calculated on the counterpart data, but I also list the PSAMD calculated on the non-counterparts. The idea is that a good center not only has an effect on his counterpart but on the rest of defense as well. I'll show how we can use this metric to test that assumption.

PSAMD Ratings for Centers

Here, PSAMD_5 is the counterpart rating. PSAMD_1_4 is the rating calculated on the other four positions. RATE_5 is the number of shots (per 100 non-turnover possessions) by the counterpart. RATE_1_4 is the rate for the other four non-counterpart positions. EFF_5 is the FG% for the counterpart, and EFF_1_4 is the FG% for the other four positions. Remember these are all calculated for inside shots only (dunks, layups, tips, and hooks).

RANK

NAME

TEAM

GS

PSAMD_5

RATE_5

EFF_5

PSAMD_1_4

RATE_1_4

EFF_1_4

1

Andrew Bynum

LAL

47

2.28

8.5

50.5%

0.87

24.2

60.7%

2

Joel Anthony

MIA

11

1.45

8.8

55.2%

4.18

25.7

53.7%

3

Andrew Bogut

MIL

65

1.30

8.5

56.3%

2.59

26.1

56.6%

4

Tim Duncan

SAS

76

1.14

9.7

56.3%

2.35

21.8

58.5%

5

Dwight Howard

ORL

78

1.01

8.1

58.4%

2.37

18.7

59.8%

6

Marc Gasol

MEM

81

0.99

9.6

57.1%

-2.06

24.1

66.8%

7

Zydrunas Ilgauskas

MIA

51

0.97

10.7

56.5%

0.63

24.1

61.2%

8

Marcus Camby

POR

51

0.68

8.9

59.5%

0.37

26.5

60.7%

9

Al Jefferson

UTA

82

0.58

11.0

58.1%

-0.96

23.6

64.9%

10

Samuel Dalembert

SAC

46

0.49

8.4

61.2%

-3.64

25.3

69.2%

11

Nene Hilario

DEN

75

0.41

8.8

61.2%

0.41

23.2

62.2%

12

Ronny Turiaf

NYK

21

0.39

8.5

61.6%

1.88

24.9

58.4%

13

Roy Hibbert

IND

80

0.32

10.7

59.5%

1.37

23.7

59.9%

14

Spencer Hawes

PHI

81

0.09

11.3

60.1%

1.37

23.0

60.2%

15

Kwame Brown

CHA

50

0.02

9.1

62.8%

-1.13

26.1

63.8%

16

Ryan Hollins

CLE

16

-0.19

9.4

63.5%

2.51

21.7

58.1%

17

Marcin Gortat

PHX

12

-0.25

8.5

65.3%

-0.39

19.6

66.4%

18

Chuck Hayes

HOU

63

-0.26

10.3

62.8%

-2.06

24.2

66.8%

19

Joakim Noah

CHI

48

-0.35

9.0

65.0%

-0.09

25.4

62.1%

20

Darko Milicic

MIN

69

-0.36

9.3

64.7%

-0.79

24.2

64.1%

21

Tyson Chandler

DAL

74

-0.45

9.4

65.0%

1.32

23.2

60.2%

22

Brook Lopez

NJN

82

-0.53

11.7

62.4%

0.10

25.8

61.5%

23

Zaza Pachulia

ATL

7

-0.66

9.7

65.6%

-1.06

23.7

65.0%

24

Andris Biedrins

GSW

55

-0.70

10.3

64.9%

-2.72

24.8

67.7%

25

DeAndre Jordan

LAC

66

-0.94

10.0

66.6%

-0.25

23.3

63.6%

26

Emeka Okafor

NOH

72

-0.98

8.4

70.0%

0.03

22.9

63.1%

27

Brendan Haywood

DAL

8

-1.23

10.4

67.3%

-0.06

23.4

63.0%

28

Greg Monroe

DET

48

-1.25

11.3

66.0%

-3.00

28.2

66.1%

29

Andrea Bargnani

TOR

66

-2.03

13.3

66.5%

-0.89

29.6

61.7%

30

JaVale McGee

WAS

75

-2.76

11.6

72.2%

-3.26

25.3

68.4%

Here's a look at the correlation between the counterpart and non-counterpart PSAMD rating.

Psamd_medium

It turns out that there is a pretty good correlation (and it's statistically significant). The R^2=0.26 means that roughly 26% of the (team) defense against positions 1-4 is explained by the (individual) defense against the center counterpart. In plain English, this means that the counterpart metric is doing a fairly good job of telling us who the best interior defenders are. There are some interesting outliers, though. For example, Joel Anthony has a very good counterpart rating, but his non-counterpart rating is much higher than would be predicted by the regression. One explanation for this is that his teammates are exceptionally good at interior defense. I imagine few of you would argue with this logic. Another interesting outlier is Samuel Dalembert. He actually had a slightly above average counterpart rating, but the non-counterpart rating when he is on the floor is the worst among all centers. If Joel Anthony plays with above average interior defenders, it is probably safe to say that Dalembert plays with well-below-average interior defenders.

If we add the counterpart rating to the non-counterpart rating, we get the total rating for interior defense:

PSAMD Total Rating for Centers

One name that caught my eye is Ryan Hollins. Might be an interesting name to watch out for next off-season. He's in the last year of his contract (~$3M).

RANK

NAME

TEAM

GS

TOT

RATE

EFF

1

Joel Anthony

MIA

11

5.62

34.52

54.0%

2

Andrew Bogut

MIL

65

3.89

34.56

56.6%

3

Tim Duncan

SAS

76

3.49

31.53

57.8%

4

Dwight Howard

ORL

78

3.38

26.79

59.4%

5

Andrew Bynum

LAL

47

3.15

32.68

58.1%

6

Ryan Hollins

CLE

16

2.33

31.17

59.8%

7

Ronny Turiaf

NYK

21

2.26

33.42

59.2%

8

Roy Hibbert

IND

80

1.69

34.44

59.8%

9

Zydrunas Ilgauskas

MIA

51

1.60

34.82

59.8%

10

Spencer Hawes

PHI

81

1.46

34.27

60.1%

11

Marcus Camby

POR

51

1.05

35.33

60.4%

12

Tyson Chandler

DAL

74

0.87

32.56

61.6%

13

Nene Hilario

DEN

75

0.81

31.98

61.9%

14

Al Jefferson

UTA

82

-0.38

34.57

62.7%

15

Brook Lopez

NJN

82

-0.43

37.56

61.8%

16

Joakim Noah

CHI

48

-0.44

34.45

62.8%

17

Marcin Gortat

PHX

12

-0.64

28.13

66.1%

18

Emeka Okafor

NOH

72

-0.95

31.26

65.0%

19

Marc Gasol

MEM

81

-1.07

33.76

64.0%

20

Kwame Brown

CHA

50

-1.11

35.21

63.5%

21

Darko Milicic

MIN

69

-1.15

33.47

64.3%

22

DeAndre Jordan

LAC

66

-1.19

33.21

64.5%

23

Brendan Haywood

DAL

8

-1.29

33.84

64.3%

24

Zaza Pachulia

ATL

7

-1.73

33.35

65.2%

25

Chuck Hayes

HOU

63

-2.32

34.45

65.6%

26

Andrea Bargnani

TOR

66

-2.92

42.84

63.2%

27

Samuel Dalembert

SAC

46

-3.15

33.63

67.2%

28

Andris Biedrins

GSW

55

-3.42

35.15

66.8%

29

Greg Monroe

DET

48

-4.25

39.45

66.1%

30

JaVale McGee

WAS

75

-6.03

36.90

69.6%

 

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Except maybe post defense?

Yet his +/- numbers are atrocious.

Ron Paul 2012

by GovernorStephCurry on Oct 16, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's a terrible rebounder

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by Evanz on Oct 16, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking more of a replacement for Amundson

not a starting center

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by Evanz on Oct 16, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think you could play Udoh and Hollins at the same time.

I shutter at all our big-man combo’s not involving DLee offensively. And then i shutter at onces with DLee on the offensive end.

by tafkasam on Oct 16, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

And then i shutter at onces with DLee on the offensive end.

Defensive*?

Ron Paul 2012

by GovernorStephCurry on Oct 16, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not the problem

All we need is Dwight Howard, Lebron, Tony allen and Rondo and defensively we’ll be amazing with DLee at PF.

Kind of like how Joe Blanton was a member of potentially the greatest pitching staff in baseball (with the Phils last year)

by tafkasam on Oct 17, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of like how Joe Blanton Barry Zito was a member of potentially the greatest pitching staff in baseball

Over

by cybermaldonado on Oct 19, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

*shudder

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Oct 16, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

*combos

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Oct 16, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

“onces”?

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Oct 16, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Note to self: Don't post on GSoM when I have a flu

Apparently it not only drains my energy, it also retards my english.

by tafkasam on Oct 17, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reviewing Warriors moves:

It looks like Monroe sucks defensively, so maybe a dodged bullet there, yet we acquired a horrible defensive player (Lee) for a very good one (Turiaf). Only time will tell I guess.

Ron Paul 2012

by GovernorStephCurry on Oct 16, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

It’s something I’d like to see confirmed with some real data, but it’s long been my impression than players can and often do improve their defense with time in the league. They adjust to the speed of the game and player tendencies, so I don’t know if Monroe will always be a defensive sieve and if that’s really dodging a bullet.

by jae on Oct 17, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I do know is...

We dodged an offensively productive 20 year old big, who can rebound his position and shows a lot of potential and instead signed a comparable 27 year old with less upside for approximately 10 mil a year more.

Keep in mind most players efficiency isn’t very efficient their first year in the league, especially if they get high useage. Rookie PF/C’s off top of my head-
Chris Bosh- 12.3 pp36, .513 TS%
Kevin Love- 15.8 pp36, .538 TS%
Al Horford- 11.6 pp36, .539 TS%
LaMarcus Aldridge- 14.6 pp36, .533 TS%
Zack Randolph- 17.6pp36, .479 TS%
Kevin Garnett- 13.1 pp36, .511 TS%
Joakim Noah- 11.5 pp36, .539 TS%

Greg Monroe- 12.2 pp36, .575 TS%

More or less, all those players would be described as more finesse or skilled bigs than power ones (like Amare, Blake, Dwight). All of them were more or less his age as rookies. Some a little younger, some a little older.

MAybe Monroe doesn’t improve, but I think considering his skill set, and high bbiq, he will score on higher volume, rebound his position, and probably get more efficient.

Fit or not, passing on him was a huge mistake. Considering he’d make maximium 14 mil over 4 years, it’s even sillier. To pass on a 20 year old with his potential because we wanted to acquire a 27 year old David Lee, who (while better now) is not a difference maker peice worth capping us out, while paying him 80 mil, makes it even worse.

I like Udoh’s D. I think Udoh will become a good rotation big. Taj Gibson upside. ROnny Turiaf upside. A good player, but a very findable player, and especially if you have someone like Monroe who is physically capable of playing center, even an easier find at PF spot.

By the way, his post all-star numbers were 14.9pp36, 10.9 rp36, .613 TS%

by tafkasam on Oct 17, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

The decision was between Monroe and Udoh, not DLee. In all likelihood, they would have still traded for Lee and we would be treated to a defensive frontcourt of Lee and Monroe, with Biedrins off the bench.

by ERock386 on Oct 24, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute

You know Monroe is a rookie right? “I’m glad I didn’t draft a center who can immediately contribute on offense and rebounding and has upside on defense”?

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
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by doubleteapot on Oct 23, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never said i'm glad.

I said maybe we dodged a bullet and he’s the next David Lee. I would have drafted him over Udoh but at least Udoh is a very good defensive player.

Ron Paul 2012

by GovernorStephCurry on Oct 23, 2011 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

somehow I see him being more Al Jefferson

a better scorer than Lee, better moves down low

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by Evanz on Oct 23, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except Monroe has excellent efficiency for a rookie, and was off the charts for a rookie in second half

(.613 TS% on 14.9pp36 for a 20 year old is VERY intriguing).

I don’t know that he likes to bang downlow like Al. He uses more finesse, and mid range game, definitely a better passer.

I also believe, defensively, we would have found it easier to find a ‘defensive 4’ than a ‘defensive 5’ to go with his offense. A Taj Gibson/Udonis Haslem type maybe even Chuck Hayes… or heck, trading AR for the 8th to 10th pick and grab Udoh.

by tafkasam on Oct 25, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ryan Hollins . . .

Am I confused? Isn’t Ryan Hollins below average at stopping his matchup according to this metric? Isn’t it saying he’s only so high because of the consideration of the 1-4 opponents’ struggles when he’s on the court (which, according to you, may just reflect that he plays with good teammates)? And this metric is pretty flawed indeed.

I hope I don’t sound like a dick — I love what you’re trying to look at with this metric. I’m a huge Evanz fan.

by davidgsw on Oct 17, 2011 12:45 PM PDT reply actions  

stopping his counterpart*

not his matchup. Important distinction.

by davidgsw on Oct 17, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s slightly below average on the counterpart metric, although well above Beans, for example. On the second metric he is above average which implies he is helping his teammates a lot, his teammates are well above average, or a bit of both.

Given what we know about Cleveland, my guess would be that he’s a pretty good help defender. I haven’t watched him play enough to know for sure.

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by Evanz on Oct 17, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

question

do you guys really not like football?

by mekanikal on Oct 17, 2011 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Personally...Not particularly

-No real technical skill involved, just athleticism and some hand-eye coordination
-Too long
-Too stop and go

Basketball is free flowing, artistic, lots more improvisation

by tafkasam on Oct 17, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m with you, boars me to tears.

"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."

Frank Zappa

by qin on Oct 18, 2011 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m with you, boars me to tears.

I hate it when pigs make me cry.

by jae on Oct 18, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s not all that brings tears to mine eyes ….

~ an original fan of the SF Warriors

by hardcore on Oct 18, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s my favorite Prince song.

by Reverend_Randy on Oct 19, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

plenty of

art about football, synchronising between great players on offensive and defensive teams and the battle of opposing offensive and defensive teams, how large the playbook is and how much positioning matters.

The Beginning of the "We Believe" Movement of Melbourne, Australia.

by DoomBizzle on Oct 19, 2011 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love football

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by Evanz on Oct 17, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

in fact I wrote most of this while watching the Niners game

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by Evanz on Oct 17, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate the NFL.

But i love my Niners.

Ron Paul 2012

by GovernorStephCurry on Oct 17, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think I'm in the minority

of people who actually thought Smith could
be a decent QB with a coaching staff that didn’t change every year/midseason.

Consistency helps.

MOON LANDING? BEAR GRYLLS!

by Anonymous1337 on Oct 18, 2011 9:13 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I felt the exact same way.

Especially after having 2 average years with a horrible coach in Singletary.

Ron Paul 2012

by GovernorStephCurry on Oct 18, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Consistency helps.

More than that. Coaching helps. Harbaugh and his staff can actually teach.

People forget Smith was 20 when he came out, and only 2 years of college (redshirt sophomore). Only ‘teacher’ he really had was Norv Turner.

Still think he’s middle of the road, but that’s fine considering rest of the team.

Now I am interested to see what Palmer does with my Raiders. Hue’s worked with him in the past and in Palmer’s most successful years.

by tafkasam on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, everyone quickly forgets what having Norv Turner as an OC did for Smith. For a year, it looked like he was on his way to becoming a great QB. It’s nice that they decided to hire someone who actually knows something about how to coach the most important position on the field.

Side note- I find myself wondering how good Kaepernick could be. It seems like every QB from this past draft is lighting it up- Newton, Dalton, Ponder. Rookie QBs aren’t supposed to be this good.

by ERock386 on Oct 25, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

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