Golden State Of Mind NBA Rumor Central: Warriors not Involved in 3-way Deal with Knicks/Hawks
by Nate Parham on Dec 11, 2011 11:12 AM PST
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Latest Warriors news:
Source says Golden State not involved in possible 3-tm, sign and trade talks with Atl for Jamal Crawford. NY interest real though.
via @sam_amick (SI)
Some people, like the anonymous NBA executive interviewed by Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski, are livid; others, like SB Nation's Tom Ziller of Sactown Royalty are...somewhere at the opposite end of the spectrum (in seriousness though, he also posted something with actual words about how the situation makes the league worse this morning). It's also quite clear that many folks on this site are probably closer to the Sactown Royalty official statement sentiment.
Anyway, you can keep up with all the league-wide stuff at SBNation.com's free agent hub with storystreams for just about every reaction to everything; you can get the latest updates on rumors, signings, and trades league-wide at the SB Nation free agency storystream.
Here, of course, we're going to update this post with the latest Warriors-relevant news throughout the day while you discuss everything else in the comments. I'll begin with fan shots from the community and try to post as often as possible, but remember you guys should feel free to use the comments to post whatever you're hearing.
The Knicks and Hawks were in active discussions today on a three-team sign-and-trade deal that would bring combo Jamal Crawford back to the club, according to an NBA source.
One source said the trade has a better than fifty-fifty chance of happening. The Warriors are the third team involved in the talks.
Read more:http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/knicks_working_on_trade_to_bring_X88nsR7szxSK1IbIoh87LN#ixzz1gFTu6OkoLakers.
Jason Richardson has reached agreement on a four year, $25M deal with the Orlando Magic, league source tells Y! Sports.
The talk of the NBA right now is the league nixing a proposed blockbuster that would've sent Chris Paul to the L.A.
The Atlanta Hawks have signed Vladimir Radmanovic, according to press release.
via @AlexKennedyNBA
Warriors cut Jeremy Lin -
Warriors are making moves to create cap space as they prepare offer sheet for Clippers' DeAndre Jordan - http://j.mp/utVy8a
From Marcus Thompson via Twitter
The Golden State Warriors will offer restricted free agent center DeAndre Jordan a contract starting at an annual salary of $10 million, according to Yahoo! Sports. The L.A. Clippers can match any offer sheet that Jordan signs owing to Jordan's restricted status. The Clippers had previously offered Jordan a five-year deal worth $40 million.
From Tom Ziller of SBN (via Yahoo Sports).
According to two sources with knowledge of the Warriors’ thinking, they will once again revisit trying to trade for Paul and also will go hard after center DeAndre Jordan, a restricted free agent.
The Warriors were in the mix for Paul before he was dealt to the L.A. Lakers as part of a three-team trade with Houston. But commissioner David Stern nullified the deal and as of now Paul remains a Hornet.
More news:
Tyson Chandler Agrees With Knicks
Warriors going after Clippers’ DeAndre Jordan
Tyson Chandler deals GS Warriors curveball
To further lament the loss of Chandler: GSoM NBA Free Agency Q&A With Mavs Moneyball: How Much Is Tyson Chandler Really Worth?
The following are links to fan shots from the past day from around the community. Feel free to pick up those discussions or start up new ones.
Warriors ready to give Deandre Jordan an offer. Reggie Williams Fielding Offers
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"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
by kenntoe on Dec 9, 2011 10:22 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm not going to like this ending
With Nene still out there, why aren’t we taking a run at him? TK said he wants $15M per. That seems more than reasonable to me compared to Chandler or Jordan.
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"Also, Evanz’ posts are easiest to hide while working. The chats and graphs can look like actual work related data to the lazy walker-by’s eye" (tafkasam)
With Nene still out there
nene is going to Nets.
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 9, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
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4 yrs, 58 million – same as Chandler’s deal with Knicks.
I do wonder if the Warriors made an offer…and if so, how much?
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crap
I mean, that’s ridic
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"Also, Evanz’ posts are easiest to hide while working. The chats and graphs can look like actual work related data to the lazy walker-by’s eye" (tafkasam)
good god
that’s like….David Lee type money!!
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 9, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Nene is like...much better than Lee
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"Also, Evanz’ posts are easiest to hide while working. The chats and graphs can look like actual work related data to the lazy walker-by’s eye" (tafkasam)
I'd much rather give Nene David Lee type money than say...David Lee.
I’d rather take Nene over Chandler for the same price but oh well, now it’s time for Plan F, or G I can’t keep up at this point!
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
shoulda used my sarcasm font
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 9, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I totally got it.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
I just don't get it
we were going to give Chandler that much, but not Nene? ah, so frustrated right now
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"Also, Evanz’ posts are easiest to hide while working. The chats and graphs can look like actual work related data to the lazy walker-by’s eye" (tafkasam)
Even though indivudally Nene>Chandler, Chandler wouldve been the better fit for this roster and im sure neither of us can dispute that argument
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Depends on what you're addressing. Chandler of course helps this defense.
Nene in turn would help the offense a lot.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
That's always a valid Warriors point.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Nene's a lot better though.
I’ll take Nash over Rondo etc.
Ron Paul 2012
by GovernorStephCurry on Dec 9, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
@WojYahooNBA reporting Nets prepared to offer Nene 4-year, $60 mil-$65 mil contract. That’s out of the Pacers’ price range.
Sounds like it might be for even more than that.
by warriorsablaze on Dec 9, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Nene does NOT want to play center!
Jordan is a good fit and for 10 mil its reasonable for a young athletic big with upside. Get him.
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 12:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
thank you!
Sick and tired of the Nene talk. The man is not a center and we have enough guys too short to be centers that might need to play center. Nene at 14 or15 < Jordan at 10 given the current roster.
by Togna Balogna on Dec 9, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
What’s funny is how many people on here were saying the opposite- Nene is only a center and not a PF. He’s both and saying he’s not one or the other is silly. What he is is really good at basketball. Better than Chandler, way better than Jordan. Jordan is basically just okay right now and not worth that kind of money. He’s essentially a 22 year old Chris Andersen.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Nene has a principle agreement with Houston
They were planning to get Nene with Pau
Add good perimeter shooters and excellent post passers.
Scary.
damn you morey.
The man with a plan
Shows reasonable contracts + assets are tradeable.
Scola at 8-9 mil, very nice piece. David Lee at 12-15, not so much
I mean, even post-Yao era, he’s still making stuff happen. The guy’s good.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Morey was my first thought after hearing about pau going to Houston.
Get that man now Lacob.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
I’d rather endure another season of Biedrins and swing for the fences in both the draft and free agency next offseason than overpay for Deandre Jordan for the next 4 years and see him not live up to expectations.
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 10:23 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
+9999999!
Beans > Jordan with the right coach. Smart sucks! Smart, please destroy Cousins while you are there.
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 9, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
oh for the love of god yes!
curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.
by bimmercirem3 on Dec 9, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Not saying Jordan is any better but man I am over Beans
Beans = No defense
well if we keep our current roster
we likely wont have a pick next year
but, what if he does live up to expectations in say, Clippers land
we will be wishing we had gotten him from a rival in the conference when we had the chance
by Togna Balogna on Dec 9, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
David Lee's jump shooting will draw defenders outside and allow Jordan to work inside.
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Just one of the benefits.
When was the last time we had an athletic AND physical 5? And please dont say Andris!
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
You must have missed the word PHYSICAL
Andris is not physical….he’s a fairly thin guy.
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
then define "physical" and how it relates to basketball skill
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
So why didn't Pavel Podkolzin work out?
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
To suggest “physical” is not a factor and has no affect on basketball skill is silly
by WestCoastWarrior on Dec 9, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
But skill is clearly the more important factor.
It doesn’t matter how big you are if you can’t play, etc.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
Yea he was
and his physicalness, especially when young, was a factor of that skill.
by WestCoastWarrior on Dec 9, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Jordan doesn't work inside. He catches lobs and gets putbacks when his man goes to double Blake Griffin.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
If he does that here I'd be happy too.
Because Blake Griffin would be with him.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
It has less to do with Blake thank you think
DeAndre’s career points per 36, rebounds per 36
10.6, 11.1
10.6, 11.1
10.0, 10.1
Slightly higher efficiency
Check his RAPM numbers
Bottom 5% in the league. IN THE LEAGUE.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
He's not quite that bad, but he is disliked by 5yr RAPM.
His 2010-11 RAPM is decent enough. Counter to popular belief, though, all of his value is on the offensive end (owing to his sky high efficiency with Blake around, I imagine).
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
-4.4 is bad. But that's his single year for 09-10.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
It's actually 10-11.
But you’re right. I forgot to mention that it’s actually in decline. 09-10 was -3.6.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I thought that was predictive only.
Man, that site needs a little help in presentation and layout.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
check those fouls/36 as well
then imagine him with the warriors’ porous defense
And that's why his playing time went up
He learned how to play a little more
huh?
he’s averaged 4.5+ fouls per 36 minutes all three years.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
beans was much better at 21
things don’t always work out. and 10M is an awful lot for a gamble
Beans
“Is uncoachable for shooting free throws” – Don Nelson
Slightly higher?
He went from .571 TS% without Blake to .648 TS% with him. And his FG% jumped 80 points.
There’s nothing slight about that.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
True
But it’s not like 570-585 range of TS% is by any means bad.
I’d be more concerned if he went from .500 to .580
Sure. He went from above average to elite levels, though.
So it’s hard to say if that’s development or if it’s the Blake Effect.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
I'm saying
I’m ok with .580 and double double numbers on points and rebounds IF his defense improves.
My biggest Q is his D. He has tools to be like Chandler or even Dwight defensively, but that doesn’t mean he’ll ever get there.
If we’re paying 10 mil for his numbers and at best andris 07-08 D, pass. If his D does improve then maybe it’s worth it.
I'm confused. Because Andris played really good defense in 07-08.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
this
back when players could somewhat guard their positions. beans wasnt getting constantly attacked by slashers getting past porous defenders
?
defensive rating on court- 109.3
defensive rating off court- 112.0
I mean yes, he was a positive, but I wouldn’t say really good. He was still bullied.
I thought he showed really good defensive potential. Which is more or less what I think DeAndre’s shown.
Potential.
Can’t we at least OFFER Marc Gasol 13, 14mil a year, if we dont get him, at least we’ll jack up the price for Memphis! I’d rather have Marc Gasol on this team than Nene, Chandler, or Deandre! Great player that goes hard on both ends of the floor!
I agree
I’d much rather have Gasol than Jordan
F the Po Po
by bojangles408 on Dec 9, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Why is everyone so down on Jordan? Kid is a beast. And he’s…a kid. Getting a good young center for $10mil per is a great idea.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
Getting a good young center for $10mil per is a great idea.
It’s a fantastic idea. Unfortunately, getting Jordan is not doing that.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
I guess I’ll need to plead ignorance. My only recollection of Jordan is him completely abusing us on both ends of the floor in a game last January.
Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!
by Supafishal on Dec 9, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
actually the jury is still out on Jordan
Big men take longer to develop – especially those who were able to get away with just relying on athletecism in the past.
I would be happy with getting Jordan and having Malone and crew teach him how to play the game of basketball.
by Togna Balogna on Dec 9, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
most big men abuse the warriors
chuck hayes had a triple double against david lee
Jordan has huge upside...
People talk about $10 mil a year as if its their money. 7 footers always make a lot of money. Particularly huge 7 footers with athleticism. I first saw Jordan warming up in a preseason game against the warriors two years ago and I was amazed. The cat is enormous and can really move. He can jump out of the gym. He is big enough and mobile enough to allow us to keep our current backcourt in tact. With some coaching he is a top 7 center immediately.
we don't talk as if it's our money
we talk as if it’s going to affect our cap situation (which it will)
So who are you uising that money to get....?
Biedrens is the one hurting the cap. The fact that he got $10 mil 3 years ago shows what the market is for 7 footers. Jordan is solid and upgrades our defense. Every decent 7 footer is commanding at least 10 mil. Oden who has played exactly 82 games more than me in his three years is getting 9 mil next year.
you do realize you dont have to spend over the cap every year?
there is such a thing as cap flexibility.
Get rid of Biedrens....
They have plenty of flexibility.
not if you use that money to sign deandre
then the money is tied up for a year longer if it doesn’t work out
Flip Monta into picks and depth and then sign one of the amnestied 2 guards like Vince or JRIch. NBA is about taking risks. We got good basketball minds in the front office now. Trust…
No, he’s just a free agent.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
agreed Frisco
The alternative is being soft in the paint, and I’ve had just about enough of seeing that!
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Deandre Jordan is a bad defender. Unless you mean on offense. He’s efficient, but isn’t the kind of guy who’s going hard and creating offense. He’s not Blake Griffin.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
The question is
How many additional wins will that 10 mil add?
I think he makes us a playoff team. We can defend any big in the league with him on the squad without helping. Yeah Dwight still gets his 20-30 points, but he does that on everybody. This is the first time almost since i’ve been alive that the warriors can get a legit big man with upside.
deandre is not a good defender
don’t know where you got that impression
there are many large and mobile players
that doesn’t mean they’re good defenders
by bigkino217 on Dec 9, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Good points about system Frisco
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
And what about our system?
Does that mean we can’t evaluate players because they don’t play in our system?
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Defense is about the players first.
It doesn’t matter what system you have if your team can’t play defense to begin with.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
You can tailor defenses to players strengths
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
But you can't make players better at playing defense.
You can hide them, or compensate for them, but when everyone on your roster (just about) is bad at playing defense, no system in the world is going to fix that.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Not necessarily true
What exactly makes someone a good defender? System and team defense is a factor
by WestCoastWarrior on Dec 9, 2011 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
And what makes team defense?
A team full of players who understand how to play on the defensive end.
No coach in the world is going to make David Lee a good post defender, for example
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
But it can cover up that weakness
Team defense can help bring double teams to help Lee for example. If executed well, it can equate to a decent defensive team overall.
by JoesBurlyCurls on Dec 9, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
While it’s important to have a defensive system that has everyone playing smart and committing to that end of the court, it doesn’t matter if all of your guys are poor athletes or weak or have poor size or poor fundamentals. Ours is not the team that would get Deandre to play the right kind of defense. Playing with dudes like Monta and David Lee and Stephen Curry probably won’t stoke his defensive fire.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree Randy
I actually think that the folks from MMB provided us an example of that in explaining Tyson Chandler’s impact on the Mavs’ defense:
What Tyson is, actually, is a “defense changer.” That is, his lateral quickness made up for the slow feet of the Mavs’ perimeter defenders. Add that to Marion’s ability to cover wings of all description, and Kidd’s ability to handle big guards and you’ve got a defense. Without that, you’ve got a leaky sieve of a defense that gets burned by fast guards.
http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2011/12/9/2622916/nba-free-agency-tyson-chandler-value#storyjump
I think he makes the point here that the Mavs had players who could play defense before, but had a few fatal flaws that prevented them from being good at it as a unit. Chandler came in and covered up that one flaw, which then helped strengthen team D because those guys had strengths to contribute.
At the high school level – and maybe even college – I agree that just having smart defenders is enough. But the pro game is entirely too fast/physical to be a good unit without that combination of IQ, athleticism, height, and fundamentals.
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by Nate Parham on Dec 10, 2011 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
He looks pretty on the court, but it's empty.
He isn’t actually very good.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
He only does good cause of how much attention griffin draws from the defense
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
This "yep" was in reply to Supafishal
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed...
Gasol is a stiff…he can score, but his lack of mobility makes him a defensive liability. We need shot changing and rebounding. Not that I wouldnt like him on the squad, but it would be after Deandre said no.
gasol is a better defender than deandre...
he’s also better offensively…it’s not really close
Deandre runs the floor well.....a perfect fit for our team.
Our 5 has to be physical AND run the floor….sorry Andris we have some lovely parting gifts for you.
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
No, he's just not physical
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
I like my centers to be good at basketball and smart defenders.
I don’t think our team is such that we can be counting out really good basketball players just because we’ve tended towards uptempo. If getting Marc Gasol means we have to slow down some, I’m all for it. He’s that good. Deandre Jordan is not.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
I would rather have Hayes at $5mil than Jordan
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 9, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I take it you haven't seen Deandre shoot free throws.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
the form may look better than hayes
but the percentage is much lower. in the end, that’s all that matters.
With Charlie Bell showing up to a drunken driving hearing drunk, is that enough reason to void his contract so we can get his 4 mil off the books and still save our amnesty clause for another player?
That would be great
If they could void Monta for a moped, it seems reasonable they could void Bell for drunken court appearances.
Im interested what the answer to this is
by WestCoastWarrior on Dec 9, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
No
Monta broke his ankle on the moped, thus had to miss games, thus he could not fulfill his contract obligations.
Unless Bell gets significant jail time,it’s not a voidable offense.
At least that’s how I understand it.
extrabaggs
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by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Let's go after Thaddeus Young!!!
come on FO, get it done
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by Evanz on Dec 9, 2011 10:30 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Too late...
“#Sixers & restricted free agent Thaddeus Young are closing in on a deal to bring him back to the Sixers, multiple NBA sources have confirmed”
http://twitter.com/deepsixer3/status/145216448158117889
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
did anyone make him an offer?
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"Also, Evanz’ posts are easiest to hide while working. The chats and graphs can look like actual work related data to the lazy walker-by’s eye" (tafkasam)
Good question
I saw you asked her on Twitter…
I would love to know where he ranked on the Warriors “free agent board”.
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
Probably under the N/A category.
The Warriors are allergic to signing players that actually help teams win and stuff.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
I think it is more like a critical path issue
we just don’t have enough cap room to sign multiple FAs (as long as we continue to target the big boys)
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 9, 2011 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Who?
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Thad the Impaler
(If you click “up”, you can see what post someone is replying to).
There will be no extra point!
Thanks Sleepy...
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by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Offer Rodney Stuckey the full MLE!
Guard rotation of Curry/Ellis/Stuckey, Curry/Ellis each getting 36 minutes a game, and Stuckey getting the other 24!
lol...
Stuckey for MLE? That’s funny
F the Po Po
by bojangles408 on Dec 9, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
whats wrong with that?
That’s the going price for him right now. Would you rather see jenkins/lin taking the 24 mpg all season long?
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
So down
Would be the perfect “big” guard to compliment Steph. 1/2 with Curry/Stuckey allows for flexibility on offense, then Steph matches up with 1’s and Stuckey can hopefully bigger 2’s that Monta/Steph currently have trouble handling
HARBAUGH FOR PRESIDENT 2012
NINERS SUPERBOWL OR BUST
FREDERICK P. SOFT NOWHERE TO BE FOUND
by Tom Huddlestone on Dec 9, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
I’ve been saying this for weeks now. Stuckey is the perfect combo guard to come off the bench for either of them. Doesn’t solve our small back court problem in the least, though.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
except....
that stucky is terrible, just not a winner. poor passer, little to no defense, hard to see how that helps
Actually, Stuckey’s an above average defender and a great slasher. He’d make a good 6th man.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty much all of the evidence suggests that Stuckey isn’t good at anything. He’s not-bad at a lot of things. He’s an acceptable bench player.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
Not an MLE type
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
he's good at getting to the line
and overall, he’s about average
that’s actually better than almost everyone we currently have
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blech
Career 42% fg shooter and only average over 1.1 stls per game once in his career. No reason to sign him and take away minutes from Jenkins who needs minutes to develop or Klay.
Also, why would he even sign with us? He sees himself as a starter, not someone who is backing up Curry and Monta. With those 2 guys starting, not a whole lot of minutes for a backup.
great....
Another combo guard, they work out well for what team now? Sorry dude he’s good but its not a good fit for the team.
by blacksamurai33 on Dec 9, 2011 11:53 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
get Luc Mbah a Moute and Hayes
Since we will be playing D this year, right? right?
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Dec 9, 2011 10:42 AM PST reply actions
+1
all this talk about signing defensive minded players, and we havent heard a single rumor regarding signing any role players to this team
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Well
We do kind of need a starting Center still.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Jordan for 10. Can we talk numbers?
I wish the beat reporters would do a bit more analysis for us on the realities of our cap situation. If anyone out there can breakdown what we’re actually looking at, I would be eternally grateful.
My understanding is that we’ve got about 6 available to spend (not sure if that includes cap hold for Reggie). So it seems like they must be considering amnestying Bell to make the offer to Jordan. My question is… does this indeed put in the range to make an offer starting around 10? If it does add up, seems a bit risky to use up the amnesty on Bell with the chance we loose out on Jordan in the end.
Obviously we could amnesty Beidrins and have plenty of cap space but that would be beyond stupid given that we would be completely up a creek if the Clips matched.
"To be a great champion you must believe you are the best. If you're not, pretend you are." - Muhammad Ali
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure we can negotiate with players and then amnesty after an agreement is verbally agreed to. Which is the reason why we offered Tyson Chandler 58mil/4years or whatever without needing to amnesty Biedrins just yet. They probably wouldve amnestied him if Chandler agreed. Thank god he didnt, 14mil a year is all star type money!
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
the problem with Jordan though...
is that whole RFA thing. getting a verbal commitment from Jordan is one thing. getting screwed by a Clipper match is another.
"To be a great champion you must believe you are the best. If you're not, pretend you are." - Muhammad Ali
I don't think we "get screwed" by a Clipper match at all.
Quite the opposite. I’d call it a blessing. We’d be screwing a team in our conference by forcing them to overpay one of their players.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
I think getting screwed would be using up the amnesty without signing a player
I’m not sure exactly the RFA works but i would assume that the Warriors would have to amnesty Bell before Jordan could sign an offer sheet. If the Clippers then matched the offer then the Warriors would have used their amnesty to get rid of an expiring deal. If the Warriors don’t need the cap space right away to sign a player then using the Amnesty on Bell would be a waste.
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by Evanz on Dec 9, 2011 10:52 AM PST reply actions 28 recs
beautiful
I’m actually considering building a bunch of phantom email accounts and registering them all at GSoM, just so I can rec this a million times
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 9, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
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by Evanz on Dec 9, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Bass traded for Big Baby
strange…aren’t they like, the same guy?
something tells me Bass is much better
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
Dwight Howard told them to trade for Glen Davis
clearly the only reason they did that
Clearly, Dwight’s talent assessment <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dwight’s talent.
There will be no extra point!
How is Otis Smith considered a good GM?
When Dwight leaves he has no one to blame but himself.
Bass is much better. Magic got rocked.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
Bah
At least take a shot at Gasol before Jordan?
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
dayum
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 9, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
How about amnesty Lee and do absolutely nothing in Free Agency.
Then we’ll suck our way (no homo) into a top seven pick next year and rebuild from there.
That idea blows (I’m not homophobic).
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
If i am lacob, which i am not
i would totally in all ways, try and get big name stars now. Yes, i have said we should wait until 2012. But as of now, with these big stars going to lakers and nets, possibly, we are going to be stuck AGAIN with mediocre players in 2012. We need to take a shot at DWIGHT now rather than later because of what is going down around the league.
I am seriously depressed by the warriors news of going after Jordan to be honest. We need to go for someone like Marc Gasol, someone proven, not a project. We have plenty of projects already.
curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.
DUBS MAKING MOVES!
2:06 pm: Golden State, after losing out on Tyson Chandler, is going to make an offer to Clippers restricted free agent DeAndre Jordan for around $10 million a year, reports Yahoo. The Clippers really want to bring back Jordan, but that price may be too rich for their blood.
by StephCurry4President on Dec 9, 2011 11:14 AM PST reply actions
at 10 mil per year, we could just amnesty Bell and keep Biedrins as a backup and potential trade bait in the future.
by StephCurry4President on Dec 9, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Well
Bell isn’t exactly making himself look very good right now anyways. lol
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Well
If he gets 6 months jail time, you can then void. DUI itself isn’t enough.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Depends
Jail time for breaking the law? or jail time so we Warriors can get rid of him? :P
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Jail time for the sole purpose of the Warriors voiding his contract, of course! There is no moral conciseness in the cut throat business of professional sports!
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i hope he will be like. yo guys i got a problem. i will be in rehab.
i mean come on you’re going to go to a court trial for DUI and you get there DRUNK? wow.
curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.
by bimmercirem3 on Dec 9, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
It boggles the mind
Was he partying all night then realized he needed to be in court?
by Critical Roach on Dec 9, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Clearly the man needs help
I am not going to wish ill on him – but if his contract were to be voided, then we’d have money to sign Jordan for 10 per without having to amnesty anyone. Then, we can see how well these pieces gel, and use the amnesty clause down the road. Also, if we can keep Goose and he is a solid backup center (abeit a pricey one) we can trade Udoh and Monta down the road if need be.
I’m just saying.
by Togna Balogna on Dec 9, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
10 mil a year
just to Piss off Blake then hopefully Blake will follow suit. It was know they are BFF
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
mykelala01 is like the bouncer with the red rope for GSOM. You’re good to come in now.
by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT
Turiaf
anyone?
If the Knicks signing Chandler means they need Turiaf to send to other team.
He can be a great cheerleader.
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
mykelala01 is like the bouncer with the red rope for GSOM. You’re good to come in now.
by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT
Be a great 3rd back up center behind udoh, biedrins, but we would have to pick up his contract since Knicks trying to dump it to make room for Chandler.
by StephCurry4President on Dec 9, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
waive Bell
for misconduct and wasting space on the bench. Then sign Turiaf. How much Turiaf left in his contract maybe like 4 mill. And gonna be free agent for next year.
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
mykelala01 is like the bouncer with the red rope for GSOM. You’re good to come in now.
by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT
Waiving a player still counts towards the cap?
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, unless a team picks up the rest of his contract.
by StephCurry4President on Dec 9, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Ah okay
I doubt any team would pick up Bell though :/
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Heard the heat may sign him, that may be a pretty good fit for baron at this stage of his career
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
As excited as I was when the Warriors were in play for CP3...
…now I don’t think he should come. He obviously won’t want to be here in the Bay and the media frenzy around him will be ridiculous. Just let him go to the Lakers – I can’t say I blame him necessarily. He’s not going to want to be anywhere else.
From a GSW fan standpoint, the NBA is boring as all hell. I know this is hard for Lakers fans to understand, but not everybody is all that interested in watching the Lakers’ Annual Championship run. I just read that of the 51 season the Lakers have been in LA, they’ve missed the playoffs 4 times. That’s right: the Lakers have missed the playoffs 4 times in 51 years.
In all honesty, I feel a bit stupid for having been a fan for this long. The Warriors and their fans are consistently watching their best players go elsewhere. Seriously; what is the point of being a fan?
And now that we finally have a great backcourt, all people can say is we need to break them up. In a trade for a guy who won’t even sign an extension? Who obviously would rather be playing in LA? Don’t bother going after Chris Paul again. Horrible move.
I enjoy the game, but I think any sentiment of the word “fan” is gone. I’m honestly just tired of the same thing year after year. Wake me up in a few years when the whole CBA “balance” thing kicks in.
by MikeAucksbigg on Dec 9, 2011 11:43 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
"Seriously; what is the point of being a fan?"
I ask myself this question all the time… and I feel cursed by a) growing up in the Bay Area and b) just starting to follow the NBA as a kid around Run TMC time…
Hard to let go of the hometown team…
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
Seriously; what is the point of being a fan?
So our complaints are more justified. I’d say it’s quid pro quo.
@DoctorKajita
by Doctor Kajita on Dec 9, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I’m with you on this. I don’t understand as a fan why anyone would want to trade for a player that doesn’t want to play for your team.
Over
by cybermaldonado on Dec 9, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
Trade Monta for Iggy
After Jordan agrees of course.
Sign BD to backup Masala. BRING BACK THE BEARD.
Curry/BD
Iggy/Klay
Wright/Thornton
Lee/Udoh
Jordan/Beans’ ghost
Could that lineup win a title? Yes, in the WNBA. But who the fuck cares? Would that lineup be fun to watch? Hell yes. And they would make the playoffs, and maybe make a little noise.
Also, man, I’m a fan of the NBA. I hate the lakers, but I would’ve liked to see that CP3 deal happen. I mean, I would’ve preferred to see him here with D12, but that wasn’t going to happen.
And complaining about the Warriors sucking then getting excited when they almost kinda don’t is one of my favorite NBA traditions.
by Mullin's Flattop on Dec 9, 2011 11:50 AM PST reply actions
I’d also try to sign Mbah A Moute rather than bring back Thorton, and try to get Stuckey over Baron
Curry/Stuckey
Iggy/Thompson
Wright/A Moute
Lee/Udoh
Jordan/Beans
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
We’d be good defensively, with those moves. I’m not sure I’d know how to feel about that.
by Mullin's Flattop on Dec 9, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
All this talk about "defense" and I haven’t seen any results in terms of even RUMORS of who we’re going to be signing!
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
im a warrior fan im always going be a warrior fan
by Yo mama is a warrior fan on Dec 9, 2011 11:50 AM PST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
THIS
complete faith, complete blind and utter faith! LGW!
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
its not faith, its loyalty
I’ll always be a warriors fan, but that doesn’t necessarily mean i have faith they will turn it around soon.
All this talk about “defense” and I haven’t seen any results in terms of even RUMORS of who we’re going to be signing!
by JustSomeName on Dec 9, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
iggy sucks
If we get him the only scorer on our team will be wright.
by Yo mama is a warrior fan on Dec 9, 2011 11:52 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Worst post? Iguodala is the best individual perimeter defender in the league. He’s a very good passer and a passable scorer.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
I feel very sorry for Brandon Roy
He was an exciting player to watch. I hope he does well in life, whatever he chooses to do next. It’s a shame that exciting young players sometimes have their careers cut short by injuries.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 9, 2011 11:52 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
One of the best college performances I've ever seen remains B-Roy vs Gonzaga and Adam Morrison at UW
I’ve never seen a player completely take over and control a game to that extent…and really he did it every game.
He will be missed…
Blazer’s Edge doing a great job reminiscing…
Twitter: @NateP_SBN.
Yes
I will miss him. Today is a sad day for basketball, even though training camps have started.
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 9, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Sad to see a former teammate go out like that.
He had so much ability.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
Sad to see a player of his talent have to retire due to injury like this, at such a young age too! He was destined for some great things in Portland
What I’m not sad about is having to face him in 2K12, alot of my friends loved to put out a lineup of: Roy/Batum/Wallace/Aldridge/Camby. That squad was really cheap and were killers, tall as hell, and everyone could dunk, shoot 3s, and defend.
SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Kings signed forward-center Chuck Hayes to a four-year, $21.3 million deal mirroring full mid-level exception, source tells Y! Hayes in Sac.
extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 9, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Kings have some nice front court depth.
@DoctorKajita
by Doctor Kajita on Dec 9, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
what a deal
5.5M for that level of production is exceptional value. Wow. Good for the Kings.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Wow
we got blind sided by the King. While our front office busy chasing for Chandler/Paul and Jordan. King sign a great player.
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
mykelala01 is like the bouncer with the red rope for GSOM. You’re good to come in now.
by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT
Actually
The Kings have been chasing Chuck Hayes for a while.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 9, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Then they did a good job
on Chasing
But the Warriors we are like Willie Cayote chasing Road Runner
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
mykelala01 is like the bouncer with the red rope for GSOM. You’re good to come in now.
by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT
In other news
We won’t have to worry about the Lakers, Hornets and Rockets competing for a playoffs spot. David Stern just single-handedly destroyed their team chemistry.
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 9, 2011 12:04 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
The Kings got so much Front Court depth right now, Hayes, Cousins, Hickson, Thompson. We shouild trade for Hickson or thompson imo.
by StephCurry4President on Dec 9, 2011 12:12 PM PST reply actions
Hickson might be the worst player in the NBA getting regular minutes.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Thompson is probably the more likely option.
They just gave up Caspi and a first rounder for Hickson. They probably want to see what he can do before they even think about trading him.
So the Howard to Nets deal is off the table?
The Nets are reportedly close to signing Nene. I guess that means the Lakers are back in play for Howard, which completely sucks. Maybe the Warriors can put a deal together for Lopez if he is available.
Hes an offensive center/power forward.
by StephCurry4President on Dec 9, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
he could still play alongside Lopez or Dwight cuz he can play PF
by lameallenmark on Dec 9, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
My only problem with D. Jordan is NBA 2k12
the dude is only a 69 with a one star trade value and no potential!
Now in real life we know this isn’t true, but how will i ever be able to trade a 69 overall 1 star at 10 mill a year…. Ill be doomed!!!!
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He was playing with Blake, who commands a lot of attention, so his numbers are probably a bit inflated.
Not exactly real talk… I’m talking about the Video game. Im fine with him in Real life
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by 4Ever Golden on Dec 9, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think NBA 2K12 is very far off from reality in this instance.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I think he’s better then beans right now, Other then that i don’t feel he’s worth 10 mil. I’d say 6. IMO you don’t pay potential. You pay proven talent.
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by 4Ever Golden on Dec 9, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
His potential should at least be 3 stars
And when updates come in I bet he’s above a 70
RIP Al Davis
Yeah he definitely needs more potential and at least some trade value.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
the dude is only a 69 with a one star trade value and no potential!
Sounds about right.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Nope
The Kardashian effect. He got divorced and he’ll be out of sync for the rest of the year.
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 9, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Chauncey Billups is also going to be amnestied
He’s pissed, considering retiring. That’s crazy!!
Billups on W's?
I doubt he’d want to play here since he’s only got a couple years left, but wouldn’t mind having him on the team to back up Curry for 20minutes a night
He’d look really nice next to Durant and Westbrook this season…
by Uwe Blog on Dec 9, 2011 9:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Chuck Hayes is officially taken
by the Kings, 4-years, 21 mil
Hay gaiz
GILBERT ARENAS CAN MAKE HIS HOMECOMING TO OAKLAND AND IF WE SIGN J-RICH AND TRADE FOR ANTAWN JAMISON IT WOULD BE LIKE THE GOOD OLD TIMES!!!! hah
Hey if we cant win might as well make the fans happy….. j rich, and gilbert!!!! maybe ab will have a flash back!
Would it be a great time out?
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
It's Warriors basketball.
Do you even need to ask?
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Well technically chandler hasn't put pen to paper yet
So if we do pull Paul out, we can jump back at him.
RFA NO-WIN
Trying to lure away a restricted free agent is a lose-lose proposition.
If we underbid or offer close to what he’s worth, Clippers match anyway and we’ve wasted our time and resources.
If we overbid, Clippers don’t match and we overpay for an unproven center.
Nobody in the league knows more about what D. Jordan is worth than the Los Angeles Clippers. If he was really worth what we’re willing to pay him, they’re not going to let him go.
"We Deserve"
by YaHeard on Dec 9, 2011 1:34 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Well someone will overpay
We either cripple LAC’s salary or slightly overpay for a young starter
RIP Al Davis
How is it "crippling" if they pay him but only a "slight overpay" if we do?
You can’t have your cake and eat it, too.
by Ronaldinho on Dec 9, 2011 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nobody knows better than Clippers? I disagree. I would say that his former agent Bob Meyers knows better. And he is our current asst. gm.
by friscohoya on Dec 9, 2011 4:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Jordan would be another lateral move
the new regime wants to appear to be in an aggressive acquisition mode. it’s only a maybe for Jordan, in terms of him becoming a solid starting 5 — with his limited offense and lousy foul shooting he’s better in specific situations and combinations. people here are skeptical that Udoh can improve, but if they want an offensively limited center like Jordan, they should hope to see Udoh’s shooting and scoring get better, or have ø two way players at the 4/5.
a more cost effective move would be adding a smart veteran two-way player at around the mid-level — presently the team has only Wright for a vet ‘glue guy’. that’s a big reason he got heavy minutes under Smart. Malone will need more than a shot blocking 5 to significantly improve the d.
Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)
Too bad Hayes is off the table
He’s exactly the player you’re describing that could be had for MLE type salary
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Name names!
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
FYI
The training camp stream is supposed to start right now. Waiting for it to start on ustream.
Wow
The Rockets, Hornets and Lakers are still trying to complete a deal.
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
“Samuel Dalembert on Golden State: "I am definitely interested in Golden State. We’ll see what happens.’’ – @christomasson
@DoctorKajita
by Doctor Kajita on Dec 9, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind Dalembert as backup. He’s a good defender.
@DoctorKajita
by Doctor Kajita on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Word is he wants more than the full MLE.
Would be pretty pricey for a backup.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Not interested.
I wish we could have had him a decade ago…
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Keep it moving Samuel
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by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
No
Dalembert is basically the epitome of an average center
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
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Sit back and just use the MLE
Tank season and draft well.
"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum
Please, no Dalembert
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
Why not?
IIRC, you wanted a full-sized center who rebounds and plays D. Dalembert (7’0" 250) meets all these criteria. He’s not even as old as I thought (30). Plus, he seems to want to play here. I’d love to have him if we can get him on the cheap. I wonder if he and Iguodala are BFFs…?
There will be no extra point!
Maybe if we can't get Jordan
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by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
+1.7 RAPM for Sam
vs. Jordan’s -4.4
Sadly, he’s still no Chuck Hayes.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
I cant believe...
That people still want under sized forwards. We have played that way for years. Nellie ball is over. Please name one championship team with a 6’8" center not named Russel that has one it all.
I would take Dalambert if we cant get Jordan. And I would probably start him over Beans and just hope that Tyler finds himself.
Please name one championship team with a 6’8" center not named Russel that has one it all.
Detroit.
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(good he didn't ask for 2)
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phew
(His son was in my class in college.)
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1975 Championship Warriors, baby
Cliff Ray was listed at 6’9", but that’s probably inflated an inch ;-)
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Cowens was also boosted an inch at a so-called 6'9
and we should not forget the inimitable Willis Reed, actually listed at 6’8 i.i.r.c.
most of these ‘shorter’ centers could put the ball on the floor and pass better than their taller peers.
Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)
Dammit!
That was easy. Should have asked for two. If you can go find another 6’8" defensive player of the year to play center I’m in. Until then DJ is worth 10 and is better than Beans. Everyone was happy when we got “smart basketball minds” in the building. Now everyone is second guessing them. Meyers was DJ’s agent. Our asst. GM knows more about this guys value than most.
Yes, because everyone has the same opinions all the time.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 9, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
Until then DJ is worth 10 and is better than Beans.
Chuck Hayes is a better defensive center than DJ is. I don’t care if he’s only 6’6".
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Basketball is so much more about position and spacing than most people care to admit, especially in the post. Since 75% of the centers in the league can’t shoot past 5’, you don’t need to block their shots if you can just keep the 6’ out.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 9, 2011 9:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hayes is actually only 6'6"
and only costs $5M.
But, his height is inconsequential. He has proven that he can play Center in the NBA. And, he’s a better defender than Jordan all day, and it’s not even close.
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, bring him in.
assuming the clips match dj’s offer
Jeremy LIn was just waived....
…. poor kid, hard worker. I hope he gets another shot somewhere. I still think he could be a useful backup.
I’m still chanting for Jiri Welsch…
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
I guess Jenkins must have really made an impression
by JoesBurlyCurls on Dec 9, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
after one practice
Jackson: “Sign that kid from New York. Waive that Asian guy with no jumpshot.”
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
He's been working on his J
I spoke his with his shooting coach. He said it improved a lot.
Damn, that sucks…on day 1 of camp.
Why would the Warriors do that at this time?
It’d be nice if they are getting ready to make a move of some kind. (His contract’s small but maybe they are trying to free up as much money as possible).
by WestCoastWarrior on Dec 9, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
I think youre on to something
This is a sign of hopefully positive action
He was never more than good marketing...
Now that the team might be good we dont need no stinkin gimmicks!
He was a scrappy defender with decent length for his position as back up PG. He was great at penetrating and ball handling as well, not to mention that his composure was fantastic for a rookie. If it were not for his weak jumper, he would have been a solid player.
I'm the soul brotha' like no other!
so much for a new focus on defense
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BREAKING NEWS
Greg Oden is injured. Probably out for season.
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Yeah. Looks like Portland pulled the QO.
Signed him to a lesser deal.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Warriors Preparing Offer Sheet for DeAndre Jordan
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the worst part?
that we might waive Bell, not Biedrins
ugh
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I'd actually rather not amnesty Beans.
Dead cat bounce, etc.
(also secret hope that Lee gets amnestied).
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
even so
if we use it on Bell, that’s it.
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Well yeah.
Using it on Bell would be pants-on-head stupid.
And par for the course for this team, unfortunately.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 9, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
I agree. Not too hard to imagine either. Scary.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
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The problem is -
If we need to amnesty someone to make an offer for Jordan, and we amnesty Biedrins and then the Clippers match, we’re screwed. We’ve given up the hope that Biedrins might gain some value for absolutely nothing.
Pretty sure that would happen...
Until after Clips make decision.
We’ve given up the hope that Biedrins might gain some value for absolutely nothing.
At this point, betting on Biedrins to regain value is about as hopeful as betting on Oden to regain his health.
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Big Gulp
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Double Big Gulp
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Hope you're not holding your breath...
…. Clips will likely take all 3 days to decide.
by warriorsablaze on Dec 9, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
Dear Donald Sterling,
Please match the Golden Stat Warriors offer for promising Center, Deandre Jordan for all the reasons some have listed on our blog site, GSOM:
Allow me to remind you that he’s tall, athletic, and “physical”. He’s also able to “block good”, which we both know is the only defensive stat that matters, and “dunk good” which is all that matters to get exposure on SportsCenter, despite a loss. He’s also “physical” and apparently scares people from approaching the paint. Please pay no attention to his atrocious +/- stats, or any advanced stats at all for that matter. We all know those are for nerds and they lie. What truly matters is that we’ve watched a total of 6 of his games against us and he was able to shred our fantastic defense, which is quite a lofty feat.
Whatever the Warriors offer, please match it without hesitation. After all, he’s Blake’s best friend. I don’t think you’ll like Blake when he’s angry…
Thank you,
Warriors Fans
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
co-signed
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wait a minute
“Any advanced stats at all?” http://wagesofwins.com/2011/07/12/just-desserts-ranking-every-player-for-2011/
Win shares has him as producing a fair amount of wins. He’s also young, so he will improve and is a great locker room guy. Certainly better than Biedrins – 10 million a year is about right.
Yes! Sign it “Clippers Fans” though.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 9, 2011 9:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Awesome...yeah, instead of trying to improve our frontcourt
Let’s just roll with the same undersized and/or mentally soft (Andris) crew.
In fact, let’s just keep banging our head against the same wall like we have for the last several. This yr is different! Smart
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by SmittytheCutman on Dec 9, 2011 10:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It's pretty clear that the team *has* been TRYING to improve the frontcourt.
They just haven’t been successful at it yet.
"+1"
Physicality, shot blocking, and the ability to finish above the rim are real phenomena. You have entered the realm of unnecessary quotes. Essentially, you’ve found a way to make three paragraphs of copy about the fact that you don’t think he has upside.
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
What is the interest level in JLin
I would assume it’s not all that high. Any chance that he would could re-sign him after our pursuit of Jordan ends in failure?
HARBAUGH FOR PRESIDENT 2012
NINERS SUPERBOWL OR BUST
FREDERICK P. SOFT NOWHERE TO BE FOUND
D-league?
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You know when the only other team going after a guy is Toronto, you might want to think twice about it
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DJ's career FT%
is …. wait for it … 97 points worse than Biedrins’.
(DJ .414, AB .511).
There will be no extra point!
Watch us pay Deandre Jordan $10 and Biedrins returns to form
Well, guess that’s not a bad problem to have really….lol
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by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
MTII on DJ Signing:
It seems to be unanimous that DeAndre Jordan will be drastically overpaid at $10M. Same song no matter who I talk to #everybodyaintwrong
http://twitter.com/#!/gswscribe/status/145320322130915329
by Lacob's Ladder on Dec 9, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
if we can get DJ for $10 I'm all in
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Ahem
Forgot the “M” there.
Watch us get Jordan for $10M :D
extrabaggs
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by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
Im all in aswell. He’s a poor man’s Dwight Howard. Get him. If Biedrins get his mind right 1 of them can be traded, DJ is only gonna get better.
lol poor mans D12?
@ 10+ mil a year hes not cheap and hes not even 1/2 the player howard is
Haters Gonna Hate
He’s only gonna get better.
I can name centers where this statement didn’t work out. Is that good enough?
Name some that were athletic as he is, old as he is that fell off or gotten worse while in the league without a injury being the reason.
there's one on our team
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sure he was
maybe you missed a few seasons
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Man, he was all sorts of mobile. He might not have had the same vertical athleticism that DJ has, but he was arguably quicker on the court.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
then we would have two sold big man
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by ayeyoJERM on Dec 9, 2011 6:40 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
hahaha cant say im surprised.
OOH maybe sign Deandre Jordan, Biedrins shows up to practice and sees Jordan missing free throws repeatedly… his eyes start to glow and gains so much confidence suddenly shoots free throws like David Lee.
7
Shoots free throws like David Lee?
Try shoots free throws like Steph Curry while averaging 20pts 10rebs! We Believe: Biedrins edition
Aaaaaaarrggg
Wow, I’m not at all excited about this
Looks like we are basically hoping for good biedrens v2
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Dec 9, 2011 6:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Looks more like a longer Adonal Foyle!
Ugh… dont waste money on him…
by Slapa d bass man on Dec 10, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Deandre Jordan is not a good idea
I have a bad feeling about this offer
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Yup
Some of us have been saying it all along, overpay for an unsure thing
overpay for an unsure thing
I’m pretty sure he’s not that good.
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Beans quote
"Obviously I didn’t play my game the last two seasons and I don’t blame them if they start looking for another guy, because I was not really great the past two seasons," Biedrins said.
"That’s the way the business is and there’s nothing you can do about it, just come back and play strong and prove to them again that you’re worth where you are right now…
"The last two years were horrible for me. I know that. Everybody knows that. So now’s the time to prove it back."
Lets hope something does change
How much is left on his contract?
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Maybe 3rd times the charm?
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by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
Only hope is better defense
He has to no longer do everything around the basket, and that helps his game and confidence (and foul trouble)
But who knows?
Deandre Jordan would be a great fit. He can do all the things Chandler does except make free throws. Were not getting a Center without overpaying. 10 mill for a starting 5 sounds about right.
Not if his foul rate prevents him from getting starter minutes. If a dude is making $10 M a year, I expect that dude to be the starter and get all the minutes associated with that.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
Late to the party but here's what i got
Chandler: isn’t worth that much money. He’s injury prone and he’s getting old. He’s not a building block, so why add him to a young growing team?
DeAndre Jordan is not worth the money either. I hope the clippers match. I can not handle another center that can’t make free throws.
Marc Gasol: if your going to throw big money at a center, make it Marc Gasol. He’s young, very skilled, unselfish and getting better. He’d be a perfect fit on this team if you intend to continue with our young core.
Dalembert: Not going to sell extra tickets but at the right price would be a good addition to this team and allow us to have two 7 foot centers. Together they’re contracts are more manageable and would give us a good one, two punch combo.
Monta Ellis: Love him but it’s time to trade him. The easiest position to find scoring, IS AT THAT SCORING GUARD. Trade him to Memphis for Rudy Gay. He has gotten better every year and is still young. If you like Dorrel Wright alley oops from Stephen Curry, Rudy Gay will be even better. Any time you have a chance to trade a smaller guy for a bigger guy, who is better, you have to do it. Then go find a defensively skilled 2 guard.
For those of you that don’t get it, Memphis needs the money to keep Marc Gasol. Plus they beat the Spurs who where the #1 team without him, almost got past OKC too (went to game 7). Monta is from Memphis, he’s cheaper and he replaces some of that star appeal/ scoring. It makes sense for both teams.
If we believe in Steph Curry and we’re not willing to tade him for CP3, than it’s time to build around him. Rudy Gay is a building block. Monta, Chandler, DeAndre Jordan are not.
by Balance on Dec 9, 2011 7:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Sounds about right.
You forgot “New ownership desperately throwing contract offers out to whoever”.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 9, 2011 7:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
how bout no trade and we get gasol
ill take that over trading ellis and not getting gasol
Haters Gonna Hate
I’d take that too but, i don’t think there’s anyway they don’t match an offer for Gasol. However, who cares? At least it makes them break the bank and after they do, then they’re desperate to move Gay. That’s when we strike.
This is what I'd like to see
Offer Marc Gasol a max, if Memphis matches, open up talks about Gay for Monta.
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by Badly Browned on Dec 9, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Here’s a sweet Rudy Gay mix if your not convinced.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu8v8e9RW3w
jesus christ
Gay is so long and athletic, oh my god some of those plays.
nohomo
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Yes..
Lets trade Monta for Rudy Gay because we like alley-oops. Let’s ignore Rudy Gay’s ridiculous contract, lack of defense and inability to do anything except shoot long jumpers and dunk.
double standard
To jump all over Jordan because he is a highlight reel player than say lets get Rudy Gay!
Rudy Gay is a reasonably good defender, or at least has evolved into one. Better at offense than Monta, too.
However, he does make far too much money. While he would offer a ton of immediate improvement over Monta, he wouldn’t help us out for the long term.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
As much as I agree with you on what you said on Monta......
I dont trust a 3rd year PG, who’s defense is not their yet to be the face of the franchise
Basically I dont trust Curry yet on defense right now, if he shows me/ us something, then yes
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But you expect a 5th year, ballhogging, undersized, anti-defense scoring guard to be the face of the franchise? It makes more sense to have the actual good player be your “face” than the one who isn’t.
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by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Monta wont make us a consistent playoff team. It would be more like every 1-3 years we get into the playoffs
Its frustrating the situation we have
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Yeah, he has. Going into his 7th.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
i thought
monta was from Jackson, Mississippi?
by itsAteamGAME on Dec 9, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
Vlad signing with Atlanta
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Nooooooooooooo!
Remember that time he dunked? He will be missed…
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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Dwight Howard given permission to talk to 3 teams...
Nets are one of the teams. Not sure who the other 2 are, but even if we were one of them, it’d be hard to compete against the Nets for him.
We need to keep an eye on the waiver wire for the right free agents to pop up there. We should quit looking for these “final piece” type of players, because we don’t have a good core. Good value guys (like Dorell). Guys that will contribute while we go through a true rebuild.
Joe Lacob, please do a rebuild! You did not buy a mansion! You bought a broken down crackhouse! The only way to right the wrongs of the previous tenants is to tear it down and build from scratch!!!
I’ve been a very loyal fan since ‘85 or so, and that doesn’t make me unique. The best thing you get with owning the Warriors is a very dedicated fan base. You CAN rebuild, and we WILL support the team while you do! Just admit that we need it, and do it!
by Uwe Blog on Dec 9, 2011 10:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I agree whole heartedly with that last paragraph. LGW!
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The thing is we have one very valuable piece in Stephen Curry
I have contended since the end of the season before last we should have started to build around Curry. Instead the front office was able to land Lee(which I contend was a good move considering the value going both directions) The issue is that Ellis/Biedrins two Warriors from the former regime were not sent off for expiring or for players that explicitly matched well with Curry’s play style. If we were able to simply get expiring contracts for Ellis we would be in a better position this off-season and next to very carefully improve the team. Instead we are putting out an unbalanced team. Year after year we have talent but refuse to build a team that has the proper components to win. By proper components I mean a regularly sized back court and a team with a proper center.
I also think it was kind of a mistake to let Nelson go, why not have him coach last year it would have been interesting to see what he could do with that team. Now we’ve had 3 coaches in 3 years. Why not make these transitions more smoothly for the sake of better organizational and team improvement.
My criticism of the front office is that they act desperately at all the wrong times and are patient also at all the wrong times(it seems.) They should have given up at getting equal value for Ellis and they should have traded Biedrins long ago, that is my opinion.
by brutusbrutus on Dec 10, 2011 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Then you and I see eye-to-eye on a number of Warriors issues, and have for quite some time. I didn’t see the logic of going forward with Monta after Steph’s rookie season, didn’t like the Lee acquisition, and hated the Nellie firing and subsequent Smart hiring.
This team has always shown a resistance to rebuild, and rushes the process IMO. When we get one rookie who looks like he’s going to be damn good, we start signing the most expensive players that we think we can afford, and immediately improve just enough to make sure we can’t draft another premier rookie.
I’m a firm believer that most teams can’t build through free agency. Cores need to be drafted, and need to develop together. If you have an expensive team and still wind up with a #7 pick, you’re doing it all wrong. If that happens, you should set your sights on at least two more top 5 picks. If they play significant minutes and one/two/three of them are big men, you can expect the development process to be slow, assuring you the opportunity to draft highly again.
Once you’ve drafted 3-4 high (top five) lottery picks, then you start looking for those free agents…
Three years of a true rebuild would test my patience far less than this “win-now” mentality that we keep seeing. I’ve been an avid fan through 3 ownership groups now, and I can’t recall our team ever taking this approach. It frustrates me more than I could possibly express.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 10, 2011 6:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I dont think the FO trusts Curry to stick around after his rookie contract is up losing too many games thus hurting his value.
by Xtremelink on Dec 10, 2011 2:49 AM PST via mobile reply actions
And if the warriors hurt currys value, that will leave the door open to a large market or his hometown.
by Xtremelink on Dec 10, 2011 2:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
must sign jordan , and we must find out what the clippers salary cap is right now.
what about 6yr ~54 million to jordan or a 6 yr 60 million deal and maybe the clips cant match it and we have jordan,. warriors will release bell also and if they sign jordan then use beans as an amemsty player ot be released then sign out 1st round pick! any better ideas on jordan?
by sports with steve on Dec 10, 2011 12:24 PM PST reply actions
And why would you want to anyway…
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
A couple of thoughts
1) Obviously they shouldn’t over-pay for Jordan, that statement applies to every player in the league.
2) There are 48 minutes in a game. Throw in the pf spot and your bigs have to cover 96 minutes/game. In whatever combination 96/3 = 32 minutes per game which is a lot to ask of Lee, Udoh and either Biedrins or Jordan. 96/4 is 24 min/g and that’s a more realistic average (not that they’d all play exactly 24/g maybe Lee plays more and Udoh a little less but you get the idea). At a reasonable price I don’t think a Biedrins/Jordan tandem at the 5 is bad, in fact I think it’s pretty formidable.
3) I’m actually a little more concerned about backcourt depth. I know this is a shortened season but Monta and Steph can’t be expected to play 40 min/g, we need to get them down to around 30 or ideally 28 or they’re just going to break down.
except that our backups are terrible.
last year, when steph and monta were out of the game, we couldnt score the basketball, AND couldnt play defense because acie law and reggie were no good either
maybe some games 28 minutes is good, but id have to believe curry needs to play over 30 most games. we cant trust jenkins with 20 minutes a night just yet
reggie could score just fine
Plus our D wasn’t good even with the starters
Why is it that I am getting a sinking feeling about our dealing capabilities?
I have not felt this bad since we hired yet another novice coach when we needed a seasoned one. I am beginning to believe that there will be yet another mediocre haul in this free-agent market for the GSW. At the end of last season, I felt we needed a seasoned coach, a major center, and ….for Reggie to start! Looks like none if will come to pass! Should be a great mediocre year ahead (again)….Oh, well, we did get Jerry West…..
thank goodness Dwight wants to go to the Nets
so much better than the Lakers. And I think I would actually enjoy watching Dwight team up with Deron Williams.
At this point I feel like we either have to
trade for a good defensive wing and sign Dalembert(or some sort of defensive minded Center) or trade Biedrins/Ellis/Lee(not all three but at least 2 of the 3) for expiring contracts and make this upcoming year simply a mediocre year that allows us to sign someone for the max.
We will not have a draft pick at the end of the season. Our team is currently probably at its very best a .500 team with our current roster. We need to either improve this off-season or free up cap room for next season. If the front office does nothing, they have done a very very bad job.
On a lighter note...
Blake Griffin Kia commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-AxWRVqE1E
I thought this was funny. (It’s the one in the salon).
Anyway, that said, who the crap is Ubiles?
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Apparently, Ubiles is a 6’6" swing man who is not well developed despite being a senior. He’s a poor rebounder, but he’s very athletic with potential to be a strong defender.
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I like the way
Blake is just casually flipping her off for the entire spot.
Have the rains let up yet?
Things would be alot more depressing without Jeremy Tyler here. There’s always the dream that he can be what we always needed.
wait, is he not going to be here now???
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Dec 10, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
he and Klay haven't signed with the team
they’re still on the training camp roster, though
they will sign it seems
This is for cap reasons I believe?
Tyler looks to be in great shape...
Chip on his shoulder too? That pick was a steal.
Edwin Ubiles is our future
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 6:12 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
apt metaphor
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I like Ubiles a lot, actually.
An intriguing college player. I enjoyed watching him at Siena. He has good length, good size, and a very solid handle for a 6’7" player. He also finished extremely well around the basket in college (definitely an NBA caliber athlete), and showed good touch on his jumper. Defense was a plus as well. I really thought he’d get drafted, honestly.
Here’s a clip that illustrates why I thought he could be an NBA player. Very fluid, skilled player who can defend his position.
by Spider Jerusalem on Dec 10, 2011 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
do you remember when Siena had the measles?
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"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."
So, now it's a waiting game if the Clips match
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by Badly Browned on Dec 10, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
they will
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Hmm
Reading the article, we would have to amnesty Bell.
Not a fan of amnesty’ing an expiring contract…ugh
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by Badly Browned on Dec 10, 2011 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
it would waste our one opportunity to correct a bigger mistake
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Yeah
I’m all for bringing in a decent Center.
But amnesty Charlie Bell is really really really dumb.
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by Badly Browned on Dec 10, 2011 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
I believe we have until Friday to amnesty a player.
by Uwe Blog on Dec 10, 2011 10:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
So we can’t do it at a later year? That sucks, because Lee is going to get insanely expensive.
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That’s certainly what I’m hoping for. If so, don’t amnesty anyone yet. Wait until Lee gets too expensive and then boot him. Andris is a lot cheaper, so we can better afford to simply let his contract expire. Not so much with Lee.
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if we make no big moves
i’d amnesty lee’s contract right when monta’s and beans’ contracts expire. we’d have ridiculous amounts of cap space.
This sucks. We can’t even get any good names in free agency.
I’m very confused why we are going after DJordan like our season depended on it. He’s gonna be life A Foyle…. great shot blocker, rebounder… but that’s it. Liability in offense.
by Slapa d bass man on Dec 10, 2011 8:28 PM PST reply actions
Clippers will match our offer
And after promising “big things,” nothing will happen. I wonder if the Warriors will get desperate and overpay for Dalenbert.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Or worse
Kwame Brown
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by Badly Browned on Dec 10, 2011 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
I'm amazed he's still in the league
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think it can get much worse than Kwam-ay
hopefully we can get Dalembert for cheap if DJ is resigned
Kwame was solid last year. There’s probably a way to get Kwame for a not awful, short term salary.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
I have a question
If DeAndre signs this offer sheet, do we have to amnesty Charlie Bell before or after he signs it? Or can we wait to see if the Clippers match?
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Fairly certain we have to wait to see if the Clips match first
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by Badly Browned on Dec 10, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Dont quote me on that thought
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by Badly Browned on Dec 10, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Lakers out of CP3 trade talks! time to swoop with ellis/klay/udoh!
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Nope
Unfortunately, if David Stern nixed that deal, there is no way he can nix a worse deal
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
I mean approve
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
the reason he nixed the other deal
is that NOH would be taking on 3 big long term contracts (3 10 Mill plus 3 year plus contracts). thats not something he wanted to do for a team he didnt own…pretty sure he just wants short contracts or young players or super talents. Ellis is more talented than all 3 and klay and udoh are young talents. i think it could go through…
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Don't kid yourself
David Stern claimed it was for “basketball reasons.” He didn’t claim that it was for monetary reasons. If he accepts any other trade that is worse he will be ripped apart.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
uhhh
leaving a team with flexability is basketball reasons.
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Read between the lines
If it was financial reasons, he could have just come out and said, “I don’t want the Hornets taking more money.” But he didn’t.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
uhhh
thats exactly what was said, and thats why they said they wanted to restructure the deal around younger talent; lakers couldn’t pull it off because they couldn’t find a viable trade partner to give them young talent…they tried to swoop on our young talent by throwing pau gasol to us but we just laughed in their face.
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Here is David Stern's statement
Since the NBA purchased the New Orleans Hornets, final responsibility for significant management decisions lies with the Commissioner’s Office in consultation with team chairman Jac Sperling. All decisions are made on the basis of what is in the best interests of the Hornets. In the case of the trade proposal that was made to the Hornets for Chris Paul, we decided, free from the influence of other NBA owners, that the team was better served with Chris in a Hornets uniform than by the outcome of the terms of that trade.
I don’t see anything in there that says he decided to block it for financial reasons. I see a meandering statement that tries to give a very vague reason as to why they blocked the deal.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
Financial reasons is what every sports writer outside of LA has been saying
And thats why the Lakers tried to restructure the deal and get more picks and young players (tried to snag our young players using Pau Gasol).
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Umm no
Writers have been lambasting David Stern for blocking the trade. And the only reason the deal was restructured was because David Stern blocked it. They needed to come up with another deal to see if David Stern would approve it, but the Lakers decided to back out.
There have been no reports of the Lakers restructuring the deal to get more picks. Our players have not even been involved. There have been reports, however, of the Lakers and Rockets having to give up more picks and young talent to the Hornets in order for Stern to approve the deal.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
EVERY tweet I have read
Has indicated that the restructuring was around getting NOH younger talent and more contract flexibility.
Lakers even tried to trade for ALL our young talent in order to get the trade to work. Curry/Udoh/Klay/Wright
They couldn’t find any suitable buyers that could get them enough young talent to pull off the trade, so they backed out
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Where did you read this?
I have heard nothing about this “Gasol for our young picks” deal.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
Marcus Thompson @gswscribe 2 hrs Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
In search of young talent to acquire Chris Paul, source says #Lakers offer Pau Gasol to the #Warriors – j.mp/vLACcr
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Hmmm
This may have been a good deal for the Warriors. Gasol is one of the best PF/Cs in the NBA. He’d give us a post up presence, and he can defend. I’d be willing to give up some players (not Curry though). Did you hear anything about the details of the possible trade?
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
the deal would have involved curry. so really bad deal
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Curry/Udoh/Klay/Wright
warriors laughed at the trade and declined
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I would have liked it
If the Warriors, instead of laughing at the deal, tried to negotiate. They know the Lakers are desperate.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Howard to LA within next 2 days..
yep, just like I said that.
and then they sign Billups
and it’s a wrap.
Kobe 6th and 7th
Lebron and Wade crying.
oh how i wish that wont happen. Kobe is good and all. but I hate the lakers to my core.
Sucks for kobe but i really hope another team like Dallas or Chicago takes it all. Not the fakers or 4th quarter breakdowns.
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by bimmercirem3 on Dec 10, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
and then they sign Billups
That would be scary. L.A. is for douche bags. Bottom line.
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Billups really sucks though
Takes too many shots for a PG. He’s also old.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
He played an integral part in making the Nuggets winners. He’s a HUGE upgrade for the Lakers at PG.
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Anyone is an upgrade over Derek Fisher
But Chauncey Billups is not a “huge” upgrade. He can pass, but he cannot shoot now, and he still takes too many shots. We all know Kobe takes a lot of shots. Billups was unafraid to take shots even with Carmelo on the team. He and Kobe will eat up a lot of possessions inefficiently.
Which is why I want the Lakers to sign him.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
In the triangle, he won’t have a ton of touches, but when he does touch the ball, he’s a proven winner. Not perfect, but as I said, he’s a big upgrade.
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by WarriorForLife on Dec 11, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
He’s old, but he is really efficient. He’d be the 3rd option on that team and that’s a fine role for him. Maybe he goes to Miami, though. He did mention that he wants to get a chance to take out the Knicks in the playoffs, so Miami seems like the more natural choice.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
nope
Howard to Nets is my guess
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smokescreen
Buss knows something we don’t.
CP3 for Ellis/Klay/Udoh Lets GO.
Thats the only trade that actually may be the best for the Hornets. Still get youth and a pretty damn good player in Ellis.
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@ESPNSteinLine: Sources say Lakers will instead trade Lamar Odom to Dallas into Mavericks’ new trade exception
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wow
Lamar must be crying again…he got dealt dirty
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atleast hes going to play for a team that just won a championship. the luck with this guy is incredible.
i actually think hes going to do just fine with Dallas and Dallas is seriously in contention again. Lamar may get that starting time he always wanted.
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by bimmercirem3 on Dec 10, 2011 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
It seems a little suspicious
that the Lakers are trading him for a trade exception… if you know what I mean
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
damn lakers are too smart though.
they know odom is not going to play well with them anymore. so they trade him for trade exception and free up some cap space. sign howard or cp3 in the offseason. lets hope it doesnt happen
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by bimmercirem3 on Dec 10, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
Well….he’s going to be traded to a top team in the West and the defending NBA champs (not to mention one of the largest markets in the NBA). I wouldn’t be mad at all.
his wife and tv show are in la
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Yeah it definitely hurts his show, but as for his wife I don’t see why they couldn’t work things out. Khloe used to live in Miami and moved back to LA just for him. Big Booty Kim used to be able to see Kris Humphries by flying back and forth. Of all teams in the NBA, his wife should be happy he ended up Dallas. Hell, he was almost traded to New Orleans…
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Says one Western Conference executive: “The Lakers are shifting toward trying to make a Dwight Howard deal.”
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Cuban really wants Deron then..hmmm
I hope he doesnt think that Deron+Dirk can beat Kobe+Dwight
I don't think Howard will sign anywhere without a top 5 PG
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an old kobe.
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with Nazi surgeries and coming of getting swept.
I wouldn’t bet against them
teams are more than their top 2. Mavs could give up a lot and still have more talent 3-6 than the Lakers.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but I’m operating under the assumption that they’ll have to trade Pau. More appealing offers than just Bynum on the table.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Just saw this Lakers offered Gasol?
Not sure how credible. Saw this on www.rotoworld.com
The Lakers contacted the Warriors with a potential trade offer including Pau Gasol, and in exchange they asked for Stephen Curry and some combination of Dorell Wright, Klay Thompson, and Ekpe Udoh.
Curry and others would then be sent to the Hornets in the Chris Paul deal. The Warriors source leaking the report called the offer laughable, and while it’s a lot we’re not so sure it’s as laughable as that source thinks. Curry is a great player in fantasy and reality, but he has plenty of warts that we could pick at. The rest of the deal consists of question marks, even if Wright had a great year. Regardless, unless public laughing was intended to procure a better offer this sounds like a dead issue.
Source: Contra Costa Times Dec 10 – 10:22 PM
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by jpgarfunkle on Dec 10, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
wow,..LAC is frontrunner now to get CP3....
Paul and Griff would be insane…
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But if they aren't willing to offer Gordon and we are willing to offer Monta, how are they the frontrunners?
Is a Kaman, Aminu, and Bledsoe (who is now going to be out 6-8 weeks) package really better than an Ellis, Thompson, and Udoh package? Aminu might be the best piece out of the two packages, but overall I think ours might be better.
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by duballers23 on Dec 10, 2011 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
i agree, but im just telling you what the sports writers sayin
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by LostHawkGSW on Dec 10, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
To get CP3, the Clippers would have to either include Eric Gordon or the Minnesota first round pick.
The reason the Clippers package is better is that they can throw in the best 2 pieces, whether it’s Aminu+Gordon or the pick, and they offer essentially no long term salary. The problem with our trade is that Monta makes a lot of money for the future.
I heard he doesn't like music.
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by duballers23 on Dec 10, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
not really
A few days ago I would of said thats true. But the NBA has put the Hornets in a TOOOOUGH bind. If I’m any team with an interest in Chris Paul, I’m certainly no longer offering any of my top 2 or 3 to get him. Hornets will have to choose: make a crap deal and get picks and cap relief, or watch Paul walk in 66 games. And based off the trade drama Paul went to, I wouldn’t be confident at all that he resigns with anyone that isn’t an instant top-tier playoff team.
Yes I certainly agree
The NBA has put the Hornets in a bind. I don’t know where they go from here.
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by doubleteapot on Dec 10, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
What do you mean it’s not true? Everything I said was 100% true. Maybe you disagree with my conclusions, but the argument is supported with irrefutable facts. The Warriors offer based on Monta Ellis would offer too much salary to be worth taking back.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
For the record
I support the pick+aminu+bledsoe+Kaman trade, not the Eric Gordon one.
CP3+Gordon+Blake Griffin would be a candidate for top offense.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 10, 2011 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
to clarify
Reverend_Randy said: “To get CP3, the Clippers would have to either include Eric Gordon or the Minnesota first round pick”
What I meant when I said not really is that by nixing both deals that the Lakers had on the table, the NBA has dramatically lowered (in my opinion) Paul’s trade value. If you thought the Warriors and Clips were hesitant before to offer Gordon or Curry for CP3, why the hell would they even consider returning to anything close to that deal now that the Hornets have been FORCED to deal with them, or other teams. On top of that, I’d have serious concerns about CP3’s state of mind now that a deal to one of his preferred destinations was shredded.
Bottom line, I’m not convinced that the Clips would need to give up Gordon anymore. In fact, If I’m any team at this point I’m not giving up any of my top 3 for Paul. The Hornets might very easily find themselves in a position where they will have to settle for cap space and/or draft picks for Paul rather than a good player in return.
Interesting. That may very well be true. I’m imagining a situation where they do get the Clippers draft pick and some youngish goodish players.
I heard he doesn't like music.
by Reverend_Randy on Dec 11, 2011 12:30 AM PST up reply actions
Gordon + Minny's pick should be enough
That would be a great trade for NOH
Gordon is on the verge of being a star, and that pick is going to be insanely good this year
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They don't want to part with Gordon
To be honest, they should be able to not. Minnesota’s pick should be enough (+ aminu and co.)
6'6 SF
Whose been averaging 16 a game with about 7 boards and 6 assists. Raw
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by j-spliff415 on Dec 11, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
ARE YOU F#3KING SERIOUS?
We’re trying to get Jamal Crawford? JAMAL CRAWFORD? I thought we would commit to defense! I don’t want another high volume shooter who can’t defend! I want some players who actually commit to stopping the other man from scoring! And of course we’re doing another sign-and-trade so we can kill our cap even more!
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
by No Dice Jim Rice on Dec 11, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
I may have misread it
I saw “back to the club” and thought it meant back to the Warriors. It may mean that it is back to the Knicks, in which case it is okay. I hope we don’t give up anything of value in the three team trade, though.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
by doubleteapot on Dec 11, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah... JCraw would go to the Knicks...
… seems like we get someone inconsequential like Tony Douglass…. not sure what we’d give up.
by warriorsablaze on Dec 11, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
we wouldnt get Douglas
the way i see it, ATL gets Douglas and Bell, NY gets Crawford, GSW gets TPE and/or 2nd rd pick
I saw Douglas mentioned as going to us somewhere....
…. that’s the only reason I said that…. info isn’t really out yet.
by warriorsablaze on Dec 11, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
yay
we get rid of bell and save our amnesty
by gswarriors12 on Dec 11, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
We're stockpiling 2nd rounders
When Otis Smith sees us offering not 1, not 2, not 3 but FOUR 2nd rounders, he’ll personally drive Dwight to airport.
I mean what more can a gm want than to have an opportunity to draft Jenkins, Tyler, Malcolm Lee and Darrius Morris?!
haha
i do hope so but i dont really see dwight coming here
by gswarriors12 on Dec 11, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
we would be a good team around dwight
good 3pt shooting, good pg. Pipe dream though
As I stated above:
I can’t make any sense of this. If it’s been all over the internet since yesterday that the Clippers would match a 4 year, $40million offer, so why would they make the f___ing offer!? Someone is wrong here.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 12:02 PM PST reply actions
LAC is posturing
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
by LostHawkGSW on Dec 11, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
There are Bay Area beat writers saying this is the offer. I don’t see how either side can posture here. You only get to make one offer.
Big Baby Jesus 2012
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Dec 11, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
LOL David west 2y/20M....
You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk
What's wrong with that?
He’s good.
2 years is a good deal.
It’s when david west gets 4 years/50 at 31 you have problems.
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