Depth matters
by B Freedman on Dec 23, 2011 9:30 PM PST
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PrintThe Warriors got good depth. If they attack the thin Clips we SHOULD smash 'em. They got NO big man depth. We got the fouls and bodies to give and to give HARD. Tell you what doubters...this is the DARKHORSE of the nba. Play strong warriors. Be there fans.
We were benefited by loosing to the Kings. Shoot, they might be better than the Clips too. I'm not at all a Kings fan, shoot, f*ck the kings, but, the Lakers will be taking the 8th spot this year. Kobe's good enough to keep the implosion from being complete, but the Clips beating the Lakers ain't no test. That helps us. It boosts the Clips confidence and that sh*t is gonna get ROCKED.
The Clips will provide some highlights, but that's it. Come on, ya'll, get hyped. SHOW YO JUNK !
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too bad no one on the Warriors is good at drawing fouls.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 23, 2011 10:14 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
~*looses* his pants and shows his junk~
Hell ya! we gonna jack those fools UP.
nah seriously we could have some decent depth maybe. will be interesting to see if it is so!
lose = not win.
loose = not tight. (holding back jokes)
I'm not sure I would say they're better or worse before seeing them in a game that matters.
Right now on paper they look….younger.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
our depth is very young though. Klay, Jenkins, Tyler are rookies (is chris wright a rookie?), Udoh and ish smith are still only sophomores with ish getting very little PT last season.
Our bench could develop into a solid one but i dont see our bench as a very strong one at this moment
by No Dice Jim Rice on Dec 24, 2011 9:03 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I do think depth matters more than usual this season.
But overall quality is more important than depth.
by Ronaldinho on Dec 24, 2011 9:36 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Thuggery
And I mean that in a good way.
Picture this: You are an Eastern Conference team on an extended road trip. One more game tomorrow against the Lakers (or Clippers) in all of their prime time glory.
But tonight, after coasting to a 5 point first quarter lead at Golden State, all of a sudden you are getting pushed around by the likes of Brown, Udoh, McGuire, Rush and Jenkins, when all you want to do is go to your hotel room and sleep.
[To be fair, we’ll probably need to put a scorer or two in there somewhere, but you get the idea]
I don’t know if we’ll eke out any wins this way, but I am looking forward to finding out.
I also gotta say, that I think we will learn a lot about how the first half of this season will go on Sunday, for better or worse. I am both eager to find out, and dreading the possible outcome…
Man - this kool-aid is really good! What did you put in it?
Yes, let's judge this entire season on the outcome of one game. That's how I plays it.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Lets just say our bench is more talented on the defensive end than ever before.
I mean only klay, jenkins, and maybe one more if I’m forgetting anyone are better on offense. heck, maybe some of them are also good at defense.
I think the game plan is for the starters to play both defense and offense on equal base. Let the bench come in slowly to establish that tough defense, whilst scoring through the guards or david lee/dorell/klay.
If we later do produce a good depth bench focusing defense as a strongsuit, then dammit we have a solid solid team. very underrated too.
curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.
"What did the 5 fingers say to DA FACE?!?!"
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
I thought this would be a thoughtful post including statistics and philosophy about depth.
Apparently not….
C'mon bro, he just said the Kings are better than the Clips. Spot on analysis is all you need.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
i pity the fool...
…I think I said the Kings were a better test than the fakers…and hmmm…the Kings just beat the fakers…and the Kings will be good, hopefully not as good as us…same goes for the Crappers…
the Kings just beat the fakers…and the Kings will be good, hopefully not as good as us…same goes for the Crappers…
hard to take the analysis of anyone who don’t respect the other teams seriously.
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 27, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
We actually have depth
We just signed Reggie Evans, who literally inhales rebounds like a BEAST, but he is unlikely to play tomorrow due to a gimpy ankle. Our rookie 2nd round pick Trey Thompkins, has been a real pleasant surprise for us. We currently have no back up for DJ but I heard that we’re looking at guys like Pryzbilla, Kryrlo Fesenko, Gadzuric, and Diogu. And please don’t get me started on our Point Guards…
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin
im talking about BIGS primarily
and regarding BIGS the clips got SQUAT on the bench…lol
except for Reggie Evans, who is alrightish.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 24, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
Quick question:
You’re the Warriors GM. The Clips offer to trade you DeAndre Jordan, Reggie Evans, Trey Thomkins and Blake Griffin for Lee, Andris, Tyler, Udoh, and Kwame.
You do that, right? Doesn’t matter if you’re thinking short term or long term. You accept the offer as quick that they don’t have a chance to think twice about it.
The notion that the Warriors have any sort of big man edge is laughable even if you don’t think DeAndre Jordan is very good.
hahha very good point. the clips are scary suddenly
they should split the minutes between bullups and paul at 24 apiece and rest them throughout the season and use their depth to pick up the slack
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Dec 24, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
the refs will make the clips scary good
with our potential defense (kinetic if continued throughout a game like tonight and the season) we can be scary good…don’t worry our shots will fall…with Kwame and Beans and Udoh on board ot board and kick ass…WE SHOULD BE SCARY GOOD too…BELIEVE THAT
Eh..
First off the Kings and Warriors are not better than the Clippers even if we do “smash” them. It still doesn’t change the fact we barely have a chance in making the 8th seed.
7th pick...sh*t...i say 7th seed
lakers taking 8th…away from kings, houston, phx, minni, portland…. With new mindset, starting with monta blocking all ya’lls negative shit, we’ll be the SURPRISE of the league DrUBbing folks. Go DUBS
Nothing about the Warriors roster indicates that they’re better than the Lakers.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 24, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
We have a better PG!
when he can put weight on his foot
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 27, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
hell no - stacks hve nothing on heart and heat of the moment
STATS LIE…DON’T TURN BASKETBALL INTO BASEBALL…B-BALL IS ABOUT PLAYMAKERS, HUSTLE, HEART AND SOUL.
you don’t stats to know beidrens can’t shoot, or curry can rarely pass, although maybe he’s getting better (AND STATS HAVE NOTHING ON IMPROVEMENT…just past improvement…), that we got shooters, including Klay, and not to mention…
…ALL THE BULLSH*T REF CALLS !!!
Stats do not lie. At the most basic level, they’re merely a recording of what happened. They’re a tool that is useful when used right.
by Missing Barry on Dec 24, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
…ALL THE BULLSH*T REF CALLS !!!
Okay, I could MAAAYBE believe you if we’re talking about the BS calls against the Raiders sometimes.
But the Warriors, I’d say aren’t abnormally targeted with referee bias.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
STATS LIE…DON’T TURN BASKETBALL INTO BASEBALL…B-BALL IS ABOUT PLAYMAKERS, HUSTLE, HEART AND SOUL.
Screaming (all-caps typing) makes your point, such that it is, less convincing. It suggests that you lack a real argument and decide instead to overcompensate with sheer noise.
People lie. Statistics are just systematic recording of what actually happened.
by jae on Dec 25, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
nellie sucks
and statistics are not a recording—they are a post priori interpretation.
No, they're not.
Statistics are just the recording.
What conclusions you draw from they are the interpretation.
For example, if I say that Landry Fields has a higher WP48 than Monta Ellis, that is not an interpretation. That’s a fact. It’s a recording of what happened.
If I say that Landry Fields is a better basketball player, or contributes more to winning, than Monta Ellis on a basis of that WP48, then I’m engaging in interpretation.
It’s very important to understand the difference between those two things.
by Ronaldinho on Dec 26, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
what the hecks your pt.
of course stats are stats/numbers and the only thing to do with them is look at them and interpret them…but if you didn’t see it in action…and understand the playing up to and “then”….you don’t know squat…if you’re just looking at stats…they are just numbers…meaningless numbers…meaningless in the moment and passion of the game…that only refs can thrash…
like coach jackson said…i don’t need to know that (the stats) to know he (Kwame in this case) played great…paraphrased
of course stats are stats/numbers and the only thing to do with them is look at them and interpret them…but if you didn’t see it in action…and understand the playing up to and "then"….you don’t know squat…if you’re just looking at stats…they are just numbers…meaningless numbers…meaningless in the moment and passion of the game…that only refs can thrash…
Wow. How … coherent of you.
i don’t need to know that (the stats) to know he (Kwame in this case) played great
Of course, that implies that the stats suggest that Kwame had a bad game.
But they do quite the opposite, actually. The stats suggest that Kwame had a pretty good game in most areas except for shooting the ball.
if you’re just looking at stats…they are just numbers…meaningless numbers
Well….just….no. They’re not meaningless. They don’t tell the full story, but neither are they meaningless. They tell part of the story, and are especially useful since humans tend to do a poor job accurately remembering the kinds of things we tend to keep statistics for. Without recording FGM, FGA and points, we’d have a really, really hard time remembering just how much a player scored and how many shots it took to do so in a given game, for example.
by Missing Barry on Dec 27, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
i don’t need to know that (the stats) to know he (Kwame in this case) played great…paraphrased
As for this part, Coach Jackson was right. The stat the reporter gave him was basically meaningless. It was a bad use of statistics. +/- is useful, but in that context (one player in a single game), it just doesn’t tell us anything worth knowing.
by Missing Barry on Dec 27, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
It’s better to ignore it in that situation.
by Missing Barry on Dec 27, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
like coach jackson said…i don’t need to know that (the stats) to know he (Kwame in this case) played great…
then he was just rating him on something other than the insight the stats woulda provided. If he was rating his play on something recorded in the stats it woulda showed up cause that what stats do. There’s not a stat for everything but there could be if someone wanted to take the trouble and had the expertise to quantify everything.
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 27, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
I...
I have no idea what this thread is about.
by slapchop on Dec 24, 2011 3:35 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
no really
…twitter sucks lol…but really…IT’S ABOUT…
We got Big Man depth, we don’t loose much when we go to our BM bench…
We got drivers who can draw fouls…Monta, Rush, Jenkins, maybe McGuire, not to mention our bigs…
Clips gonna have TROUBLE dealing with that
We’ll put up points, play D, make em go to their bench, and get win #1…
ps. D Wright…stick to the three, no more mid range jumpers…PLEASE
Have you ever used twitter? I think it’s very useful.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 24, 2011 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
Also- none of those guys except maybe Jenkins are going to be good at drawing fouls. Monta sucks at it, David Lee sucks at it, Curry sucks at it, Biedrins sucks at it, Dorell sucks at it… basically 3/4 of our minutes distribution sucks at it already. The last 1/4 would have to be really good, but guys like Klay Thompson and no offense guys like Brandon Rush and Kwame Brown are going to be getting the spare minutes. Like I said, there’s a chance that Jenkins is good at it (and there’s a chance that he doesn’t play a tall), but that’s not enough. We don’t have a Maggette, Kevin Martin, Nene, etc.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 24, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
DRIVING AND DISHING
That’s how to create fouls and we are learning to do that…meaning Curry and Klay and D-Wright are learning to do this. Monta knows how to do this and do it well. D Lee can do this and do this well. Did you see that sweet give and go dunk the f*ck outta the ball with Ellis…f*cking refs giving him a tech…BS…. Ish tries to do this…and he may…and I think/thought Jenkins could do this…but can’t tell…lol. Rush Is a Good Passer…after all…and receiver too.
Don’t know what happened at the end…kinda crazy…clips…crappers…had no business winning that game…except that I agree that the nba/stern wouldn’t let both LA teams loose…
…“not that it’s bad or anything” (Sinfeild)…but does anyone else think Blake Griffin is gay…he has a creepy-ass smile in his commercials…“not that it’s bad or anything”…
The tech wasn’t BS. It’s a technicality, and it might be a bad rule, but I definitely think the rules call for a T there. Don’t blame the refs in that case – blame the rulemakers.
As for driving and dishing – depends on where the dish is to. Last year we tended to kick it out for 3’s. Won’t draw fouls doing that. Nice little passes to the short corner/block like Monta’s been doing this year? Yes, that is a way to draw fouls. Basically…jumpshots just don’t draw fouls, shots at the rim can, depending on how much contact you draw. Guys like Maggette do everything they can to draw contact every time, and get rewarded with lots of trips to the line. Some players avoid contact at the rim (for example, players like Biedrins, Monta and Derrick Rose have all done that at various points in their career – Rose has changed, and hopefully we’ll start seeing that from Biedrins and Monta, too), and don’t get rewarded with foul calls often.
by Missing Barry on Dec 27, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Driving and dishing is a way to create assists, not fouls. I don’t know what you’re saying. Everyone on the roster is objectively bad at drawing fouls. There isn’t an argument against it. Monta seems like he should be good at it, but he flees contact at the rim. He contorts his body away from the contact, so he doesn’t get foul shots.
I don’t think Blake Griffin is gay, I think he’s just a bit of a ham. If there’s nothing wrong with it (and there isn’t) then you wouldn’t make silly judgments about it based on nothing.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 27, 2011 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
…"not that it’s bad or anything" (Sinfeild)…but does anyone else think Blake Griffin is gay…he has a creepy-ass smile in his commercials…"not that it’s bad or anything"…
If it’s not bad or anything why do you bring it up?
We could tie you up and send you out on date with him to find out for sure if you really need to know?
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Dec 27, 2011 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
…"not that it’s bad or anything" (Sinfeild)…but does anyone else think Blake Griffin is gay…he has a creepy-ass smile in his commercials…"not that it’s bad or anything"…
Why would a “creep ass” smile make someone gay? I don’t think Herman Cain is gay at all.
by Evanz on Dec 28, 2011 6:05 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Clearly you've never, and I mean ever seen Rush play if you think he's a good driver and good at getting fouled.
He’s garbage on offense except for jumpshots.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
um...he's not garbage dude...
…why am I thinking of camel toes…lol
He’s good at shooting 3s and bad at everything else that relates to offense. He has poor skills with the ball.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 27, 2011 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
If you mean Rush, then I agree. I think he’ll end up being more useful that Lou would. Lou would probably the 5th best big on the roster this year whereas Rush has played well enough to be the clear first wing off the bench. He’s been impressive in his short time as a Warriors.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 29, 2011 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
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