2011 NBA Trade Deadline: Warriors Trade Wright, Gadzuric to New Jersey for Troy Murphy, 2nd rounder [SB Nation Bay Area]
Brandan Wright has been a complete and utter bust with the Warriors, but what's the point of this trade? I like T-Murph from pre-WE BELIEVE more than most, but immediately buying him out is pointless and adding his defense to this team is just toxic. Very odd. Let's see if this actually comes true.
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Brandan Wright has been a complete and utter bust with the Warriors,
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Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 22, 2011 10:21 PM PST reply actions
It's time to have a revolution against this oppressive front office
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Monta Ellis
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. If this is the kind of maneuvering we’re going to see from the Lacob/Riley regime, it’s going to be a dark couple years.
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
This sets up something perfect.
Trade Troy Murphy and Charlie Bell for Dwight Howard. All we have to do is mind control Orlando’s front office or threaten them with (extreme) force and we are a contender!
instead of the 2nd rounder
can we just rescind or cancel the pick we need to send to them for marcus williams?
Nets receive the Warriors’ 2011 first-round pick (lottery protected in 2011, top 11 protected in 2012, top 10 protected in 2013, if not conveyed by 2013, Nets will instead receive the Warriors’ 2013 and 2015 second-round picks) (Marcus Williams trade 07-22-08)-nbadraft.net
diehard warrior & niner fan.
possibly the only cal + SC fan in the world
probably not
cuz that’s a first rounder that we owe them, and this trade involves a second-rounder
"It ain't Chinese algebra. If you get stops and you execute on offense, normally that team wins." - Tony Allen
"One thing LeBron James has won that Kobe Bryant never has, and never will: A bronze medal."- Josh Tucker
i mean instead of throwing in a 2nd round pick they’re sending us to just be like—forget about the first rounder/2 seconds you owe us. we can throw in charlie bell for their trouble? not owing them a pick would increase our trading flexibility greatly. see below:
diehard warrior & niner fan.
possibly the only cal + SC fan in the world
by gogoldenbears on Feb 22, 2011 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
link
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/warriors/2011/02/08/the-ghost-of-marcus-williams/
diehard warrior & niner fan.
possibly the only cal + SC fan in the world
by gogoldenbears on Feb 22, 2011 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
Buy him out? Dumb??
If they don’t think he can play why trade for him? We coulda used BrokenWing and Gadz for our playoff push and dealt with the Brandan question later. A second round pick is not worth screwing with our bench depth at this time of the season. They must have some plan to replace those two bigs right away with something better than Murph? Will this involve D league scrubs again :>)
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 22, 2011 11:18 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
If the Dubs wanted a D-League scrub, they were already free to grab one… there’s an open roster spot. The Warriors did this because they think a second-round pick is worth giving up actual talent for. And they think that because, well, they’re kinda dumb.
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
The Warriors did this because they think a second-round pick is worth giving up actual talent for.
The answer has to be that they know something bad about Brandan’s health that we don’t know. The 2nd round pick isn’t worth the lost contributions of a healthy Wright for the last part of this season. We need everything we can muster to make that 8th spot and Murph paid to sit home is not gonna provide anything so the team must have felt that Wright and Gadz were also not gonna provide anything? I don’t really see how those two could be that useless?
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 22, 2011 11:34 PM PST reply actions
If there’s something wrong with Wright’s health, it’s got to be subtle enough so that the Warriors are confident he’ll pass a physical. I doubt health is a big variable here.
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
Maybe it's just me
but isn’t it apparent that Brandan Wright found his way into Smart’s doghouse? I mean, he was meant to be one the main guys off the bench at the beginning on the season, and afterwards he just slowly fell out of rotation. The commentators tiptoe around his name, like he has a disease. Then we hear about mysterious “back” injuries that keep him from playing for weeks. Doesn’t really matter how good a player he is if he can’t listen to what the coach tells him.
by Jaguarundi on Feb 23, 2011 12:36 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think you're on to something there
GS is dumping Wright for a small improvement in contracts. There’s no player value being exchanged here since the Warriors apparently aren’t going to playing Murphy.
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There is no improved contract here.
Expirings are expirings. We’re in the exact same place at the end of the year as we would have been if we let Gadz walk and didn’t extend a qualifying offer to Wright (the latter of which would have been dumb, but whatevs).
I doubt health is a big variable here.
and we got too many wins for it to make sense tanking :>)
They gotta be planning something else soon.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 23, 2011 12:03 AM PST reply actions
As long as his name isn't Antoine Walker.....
Wasn’t Murphy one of the best 2nd rounders we ever got? Clearly if murphy isn’t a solution to fix us, another 2nd rounder won’t fix us either….
Well...
Murphy wasn’t a 2nd rounder, he was the Warriors 2nd first round pick, which was 14th overall.
Also if we’re talking 2nd rounders the Warriors drafted, Arenas and Ellis come to mind…
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by AStreetcarNamedCuddyer on Feb 23, 2011 12:46 AM PST up reply actions
Savings trade
This trade saves one Mil in the offseason if the secon rounder is waived. Half a mil if the second rounder is kept. Wow
why does either team make this trade?
Nets gave up expirings for expirings and paid a 2nd rounder for the privlidge.
Dubs did same thing but at least we have outside chance of making playoffs but if we buyout Murphy then its equally stupid.
Wright isn’t an expiring, he’ll be a restricted free agent. Essentially they’re giving up a 2nd rounder for rights to Brandan.
by Missing Barry on Feb 23, 2011 6:50 AM PST up reply actions
I wonder if the Clips would trade Kaman for Murphy's expiring?
Kaman is a former all-star. If they do it, then maybe we can dump Biedrins’ contract to OKC.
"Go ahead. Make my day."
Don’t ever say “Kaman is a former all-star” again. Never. It doesn’t mean anything. Kaman is probably the worst All-Star selection ever, the only reason he was even an option is because they have rules that the team needs a certain number of C’s and somehow players like Tim Duncan are not considered a C. Let’s stop making the point he was a former All-Star, because it’s about as meaningful as Chris Mullin being a former All-Star.
by Missing Barry on Feb 23, 2011 6:53 AM PST up reply actions
In the words of Donnie Walsh, the framework has been set up and it's been done.
The Murphy trade that is.
I think you’re missing the point about Kaman. Even if you don’t believe in Kaman as another potential all-star, getting a center and dealing Biedrins will get rid of his horrible four-year remaining contract. In other words, we get Kaman in order be in the position to dump AB’s contract. That’s worth taking a chance on Kaman (Kaman “could” give us an upgrade at C and he will be an expiring next year in case Nene doesn’t want to re-sign). We don’t have much time though. I’m hoping Kaman gets showcased tonight.
"Go ahead. Make my day."
Kaman's contract is also really bad
and he also sucks as a player.
That third guitar note you played just now was perfect, dogg. Maybe play it again a little later alright.
by Reverend_Randy on Feb 23, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know. Jamaal Magloire might have something to say about that.
by Spider Jerusalem on Feb 23, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Olawankandi, Theo Ratliff, Mehmet Okur….Hey, NBA, stop with this stupid C’s have to make the All-Star game crap!
by Missing Barry on Feb 23, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Sigh. We’re closing in on that annual point of the year where I just stop watching the Warriors for the rest of the season.
We’re closing in on that annual point of the year where I just stop watching the Warriors for the rest of the season.
yeah ,Lakers time baby!!
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 23, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Ugh. You’re the worst. Can you at least jump on to the Heat bandwagon with me?
by Missing Barry on Feb 23, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Can you at least jump on to the Heat bandwagon with me?
I tried but it was full.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 23, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Lately there’s been a lot more room. Buncha people jumped off to head to Boston.
by Missing Barry on Feb 23, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Buncha people jumped off to head to Boston.
that makes sense, lots of bandwagon tracks up there.
I always go with our divisional team first then the western conference team but if I was free to make a decision I’d take my talents to miami.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 23, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Am I in the minority?
In wanting this 2nd rounder?I don’t really care about Gat or Wright enough to not take a shot at getting a guy who can be something for next year. Dont we literally have no picks for this draft right now? Nets one can be pretty high.
Fate is inexorable
We’re not making the playoffs, so we get to keep our first rounder. You’re correct that I’m not excited about the second rounder. It is extremely likely that whoever we get with that pick will not be nearly as good as Brandan, or have nearly the same potential.
by Missing Barry on Feb 23, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
from what I saw from twitter it’s only protected 1-7
obviously I hope that’s not true as it seems incredibly stupid (as it always has been) to have done that trade but if it is true, then ….yep.
Fate is inexorable
Sounds right, but I think that’s not for this upcoming draft, but the one after.
by Missing Barry on Feb 23, 2011 9:19 AM PST up reply actions
Yep my bad. You’d of thought “2012 draft pick” would have tipped me off
Fate is inexorable
by howcanilose on Feb 23, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Second rounders are very close to worthless.
The vast majority of players you take with second round picks never get off an NBA bench for meaningful minutes.
It’s basically the luck of the draw. Good GMs, bad GMs, everyone in between: they miss on far more second round picks than they hit with.
Getting a guy who spends a few years at the end of your bench, without ever playing non-garbage time minutes, is a SUCCESSFUL second-round pick.
The only reason I’d consider an exception to this logic in evaluating this trade is if there is a specific player (who, obviously, our brass couldn’t name yet) who they want who they predict we could get with this second-round pick who ends up turning into something.
eg, on draft day, if they say something like, “This is the guy we wanted when we picked up this pick,” I’ll be okay with this trade if he turns into something. Otherwise it’s just a dice roll.
so they really wanted a 2nd round pick
can we give them Acie Law too?
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
I do hope the team plans on doing something with Murphy, wether it is using him off the bench, or trading him for some bench depth.
If not, this was Riley making a move just to make a move and could actually make the team worse as we deplete our front court depth, albiet with a couple of players that only played in time of absolute need.
Hopefully Wright will get some run and we can see if he was actually worth trading J-Rich.
I read somewhere that Lacob wanted to stock up on picks and a high 2nd rounder was the best we could do.
Somehow I still think we could have gotten a serviceable player AND a 2nd round pick but maybe not with the union contract ending.
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
Meh
Wright was never going to be anything in a GS uniform. Saves some money and get a 2nd rounder.
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I don’t follow the logic. To me, it sounds something like this:
Meh, we weren’t gonna give Joe Nathan the chance to close anyways, so he was never gonna be anything in SF. At least we got something in return for him.
If you can’t tell, I’m not a fan of this move, even a little bit.
by Missing Barry on Feb 23, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
Joe Nathan actually did good things while on the Giants. He was traded in order to try to get the Giants the “final” piece in order to them to win the WS.
Brendan Wright has played in 98 games in almost 4 seasons (started 30) and averaged 12+ minutes. At best, he will be another Joe Smith. People were huffing and puffing about AR leaving the Warriors and that worked out fine. I wish BW well but he is never going to be more than a no. 10-11 guy on the bench.
Matt Cain: 38th Best Starter at Best
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Joe NathanBrandan Wright actually did good things while on theGiantsWarriors
Yep, my analogy still works.
by Missing Barry on Feb 23, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
my analogy still works.
maybe if Wright was a JoeNathan? but he’s not :>)
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 23, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Brandon never had a chance
He was cursed from the start by being a rookie who was sent to a team Nellie was coaching. Instead of focusing on his college to pro transition, Nellie was all wrapped up on playing “kiss and make up” with Webber during Brandon’s first season (and we all know how great that turned out). Meanwhile, Brandon sat on the bench and never had a chance to develop and build confidence. Keith Smart hasn’t been any better for him, so I’m glad he’s getting the chance to get out now before his potential is completely ruined. I have no doubt that he’ll be yet another Warrior giveaway that blossoms on a different team and his stat line for the 2nd half of this season should be a good guage.
actually costs us money
the 2nd round pick will get a contract, while we gave up 2 expirings
Murphy made 11.9 million while Gadzuric and Wright made 10.6 million: 1.3 million difference (About $400,000 in 1/3 of a season)
Not sure about the draft pick at issue but if it’s the Nets’ 2nd rounder this year, it’s not a bad pick at 36.
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Or they sell the 2nd rounder and make money off of it like they’ve done before.
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by Fantasy Junkie on Feb 23, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
when we could buy one for 500k and not give up brandan wright
this team’s a joke.
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 23, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
Fark this crap. We shouldn't be giving up BWright for nothing but a dice roll, essentially.
He was our most skilled bench player, matter of fact our most skilled post player by far. Ok, he’s rebound and defense-deficient, but he’s still our only back to the basket threat.
Unless there’s something wrong with his health that the team thinks it can hide from NJ, I don’t see the logic in this at all.
Smart has been a moron keeping BW in the doghouse. He deserves more of a chance than what Nellie gave him.
Heck he’s not even rebound deficient. He’s a below average defensive rebounder, but an above average offensive rebounder….pretty average overall for a PF.
by Missing Barry on Feb 23, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
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