RUMOR: Golden State Warriors & Cleveland Cavaliers discussing (discussed?) Antawn Jamison trade possibly for Troy Murphy or Andris Biedrins
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 24, 2011 12:14 PM PST
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I miss 'Tawn marginally more than these unis.
The Cleveland Cavaliers are contemplating another major trade, this time to send Antawn Jamison back to the team where he began his career.
Sources close to the talks told ESPN.com that the Cavaliers and Golden State Warriors have been discussing trade scenarios Thursday that would send Jamison to Oakland.
One source briefed on the talks said the discussions are ongoing but that no trade agreement has yet been reached.
It was not immediately clear who Golden State would be willing to part with if the teams indeed came up with a workable trade framework before Thursday’s 3 p.m. trade deadline.
$15M expiring contract for the summer of Dwight Howard. Hmmm. Discuss amongst yourselves.
(Edit: thanks to GSoM stars onlxn and Evanz for breaking this in FanShots).
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Please tell me we did this deal...
and just nobody around the NBA cares. Please…
I'm looking forward to the Warriors being led to the playoffs by Monta Ellis AND Stephen Curry.
I just heard it was bogus.
Source tells WFNY that #Cavs will ultimately stand pat. Jamison rumor was bogus, AP not going anywhere.
This should’ve been done yesterday. Tried like the Dickens my @$$…
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
So they tried to make it look like last second they were doing something?
I'm looking forward to the Warriors being led to the playoffs by Monta Ellis AND Stephen Curry.
Tried like the Dickens my @$$…
+1, i LOLed
by JustSomeName on Feb 24, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
WELL I heard it's true..
Who’s tweet do you believe?
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Doesn't matter really.
Just get the info out there for us to read.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
HowardB1954 @MsCaliLogan Jamison and ginger ale. Jamison by itself tastes like the mouth full of gasoline
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Oh wait, wrong tweet, hold on.
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
lol
Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw
by JohnnyDangerously on Feb 24, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Cavs made a better deal with Boston.
Jams for Biedrins would have been awesome!!!
This means nobody wanted Biedrins’ contract :p. Not OKC. Not the Cavs.
"Go ahead. Make my day."
I Hate The Warriors I Hate Riley I hate St.Jean I Hate Mully I Hate Don Nelson I Hate David Twardzik
I Hate Cohan I hate Joe Smith I hate C Webber I hate L.Sprewell Most of all I hate Joe Lacob & Peter Guber for building us all up only to tare us down see I don’t think if Ellison would have bought this franchise that would have kept this incompetent GM or this Fraud prez they all would have been FIRED or do I think he would sat still and watched other team accumulate talent while he just watched all happen be for his very eyes Mr. Lacob if you don’t have cash to go over the salary cap you should have NOT bought this team because once upon a time a wise man told all follow the $$$$$ I mean isn’t this what this all about going over the cap when you just spent 450million your not the cure for Cohan you are cohan
by FreePalistine1948 on Feb 24, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
I heard Latrell Sprewell, Chris Webber, and Rick Barry were available too. I say we pull the trigger.
Sweet.
I can rock my Sprewell jersey again. Except I still do. It even got me free tickets.
Pavelski soaks panties faster than a firehose - Mr. Plank
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Feb 24, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
It ain't happening
trade deadline ended and I guess we enjoy the Irish Alumni Murph. haha How about we trade Jim Barnett b/c we all know he’s the worst TV broadcaster in the league.
by justinleagueheroes on Feb 24, 2011 12:32 PM PST reply actions
umm...Fitz is the one that needs to go.
Barnett rocks.
by Billy Frijoles on Feb 24, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Am I the only person who thinks that niether of our announcers suck?
Because they don’t.
haha How about we trade Jim Barnett b/c we all know he’s the worst TV broadcaster in the league.
Are you being sarcastic here? Barnett is by far my favorite color commentator in all of professional sports. He is incredibly articulate, honest, and uniquely candid. He is the sole reason I started watching Warriors broadcasts. If you can’t appreciate his commentary you probably also watch network sitcoms and order well-done steaks at restaurants. :P
Amnesty for all immigrants! Boycott Arizona! RIP GURU
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Feb 24, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
You say candid I say know-it-all, never wrong, annoying
Fitz gets entirely too much hate on here
Lakers, Patriots, Yankees and Wings 'til I Die
know-it-all??
Has there ever been a more humble, unassuming color man? If you’re perturbed by anti-Fitz rhetoric, you should realize that Barnett goes to great lengths to mask his ineptitude. He is very careful avoid brash contradictions. How dare you, sir! (Imagine my monocle dropping violently from my suddenly un-furrowed brow!)
Amnesty for all immigrants! Boycott Arizona! RIP GURU
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Feb 24, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
PLEASE tell me we made a late play for something.....
Perkins and Robinson go to OKC in exchange for Green…Now OJ Mayo to Indiana…did we do anything????
'In Lacob We Trust'......
by BritWarriorGSW on Feb 24, 2011 12:39 PM PST reply actions
Now Gerald Wallace to the Blazers?
WTF are we doing…….???
'In Lacob We Trust'......
by BritWarriorGSW on Feb 24, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
for Pryzbila and a 2nd round pick!?!?!
wtf?!
really warriors, nothin’?
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 24, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
WTF?
Just that for Wallace? You gotta be s$#^# me.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Monta Ellis
plus two future 1st rounders
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
by j-spliff415 on Feb 24, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
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It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
by j-spliff415 on Feb 24, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
ok, two first rounders…
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 24, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Not only do we not have valuable players, we also don’t have two first round picks to give up. Thanks Mullin!
Amnesty for all immigrants! Boycott Arizona! RIP GURU
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Feb 24, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for clarifying
I would’ve pulled my hair out (I have a fade and it hurts more pulling out shorter hair) if it was just that.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Monta Ellis
Looks like the Mayo deal might have just missed the deadline...
In which case…someones about to be fired!!…lol
'In Lacob We Trust'......
by BritWarriorGSW on Feb 24, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Troy Murphy baby. Just lay back and wait for that championship trophy to appear in the Bay!
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
I don't consider food eating competition trophies as any sort of consolation...
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
If only NBA players could get hot on defense for short periods of time the way baseball players can go hot streaks hitting the ball!
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Cody Ross
was a solid player before he came to SF, 84 RBI on the Marlins.
by Anonymous1337 on Feb 24, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
OJ Mayo to Indiana - where's this reported?
oh just read it missed the deadline, haha
by soda pop SMASH on Feb 24, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
We have nothing to trade
Monta: Wouldnt get enough value
Steph: Not willing to trade,
Dorrel: Wouldnt get enough value
Lee: No takers
Beans: No takers
Reggie: Not enough value, no takers
Udoh: Not enough value, no takers
Thats our team folks. We are a good rebuilding team though, kinda. Maybe.
Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw
by JohnnyDangerously on Feb 24, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
All i have to say is if we do make the playoffs we have a strong core
But i doubt we get the 8 seed now.
Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw
by JohnnyDangerously on Feb 24, 2011 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
BIEDRINS HAS TO GO
"Whoever said WAR is HELL must have been talking about Aaron Rowand" - McCoven faithful
Might as well trade for 0
J-Rich, Cardinal, etc…
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Monta Ellis
Warriors are stupid.
You can pick up Gerald Wallace for Pryzbilla and a 2nd. wow. Pathetic Warriors. Too content to settle for mediocrity.
Shane Battier to Memphis for Hasheem Thabeet?
Hmmm lets see now…. nope….. no mention that Warriors were close in that discussion…
'In Lacob We Trust'......
by BritWarriorGSW on Feb 24, 2011 12:53 PM PST reply actions
battier would not have helped
too slow, not a run and gun guy
and it was thabeet and a first rounder…. dunno how i feel bout that
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
WTF!?!??!!?!?
A top tier defender and consummate professional for a total bust!?!?? Oh wait, the Rockets got a 1st round pick. Must be nice…
Amnesty for all immigrants! Boycott Arizona! RIP GURU
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Feb 24, 2011 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Talks officially fell through.
No deal.
I'm looking forward to the Warriors being led to the playoffs by Monta Ellis AND Stephen Curry.
STEIN_LINE_HQ Marc Stein
Cavs and Warriors, meanwhile, talked Jamison for Troy Murphy all the way to buzzer but could not come to a deal, presumably regarding picks
Murphy for Jamison would add to our cap, and there’s no way the Cavs would be the ones giving up draft picks in their current state.
This means that the Warriors front office thought that Antawn Jamison, one of the league’s worst defenders, was the missing piece that would put us in the playoffs.
Amazing.
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
Fire Riley. Fire Smart. Fire LAcob lol.
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 24, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
or they were fishing for another pick
Jamison becomes an expiring (or doesn’t get payed in case of a lockout).
You mean they were trying to turn a 2011 expiring into a 2012 expiring, in the hopes that a ‘12 expiring would have trade value in a year? I guess it’s possible, but given how worthless expirings have proven of late, is that a switch you actually give up value for?
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
I was just thinking outloud
If you convert him to an expiring in 2012 but gain a 2nd (or perhaps first round pick) it might make sense long term.
So we could have 2 2nd rounders or 1 first rounder for the cost of 1 more year of salary which may be a lock out.
It’s a fun idea… I just really don’t think the Cavs would even consider offering picks right now, given that they just added Baron’s horrible contract to acquire one. I think the Dubs wanted Antawn. And that scares the hell out of me.
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
Cavs now have two top 10 picks
and still have Verajao
damn, why can’t people realize we need to do that? They will be better than us within 2-3 years.
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just imagine
they get Kyrie Irving and Derek Williams
argh
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Ha, and if they end up with one solid player and one scrub out of those two picks, which isn’t all that unlikely?
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
risk worth taking
to get better
to have a chance at something special
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Ha, maybe, I’m just not necessarily putting money on them being better than us in 2-3 years. They have a long way to go, and a lot of things need to go right for them. Curry alone is probably a better piece than anyone they have and will get in the draft.
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
better than Irving?
not sure about that at all
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I’d definitely put my money on Curry. Irving is nice, but I don’t view him as a super prospect or anything.
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Really ?
He looked really good before his injury. I think he’s a surefire star
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I agree he looked good, though it should be kept in mind he played all of 8 games. Don’t agree he’s a surefire star at all, though. I’d be higher on him if he were quicker.
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
Sullinger+Verajao
that could be a very potent frontcourt
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Could be. Also could be that Sullinger is a bit undersized, not all that long, and not as athletic as you’d like, and is just a solid, undersized PF with limitations.
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
(I’m not all that big on Verejao, by the way)
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
(I’m not all that big on Verejao, by the way)
Either is Bart Simpson
really?
he’s pretty much the only positive on CLE this season. I have him as +3. He’s also +3.1 on 3-yr RAPM. He’s exactly what the Warriors need.
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I don’t dislike Varejao he’s a solid enough player, I just don’t think he’s all that good, either. I’d rather have Biedrins return to form than Varejao. They’d be pretty similar but I think Biedrins rebounds better and has better hands (both of which help him be a more useful offensive player).
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
I’d rather have Biedrins return to form than Varejao
well, let me know when that happens
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Ha, true, but even Biedrins at his best didn’t give us exactly what we need, you know?
by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2011 5:45 AM PST up reply actions
sure, when what you really need is Dwight Howard
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I think the point is that, if you don't think there's much available this year in the free agency market
(and certainly it seems like there’s less available this year than next, especially now that you can guarantee that Perk will get matched by OKC) you might as well pick up a draft pick and wait a year to make another FA move.
What if the 2nd rounder we got from the Murphy trade is what they wanted?
I swear if Rily was that sensitive about not getting Fields and loves this 2nd rounder we got for BW held us back from that huge expiring in the Dwight year………
I really hate Riley
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
This means that the Warriors front office thought that Antawn Jamison, one of the league’s worst defenders, was the missing piece that would put us in the playoffs.
Oh, see, I saw it the other way around.
It was about us taking on salary for a year in order to get a first round draft pick, that’s my guess.
(And that’s not a bad deal, if you don’t think there’s a good FA available this summer.)
I doubt it was about Jamison as a player. I think it was much more about contracts.
I just don’t see any way that Cleveland was looking to offer picks here. They’re in as pure of a rebuilding mode as any team has ever been, and their owner is very happy to spend money to improve the team. Why would they make the Baron move one day only to undercut it the next by dumping a pick for money?
I don’t think us getting a first-rounder was ever on the table here. A second-rounder, maybe, but who cares? There are better uses of notional cap space than parking an expiring in it for a year with only a second-rounder for your trouble.
I’m open to the idea that the chase of Jamison was about something other than his play, but I don’t think there’s a compelling case to be made that getting a big expiring deal is worth much these days. The Hornets thought they were sitting on gold with Peja’s deal; they ended up buying him out months before the deadline, because it was clear there wouldn’t be a market. I’d much rather retain flexibility to make small cap-adding moves than lug Jamison around for a year. And my guess is that this had a lot to do with basketball, not just numbers.
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
You may be right, it's hard to know.
It’s hard to understand what Cleveland is doing. Why did they want Baron, who’s guaranteed to be pouty and out of shape for them?
They didn’t want Baron… they wanted (and got) the Clippers’ #1 this year. Baron was the price they had to pay to get it.
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
that is perhaps what the warriors wanted to do
get a first rounder and eat Jamison’s money, especially if there is a lockout.
Cleveland’s picks would be very valuable as they are going rebuild mode.
But if they really thought jamison is worth his salary as a player…
I’d hope that that’s something the Warriors would want to do… I just don’t buy the Cavs being interested in it, as they were on the other end of that exact type of trade just last night.
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
Who's the biggest trade deadline loser so far?
Baron Davis 67%
LOL
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Monta Ellis
Poor guy. Seriously.
This really sucks for him.
WHAT!??!?!?!?!?!?!
by true torture on Feb 24, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Reading that poll
Made my day and offsets the Murphy trade a bit
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Monta Ellis
hes getting paid more money than god
and he’s spent his career on terrible teams. i dont think he really cares as much as we think he does.
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
I could see him being disappointed about being in Cleveland rather than LA.
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Not from a basketball perspective, but froma city/living perspective.
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, unless he wants to start producing documentaries about tractors…
Amnesty for all immigrants! Boycott Arizona! RIP GURU
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Feb 24, 2011 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
Boston!
100% no doubt
Perkins for Kristic and Green?
I’ll stay with Perkins!
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 24, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
he wasnt resigning
so they got something in return
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
They loss to the Lakers because of Perkins injury
now they want to let him go for a soft center and a soft power foward
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
we should resign jiri welsch
imo, just saying, etc.
Riley trying to look like he was working hard to make something happen.
This has the smell of poop looks at bottom of shoes. Looks like someone trying to save his job and flailing once again in desperation.
Buh Bye Riley, and if you don’t get fired we need a new owner! Oh ya, and Keith Smart is crapilicious!
by Gawkable on Feb 24, 2011 1:17 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Come on!
Riley’s shrewdness delivered us a 2nd round pick, afterall!
by San Francisco Slim on Feb 24, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Damnit what if we got Baron and Jamison
both back haha jk
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
only in your wildest dreams
It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...
and J-Rich
and Dunlevey and Nelson and Mullin and Cohan and
c’mon Warriors make a big Move
we don’t need those weak trade
Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........
You know it's already too late?
Trade deadline was at 3 PM ET
by DutchWarrior on Feb 24, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Larry Riley believed the deadline was over at 12AM.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
What I want to know is, why are the Warriors married to the current set of players?
Are they contender quality? No. Are they playoff quality? No.
Why can’t we act progressively instead of conservatively. I wasn’t expecting a blockbuster, but at least have the guts to make a decision either way. Add something to the bench, or add a guard so we don’t have to run Monta into the ground.
But no, Riley and his Dickens laid a goose egg. It’s time to look for a new GM, like right now.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Why can’t we act progressively instead of conservatively.
We simply don’t have anyone worth anything to other teams unless we gave up Monta, Steph or Dorell. We probably were offered nothing comparable to those 3 if teams called about them anyway.
Personally, I’d be more pissed off if one of those 3 got traded for someone elses garbage
eschew obfuscation, espouse elucidation
Using the title box to quote someone is confusing. I know Skep does it, perhaps because he likes to make his posts less readable, but it’s still bad habit that only serves to confuse readers. There’s a perfectly good, clear, easy to use quote feature. As you’ve written it, it’s not immediately clear that the “Why can’t we act progressively…” line wasn’t something you were asking yourself.
Personally it was just too easy to use for quotes. First time anyones complained about it but i’ll definitely try to break out of the habit. no promises lol pretty sure it’ll slip my mind somewhere.
Obfuscation rules!
I’m just saying, there is a proud tradition of unnecessary complication in the English language. Any sesquipedalian would tell you as much!
Amnesty for all immigrants! Boycott Arizona! RIP GURU
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Feb 24, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
NOOOOO!!!!!
All that cap space for the super offseason gone…. Give them the 2nd rounders or a 1st (somehow get around the MWill trade, 2015 1st or something). Even if we don’t get Dwight that offseason is still stacked to the bone. From role players to superstars.
Terrible, terrible. Now we cut Murphy which doesn’t help that much. Hey Riley, have fun trying like the Dickens to find a job
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
It appears Riley needs a good swift kick in the Dickens.
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 24, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, what cap space are we talking about?
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
2012
Jamison will have 15 mil of the books, Bell 4 mil, Louis 2 mil. If we then dump Andris for an expiring (Diop’s 6 mil?) we’d have enough to be very active. Especially since the contracts won’t be as big as they are now with the new CBA
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Wait, wasn’t AB presumed to be part of the Jamison trade?
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 24, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Reports now are that it was a Murphy-for-Jamison deal under discussion.
Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis
That presumption was presumptuous. A Murphy and Biedrins for Jamison trade was not a legal trade. ESPN’s rumor mill didn’t even use their own cursed trade machine before posting something that a tiny bit of fact checking would show to be impossible.
why would you assume?
I never assume! Assuming leads to assumptions.
Shut up, just shut up. You had me at "cure for Cohan".
When I was looking at it, we had something like $43M tied up between Ellis, Steph, Dorell, Udoh, Lee and Biedrins. Doesn’t include any money for keeping Reggie, our 1st round pick this year, anyone else we sign or resign. Jettisoning Biedrins helps, but I’m not sure we can count on having much cap space (definitely not the cap space to add a max guy) to make a move without getting rid of some of those guys (Ellis would be most logical choice to move of that ground, I think).
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions
Well getting a 15 mil expiring may take this years 1st
And I’d only sign Reggie for 1 year so he’s off the books in 2012. And for Monta being the smart guy to get rid of remember we need to look attractive for Dwight. More talent is likely more attractive
If it matter s at all I ran this with 2k11 and we had enough money for 103 mil deal for 6 years.
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
More talent is likely more attractive
True, on the other hand, we also need to be able to make the biggest offer possible, and Monta has the best combination of large contract + possibly movable. Lee would be the first guy I’d move in a fantasy world, but in reality, I don’t see why anyone would take him off our hands without us packaging him with talent, or taking back a bad contract, you know? Trading Monta clears a nice amount of room, and it might actually be possible to move him, which is the real key.
by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2011 5:50 AM PST up reply actions
If we kept Bell, Louis and Reggie for 1 more year
Got Tawn and Diop and we’d have Over 25 mil in expirings with Monta and Lee as our only big contracts and with a lower cap 25 mil will be worth a lot more in years past so I think we could give him an offer with that but I agree on the trades. Lee would ideally be moved but we can’t do that
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Ha, I think we all want Dwight. The question is – how do you get him?
by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2011 5:47 AM PST up reply actions
come on be serious
dwight wants a championship, he’s going to go to a contending team. not the warriors.
Well NY got Stat
NJ almost got someone but couldn’t in the end, it’s not impossible
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
All the moves that happened...
The Warriors did nothing. This summer/next year doesn’t look promising because of our lack of draft picks and no real free agents…
Safe to say that Riley needs to go. He did NOTHING. Now we wait a year and a half and HOPE we land something, but who says anything will be different?
by Woody421 on Feb 24, 2011 3:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
the warriors also had nothing enticing to trade
Unless you want to trade curry
Lacob said
That he wants to wait until the offseason to make moves, but Riley needs to be fired NOW so our new GM will have time to plans for trades this summer.
I don’t think there’s really anything to worry about in terms of needing a new GM now.
Given a probable lockout while a new CBA is being drawn up, I don’t think there’s any rush to plan trades. The final state of the new CBA will go a long way in determining what trades are good or bad. Planning without knowledge of the new labor agreement is not a good idea anyhow.
That's true.
Well, somebody needs to be building their relations/reputation around the league and it doesn’t look like Riley can make things happen. If we are going to get a new GM this summer, might as well get one now. Is there any upside to keeping Riley for a few more months?
He seems like a nice guy, and can talk. He seems like he is trying, but I don’t think he can execute like other GM’s.
If we are going to get a new GM this summer, might as well get one now.
Might as well do some homework and not make rash decisions and see who is available when the season ends and guys currently under contract to manage other teams may become available to be hired. The guys who are out there now are all out of work. A lot of them are out of work because they deserve to be.
So we made a trade
That will make the Nets and Celtics better while giving us less depth and making us worse, Riley needs to be fired.
by A'Seahawks_Warriors on Feb 24, 2011 3:18 PM PST reply actions
Another lateral move,
improve the roster slightly this year to push our cap space back a season. I think if its a Murphy + a 2nd rounder for Jamison it is not a bad deal, but I think the Warriors would probably have to give up more. Biedrins for Jamison would be alright as well, but I dont think Cleveland accepts that deal. I would be curious to see what the returns on Biedrins would be. If Portland or OKC were interested, I would have loved to move him for Oden or Greene.
The big problem here is Riley. I hope Lacob is looking for someone to turn over basketball operations to this summer…
Boise State is 38-2 in my 3 years of college.
by warriorsscore110 on Feb 24, 2011 3:19 PM PST reply actions
OMG THE SKY IS FALLING IN
I WILL NEVER WATCH THIS TEAM AGAIN EVERYONE IS IDIOTS I HATE EVERYTHING WHY CAN’T WE MAKE SOME KIND OF MOVE EVEN IF THERE ARE NO GOOD OPTIONS I HATE THE WARRIORS
P.S.
FIRE EVERYONE!!!! FIRE STEPH CURRY FIRE MONTA ELLIS FIRE ORACLE ARENA
haha
Fire the guys who help you to your seats because they won’t let me sit in other people’s seats
Seriously? All I do is sit in other people’s seats!
Amnesty for all immigrants! Boycott Arizona! RIP GURU
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Feb 24, 2011 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
Totally Agree I'm done it's because of the Warrior I hate the NBA
by FreePalistine1948 on Feb 24, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Start rooting for the Heat. You’ll feel a lot better. And I could always use new friends on my Heat bandwagon! :)
by Missing Barry on Feb 24, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
Love Lebron, don't really like the Heat unless they're beating Lakers...
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 24, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
I just want to see them crush everone’s hope and stomp on the haters this year. Help close the window on Boston and LAL’s championship aspirations. Once they get 1-2 championships, then I’ll start rooting against them.
by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2011 5:47 AM PST up reply actions
WHY CAN’T WE MAKE SOME KIND OF MOVE EVEN IF THERE ARE NO GOOD OPTIONS?
I think you answered yourself there.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 24, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Is too late to trade Beans to Vince McMahon
For the Big Show
by FreePalistine1948 on Feb 24, 2011 3:51 PM PST reply actions
Well, I’m glad we’re keeping Biedrins over Jamison. I still think he can turn the corner and start being effective on offense again. He’s just got to toughen up a little mentally, focus and quit worrying.
The idea of getting Howard, though… yeah, that sounds awesome. I wish.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is Monta Ellis when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
Rebounds help
But we need the staff to get him being more assertive
biedrins is broken.
he and his kgb era haircut need to go.
guess that didnt happen
well okc got perk, portland got wallace and the warriors got murphy thats a huge drop off of talented big men. we need " the glow"
Other teams are looking for talent, W’s are giving the talent away
Thank you Mr. GM, thank you Mr. Smart, thank you dear owners. You screwed us again. Giving up BWright for nothing – what else should W’s fans expect? I guess we deserve it
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