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Free Agency Q&A With Denver Stiffs: Nene, His Position, And How Much Longer He'll Play

It's pretty well established by now that Nene wants to play for someone other than the Denver Nuggets after this year's lockout-shortened free agent frenzy, with the Golden State Warriors being one of the teams vying for his services.

With plenty of talk around here about Nene and how he might fit on the Warriors, Nate Timmons of SB Nation's Denver Stiffs offered to answer a few questions about the Brazilian big man that have popped up in various places on this site.

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GSoM: What do you consider to be the biggest misconception (good or bad) about Nene?

Nate Timmons: The biggest misconception surrounding Nene is that he's soft. He sure hasn't been quiet, publicly, about not liking the center position, but he also kept playing there night in and night out. He's a physical defender and has become better at protecting the rim, although he's not the best shot blocker around. On offense, he has an array of moves and a lot of them come from banging into his defender to get them guessing where he's going to go. He's extremely good at making defenders look silly.

At times he can look disinterested or perhaps tired and he plays best when he gets fired up, ask Lou Amundson how to do that. And when Nene gets angry, look out rim because he's coming to attack. Also, the knock that Nene isn't durable is also false. You can't really help it when you tear an ACL or get cancer. The past three seasons he's only missed 12 regular season games.


GSoM: There is some debate among Warriors fans about Nene's position - some would rather have him at PF than C; others don't even think he can play PF. We can all go and look at the stats about his production by position, but given what you've seen, what might the stats not tell us about his ability to move between PF and C?

NT: Power forward is Nene's original position. When the Nuggets traded Marcus Camby, for salary cap space, the Nuggets were forced to play Nene at center. The Nuggets played a quick style and Nene was the perfect guy for the position because his speed is pretty amazing. You will often see him out on the fast break and he has great hands to catch the long pass and incredible reach to finish above the rim off the break. He's an athletic freak.

Nene did bulk up a bit to play inside for the Nuggets, but he wants to go back to the power forward spot and his rebounding numbers would increase if he's allowed to do so. He's probably truly 6'9'', so going against Andrew Bynum and Dwight Howard was also an issue for the Denver big guy. We're excited in Denver for the team to re-sign Nene and slide him to PF and put Timofey Mozgov and his 7'1'' frame in the middle. We're not sure if we'll get the chance to see Nene return to his natural position in Denver or not, but I do think teams with a PF opening have an edge over teams just looking for a center.

GSoM: What might be an area of improvement for Nene over the course of his career that people either underestimate or overlook as something that could stand out in a different situation?

NT: Nene's first few seasons in the league he didn't have much game away from the basket or near the basket. He depended heavily on his athleticism. When he tore his ACL in the first game of the 2005-06 season that gave Nene time to develop a jumper and he also came back with some great post moves. He made himself into a much better all-around player since coming to America from Brazil when he was just a 19 year-old kid.

GSoM: In what types of situations - in terms of personnel or style of play - do you think Nene would thrive? Conversely, in what situations might he struggle?

NT: The up-tempo style that Golden State ran in the past would fit Nene very well. He can also play in a half-court set. I don't know what Mark Jackson is planning on running out West, but Nene can adapt to any style.

If the Warriors are expecting to sign Nene as the first or second scoring option (not likely with Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry in tow) for the team, that isn't what he's accustomed to. Nene rarely takes over 12 shots in a game and will even start passing the ball out of the post when he feels he's taken over too much. It can be quite frustrating, but he's just that unselfish.

GSoM: Looking back on his career with the Nuggets, what will the team miss most about him, assuming he goes elsewhere?

NT: Nene would make a play or two during a game where you'd just be left speechless. His power dunks are some of the best in the league. Nene is now 29 years-old and he's been with the team for a decade. He'll be sorely missed in Denver if he leaves as he's the most familiar face on the team for life-long Nuggets fans. But some in Nuggets Nation wont miss what they perceive to be a soft nature and a guy who also left you wanting to see more.

GSoM: Nene is reportedly looking for something in the "neighborhood of maximum-contract territory". Given your opinion of him, does that seem spot on, too much, or a bargain for him?

NT: Nene stated back in 2009 that he wants to be retired by the 2016 Olympics. Nene has a love for basketball, but people have always questioned how committed Nene is to the game. He is in his prime right now; I expect to see 2-3 more high level seasons from Nene before we see any dropoff. A four-year contract near the max or a five year in a sign-and-trade should be Nene's last and it's sort of scary that he has part of a foot out the basketball door, but a guy can always change his mind. I don't expect Nene to be much better than he has been in Denver the past three seasons, but if you're looking for a guy who puts up a steady 12 points and 6 rebounds, he is your guy. He'll get you the occasional 20 points and 10 rebounds, but not on a nightly basis, it's just not who he is.

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This was a great post - thanks!

I was excited to hear about how unselfish he is – did not know that.
I was less excited to hear he takes defense off sometimes.
Great post all around – love to see the same type of interview with people from Mavs world about Chandler.

by Togna Balogna on Dec 6, 2011 8:36 AM PST reply actions  

Hmm

Couple things that worry me from this analysis… If he doesn’t want to play center, that is a problem. We already have a power forward. Also, he sounds like he isn’t sure where he’ll be in 5 years… I would rather commit to Chandler. A true C, the defensive stopper we never had in the middle

by bayareaballa on Dec 6, 2011 8:45 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Nene+Udoh would be a great combo in my opinion

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by Evanz on Dec 6, 2011 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Hrm, never thought of it that way.

That’s a good point. I’m always thinking of him playing next to Lee.

by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 6, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Especially when UDoh becomes Marcus Camby < / J-R >

I’m curious how a 3 man rotation with Lee would go? Obviously defensively, Lee/Nene is suspect, but they should be able to pound most units offensively.

by tafkasam on Dec 6, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I just can't get excited about

12 points and 6 rebounds even at his efficiency, especially when you factor in not wanting to play Center, nor being very good at defending the rim, and considering his market price.

by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 6, 2011 9:38 AM PST reply actions  

+100

Excellent point Lacob’s Ladder. We either want a big man or we don’t. I say go out and get DeAndre Jordan. Stop pussy-footin’ and get a BIG..not a kinda big. Let’s make a statement and improve this team.

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by SmittytheCutman on Dec 6, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

was just going to say exactly this

I’d love to have Nene, as a general rule, but the opportunity cost is just too high (too much salary, too many years, and this would essentially cap us out) – no thanks

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 6, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel that way about all the free agent bigs this year.

by Uwe Blog on Dec 6, 2011 8:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah

at this point, I hope Nene signs a max contract with the Nuggets or Rockets

bon voyage

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 7, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not terribly psyched. I think if we want a key big we shOuldnt be looking too hard at 30 year olds. We wanna bring in someone that can develop with our young core. I’d much rather see us overpay (slightly) for deandre jordan’s size than for us to hand out a near max deal to one of these centers. A max deal? Defense wins games but that’s just an overinflated market value.

by RACE!! on Dec 6, 2011 11:09 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

rec'd

it’s always interesting to hear other team’s fan’s viewpoints

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by Evanz on Dec 6, 2011 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

When I called my Warriors ticket rep this morning, she says the schedule should be available around 4-5pm today.

by bObaBaLLa on Dec 6, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

a good perspective on Nene and Jordan

along with other centers on the market, is up on Simmons’ Grantland blog, “second day of christmas”. he predicts that Nene will end up with a J.Johnson type of ‘comically overpaid’ deal.

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by the.monk on Dec 6, 2011 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

with our luck...

We will get Tyson and be ecstatic with the chance to win the Western Pacific
Then, Clippers will get CP3 to play alongside Griffin
Lakers will get Dwight Howard to play with Kobe
New Orleans will get Gordon and DeAndre Jordan
and we’ll be back at the bottom looking up…

sigh

by Togna Balogna on Dec 6, 2011 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

Exactly.

Which is why you don’t try to build through free agency. Negotiate from a position of strength, or don’t bother.

by Uwe Blog on Dec 6, 2011 8:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

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