Stat-O-Graphics: Free Agent Wings Total Impact

by Evanz on Dec 4, 2011 8:34 AM PST in NBA Stats

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Everyone one knows the Warriors need quality bigs. One other important element that this team is short on (haha) are backup wings. Reggie Williams is a free agent. Klay Thompson is a rookie who has played mostly at the 2. Who is going to be Dorell's backup? It's not a small concern (hehe). Jump for the stats.

Like I did previously for bigs, I'm plotting offensive and defensive RAPM along with offensive and defensive ezPM100. The graph is sorted in descending order by the average of RAPM + ezPM100, which we can think of as "total impact" ("double impact" would have been my first choice, but unfortunately, it reminds me too much of a terrible Van Damme movie).

I'm not entirely enamored with our choices. It's been rumored that Battier will be headed to Miami. I don't think the FO would be interested in brining back Dunleavy (or Richardson for that matter), although if he could be signed on a reasonable contract, he'd probably help us quite a bit. Marquis Daniels brings the defense, but he's 30 and coming off an injury. AK47 is coming off a huge contract, and has a history of injuries, but he's another guy who could obviously help us, given a reasonable contract size. I'm surprised to see McGrady so high on the list, to be honest. Reggie comes in about halfway down the list. So, what do you guys think? Anyone that seems particularly interesting?

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I want Daniels

He provides a veteran prescence and plays D. I didn’t think Daequan Cook was that bad, he is a good role player who plays defense and hits threes. Daequan is another person I would like to go after. These two will likely be cheap and not kill our cap.

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by doubleteapot on Dec 4, 2011 8:40 AM PST reply actions

I didn’t think Daequan Cook was that bad

Well, he’s not “bad”. I mean, he’s right there with Reggie. If we lose Reggie, I wouldn’t mind picking up Cook (if the contract is “reasonable”).

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by Evanz on Dec 4, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions

You guys have to remember:

Tons of these guys have played on great teams with great players and in limited roles. If you bring them here, and expect them to change the culture of the team/have a big role, they won’t be as effective. I find it interesting Reggie’s ORAPM is lower than a lot of these guys considering he’s probably on of the best offensive free agents out there.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 4, 2011 9:54 AM PST reply actions

he's one of the best shooters, maybe the best

but ORAPM takes into account “everything” (setting screens, assists, diving for loose balls, etc) – the guys ahead of him are mostly veterans with a lot more experience (and James Jones is also a great 3-pt shooter)

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by Evanz on Dec 4, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions

When you say "You guys", who do you mean?

Because I certainly know all that. Hence,

I’m not entirely enamored with our choices.

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by Evanz on Dec 4, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions

When Kirilenko's offense is as good as Reggie, I have a hard time believing that.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 4, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions

AK47's such a limited offensive player.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 4, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions

career 57% TS on 19% USG

that’s not that bad at all really

For comparison, DWright is 53% TS on 18% USG for his career.

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by Evanz on Dec 4, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions

it's tailed off the past couple of seasons, but he has a long history of positive ORAPM

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by Evanz on Dec 4, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions

A lifetime with Sloan.

by Uwe Blog on Dec 4, 2011 3:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

I refuse to believe

JR Smith had more of a positive impact than Arron Afflalo.

by mr. eggplant on Dec 4, 2011 11:45 AM PST reply actions

Actually, looking at it,

Smith had a much better season than I remembered.

by mr. eggplant on Dec 4, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions

in 4th place... MIKE DUNLEAVY!

i could use me a really funny dunleavy pic bout now ( :

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Dec 4, 2011 1:30 PM PST reply actions

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Dec 4, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs

LOL.

I must have seen that pic about a million times, but it still gets me.

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by callahan on Dec 5, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions

Wow, Sonny Weems is somehow worse at basketball than I thought.

by Reverend_Randy on Dec 4, 2011 2:31 PM PST reply actions

We should try to go after young SF with potential. Aminu, Terrence Williams are a couple of players that come to mind.

by farid on Dec 4, 2011 3:08 PM PST reply actions

I think

Terrance Williams is a 2? We certainly don’t need more defensively frail guards.

Grant Hill for the vets minimum?

by RACE!! on Dec 4, 2011 3:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

Williams is a legit 6'6" and very strong and athletic.

not anywhere near a frail guard. much more of a sf than a sg

but i don’t want him. he’s all potential, and no actual results

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by Brownie13 on Dec 4, 2011 6:07 PM PST up reply actions

If only JR Smith didn’t hop on a plane to China…

by WYK on Dec 4, 2011 5:39 PM PST reply actions

Whats the status of Thad Young

on the 76ers. Is he restricted or not? Would love to get him in Golden State to back up Dorell

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by GSW9 on Dec 4, 2011 7:16 PM PST reply actions

Yes, he is restricted, and I wouldn't mind getting Tayshaun Prince for a back up.

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by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 4, 2011 7:55 PM PST up reply actions

Any way we

could sign him? Do 76ers still want him that much?

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by GSW9 on Dec 4, 2011 8:06 PM PST up reply actions

The 76ers said they'd match any "reasonable" offer for him.

by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 4, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions

re: Tayshaun Prince for a back up.

that’s an expensive back-up!

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 5, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions

Lol... everyone in that pic is flexing

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by Mashed Potatoes on Dec 4, 2011 7:53 PM PST reply actions

Always loved kirilenko..still want him...

have a feeling he is going to go somewhere to try and get that useful ring…maybe Miami/Boston….but it would be nice to see an AK47/Udoh/Chandler led defensive unit…would instantly change the culture of the squad….does anyone know what is going on with Al Thornton…the dubs going to bring him back? He showed some things at the end of the year.

by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Dec 4, 2011 11:58 PM PST reply actions

useful=elusive

by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Dec 4, 2011 11:58 PM PST up reply actions

Wasn't there some rumor about Wilson Chandler? He can play some D.

I like AK47, too, but both he and Chandler will be too expensive. We’ll end up keeping Reggie.

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by callahan on Dec 5, 2011 9:39 AM PST reply actions

Why do we want Chandler and not Marc gasol?

by RACE!! on Dec 5, 2011 12:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions

Marc is restricted.. Harder to get

Grizzlies have said they’ll match pretty much any offer.

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by Potential on Dec 5, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions

Based on those stats, i would not be surprised to see Reggie come back now. Battier is the kind of guy who can show up anywhere and make a difference. He has the personality and brains to do anything. Outside of signing him, I think anyone else would be dangerous for our team chemistry in a shortened season. We already have a new coach and are looking at a free agent at center.
Reggie will fit right in at a good price. We can always sign him to a one or two year deal and consider moving him next year

by warriorsvictim on Dec 5, 2011 12:34 PM PST reply actions 1 recs