Dalembert > Kwame
Some actual basketball-related news for a change today:
A source with knowledge of the deal said Samuel Dalembert will be paid approximately $7 million in the first season and the Rockets have a team option worth approximately $7 million in the second season that includes a $1.5 million buyout if it is declined.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/12/21/sam.dalembert/index.html#ixzz1hDiOI9IN
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/12/21/sam.dalembert/index.html
For the same price I'd so much rather have grabbed Dalembert than Kwame Brown. He's a better player in almost every single way, and Houston has a relatively cheap buyout for next year if they find something better or it doesn't work out. Why can't our front office be creative like this?
Man...just another case of our GM(s) being outfoxed by Daryl Morey yet again....
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Alot of GMs get outfoxed by Daryl Morey
Especially our GM. We are the bottom feeder.
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 21, 2011 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Daryl Morey
could probably convince Larry Riley to trade Steph for Thabeet
Is Bob Myers ready yet?
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He'll knock you 'round and upside down
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by duballers23 on Dec 21, 2011 5:18 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
warriors didnt want to give multiple years to a band aid
Kwame took one year. A center like dalembert isn’t looking to sign for one year
by Xtremelink on Dec 21, 2011 6:06 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Did you read the article?
Or even the quote for that matter?
He signed for two years, $14M with a Team Option on the 2nd year that has a $1.5M buyout. Much more flexibility for the team. If he’s great, $7M is a bargain. If he sucks, $1.5M isn’t much to get rid of him.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 21, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
an agent wont talk to certain teams without an option.
And of course I read it. Get smart someone else.
by Xtremelink on Dec 21, 2011 6:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
an agent wont talk to certain teams without an option.
And of course I read it. Get smart someone else.
by Xtremelink on Dec 21, 2011 6:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
if Brown sucks
it’s 7mil. So what’s your point?
I thought money is not an issue for Warriors, or are we still in Cohan era?
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 21, 2011 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
salary cap bro
Every mill counts.
by Xtremelink on Dec 21, 2011 6:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That’s $8.5 million over two years, with the $1.5 million buyout not even counting towards the cap on the second year. And since Dalembert is much less likely to suck than Kwame, he’s still the better value.
No. It's 7 million this year.
It’s 1.5 minimum against next year’s cap.
I can’t claim to have been paying much attention to either Kwame or Dalembert last season. Over their careers, it’s cleaer Dalembert was the better player, but last year is more ambiguous: Dalembert was uncharacteristically awful with the ball in his hands (.509 TS, 2.5 TO/36) while Kwame had one of his better years (.550TS%, 1.4 TO/36). Dalembert was the better rebounder and shot blocker and better according to +/-.
I think Dalembert is probably a better deal … unless that $1.5m against next year’s cap puts you in a position where you can’t make a move you want to make. But the difference is small and not worth fretting over. They’ve both mediocre centers.
The buyout would count against the cap?
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 22, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
Yes.
Think about it.
If not, then you would never need an amnesty. You could just tell a player like Charlie Bell, “We’re buying you out for the price of your contact.” Pay him every dollar owed and magically it’s no longer on the cap.
Sure, but in your example, that isn’t a contractually agreed-upon buyout. You’re just choosing to get rid of a players salary in a contract that you acquired.
I’m wondering if it being written in the contract (just between the organization and player) makes it different. They’re just dangling a carrot for Sam to take a short deal: like, “hey, if we don’t pick up your option next year, we’ll give you $1.5M as a consolation.” Since they would be declining their option, I’m not sure why the buyout would have anything to do with the cap.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 22, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
In essence, they aren’t buying out that second year at all. They’re just awarding him with $1.5M if they don’t pick up that second year at all. I can’t tell if I’m conveying my point adequately. Is my logic making sense? :)
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 22, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
You can't pay a player and have it not hit the cap.
Doesn’t matter if you’re paying them to play or to go away.
whew
i’m SOOOOOO glad he’s not back in Sac…he an’t much, but thatd give em too much depth…helps us a lot….whew…SOOOOO glad!
He wouldn't have gone for 8.5M this year and a team option of 7M next year?
So horrible that we signed Kwame when Sam was still available.
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Um.... Dalembert is pretty much same level player
There is almost noi difference in quality.
Neither have any offensive game, last year KWame was more efficient. Career wise it’s been Dalembert.
Kwame is a better post defender. Dalembert is a better help defender. We have enough help defenders.
It’s not like we’re talking Chandler and Kwame. It’s Kwame Dalembert. I actually think Kwame fits our needs more.
Can I see some synergy numbers on post defense?
Not being snarky. Seriously. I’m curious.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 22, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Remember...
There is no guarantee that Dalembert wanted to sign with us. In fact there is no sign whatsoever that he wanted to play here. From the sound of it he might have taken less to sign with Houston because he wasn’t happy with the situation in Sacramento.
Actually, there were reports that he was open to coming here. I’d dig up references if I wasn’t lazy.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 22, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
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