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Damn
They look seriously depressed
by warriorsandgiantsfan on Dec 18, 2011 11:11 PM PST reply actions
I really feel bad for them.
Hopefully, they can find a way to make it a good experience.
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Why?
Trades happen all the time.
I personally think NBA needs to move the hornets. Seattle would be a much better market.
Why would anybody feel bad for guys that went from a non-playoff team to a playoff team? Its all about winning at the end of the day right?
They were a playoff team because of the guy who got traded though...Now the OTHER team is a playoff team
by GSWarrior1818 on Dec 19, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions
Thats up for debate. I think the Hornets got the better end of that trade without the draft pick. Call me crazy but I dont think the point guard is the most important position on the court. Even the best point guards to ever play the game needed a big to win and those that never had a good Center never got a ring. Besides Isiah, I dont recall it happening in my lifetime.
you really think jarrett jack, eric gordon, trevor ariza, carl landry, chris kaman, and emeka okafor is a playoff core?
I think they can compete and will be a .500 team. I never liked Jarrett Jack so for that reason alone I cant say their a playoff team.
So your personal disgust of a player is what makes them a playoff team or not? I don’t really understand this comment at all, especially after you just said the PG position is not that important.
Some guys are a detriment to their team. I said pg is not the most important position in the game. You would be surprised what kind of starting point guards that have rings. Dominant wings and Bigs are what wins rings in the NBA.
Lets be fair
Of the previous 15 years, how many top PG have their been? How many of them had legitimate teams?
Magic and Isiah won 7 of the 10 titles in the 80s. PG led teams can win it all.
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But back to today. Today’s breed of dominant PG’s are different from the 90s. 90s were dominated by PGs who didn’t score much, more all around players and in many cases you would say roll players. To win a title, you need atleast 1 elite player, probably a couple, and the right mix of players around them. But in end of day, you need a guy who can get you a basket whenever a game’s getting out of hand. In 90s you’d say MJ was that way. Hakeem/Duncan/Shaq were even though they were bigs, just throw them the ball and they will break a team shooting slump. Kobe/Wade too.
Today you have 5-10 pg’s in NBA who are a lock for 20+ any night they want, and player who can do same things I spoke of above. Different type of player, more all around player. Rose is a PG, but if you look at his game he reminds me a lot more of a ball dominating wing you’re thinking of. Paul and Deron have no problem taking over and carrying teams scoring when needed. Steph-o’s getting there too.
I think it has less to do with position than you think.
Principles are all similar, to win a title. You have to play good team defense, rebound the ball. You need to have more than one way to score, and you do need someone who can always bail you out, because games can get out of control. Be it a wing like Kobe, a big like Duncan or a big like Dirk. Why can’t it be a PG like Paul, Rose etc? They are not your old school PG’s who got 10-14 points but just looked to facilitate like Rondo for ex.
What im saying is you cant point to a team in the last 20 years besides the Detroit teams that has won a championship without a dominant wing or Big. I cant point to plenty of championship teams that have won without a dominant point guard.
dominant point guard.
Name a team in the last 20 years (before the major influx of new-gen pg) who had an actual dominant PG? The best one was Kidd or Stockton. Neither were scorers.
Besides, you’re ignoring my point. And you know it ;)
You tell me honestly, CP3, Rose aren’t capable of being leading figures on a title team?
No they are not. They will never win a ring without a dominant all star wing or Big. The closest little man that came close to doing it in my lifetime besides Isiah was Allen Iverson and he was on a great defensive team. Point guards can be stopped easier than dominant wings or Bigs can. So no, they cant be the lead figure on a championship team in todays NBA. Look at how the dubs were able to stop D-Rose when Chicago came here. He needs another dominant scorer in order to get jewelry.
Look at how the dubs were able to stop D-Rose when Chicago came here. He needs another dominant scorer in order to get jewelry.
We stopped Rose one game. They got to eastern conference finals with a glorified version of AI’s sixers.
Yeah he needs another scorer, but MJ needed Scottie, Shaq needed Kobe, Duncan needed Manu/Parker, and Dirk has about 7 guys who can drop 15-20 in any given game, even if their isnt a true second star (Terry’s a pretty damn good scorer though).
I never said a dominant Big/Wing wont need help. Im saying a point guard will never lead a team to a championship in todays NBA. If Rose ever gets a ring he wont be the most dominant offensive player on his team. Just what history and my own observations have suggested. Now if Rose is the second or 3rd option then he’ll get a ring.
If Rose ever gets a ring he wont be the most dominant offensive player on his team.
Yeah, i disagree here.
Rose can score like Wade and many other first option wings.
He needs himself a second option.
If they had Amare or Pau instead of Boozer, they would win it all
It's much harder to find a Chris Paul (top 5 player overall)
than a bunch of decent depth and an unprotected pick that we don’t know how valuable yet.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
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please, mate, learn some basketball history
a whole decade was dominated by a team without anything but garbage on the big man position. The most overwhelmingly superior team ever to play the game.
Because that team is headed nowhere
more than other other team in the NBA
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man if we can pick up gordon by trading monta...i totally would.
curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.
Funny as hell
so many captions you can photoshop in
MEME TIME!
And one that only us GSoMer’s will understand…
Now taking requests for other snarky captions…
by WYK on Dec 19, 2011 12:44 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
didnt Chris Kaman's girlfriend break up with him too?
probably not having the best week…Aminu looks completely out of it… EJ is the only one showing any kind of smile
that's probably the closest he's ever gotten to an actual smile
dude always looks super sad
by lameallenmark on Dec 19, 2011 1:32 AM PST up reply actions
Forreals.
He reminds me of a sad chipmunk.
by Precise Films Productions on Dec 19, 2011 2:15 AM PST up reply actions
Have you ever seen guys more depressed to go to a playoff team? They just left a non-playoff team to go to a playoff team and they look that way because of the city in which they just left is sooooo much better to live in than the city they were traded to. They still might be a playoff team this season but I think they would rather play in L.A for a non-contender than to have to live in New Orleans for half the year. Thats why you see CP3 with that kool aid smile. New Orleans is a dump.
haha
Cmon J, you and i both no, without a trade Clippers would probably be better. and without CP3 no way new orleans makes playoffs.
They already lost David West, so CP3 + Green, Ariza, Landry, Okafor was already going to struggle to make the 8 seed.
They lost mike malone too. Have you seen New Orleans roster?
Clippers on other hand. Improved all year. They started 1-13. Improved all year. Already added Chauncey and Caron. They were a lock to make playoffs.
By the way, New Orleans will have worst record in NBA- Jack, Gordon, Ariza, Kaman, Okafor. OUCH
I know, im just saying they would not have those faces if they went to a better city. However, im having second thoughts about them not being a playoff team. They are getting a starting C in Kaman, Okafor will be their 4, if they can land a backup 2 then they can be competitive. Historically people have thought that guys celebrated whenever they got traded from the Clippers which I always disagreed with. I never heard about somebody being happy to leave the clipps. Elton Brand wanted to stay, Maggette wanted to stay. Who cares if your losing if you get to live in Los Angeles and enjoy those groupies? Lamar Odom cried on the radio when he found out he was being traded to New Orleans.
They got Belinelli at backup 2 :o. Don’t think they’ll do anything though. They are bad and thin.
LA is LA dude. It’s always a prime location.
But you cannot deny, prior to Blake, they’d have ZERO shot at attracting CP3 or someone of his caliber.
Yes Magettee/Brand wanted to stay. Baron wanted to go (home). But it’s not like they had influx of free agent talent begging to play for them, as opposed to Lakers who could sign basically anyone they went, if they have the cap room.
Here’s Maggs crib btw, dont look like its worth 3 mill to me.
http://bossip.com/490593/it-was-all-good-before-the-lockout-check-out-the-3-million-crib-one-nba-baller-copped-after-locking-in-his-fifth-deal-in-ten-years12006/
I can deny that taf, I dont think Blake has anything to do with CP3’s decision to go to L.A. I keep saying this, but if you put Blake in Cleveland there is no way CP3 is going there. Blake may have a small part in it but living in Los Angeles has more to do with it in my opinion. He was only willing to go to 2 places, L.A or NY. Its not like he was willing to go run with Lamarcus Aldridge who I think is a better overall player than Blake is. He was not willing to go run with Kevin Durant in OKC, which whom I think is the best offensive player in the world. Blake is a pure beast, but he is no different than Amare in his prime and I dont recall anybody breaking down the doors to demand a trade to Phoenix.
Superstars will never force a trade to a non-desirable city. I dont care what superstar is in that city. When Kyrie Irving becomes the new CP3 in Cleveland just wait and see how hard its gonna be for him to attract free agents to come there. He’ll end up in L.A or NY eventually himself.
In 2 years he will be. By his second year he’ll be a allstar, by his 3rd year he’ll have as good as or better numbers than CP3 in all the key category’s.
Not really, I wasnt as high on John Wall as everybody else was. Irving is different because he can drive and has a great jumper. We’ll see, I have no problem admitting I was wrong if it does not happen. I think my scouting abilities are very good tho.
i'm glad you don't run our team
you’d sell the farm to try to get kyrie.
Check my history, I have never been as high on point guards as the world seems to be. Back when people was spewing madness about trading Steph for John Wall I thought it was insane. I would not give up the farm for any point guard. Now for a legit starting C everybody can be sold.
yet from your comments
you would obviously trade steph for kyrie
and if you really think he will be better than rose/paul in a couple years
it sounds like you would gladly throw in some picks as well
You don't like Kyrie?
I think he’ll be good. I don’t think he’ll be cp3/rose good.
But I could easily see him comparable to a Deron Williams. Shoots well, big, uses his body more than speed to get around.
i agree
he wil be good, but not all-pro/MVP-race level good
Thats the thing about going on the record like this, in time I will either be proven as right or a joke for making the prediction. Im well aware that I cant edit these posts once I make them. Just keep in mind that he wont have to be a miracle worker to become the best pg in the game 3 years from now.
you do realize that rose and westbrook are really young
and paul and deron aren’t going to exactly be old
It is worth noting
Kyrie is born in 92
Rose/Westbrook- 88
He’s incredibly young.
yes but J-ridah is talking about 3 years from now
acting like rose and westbrook won’t be that good anymore and it won’t take much for kyrie to be better. it’s not like westbrook and rose are going to be past their prime. they’ll be 26-27.
again, i am not arguing that kyrie won't be good
i am arguing that he won’t be the best pg in the nba
Westbrooks interesting
I think it might get worse in OKC before it gets better.
You're missing my point
CP3 would NOT go to Clippers without Blake. He’d pull the same move he was with potential move to teams he didn’t like ‘unwilling to sign an extension’
Im not missing your point, if David Lee was in LAC instead of Blake I think he would still go there. Im also saying if Blake was a Warrior CP3 still would not come here. Its all about location. With or without Blake he woulda agreed to opt in in LA.
Think about it this way, Kobe said he was only willing to go to 2 teams when he demanded a trade a few years back, the Clippers was 1 of those teams, I wonder why.
Because the Clippers had Elton Brand before his achilles tear and Corey Maggette on a modest mid-level contract. Add arguably the best shooting guard at the time to that combo and you had quite a Big 3 to work with.
Maggette would have been part of a trade to the Lakers so he wasnt gonna be there with Kobe. And Elton Brand in his prime was David Lee his last year in NY if not worse. C’mon son. Its all about lala land. It was other big men in the league he could’ve played with at the time, why not say he wanted to go to San Antonio?
And Elton Brand in his prime was David Lee his last year in NY if not worse.
yes if you don’t count defense…
Elton did a bit more, but for whatever reason commanded more respect around the league
Which matters. Players want to play with who they perceive to be stars. Right or wrong.
Maggette would have been part of a trade to the Lakers so he wasnt gonna be there with Kobe.
I’m calling shenanigans, because trading Kobe was never an option for the Lakers. As far as I know, there were never any offers made.
And Elton Brand in his prime was David Lee his last year in NY if not worse.
Only true if you completely ignore defense. And I’m amazed that you would even consider Elton Brand’s entire prime as “worse” than David Lee’s best individual season.
C’mon son. Its all about lala land. It was other big men in the league he could’ve played with at the time, why not say he wanted to go to San Antonio?
Because San Antonio had the Lakers’ number and Kobe’s competitive side wanted to stick it to them? This was a time when player/team rivalries were still heated and nasty. Kobe hated the Spurs, so why would he want to go there?
And again, nobody’s denying that LA, NY, etc. are the ideal markets to play in. But there are much, much more factors than just the market when it comes to making a decision on where one wants to go. LAC had a good thing going and were better built to compete than the Lakers, all while still in a big market. He also wouldn’t have to actually move. Why wouldn’t Kobe want to go to the Clippers at the time?
WYK, if I were to tell you that a star player demanded to be traded to play with another star player, if you had to bet your childs college fund on it, which 4 city’s would you bet on if a gun were to your head?
You don’t think Blake had ANYTHING to do with his decision? Maybe he wasn’t THE reason, but he sure as hell had to have had an influence.
He may have had a small influence, my point is that if David Lee was there instead of Blake he still would have gone. Can you honestly say that if Blake was a Warrior, CP3 would have demanded to be traded here? If Derrick Williams becomes the beast I think he will become in Minny, lets see who demands a trade there. If Derrick Favors becomes a beast in Utah, lets see who demands a trade there, if Lamarcus Aldridge continues to light it up in Portland, lets see who demands a trade there. If Deron Williams was still in Utah would DH be demanding to be traded so he can play with DH?
Yes I honestly think if Blake was in GSW he'd be ok with it
Blake’s literally one of top 10 biggest stars in NBA.
You think CP3 would have balked at OKC if they were going to accept westbrook for him?
I think CP3 would’ve balked at going to OKC. Absolutely. Both teams would be open to a trade for CP3 and Westrbook. CP3 would not agree to it. You may not wanna believe it but its the truth. He would opt out. His agency would not even allow him to opt in on a deal that would send him to a market like OKC.
I might be wrong
I’m pretty sure OKC didn’t pursue either because of money.
"new orleans is a dump"
how many times have you been?
but anyways, I can’t wait for the first clips / hornets game, I hope Eric Gordon goes H.A.M
by cam3racks on Dec 19, 2011 9:05 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
dunno why
but reminds me this :)
Kaman srsly looks like one of the band
Even if you do succeed most people wouldn't notice anyway.
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