DeAndre Jordan Has Signed 4yr $43m Offer Sheet with the Golden State Warriors + Warriors Use Amnesty on Charlie Bell, Rescind QO on Reggie Williams
by olympicmike on Dec 11, 2011 2:20 PM PST
in Rumors
Email
PrintUPDATE:
To clear up some confusion I've bumped the original article and earlier updates below the jump, and we'll keep you posted on the latest on Jordan here on the front page.
DeAndre Jordan has signed a 4 year, $43 million offer sheet with Golden State, agent Greg Lawrence tells Y!
Adrian Wojnarowski via Twitter
Looks like it's a done deal. Now we sit and wait to see what the Clippers will do. They will have three days to match if they so choose.
Earlier Updates:
To clear up some confusion I've bumped the original article and earlier updates below the jump, and we'll keep you posted on the latest on Jordan here on the front page.
Warriors have amnestied Charlie Bell and rescinded qualifying offer to Reggie Williams, clearing room for DeAndre Jordan offer sheet.
Looks like we should see news on the offer sheet very soon.
Clippers still haven't seen offer sheet for RFA C DeAndre Jordan, but expected to late afternoon. The 4yr offer is in the $42 million range.
Yahoo's Marc Spears via Twitter
So it looks like the Warriors still intend to sign Jordan to an offer sheet this afternoon. The rumored price has gone up though, now expected to be at $42mil. Will this be enough to keep the Clippers from matching, or will it be inconsequential?
The Los Angeles Clippers plan to match the Golden State Warriors' offer sheet of four years and $40 million for center DeAndre Jordan, a league source said, a move that will practically force starting center Chris Kaman to seek a trade elsewhere, according to a second source.
Possible Ws could put Jordan offer sheet on hold to get back in for CPaul. It's risky & means Klay Thompson, J.Tyler remain off court.
So it would seem that the Warriors have not yet signed Jordan to an offer sheet. As Matt reported last night, they have to wait for Lin to clear waivers some time today, and this morning he's reporting that they may put the offer on hold anyway. The Clippers wasted no time signaling through the media that they would match the Warriors rumored offer, but it's still not clear if this was a bluff to get the Warriors to shift their focus elsewhere or if they truly intend to match. We'll keep you posted as details emerge.
Original Article:
It's been clear for the last 24 hours that the Warriors have been maneuvering to find a way to offer DeAndre Jordan enough to sign him to an offer sheet, so it should be no surprise that Matt Steinmetz is reporting tonight that the Warriors will in fact sign Jordan to a 4yr $40mil offer sheet.
Warriors to sign DeAndre Jordan to 4-year, $40 million offer sheet Sunday. No Biedrins amnesty to do it. http://bit.ly/t4OBTN
Matt notes that they found a way to do it without using the amnesty on Andris, which would be a huge gamble considering the Clippers will have three days to match the offer, and with Andris gone they could find themselves without a center on the roster come Wednesday. Unfortunately it looks like in order to create the space necessary to make the offer the Warriors will likely have to use the amnesty on Charlie Bell. This isn't unfortunate because we'd be losing Bell, but because it would be quite a waste to use the amnesty on a rather small expiring contract, especially if we end up losing out on Jordan. One other downside to the situation is that it seems the Warriors may have to hold their rookies out of practice until a decision is made on Jordan, because they will need every bit of cap space they have to field the offer to Jordan. The difference between the cap hold for rookies and the actual signing amount is pretty slim, so that should give you an idea of what kind of margins the Warriors are working with to make this offer.
So far there haven't been any reports as to whether the Clippers are expected to match the offer. My gut, and the fact that Jordan and Blake Griffin are close friends, tells me that they probably will. Or I should say it did until a few minutes ago, when reports started showing up that the Clippers were back in the hunt for Chris Paul. Without any further details, I can't say for sure whether this makes it more or less likely, but it is certainly a game changer for the franchise. We'll have to watch closely to see who the Clippers are offering for Paul, and how that might affect their desire, or ability to match a deal this size.
I haven't been a big fan of the idea of signing Jordan to a $10mil per year deal to this point. He's long and athletic, with all the raw tools to be a very capable center in this league, but has always struck me as a player that loses focus on both ends, and can get a step behind the action on the court mentally. Of course at only 23 years old there is still plenty of room for improvement when it comes to basketball IQ and on court discipline. He's already shown that he can be incredibly efficient on offense, and he could be on the cusp of making that jump that puts him in the conversation with the better centers in the league. The Warriors have promised a bold move, and taking a gamble on a young developing big by offering a long-term, big-money contract is definitely a bold move. Whether it pays off, and whether Jordan ever even plays a game in a Warriors jersey, still remains to be seen.
515 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Sometimes no move(s) is the best move
Although I like DeAndre, we still have Beans, and we also have Tyler. DeAndre will give us an imposing player down low, but he has no offensive post moves at all, all he can do is putback and dunk. He’s a good weak side defender and a rebounder as well so maybe he can compliment Lee well. Time will tell.
I still hope we tank…
"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum
by ejdacanay on Dec 11, 2011 12:25 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
it's depressing that people still hope we tank
even though even without Jordan I still expect us to be an over .500 team with:
1) new coaching staff
2) new emphasis on D
3) Curry growing up
4) Bell/Law/Etc not getting playing time over Curry
5) Curry becoming primary ball handler
6) Ellis going off the ball
With DeAndre I could easily see us join the convo for 8th seed, if not 7th.
NO MORE TANKING….PLZ
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 12:29 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i never said they have
I’m saying it’s depressing people WANT them to tank still…I wanted them to tank before….after we already were failing mid season…but people wanting them to tank before the season starts is just depressing.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 12:32 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
well you said no more tanking
you cant really have more tanking until you have tanking in the first place
stop knit-picking my words
The title says what it says
I meant stop hoping for tanking…plz..
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 12:34 AM PST up reply actions
Tanking is how the Clippers got Jordan. And Blake. And Gordon. And… they leapfrog over us again. Sad.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 11, 2011 2:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Can't remember-
Did they actively tank? Or did they just suck?
Also, they got Jordan 2nd round. Gordon was 7th overall. Aside from Blake (which they definitely lucked into), it’s not like they’ve had significantly better picks than the Warriors have recently.
LOL, they sucked
Tank? I don’t think Donald Sterling was thinking about tanking when he decided to not spend any money.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 8:15 AM PST up reply actions
They’ve done it at least three separate occassions. Remember them getting Odom, Olowokandi, Miles, Richardson, and trading Chandler for Brand? That was a playoff team being built through the draft too.
My point is that they build throug the draft, and that despite having the most famously awful owner, they make the playoffs more than us. Do you disagree?
by Uwe Blog on Dec 11, 2011 11:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
They drafted all those players because their team stunk.
What I was replying to was your claim that they got Jordan, Gordon, and Griffin by tanking. I don’t recall them tanking. They just never were able to re-sign their players because Sterling was too cheap or the players just didn’t want to stay there.
I agree that they’ve been more successful than the Warriors recently, but I disagree that they got to where they’re at by tanking.
At least they stick with their plans, not like the half foot in, half foot out Warriors.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
lol
and what was their plan exactly?
Suck for a decade until we luck into Blake Griffin?
yet they had as many playoff appearances as us over that span
and they’re in a better position than us moving forward
yeah
And they’ve only won 2 playoff series in the past 30+ years, and those were both in the same year. They’re the epitome of success.
They won 32 games last year and all of a sudden we want to follow their blueprint? Without Griffin (the rest of that draft was pretty weak), they’re much worse off than the Warriors.
What’s the difference between tanking and having a bad team? I’m not saying put good players out and ask them to play poorly. Tear down the roster.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 11, 2011 4:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
pretty simple
They weren’t trying to lose. They just weren’t good.
And tell me when exactly the “tore down” the roster. As I said before, they simply didn’t re-sign most of their players- that’s not tanking.
Why not? If you’re not trying to win as many games as you can, at some level you’re tanking.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Repeat:
They were not trying to lose or not win or however you want to say it.
Am I really the only one that sees this distinction? Were the Warriors tanking when they hired Mullin to be GM? No, they just made a bad hire and the team was bad as a result.
So again- when exactly did the Clippers tear down the roster and try to lose games?
(refer to response below from Clippers fan if you still aren’t convinced)
clips didnt tank
i grew up a clips fan in l.a. before moving up here to follow clips-north. the teams just always sucked. i remember fans used to want the team to tank and would get mad at dunleavy for getting useless wins at the end of the season and not getting worse records for better draft picks. so yeah i believe that the teams just always sucked.
>:(
When they hired Mullin as the GM
Man, I don’t care nothing about no Mike Montgomery.
by bloodsweatndonuts on Dec 11, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sorry dude
But a big reason why we’ve been mediocre in the (And that’s generous) past two decades is because we are not a strong drafting team and we’re always in the NBA’s middle ground; we can never draft high enough and we haven’t had enough playoff appearances or consistency to show free agents and potential trade candidates that the Warriors are a good place to go to.
Since 1994 we’ve had TWO, TWO winning seasons. Draft wise we’ve only had 4 top 5 picks. And 12 picks after the 9th overall. To top it off we didn’t even draft well when we had a high pick.
We’re going to lose a pick in a projected good NBA draft and with it being top heavy I firmly believe that we should aim to get a good pick this year.
"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum
by ejdacanay on Dec 11, 2011 12:50 AM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Tanking affords us to expidite the developement of our rookies and at the same time take advantage of this strong draft!!!
Tanking is the brave option, it will hurt now but pay off in the years to come
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Dec 11, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
Not tanking per se, but I would love a complete youth movement.
That should in itself get you bad enough for a top-5 pick. If signing DeAndre Jordan is our “bold move” then I feel like we might as well go young. We’re not making the playoffs adding Jordan as our biggest offseason acquisition.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
With the exception of #4, the exact same things were true last season.
That didn’t exactly work out.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 11, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Great we aim for that end-all-be-all 8th seed. We're dreaming big people.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
I think it’s a reasonable offer and the guy will have trade value down the road. it’s not hard to move a strong, athletic center with shot blocking and rebounding. We may not get back anything fantastic, but he’d still be tradeable, unlike David Lee, whose contract is bigger and whose defense is absolute garbage.
I'm the soul brotha' like no other!
I won't be upset if we don't get him
Tyler can virtually be the same player with slightly less explosiveness and more finesse.
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.
He's never played a game in the NBA...don't get ahead of yourself
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 12:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i have much more faith in beans returning to form than i do in tyler becoming anything more than a backup
by bigkino217 on Dec 11, 2011 12:34 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Forgot he was left-handed
That settles it. No Deandre for the Warriors.
Left-handed + tall + Warriors = FAIL
Everybody is so certain that DJ is going to have a ton of long term trade potential. Why? The big money contract is based on his potential, but if he doesn’t improve, then he’s just a mediocre big guy on a big contract. And Jordan hasn’t shown an upward trend in his rate stats — in fact, he already regressed last year when given starter minutes.
Formerly ffgolden.
Because $10m a year for an athletic, shot-blocking and rebounding big isn't absurd.
by Ronaldinho on Dec 11, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Well it is for a player who hasn't proven much, doesn't have a very good understanding of the fundamentals, and has a questionable work ethic.
Not to mention in his best NBA season, he averaged 7ppg and 7 rpg. This contract was completely absurd.
by TheDaydreamer on Dec 11, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
No disagreement.
But my point is that DeAndre, even if he doesn’t improve, isn’t an albatross at $10m. He’s overpaid by a few million dollars. Now a few million here and a few million there and all of a sudden you’re talking real money, sure.
But it’s not crippling.
Isn’t that like saying Lee’s contract isn’t an albatross because he’s only overpaid by a few million dollars?
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 12, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
Well, I like by the end of his contract, Lee is likely to be overpaid by $6-9m ...
and that’s real NBA money. $9m gets you a pretty good player.
But I tend to think that any one overpay is not actually that crippling. I mean, isn’t the Clippers signing Butler a $5m overpay? Does that cripple them?
The Mavs just won the title getting nothing for Haywood’s $7m, and overpaying Jason Terry by at least $3-4 million a year probably more like 5 or 6. The Lakers will be going into this season with at least $10m worth of overpay going to Kobe Bryant. The Heat were the best team in the league during the regular season last year overpaying Bosh by $4-5 (compared to what they got for him) and Mller by $3m (despite not being in tax territory. The Bulls are a potential title favorite with $4-5m in overpay going to Boozer and another couple going of million in overpay going to Deng.
Ric Bucher...
Look for the Clippers to match GSW’s 4yr, $40m offer sheet to DeAndre Jordan. Also look for C and FA-to-be Chris Kaman to be on the move.
thanks..
pretty obv this offer wasn’t very agressive…when you really want a guy you make it tough on the opposing team to match….especially when they have been clamoring about matching anything…2 mill more annually, same amount of years…pretty uninspiring and shows they aren’t in love with Jordan yet are willing to waste an asset and cap themselves out for the next 3 years.
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Dec 11, 2011 1:22 AM PST up reply actions
We all saw this coming
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions
The De Andre Jordan band-aid
and idiotic decision to waste the amnesty on a 4 mill expiring is all I need to know about this organization. This team is a mess in need of a blow up…clips will match thankfully, but my hope for better ownership is much less optimistic after this debacle.
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Dec 11, 2011 1:20 AM PST reply actions
The ownership likes David Lee and Biedrins has trade value and can still rebound. Plus, if we amnestied Biedrins and didn’t get a C, we’d be completely screwed. You could make a case, though, that they should have done nothing and never made an offer for DJ. That way, they could have amnestied David Lee down the road. That’s what I would have done.
I'm the soul brotha' like no other!
It’s impossible to tell, but it seems like more of the older fans want to start from scratch, whlie the younger fans preach faith in Lacob, Riley, Lee, and now Deandre. Obviously, that’s a blanket observation and there are exceptions, but that’s the impression I get based on posting styles and the last few years of reading GSoM. I wonder what truth there is to that perception.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 11, 2011 11:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
By older I mean over 27. This is still the internet, where 50 is ancient.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 11, 2011 11:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
i'm younger by those standards
and i dont have faith in anyone outside of stephen curry at this point (maybe dorell, but i dont believe he’s a top 4 player on a championship team unless your top 3 is absurdly good)
I am also several years under your line
And I’m not sure I am in love with anyone on the roster. Curry’s young and one of the league’s best shooters but he telegraphs his passes with that wind up and plays no defense at all.
Or did you mean young as in tYpEz liKe diS lulZ
by RACE!! on Dec 12, 2011 9:12 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Blanket perceptions are going to have lots of holes… that’s why I was wondering.
I fear it’s too late to build around Curry. We should have started that movement last year when the new ownership took over. I’m fairly convinced that we need 3 awful seasons to draft a core, and Curry only has two left under contract. That said, I don’t think buying the most expensive free agents that will sign with us is the way to keep him.
If Deandre is a Warriors now, that will be 4 contracts on the roster that I’d rather see on someone else’s team. Unfortunately, they are our 4 biggest contracts.
I can’t express enough how disappointed I am in the new ownership. They look a lot like the old one right now.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 12, 2011 11:13 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm hopeful
That it’s incompetence born of inexperience and not whatever black thing lurked in Cohan’s soul.
That being said I agree with you. We are tied into 3 and perhaps 4 exorbitant contracts that will cripple us for years, our best player in years to come out of the draft can’t be expected to stay beyond his rookie deal.
I hope we move monta this year. I think that’s the start. At 22 beans could still grow up a little and learn to shoot free throws with a little confidence.
David lee is overpaid. His success on the Knicks was because he played at the 5, and the ran a bunch of screen plays to trap bigger slower defenders so he could get open. He is a talented player I would hope myers (or Malone?) could do some work to let him be effective.
We have just come off a run of miserable, miserable coaches. I’m not sure that this new group will be better but we need to give them a chance before condemning them.
by RACE!! on Dec 12, 2011 11:45 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I hope Dalembert will be available
I think the clips will match, unless getting cp3 and keeping Jordan will be too expensive.
by Xtremelink on Dec 11, 2011 1:31 AM PST via mobile reply actions
rather have dalembert...
deandre’s not going to take us anywhere we aren’t already going
http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/
I do not want Chris Paul...keep Steph, Klay and our young guys
All this talk of making a splash….It should be a splash for a BIG not giving up a bunch of guys for CP3, who is coming off surgery, and doesn’t want to be here.
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 11, 2011 12:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
time to look at..
Jeff Foster, Kyrylo Fesenko, Francisco Elson, Samuel Dalembert, Jeff Foster, Etan Thomas, etc… not the sexist names, but ehh, gotta fill out the roster one way or the other
Dalembert
He should be cheaper than Jordan and the warriors can use a vet that’s not a drunk.
by Xtremelink on Dec 11, 2011 4:12 AM PST via mobile reply actions
If the Clippers are seriously interested in Paul
they might let Jordan walk
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
"Also, Evanz’ posts are easiest to hide while working. The chats and graphs can look like actual work related data to the lazy walker-by’s eye" (tafkasam)
No better time to have Jordan sign the offer sheet
If Clips are worried about CP3 and even remotely thinking about him, it’s almost improbable they sign DeAndre and still try to find a way to get CP3 or even Dwight…
Golden State Warriors fan since 1984. The Filipino sensation!
The loudest Warrior fan in Section 208, Row DS, Seats 15-16.
So what's the rumored deal that would prevent them from signing Jordan?
I would think that a package of Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe, and the Minnestoa pick would be plenty and allow them to keep Jordan, especially if they amnesty Gomes or Foye, right?
if they also want to go after Dwight...
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
"Also, Evanz’ posts are easiest to hide while working. The chats and graphs can look like actual work related data to the lazy walker-by’s eye" (tafkasam)
So then what would that deal be?
side note- I wonder if they regret having signed Caron Butler now.
It was a bad contract from the start
8 million a year for a 31 year old scoring SF who had a major, season-ending injury?
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 8:01 AM PST up reply actions
yeah
Seemed like on of those stupid signings that might’ve made sense to them on the surface.
Well, we need a SF, he plays SF, he’s a veteran, he has a ring, and we have to spend this money before we sign Deandre, Blake, and Gordon. Here you go Caron!
Wait, you suck at basketball? Crap.
He has been good at basketball
But always as a role player. He’s basically the guy who scores when the main options can’t score. If he pans out the deal won’t be bad, but I just wonder how good he is because he is 31 years old and he is recovering from a serious injury.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
Glad the W’s missed out on trying to sign other players and wasted the amnesty on Charlie Bell… so Jordan could make an extra $2 mil per year. (sigh)
Man, this is all pretty depressing
So..after a day of not checking, the big warriors news is that we signed a wing from the d league, and made an offer on a RFA that’s pretty much a no brainer to match
Here’s hoping Biedrens is the answer
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 11, 2011 7:24 AM PST via mobile reply actions
It should be refreshing.
They aren’t barreling head first into a dumb contract that will cripple us from actually getting better (rather than a lateral movement).
They signed two 6'8" rookies!
For the love of god will we ever have a good, tall player? Ever? Please?? I just want one starting-calibre, tall player and I will die a happy man.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
So now do we go after Dalenbert?
Looks like “big things” will not be coming
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Even back before the season ended I thought Dalembert made a lot of sense. It just seemed like the Kings liked him too much to let him go. So I guess Hayes at least might’ve done the Warriors some good by signing there.
If they can get Dalembert for a reasonable deal, I think it’s a pretty good get (rather have him for 3 yr $7-8 mil than Jordan fwiw). Anyone know what the price for Dalembert is? Also, does anyone know of a decent nickname we could use in case the W’s sign him? I hate typing out Dalembert.
I'm not as high on Dalembert
He has been a very average center.
His nickname could be Sammy D? IDK
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
average is an upgrade; and I think he could compliment Lee pretty well, too
And although Andris is pretty much dead to me, if there’s a slight chance that he could return to form, signing Dal (I can’t come up with anything either) would probably allow the W’s to keep Biedrins and see what he can do.
I was way more into overpaying Jordan. At least he has upside. Dalembert’s exactly the kind of signing that defines mediocrity. Of course, it’s likely we won’t even get him.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
and I think he could compliment Lee pretty well, too
I’m much rather have someone who can play basketball than to sign a guy for benefit of another player’s ego.
hahha
I have this image of him ghost surfing every thread, just waiting for this exact spelling error
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 12, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
match what
we haven’t even made an offer yet…they are bluffing
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
we havent.
You can’t do it until today, not last night.
also:
Matt Steinmetz @MSteinmetzCSN 34 mins Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Possible Ws could put Jordan offer sheet on hold to get back in for CPaul. It’s risky & means Klay Thompson, J.Tyler remain off court.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
CP3 is not going anywhere.
You think stopping the Lakers deal was bad press? Wait for the PRmaggedon that happens when Stern lets a trade to another team go through.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
he stopped it because NOH were getting 3 10M 3yr contracts
he said he’d let it go through if the deal was for a better talented player OR young players/contracts/picks.
GSW and LAC can offer that.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Mark my words:
it’s not happening.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
mark my words, CP3 will be traded somewhere before the season starts.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
I have marked all these words...
just so you guys know.
by olympicmike on Dec 11, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Mark my words:
You will not regret having marked my words, for they shall hold true!
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Haha
I’m already feeling good about it.
by olympicmike on Dec 11, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
warriors 3rd team in a sign and trade with knicks and hawks
who are the warriors going to get?
oh
sign and trade? who do the dubs get?
by gswarriors12 on Dec 11, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
rumors tony douglas
source has said trade is better then 50-50 to go through
another gaurd?
well i guess he could back up curry if jenkins isnt gonna cut it bc lin is waived. how much is tony’s salary? and whered u see this rumor?
by gswarriors12 on Dec 11, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
ah woops, douglas would be going to atlanta, not sure where GS comes in...
but i got it here:
this what i believe..
ATL S&T Crawford to NY
GSW trades Bell to ATL
NY trades Douglas to ATL
ATL receives Bell and Douglas
GSW receives perhaps a TPE or 2nd rd pick
NY receives Crawford
why would they include GS?
whou wouldnt they just do a crawford for douglas swap…do they really want bell that badly?
it's sign and trade
Crawford wants more money, so hawks need to make the deal work…contracts dont match
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
to make salary match is my guess
NY only has $2.2M TPE (i think) and Douglas is due to make less than $2M
NY is trying to sign Crawford to a +$5M contact
yes
now we can get rid of bell, get a 2nd round pick, and keep our amnesty
by gswarriors12 on Dec 11, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
i hope turiaf!
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
wherd u guys read this
the knicks already traded turiaf to wizards in a 3 team deal for TC sign and trade with mavs
by gswarriors12 on Dec 11, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
oh, just kidding!
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
Well...
Technically, I don’t think they have yet. They are waiting for Lin to clear waivers today before they amnesty Bell and can officially present the offer sheet. I’m kinda hoping that the CP3 development, and the word that the Clippers plan to match this offer might mean last minute changes in plan for the Warriors.
Haha
and on that note:
Possible Ws could put Jordan offer sheet on hold to get back in for CPaul. It’s risky & means Klay Thompson, J.Tyler remain off court.
From Steinmetz.
That actually doesn’t seem risky at all to me. Seems like it’s the prudent move to step back and weigh other options.
if they give up Curry for a one-year rental of Paul, I think I'm out as a Warriors fan
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
by Evanz on Dec 11, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m pretty disgusted at how the Warriors’ brass have been trying to maneuver through this compressed off-season. They’re clearly over-matched.
@DoctorKajita
by Doctor Kajita on Dec 11, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah...
They won’t, and I don’t think we have any shot at CP3 without giving him up. I do think they should reevaluate their decision on Jordan. They can’t offer enough to keep the Clipps from matching, so they might be better off seeing what else they can come up with.
Not feeling good about our options.
i think curry should stay as our pg
i really see him breaking out this year to one of the top pgs in the nba
by gswarriors12 on Dec 11, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Update: Bucher says Clippers will match
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
they have nothing to match, its a bluff
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
why would they bluff?
Jordan already signed the offer sheet
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
why did it say "Warriors to sign Jordan to offer sheet"?
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
'to'
means they will, in the future…but they would have this morning…and have decided to wait it out to see if they can get cp3
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
that was last night
no deals could be offered or completed last night.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
not true.
Matt Steinmetz @MSteinmetzCSN 34 mins Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Possible Ws could put Jordan offer sheet on hold to get back in for CPaul. It’s risky & means Klay Thompson, J.Tyler remain off court.
we haven’t even made one yet, just said we would.
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
I'm taking it for granted that he will sign it
why wouldn’t he?
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
sign what
we havent given th offer sheet yet, we havent amnestied bell yet….don’t get ahead of yourself
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
ok, ok
settle down
I assumed the reporter was reporting something he knew was going to happen for sure
not the first time they’ve been wrong
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
warriors can't offer a sheet till Lin clears waivers and we make space
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
For the love of god if we all know the Clippers will match $10million/yr then so does the Ws FO! This just doesn’t add up.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
why not make an offer and make the clips match?
i dont see the problem, especially if we trade bell to the hawks
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
The problem is you're purposefully not getting the player you just offered a contract!
Why wouldn’t they at least attempt to get him?
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
huh? i'm confused by what you're saying....
how are we purposefully not getting him?
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Because everyone, including you and I, already knows the Clippers will match the offer! Either that is not true, or we’re purposefully making an offer we know will be matched.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
It is strange...
In theory it could just be a bluff so the Warriors won’t inflate Jordan’s price with an offer. I’m curious to see how the Dubs react. Seems like they may have put the offer on hold, but who knows if it’s really to try for Paul, or just because they know the Clipps will match.
by olympicmike on Dec 11, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I was...
Now it’s too late. Get ready for a worse team than last year…
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 12, 2011 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
apparently keeping Jordan might help entice Paul
But sources also say New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul’s interest in potentially being traded to the Clippers stems, in part, from the prospect of playing with Jordan, who is a younger, stronger version of Tyson Chandler, with whom Paul played for three seasons in New Orleans before Chandler was dealt in 2009 to the Charlotte Bobcats.
Letting Jordan go would impair the franchise’s chances of keeping Griffin, who is still on his rookie contract, and landing Paul, who is once more on the market after the Lakers, Houston Rockets and Hornets failed to complete a proposed deal that would’ve sent Paul to the Lakers.
“That’s a lot of money for a guy who hasn’t really proved anything yet, but it’s cheaper than what losing Blake Griffin would do to their fan base,” one league executive said.
A source said when Paul made his decision last week he wanted to be dealt to the Lakers, the Clippers had finished a very strong second among his suitors, which also included the Boston Celtics and the Warriors.
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
why does everyone think the clippers will be so good with paul?
alley oops dont win games.
by gswarriors12 on Dec 11, 2011 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
When you have the best PG in the NBA and a top 6 player overall, you will definitely win. If the Clips find a way not to give up Gordon, you have a future star off guard and a very very very good big man who has the potential to be the best player in the league (Blake Griffin). Deandre Jordan is a nice addition too.
If the Clippers got Paul -
They would have the best PG in the game. In 2-3 years, it’s quite likely Blake will be the best PF in the game. They have Gordon, who’s a very good (maybe top 10) two-guard. And they would have a young, athletic, shot-blocking center with upside.
How do you look at that team and say, “alley oops don’t win games.”
Assuming they could keep the roster together, who would have a better core looking ahead for the next five years?
Because Paul is one of the 5 best players in the league and arguably top 3.
The Hornets were good last year with Paul even though they had a terrible roster.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Don't forget
They also signed NBA champion Caron Butler! What could go wrong?
by RACE!! on Dec 12, 2011 9:50 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
There is absolutely no way CP3 gets traded.
Mark my words. Stern and the NBA cannot afford to let a trade to another team go through. The fallout with owners and the media would be catastrophic.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Jerry West in the front office, Bob Myers in the front office, all that means nothing when your team is located in the Bay Area. Jeremy Tyler please save us.
other than winning
I don’t see anything worse about the bay area than BOS, Texas teams, and even CHI
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
It's not about clubs
it’s about marketing opprportinities…
What Lacob and Guber and Myers need to work on is establishing that they can make their star players marketable nationally, starting with Curry
Stars want to go to teams that they know will enable them to make money outside of basketball. It’s all about money for these guys, not winning or clubs or anything else.
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
by Evanz on Dec 11, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
No it's all about the clubs
Lacob needs to become a pimp, buy a lot of clubs, and all the players will be sure to flock to “party central”
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
As much as it blows to hear this
Monta is far more marketable than curry to the NBA consumer fanbase
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
by j-spliff415 on Dec 11, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
with all due respect
you couldn’t be more wrong. it’s all about clubs and party life for these guys. At least it is for the players we would want to attract.
I wish I never had to sleep.
if it were about party life
New Orleans would be one of the hottest free agent destinations
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
Your wrong, New Orleans does not have alot of hiphop clubs and the 1’s they do have you wouldnt want to attend if your a athlete. Its 1 of the most dangerous cities in America. New Orleans is a party town for white tourists. Not those of the NBA demographic.
Its 1 of the most dangerous cities in America.
Oh, so it’s not all about clubs. It’s about other things.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Everybody who has family in N.O knows that its not safe to go clubbing there. Lil Wayne dont even do it and he got hella security. It is about clubs, LA’s clubs are safe and have the baddest broads on the planet in them, thats why all the players are there in the offseason. Same goes for Miami and Atlanta. Believe what you want tho.
Oh, so it’s not about overall danger, it’s just about danger at clubs.
I don’t get what you’re saying. I didn’t contest that NO was dangerous, yet that is pretty much all you argued.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe they don’t want to come to Oakland because it’s one of the most dangerous cities in America, or at least it has that reputations.
Who cares about clubs when you fear getting shot?
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
you're getting silly
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
I know
but it’s really silly to think that’s all these guys care about
If that were true, just as many would sign with the Clippers as Lakers
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
I'm sick of our "big men" not being able to finish around the rim
Get Jordan please.
Shut up, just shut up. You had me at "cure for Cohan".
I could care less
about Jordans horrid offensive game, since the other 4 roster spots are all point scorers. Lee will need to step up his inside game (asking a lot i know) but with Jordan next to him for defensive help i think it could pan out. $10 mil a season is a bit much for unproven talent, but all in all its a risk i’m willing to take
keep em both.
good thing i didnt set my self up for dissapointment
Oh wait, I’m a Warriors fan… Nevermind……
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 12:21 PM PST reply actions
Looks like Houston is getting Marc Gasol
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Houston’s close to signing Marc Gasol to max-contract offer sheet, working a sign-and-trade with Memphis to secure him, league sources say.
"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire
Nene?
Thought he was practically in red?
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
by j-spliff415 on Dec 11, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
So much for spend all these money on the front office personnel.
We got…. 3 unheard players that even Cohan can do better than what Lacob did this year.
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 11, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Sometimes NOT getting a player (for the wrong amount of money) is the sign of the front office doing things right.
A lot of people on this board are freaking out. Every free agent has multiple suitors. Any one free agent choosing not to sign here doesn’t mean anything.
West To Indi
He’ll teach Hibbert some nasty post moves. And he’s taking passes from Chris Paul Jr. He’ll do well there. Good move by Bird
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
He’ll teach Hibbert some nasty post moves.
Yeah, like the 17ft jumper. ;)
by olympicmike on Dec 11, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
hey, Ajinca already can do that and he is 7'2". Let's sign him!!!
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 11, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I love Ajinca
Whats he get, like 4 rebounds per 36?
So glamorous. Rebounding is for cretins.
I'd trade Lee for him right now
Mostly for contractual reasons
Revision
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Rockets are working to sign Marc Gasol to a 4 year, $55M offer sheet, sources tell Y! Memphis would have 3 days to match, or lose him.
Memphis is probably inclined to match the sheet, but if not, they can work a sign-and-trade with Rockets to get something for Gasol.
"Weakness on both sides is, as we know, the motto of all quarrels." -Voltaire
at least we can get Sam Dalembert!!
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Its either him or Biedrins
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
pretty sure we can't get anyone other than D-League player so I guess we are keeping Beans
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 11, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
The Deandre deal is 4 years 40 mill
can we make a bigger deal than that?
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Nope
not without using the amnesty on Biedrins.
by olympicmike on Dec 11, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
So is amnestying Biedrins totally out of the picture?
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
you certainly don't do that to give a better deal to Jordan...
…. Memphis is gonna match for Gasol….
by warriorsablaze on Dec 11, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
So is amnestying Biedrins totally out of the picture?
Basically. I think the only circumstances they would have used the amnesty on Andris was if they had a top unrestricted FA ready to sign, or in order to clear space for a blockbuster trade bringing back a great player.
As it stands, you can’t let Biedrins walk just to make an offer on a restricted free agent that will likely be matched. Too much to lose.
That said, the amnesty is valuable, and I hope they don’t waste it on Bell just to sign Jordan to this offer sheet. It may really come in handy next year.
by olympicmike on Dec 11, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
If we amnesty someone next year, what are the limitations? Only people on the team right now can be amnestied by us, or anyone with a old-cba deall>
Yeah, only for guys currently under contract with us
We would essentially be saving it for biedrens or maybe lee (I doubt it)
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 11, 2011 1:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
sign and trade, YES. But I don't see it coming.
I would be happy if we can sign Ajinca and Yi as our backup PF and Center.
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 11, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Never heard of the first guy you mentioned lol
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/alexis_ajinca/index.html
At least better than the three players we recently signed,.. god knows what their name are…
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 11, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
he's really big...
Why not…… he might turn out to be a nice back up
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Yi is playing in china this season and he can’t play defense
by RACE!! on Dec 12, 2011 9:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Trade Curry for Andrew Bogut and Brandon Jennings?
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 12:57 PM PST reply actions
Updated the article above...
It looks like the W’s were able to find another $2mil to put into the offer. Offer sheet still not a done deal.
how long can they wait
The amnesty period isn’t going to last for too long
Well...
the new regime is showing us one thing: they’re not afraid to spend.
But if they’re upping the offer in response to reports that Clips will match, will $2 million really stop the Clips from matching?
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
Jerry West quote on Jordan
He’s a young, active player, probably coming into his own. Those are the kinds of players that people are willing to take chances on in terms of paying a lot of money for. At the end of the day you have to find out what’s in store for anyone. I’m just really not sure about him.
Hmm...
I’d love to hear the tone in his voice when he said “I’m just really not sure about him.” In context you could take that a couple different ways.
re West
couple things – maybe nothing, maybe something
West did not sound very high on Jordan, he completely dodged the last question re Monta, and he keeps talking about the Warriors as “they”
~ an original fan of the SF Warriors
It's official, we just wasted our amnesty
Watch Bell get a year in jail now.
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Golden State has used its amnesty waiver on Charlie Bell, team says.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
Huge bummer if...
Clippers match the offer, and Andris has another disappointing year. Otherwise, it probably won’t come back to haunt them.
Well, if Bell gets significant jail time
Then we could’ve just voided him instead.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 11, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
maybe...
but that doesn’t play into their timetable for signing Jordan, and that’s the only reason they are using the amnesty now.
Whatever happens
There is absolutely no benefit to using the amnesty on Bell right now if you don’t turn that room into an offer immediately.
crap
crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap crap
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
by Evanz on Dec 11, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 9 recs
I think
are offer will be a little more now maybe 44 45 mill over 4 years? that is a lot to match.!
Marc Stein tweeted
it’s around 4 years, $42 Million
Charlie Bell was amnestied as a precursor to the 4 years/$42 M offer sheet we’ve been hearing about.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
any more good news today?
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
4 years 42 million.......... that's still not enough!!!
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 3:12 PM PST reply actions
I figured it out!
1) Kidnap Jordan
2) Stockholm syndrome his a__!
3) Use Jersey Shore Nickname Generator to create new identity.
4) sign undrafted rookie Danny Mortadella to training camp on non-guaranteed contract.
YA BUDDY!
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
His krafty nickname:
Da Big Cheese!
by RACE!! on Dec 12, 2011 10:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Also hearing that Houston Rockets have claimed Jeremy Lin off waivers. Lin recently released by Golden State
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
good for him
sad for me :C
Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, outside of soccer.
yeah, Atlanta doesn't
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
On the use of the amnesty...
It certainly seems like a waste to use it on Bell when he is a small expiring contract, but was the amnesty as valuable as we thought it was for this team? They clearly never considered using it on Lee. The only other somewhat realistic candidate was Andris, and they couldn’t use it on him with the current state of the roster, unless they knew they had a deal in place to upgrade the center spot. With Jordan being restricted, that means a pretty huge gamble.
So like I said above, the only real bummer would be if we lose out on Jordan (and any other free agents we try for after him), and Andris has another disappointing season. If that’s the case we would have almost certainly used it on him next offseason to help clear cap space. At least that’s the way it looks to me at the moment.
Still plenty of potential downside, but the amnesty was never going to save this franchise. It would have been most useful as part of a total rebuild, and that was never going to happen.
by olympicmike on Dec 11, 2011 3:28 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It's premature.
And I bet everyone in the front office is going to want it back when 97 year old David Lee is pulling in $30M to do his best Matt Geiger impression.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 11, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
To clarify
Do we have an amesty each year? Or just one for the entire length of the CBA? I’ve read it both ways.
We only have one amnesty
and it must be used before the start of this season
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
From what I understood...
…. teams had until the 16th use it for this season, but could keep it for future off-seasons… obviously, that’s irrelevant for us at this point.
by warriorsablaze on Dec 11, 2011 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
I would've thought giving Bell the boot would've made a better offer to Deandre Jordan.
Only 2 extra million?? Sam Dalembert please!!
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 3:28 PM PST reply actions
source?
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
That's how it's been reported the whole time.
They didn’t have the capspace before to make that previous deal.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Hollinger said
By his calculations with Bell gone and us pulling the QO on Williams and Lin gone we can go 4 years 43 million. LOL. like others I fail to see why getting rid of Bell to clear 2 extra million to likely get matched by Clips.
Jordan signed qualifying offer of 4 years, $43 Mil
https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/146008992664129537
In about 2 hours we're gonna be looking for another C.......
Sam Dalembert did say he was interested in us….
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
They still are gonna match it though
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
43 MIL!!!!! will they match?
John Hollinger: By my math Warriors can offer DeAndre Jordan $43 million offer sheet now that QO to Reggie Wiliams was resicnded
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gGvlt6qn
Yeah you may be right
I think we will pull him away somehow, we seem determined to get him
RIP Al Davis
but
blake griffen is his bff IDK if they wanna piss him off.
Bingo
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 11, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Jerry West on DJ
"He’s a young, active player who is probably coming into his own," West said. "Those are the kinds of players who people are willing to take chances on in terms of paying a lot of money. At the end of the day, you have to find out what’s in store for anyone. I’m just not really sure about him."
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
!
link?
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
I'm glad everyone is obviously on the same page in the FO
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
I don't really take it that way....
… it’s a very reasonable answer to the question, and I doubt anyone in the FO feels differently about where DJ is at… though obviously some are more inclined to take the risk.
I see the Clips matching anyway, depending on how the CP3 situation pans out.
by warriorsablaze on Dec 11, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
If the Clippers match this will be a huge loss.
The amnesty might have been more valuable than Jordan.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
I haven't seen that many hedges since Edward Scissorhands
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
What a ringing endorsement. This is my least favorite offseason ever. Good thing we’re capped out with escalating deals. Salary cap is shrinking significantly in 2 seasons. Better make sure we can never draft a top player!
by Uwe Blog on Dec 12, 2011 12:06 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
All of DJ's 500+ points were all
Inside the paint.
I’m really starting to not like this guy particularly….
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
by j-spliff415 on Dec 11, 2011 3:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
but he blocks shots
and umm.. oh, he’s athletic. hmmm, high potential? let’s give him $43 million dollars.
dont forget tall
that seems to be the main selling point for warriors fans
he plays center
i don’t have the desire to see my center anywhere but the paint. we have enough perimiter guys
not a reason to spend 11.5 mil a year
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
by j-spliff415 on Dec 11, 2011 4:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
How many perimeter guys do we have who are worth playing? We know we have 3ish. Maybe Klay.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
How do you feel about seeing him on the bench? He doesn’t play starter minutes.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 12, 2011 12:07 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I wonder how many points outside the paint..
..Wilt Chamberlin had?
by warriorsablaze on Dec 11, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Lots. Wilt had a variety of post moves, including a fadeaway jumper. Wilt was crazy skilled.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
the difference also was
That Wilk created His own space and offense.
DJ fed off of Griffin’s creation of space and misses for put backs (Gordon didn’t miss much)
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
by j-spliff415 on Dec 11, 2011 4:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
My goodness, can’t believe you just compared deandre Jordan with wilt chamberlain…
by JustSomeName on Dec 12, 2011 1:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Could be not as good on Offense as expected but..
He can do the most valuables things you want in a Big Man and with Beidrins and Udoh improving we would have a nice lil core of Centers.We’ll probably have to keep Ubiles(promising Pan-AM Games Champ) and Chris Wright(Youtube him) b/c we spent so much
by Garrett Flippin on Dec 11, 2011 4:06 PM PST reply actions
using the amnesty on bell is so warriors. the safe move. the non-bold move. pisses me off to no end
however, unlike many others, i would not mind having jordan on this team mostly because of his age. big men often take longer to develop, and he could develop into something special. obviously it’s a risk and not a sure thing, but it’s an anti-warriors move which almost means i have to like it by default
Missing all the targeted free agents and signing the next most expensive guy on the list is very much a Warriors move.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 12, 2011 12:09 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Tebow for
MVP
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
by j-spliff415 on Dec 11, 2011 4:31 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Anyone else read the title..
And just think “what a big bunch of fail”….
http://www.youtube.com/user/HANDSOMElifeOFswing - Cal Football Highlights+ More Bay area sports
by 4Ever Golden on Dec 11, 2011 4:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
No, but that’s only because I don’t talk like that. I agree with the general sentiment, though. This sucks.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
The reverend preaches the truth. I hope Sterling matches.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 11, 2011 5:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I guess the management see something in DJ. Teach him some good post up moves and he can be good… like a poor man’s dwight?? Averaging maybe 10/11/2 pts/reb/blks? He does make the ball go far with shot blocks.
I personally don’t like $10mil per year but I trust our NEW management see some potential in him to be a very decent player. He is still young.
by Slapa d bass man on Dec 11, 2011 4:37 PM PST reply actions
Hahahha, nice screen name!
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 11, 2011 6:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
From Chris Brousard via Twitter
“CP looking to join Clippers since NYK and Lakers look unlikely. Clips and Hornets talking trade.”
http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/146025698786689024
This would add to the theory that keeping Jordan would help net Chris Paul
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
Sounds like the Hornets are trying to get a ton for him.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Clips also said they would part with Gordon or Minn's 1st if Paul takes his player option.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 11, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
clips
looks like the clippers are going to do the trade for cp3
I don’t think that’s what it looks like at all. Hornets trying to get a lot for him.
A trade could happen, but I’d be surprised if its current form goes through.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Soooooo
It looks like we are stuck as a mediocre team. And apparently cap space means nothing to us because we amnestied an expiring contract, for which we most likely will have to pay the full amount anyways because nobody will pick him up
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Does anybody know about our draft picks this year?
Is this the year Marcus William’s ghost comes back to haunt us??
Got love for the WCC. Go Lions!
It goes to Utah unless it’s top 7.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 11, 2011 5:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
'Tis the season to tank
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
the way the season is shaping up
i can’t see it being that unrealistic.
we literally have no bench
Got love for the WCC. Go Lions!
by SnakesOnAPlane on Dec 11, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
Monta playing 40+ minutes again
Man we are really making him earn that contract
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
Udoh will end up playing a lot and he will save our ass
believe it
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
LOL
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
:(
I have a sad face
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
just watch
he’s our Mbah Moute or Chuck Hayes
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
I would have prefered that.
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 11, 2011 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
mbah a moute
off the bench would have been great
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
Great. We get a whole season of homers saying the only reason we’re not good is the short training camp. Or injuries, which we really didn’t have too many of last year. This roster +DJ still sucks.
Here’s to .500!!!
by Uwe Blog on Dec 11, 2011 5:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Update on Reggie Williams:
“Free agent #ReggieWilliams was in for visit w/ #bobcats today.”
http://twitter.com/Bobcats/status/145957628726620160
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
I really do not get why we released Reggie
So all of our backups are rookies now? Except Lou Amundson, but he sucks.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
they did it because in order to get the extra last bit of cap space for the deandre offer
they needed to rescind the qualifying offer so it comes off our cap figure. personally i think this is dumb.
It's not even that much extra money. Three extra million over four years is chump change.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
It’s not even that much extra money. Three extra million over four years is chump change.
Well, Williams cap hold was 884,000. That mean they could offer him that much more the first year, and when you factor in yearly raises it could have been almost $4mil extra over the life of the contract. Certainly not chump change.
I am saying that it would not make a difference
in whether or not the Clippers match the contract.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
Not that I disagree with you...
…but looking at the poll above (61% said they think offering Jordan 4/40 was a “good decision”) one could certainly argue that the team is showing a bit of a culture shift in going after a coveted player…
The new regime is certainly not risk averse…
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
Not to argue, but
I think there is a difference between “risky” and “silly.” Signing DeAndre Jordan is risky, but you can defend it. Rescinding a qualifying offer to a good bench player simply to add a few million to a deal is silly.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm...
not if that is what got the deal done, or pushed it to where the Clips wouldn’t match.
I’m not a huge fan of going after Jordan, but I don’t see how people can be ok with going after him, but not ok with doing what it takes to get the deal done…
by olympicmike on Dec 11, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't want Jordan either
but my point, like my post above, was that losing a pretty good bench player is worse than slightly increasing your chances that the Clippers don’t match the offer sheet.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
It's also possible they just didn't intend to re-sign him anyway...
…which, to address your point about it being silly to release him for Jordan, would be the best PR spin for this…
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
Ouch. Then that really hurts.
I thought Reggie was a pretty good bench player, and would’ve liked to see him play for a few more years here. He was also one of the only bright spots when we were the “D-League All-Stars.”
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Well that's totally speculation on my part
But they haven’t done a whole lot to indicate that Williams was a priority and, as we discussed back on the first day after the lockout, he’s a scorer on a team that doesn’t necessarily need scorers, a suspect defender on a team with a stated focus on defense.
So I agree with your sentiment, but it wouldn’t be shocking if he was just not in their plans to begin with and the Jordan opportunity just forced the issue.
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
The way you explain it
rescinding the qualifying offer seems more reasonable. But I still don’t like it – we could have at least tried to parlay Reggie into something.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't amnesty Bell, get rid of Lin and Reggie just to get Jordan.
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 11, 2011 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
Totally fair...
I wouldn’t have either, but once the writing was on the wall that they were pushing for a $10mil+ big man (whether Jordan should be one is debatable) it should have been pretty clear that this is what was going to happen. Without using the amnesty on Beans they were going to have to scrape every available penny together.
I, like you, would have preferred picking up Hayes and Mbah a Moute, or some other more reasonably priced defensive wing. That would have been the more conservative path, especially if you look at the advanced #s, but part of me can respect them taking a big risk on Jordan. I haven’t been too impressed with the way things have gone down so far, but I always like a gamble. :)
i voted that it was a good move because it pushes the clips cap room a little harder
im glad they matched !
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Dec 11, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions
THey matched already??!?!?!
where did you get this!?!?!?!
Since last year
did you not watch the games?
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
He looked okay as a bench player on the Suns
but it turns out it was a product of their high speed on offense
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
lots of players look good playing with steve nash
it’s more of a statement of how good nash is than anything else
He also sucked when he played
I watched the games, he did not suck because he was injured, he sucked because was a bad player
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Still
I think that if Curry does his best Steve Nash impersonation, Amundson could actually be serviceable. He’s basically an energy guy who needs everything created for him.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
god ...such an awful move...
what a waste of a great asset …. 4 million expiring contract!!?!?!?!?!? great …awesome/..jesus
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Dec 11, 2011 5:13 PM PST reply actions
What's the flippin plan?
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.
From Marcus Thompson:
Jerry West…"I think by Wednesday, we’ll know where things are. Then you go to Plan B."
Any ideas about what Plan B should be?
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
Marquis Daniels!
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
Signed with Celtics.
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 11, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
we should just sign tim tebow
he’s obviously the second coming of jesus
TANK
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
OM, help me out here
Not tendering the QO to Reggie means there’s zero chance of his returning?
That would kinda suck.
By my count, since ‘08, that would make Reggie the sixth wing player we’ve let walk or traded away who’s probably a more effective player than the post-’08 version of Monta: JRich, Dunleavy, SJax, Morrow, Maggette, Reggie. Heck, throw in Azubuike, who was also more effective than Monta before he blew out his knee.
Bravo, Mullin and Riley.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 11, 2011 5:43 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
"Not tendering the QO to Reggie means there’s zero chance of his returning?"
I think it just means that we gave up our right to match offers.
But someone can correct me if I’m wrong on that.
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
No that is correct
He can sign with any team now. He is a free agent.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks, Nate. I hope that’s the case. I mean, to some degree Klay may make Reggie superfluous, but that’s contingent on Klay being a legit NBA scorer, which at this point is still no guarantee. And if we ever get our act together and trade Monta for a full-sized beastly perimeter defender (Iguodala or equiv.), I’d love to see Klay and Reggie as twin gunners.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 11, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Klay is the backup 2 guard. Reggie was no longer needed on this roster unless it was to get us a 2nd round pick.
Why?
Is Klay better than Reggie?
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 11, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
GREAT?
Do you understand how hyperbolic your statements are?
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 11, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
Call it what you want, just like he found Reggie, A-Mo, and CJ. He can find another Reggie in the D-League.
You constantly say those players are nothing...
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 11, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
When did I say those players were nothing? Schlenk has found the best players to ever come out of the D-League, he and Riley drafted the team’s franchise player. He is the most underated talent evaluator in the league. When we traded Azubuike, he was nothing because he is finished as a player. Before his injury he was very very much something.
When the players are on the warriors you praise them.
Then when we get rid of them they’re basically nothing. You sound like Fitz.
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 12, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
This is the same guy who drafted Udoh over Monroe.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
I personally don’t mind that. If Udoh had rebounded just a little better last season, he would have been something to be excited about thanks to his tremendous shot blocking. It’s not like our talent scouts need to be psychic to be good. Monroe is nothing special and the Pistons were not winners with him. In fact, they sucked.
I'm the soul brotha' like no other!
The Pistons sucked overall
Monroe was their bright spot. They did not lose due to Monroe.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
only the warriors would use a once in a CBA amnesty on a 4 mil expiring... I feel so let down
This offseason has sucked so far what I’ve noticed is
-Were more then likely not getting DJ.
-Can’t amnesty anyone with a huge contract if they suck down the road(lee, beans) or if we make a bad signing, or even DJ if he sucks and we get him
- Lose out on Reggie williams
- Lose the trust of Curry with all the trade rumors
http://www.youtube.com/user/HANDSOMElifeOFswing - Cal Football Highlights+ More Bay area sports
we can only amnesty people who were on this team before the new cba
So we couldn’t amnesty DJ or any bad trades.
Ah forgot, still rather have it incase Lee sucks he contract is terrible
http://www.youtube.com/user/HANDSOMElifeOFswing - Cal Football Highlights+ More Bay area sports
by 4Ever Golden on Dec 11, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
So even if DeAndre signs with the Clippers, our amnesty still has to be on Charlie Bell?
That’s final? Someone explain this to me.
WHAT!??!?!?!?!?!?!
You can forget about Nene...
… we used our amnesty on Bell… would have to dump Beans to get cap room for Nene.
by warriorsablaze on Dec 11, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
Could this be...
Just a flyer here – but what if signing DeAndre Jordan is the first step in acquiring Dwight Howard????
Think about it: if Biedrins returns to form, then the W’s have two Centers that Orlando could choose from that will be locked in for 3 to 4 years at less than they’re paying Howard.
W’s could send Ellis and Jordan (Biedrins) for Howard (and poss J-rich). Orlando gets youth and value for Howard C and G. Warriors get Howard with no extension signed, but one year to get him to like it here with Curry.
Worst case: Howard walks and the W’s have 16M of cap room for next season, and no long term contract of Biedrins/Ellis.
I think the new CBA allows for a team to trade a newly required asset, compared to years past…
wow, if you’re right I’m buying you drinks! a whole lot of em! in fact, I’d buy them for all of GSoM
~ an original fan of the SF Warriors
Hmm…SBN needs a “bookmark comment” feature for moments like this… ;)
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
by Nate Parham on Dec 11, 2011 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
(you know you can bookmark the timestamp on his post?)
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
BTW
I prefer DJ to Nene, even at the same price. Less injury prone, higher upside.
Nene is as good as he’ll ever be. Which is solid but not great.
If we get a center
Do we trade beans to Houston if the don’t get NeNe (Gasol got mached) for picks?
Imagine the albatross offense.
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 11, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
lol. ok ok J-Logic.
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 11, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
I hope he doesn't match
this season depends on improved defense and Curry’s ability to be a leading point guard and initiate offense
i'm telling you all...
this Deandre Jordan will work out. Dude’s sick.
I’d much rather have him than Chandler. Too injury prone. Jordan’s solid.
"I'll have to look at the tape" - mike singletary
Clippers will most likely match
Especially if they trade Kaman in a CP3 deal.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
This feels a lot like previous offseasons
Warriors seems like they will make some big moves, and in the morning, we’re holding David Lee’s overpriced contract and wondering what happened last night.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Seems like Jordan is a much more expensive version of Jeremy Tyler
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
I wish Tyler could be half as good as Jordan
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
he probably already is
Jorean is not a good basketball player
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
I'm not saying Jordan is good
I’m saying that Tyler failed to dominate a weak second division Japanese basketball league
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
That's what I'm thining
People are acting as if Jordan is the 2nd coming of Howard. He’s a really big athletic dude who can block shots and throw down like he’s 6’6". He doesn’t really possess many NBA “skills” outside of his athleticism. I think Tyler can be near Jordan in production with a little more skill. Tyler may not become a skilled NBA player, but he will be able to block shots and dunk some alley-oops and putbacks.
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.
but then again
who else are we gonna put at center?
Biendrins coming back to form is a HUGE if, and udoh is clearly not capable of rebounding at an nba level.
if we don’t go after him we’re gonna be in for a looooong season.
Got love for the WCC. Go Lions!
by SnakesOnAPlane on Dec 11, 2011 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure...
… nobody anywhere has said anything like Jordan is the 2nd coming of Howard. Everybody likes his athleticism, size, and upside…. but also know that he has no post game and has a range of 1 foot.
by warriorsablaze on Dec 11, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
IF we somehow did get him...
When you compare $10 million for Deandre vs. $11 million for Biedrins….it’s not so bad. At least Deandre can actually rebound and play defense.
thats pretty close
and he said “anything like Jordan is the 2nd coming of Howard.”
Anybody disagree’s that he’s a poor man’s DH? At his age and with his athleticism he can become a top 5 C if he can stay on the floor.
He's halfway to being a homeless man's D12.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 12, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Be PC, please.
“A Citizen of Leisure’s” D12. ;-P
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 12, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I wish we had better basketball players on this team
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
confirmed they already matched.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
that doesn't really confirm that they've matched
but i do believe they will
Broderick Turner.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
You're a Clips fan.... What do you think of this deal??
You guys really overpayed for someone who only dunks and blocks shots
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think DeAndre has proven anything yet.
He’s still raw, does a lot of bonehead things (at least one 3 second violation per game), terrible at FTs and still falls for “veteran moves.”
However, he’s athletic, relatively injury free, eager, trains hard, good locker room guy and has a ton of potential.
Honestly as a person I like the guy, but if it was a pure basketball decision, I think $8M x 4 years would have been the correct price.
I’m not angry about it, but I’m not overjoyed either.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
What I'm more concerned about is this CP3 trade...
If the rumors are true, the Clippers are giving away a lot (for two guaranteed years CP3)…
Eric Gordon, Minnesota Pick, Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe and another 1st…
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
I wouldn't be too worried if I was you
The Clippers are in full power on this deal, and they would be foolish to deal Gordon under any circumstances. Minny pick, Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe for CP3 and Okafor or Ariza….. Seems fair to both teams right??
The Bay is the place to be!!
by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 11, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
I'd do that.
Im just hoping Gordon is not included
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
What I’ve been seeing is that it’s probably not going to be Gordon and the Minnesota pick.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Has to be one or the other...
… or no way this deal gets through.
by warriorsablaze on Dec 11, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
What are the Warriors doing??
Sure they make this offer, but I don’t see the Clippers not matching the offer. So what happens after we don’t get him? Are we seriously going to send the same lineup out there as last year? Biedrins at $10 mil+ and we’re not using the amnesty on this joker? I can tell you for with 100% certainty I won’t be watching this team this season if we send out this roster. Go Bears! See if Cal can’t win the Pac-12 because that’s the only basketball I’ll be following….
Basically made the Clippers overpay for him.
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
by Newton Pham on Dec 11, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
yea but you'll be over the cap for years to come
it’s not goingto affect who you can and can’t sign
"So what happens after we don't get him?"
Uwe Blog exhales a sigh of relief.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 12, 2011 11:23 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
"So what happens after we don't get him?"
What I hope: We stop panicking, attempt to reclaim our sanity, and make sounder basketball decisions.
What I think actually happens: We resort to desperation move #4: max contract to Dalembert.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 12, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
This is probably exactly what happens.
And, why do I get the feeling that you’re promoting it?
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 12, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't want many Clippers games, but I just saw him on youtube and
DJ isn’t bad at all. I’m sure one of you (Evanz?) is going to break down his numbers at some point. I’m curious. (Or maybe you’ve done that already. I’ll check)
how many bigs can do this?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4nOVqSD04Y
Proud member of Club FTR. falconPUNCH! for president!
by Newton Pham on Dec 11, 2011 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Jeremy Tyler
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He'll knock you 'round and upside down
And laugh when he's conquered and won.
by duballers23 on Dec 11, 2011 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
_______________________________________________________________
The City: Is A Grown Man NBA Blog
Follow @thecity2
Like thecity2 on Facebook
Read The City Daily newspaper
Chuck Hayes and Jeff Foster!!
Yes, I’m still crying over that. Could have had them both for less than one DeAndre Jordan.
GSOM Faithful: “But but but Chuck Hayes isn’t tall enough!!! And and and Jeff Foster doesn’t have enough melanin!! And neither of them dunks good and stuff or blocks shots into the stands!!”
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 12, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll admit it: given equal price tags, I’d probably take DeAndre Jordan over a combo-pack of Hayes and Jeff Foster.
I’m not sure whether that’s out of a fetish for size / youth / athleticism / melanin, or just skepticism about RAPM results in small sample sizes. Am I actually supposed to want Brian Cardinal and VladRad more than DJ?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Dec 12, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
This is getting WAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION!!!
Deandre Jordan will stay a Clipper and we all know that!!
I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 12, 2011 11:26 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
maybe we should have offered morelike 5 yrs at 11 million?
by sports with steve on Dec 12, 2011 3:36 PM PST reply actions
clippers look good on paper and saying NO to chris paul!
LA does not want chris paul,lol. the clippers signed jordan, pick up billups from waviers was a better way to go then give away 3 players and a 1st round draft pick. we sign k brown for 1 year at 7 million
by sports with steve on Dec 13, 2011 6:02 PM PST reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
"UNSTOPPABLE BABY!"
Golden State Warriors rookie Marc Jackson to the Mavericks' bench, after hitting a lay-up during a 29-point loss (2000)
NBA Playoffs Content Module
Related FanPosts on Golden State Of Mind
Related FanShots on Golden State Of Mind
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
Featured Stories
Most Commented
In Association With
Ball Don't Lie - NBA - Yahoo! Sport
- C-a-C: This is probably as close to LeBron James working with John Waters as we’ll ever get
- Dwyane Wade’s hot pink pants: The kind of thing you can get away with when you drop 41
- Lamar Odom to New York? Dwight Howard on the move? For now, it’s all talk
- David West hilariously denies each and every one of his young fans a high-five (VIDEO)
- Behind the Box Score, where the Miami Heat are moving on to the conference finals
