Can Stephen Curry make the All Star team?
A few months ago, the Warriors sent out a "contract" to fans promising three things in 2012: a playoff appearance, an All-Star appearance by at least one Warrior, and that the club would win 25 games at home. Since it turns out the Warriors' big free-agent acquisition was Kwame Brown (causing an Andris Biedrins or Kwame Brown? debate), now seems like the right time to talk about something else, and focus on whether these three promises can be kept. The focus of this post will be on whether a Warrior can make the All-Star team.
If you do not want to read all this you can skip to "The Verdict".
First off, there are four assumptions made in this post:
- Kobe Bryant and Chris Paul will get voted in.
- Russell Westbrook will get picked as an All-Star by the coaches.
- Curry is the only Warrior with a chance to make the All-Star team
- Only four to five guards will make the All-Star roster. (as a reminder of how reserve candidates are chosen, coaches vote for two forwards, two guards, one center, and two other players)
An explanation for the first three assumptions: Kobe and Paul are the two most prominent guards in the Western Conference, so fans will vote them in. Westbrook is a young dominant point guard and will get chosen by the coaches as long as he averages the same stats this year as last year. For the Warriors, Curry is the only one with a chance to make it because he can both pass and shoot. Monta cannot make it because he only scores, and none of our forwards or centers has a chance.
So, assuming these three things, it leaves one or two spots on the All-Star roster (thanks to how ridiculously stacked the forward spot is) for guards. Thankfully, Deron Williams was traded to the Nets, or else he would have occupied another spot on the All-Star roster. Now, let us look at the guards who have a chance to make the All-Star roster:
First, we will first compare their per-36 stats from last season (from Basketball Reference).
| Player | Season | Age | G | GS | MP | FG | FGA | FG% | 3P | 3PA | 3P% | FT | FTA | FT% | ORB | DRB | TRB | AST | STL | BLK | TOV | PF | PTS | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stephen Curry | 2010-11 | 22 | 74 | 74 | 2489 | 7.3 | 15.2 | .480 | 2.2 | 4.9 | .442 | 3.1 | 3.3 | .934 | 0.8 | 3.4 | 4.1 | 6.2 | 1.6 | 0.3 | 3.3 | 3.4 | 19.9 | |
| Manu Ginobili | 2010-11 | 33 | 80 | 79 | 2426 | 6.5 | 15.1 | .433 | 2.3 | 6.5 | .349 | 5.3 | 6.1 | .871 | 0.6 | 3.8 | 4.4 | 5.8 | 1.8 | 0.4 | 2.6 | 2.4 | 20.7 | |
| Eric Gordon | 2010-11 | 22 | 56 | 56 | 2112 | 7.3 | 16.2 | .450 | 1.8 | 5.0 | .364 | 4.9 | 5.9 | .825 | 0.8 | 2.0 | 2.8 | 4.2 | 1.2 | 0.3 | 2.6 | 2.0 | 21.3 | |
| Ty Lawson | 2010-11 | 23 | 80 | 31 | 2103 | 5.9 | 11.8 | .503 | 1.2 | 2.9 | .404 | 2.9 | 3.9 | .764 | 1.1 | 2.4 | 3.6 | 6.5 | 1.4 | 0.1 | 2.3 | 2.3 | 16.0 | |
| Kevin Martin | 2010-11 | 27 | 80 | 80 | 2603 | 7.6 | 17.5 | .436 | 2.4 | 6.3 | .383 | 8.2 | 9.3 | .888 | 0.4 | 3.2 | 3.6 | 2.7 | 1.1 | 0.2 | 2.5 | 2.1 | 25.9 | |
| Steve Nash | 2010-11 | 36 | 75 | 75 | 2497 | 5.8 | 11.7 | .492 | 1.2 | 3.0 | .395 | 3.3 | 3.6 | .912 | 0.6 | 3.2 | 3.7 | 12.3 | 0.7 | 0.1 | 3.8 | 1.3 | 15.9 |
Stephen Curry compares pretty well to these players, including Manu Ginobili, who was an All-Star last year. He shot ridiculously well from two point range for a guard. He was very good from three point range, and was money from the stripe. This was also with Monta Ellis taking a lot of possessions away from him. If Curry becomes the primary ball handler, as is expected, his stats will definitely take a sharp jump.
So, assuming that there is a slight drop-off in production for Nash and Ginobili due to age, statistically, Stephen Curry should be able to beat them. He is a better all-around player than Kevin Martin and Eric Gordon, and as long as they do not put up ridiculous scoring numbers, he should be able to beat them. Ty Lawson can expect to not shoot .500 from the field again as defenses key on him more, so Stephen Curry will probably have a better statistical season than him as well. Curry should be able to get better stats than all these players.
However, therein lies the problem. Coaches vote in the All-Star reserves. For the coaches, it is not all about stats. It is also about wins, losses, and intangibles. Coaches are biased towards veteran players, especially ones who lead their team's offense. They are also biased towards winning teams. For example, look at Kevin Love from last year. He put up ridiculous stats for the Timberwolves, but his production was discounted because the Timberwolves were a bad team. His team also did not have the visibility that Blake Griffin's Clippers enjoyed (another factor in voting).
Therefore, the real question should be: will the Warriors put up enough wins to get Curry into the All-Star game? Curry will have enough stats to be an All-Star, but will he have enough wins before the coaches vote in the All-Star reserves? Coaches vote on All-Stars two to three weeks before the game, so let's assume they vote on Februray 5th. Here are some stats for the games before February 5th:
Team Times Played LA Clippers 1 Bulls 1 Knicks 1 Sixers 1 Suns 1 Spurs 1 LA Lakers 1 Jazz 2 Heat 1 Magic 1 Bobcats 1 Pistons 1 Cavaliers 1 Nets 1 Pacers 1 Grizzlies 1 Trailblazers 1 Thunder 1 Kings 2
Back to backs:4
Back to back to backs: 0
Four games in five nights: 1
Home games: 12 (out of 21)
Games against losing teams in 2010-2011, excluding Clippers: 10 (6 of them are away games)
Games against teams .500 or better in 2010-2011, including Clippers: 11 (2 away)
According to this chart, the schedule stacks up unfavorably for the Warriors. About half of their games are against tough teams, and about half of their games are on the road. This roster will have to win games against tough teams, and win on the road, in order to get above .500. Plus, the Warriors' depth chart is terrible: the players backing up the starters are mostly rookies and unwanted players on one-year contracts. This does not spell well for the back-to-backs, especially the four games in five nights the Warriors will have to play. Even with a healthy David Lee, getting to a 12-9 record seems like a tough battle.
The Verdict
Stephen Curry will put up All-Star numbers, but the Warriors will not put up enough wins for coaches to consider him for the All-Star roster.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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I shortened this post
Originally it was longer. Also in my next post I will break down the two other promises in the contract, completely breaking down the Warriors’ schedule to see if they have a chance to get a playoff berth.
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It definitely looks like an uphill battle
If Curry is going to have any shot he needs to have the training wheels taken off and be allowed to be the primary ball handler. Hopefully Coach Jackson, as a former point guard, will finally put an end to this combo-guard backcourt the Warriors have been running.
I agree with this
It wasn’t until Monta got injured during Curry’s first season that he began to make a strong ROY push. His stats during that stretch were incredible and he seemed to gain confidence running the team.
We were let down last year by this silly combo guard backcourt as you said. In this light, it makes sense that the coaches are trying new things with Monta such as having him work the post. I think whatever it takes to make Curry the full time point guard while he is on the floor is best for the team.
by JoesBurlyCurls on Dec 16, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
this is why I'm all for trading Monta..
won’t see Curry at full strength until he his given complete reigns/stops deferring.
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Dec 16, 2011 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see why the Warriors need to trade Monta for that to happen
Just need a good coach to step up and assign guys the proper roles.
The focus of this post will be on whether a Warrior can make the All-Star team.
I like your thorough analysis but I think it really comes down to unknown factors. Can Curry stay healthy? Will Gordon put up big numbers on the Hornets because they have nothing to loose? etc. I could definitely see Binky making allstar if he was playin with Kobe, Duncan, or Lebron but here it’s harder to accomplish, everything has to go right and no margin for error.
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Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 16, 2011 11:43 AM PST reply actions
I agree
if we have an All Star it will most likely be Curry but dont count out David Lee or Andris Biedrins. If Lee ets back to playing the way he did in NY his last season and we are a solid team he may be picked. With the center position in the west, Dre and make it if he gets back to playing the way he was 3 years ago. Remember he was in consideration for the All Star team a few year ago
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They should reduce the games to 20
because of the shortened season
If anyone on the team gets in this year it will be montae monta.
he’s due for an all star appearance and i think all the coaches know that. so if the warriors have a good enough record at the break it will b
by Belinelli's the savior on Dec 16, 2011 1:37 PM PST reply actions
If the Warriors have a winning record, he can make it...
…if not, no chance unless he averages 30ppg.
by MightyMegalodon on Dec 17, 2011 1:49 PM PST reply actions
How is it that Monta does not have a chance?
This is the All-Star Game. It’s about records and stats. Not per-36 stats either. Total stats.
I recall Monta averaging a near equal amount of assists as Curry last season, and more points.
Personally, I doubt either makes it, but Monta has at least as much chance as Curry.
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by Brownie13 on Dec 19, 2011 3:28 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
agreed.
If you say Curry has a chance, then Monta has a chance too.
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by don't leave Morrow! on Dec 19, 2011 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
How is it that Monta does not have a chance?
cause it will be a coach’s choice selection not a dumb fan vote in and the coach’s will vote for all around basketball skills and IQ instead of just scoring.
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 19, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Joe Johnson
Chris Kaman
Rashard Lewis
Devin Harris
Caron Butler
Antawn Jamison
Don’t kid yourself, even when the coaches make selections it’s a lot about numbers
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nellie sucks
and no all-star game for him with all those ankle injuries.

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