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Larry Riley is a Keeper. SERIOUSLY.


I dont understand how fans can be so impatient and hateful towards a man that is slowly turning this franchise around. Looking back at all the moves he has made, I think we truely have an up and coming general manager that NEEDS to be extended. Other than drafting future all star STEPHEN CURRY and future Dennis Rodman EKPE UDOH

Jun 2009: He traded 6th man of the year award winner Jamal Crawford for Acie Law and Speedy Claxton. Decent move that gave us expiring contracts. Even though we didn't use Claxtons expiring via trade, we now have a very insightful scout working for us...maybe he was responsible for finding Jeff Adrien?

Jul 2009: Sharpshooter Marco Belinelli and his expiring contract was traded for veteren Devean George.  Solid move to free up PT for Anthony Morrow; and even though he is currently unemployed, George helped Nellie become the all-time winningest coach in NBA history with his superb corner 3 pt shooting.

Aug 2009: Riley promised that he would make a BIG splash in the FA market to improve this teams weak front court and bring in a veteran presence and he did by signing vet Mikki Moore.  He played very well for us before we had to waive him but  its unfortunate that he got injured. RIP Mikki Moore. WE MISS YOU

Nov 2009: Riley made another excellent move by trading  a disgruntled Captain Jack and Acie Law for two solid role players: Raja Bell and Vlad Rad.  Raja never played for us because of his wrist injury but Vlad is playing like an allstar for the Warriors as of late. Should we resign him? YES

Diamonds in the Rough: Best of 2009-10: Discovered Anthony Tolliver, Chris Hunter, Reggie Williams, and Cartier Martin...all of which fans love to label "D-LEAGUE ALLSTARS" All four played major roles in helping Nellie break the record. Im happy to see them still in the league as bench warmers. Good Job Larry.

Jun 2010: Underrated move of the year: traded Corey Maggette and our 2nd round draft pick for expiring vets Charlie Bell and Dan Gadzuric. We missed out on Landry Fields but sacrifices must be made especially when trading an overpaid scorer like Mags. Drunken master Charlie Bell aint getting PT, but his expiring contract will help us get YAO MING!!! Ming and Lin together= Volcanic eruption @ Oracle

Jul 2010:  Larry Riley  your genius is showing...Traded scrubs Ronny Turiaf, Kelenna Azubuike, and Anthony Randolph for 20-10 ALL STAR DAVID FREAKIN LEE.  I can't think of any other player we could have spent $80 million thats better than Lee. Nuff said.

PR Move of the Year: Signing Harvard superstar/ Summer League allstar and asian american Jeremy Lin to a two year deal. Lacob loves him. Fans love him. The D league loves him...Brilliant move.

Dec 2011: Signed journey man Acie Law as our backup PG...the FO is all about giving 2nd chances to former warriors players right?

Feb 2011:  Warriors trade big men Brandan Wright (injury prone) and Dan Gadzuric (injury prone) for a lesser injury prone big man and former Warrior, big bird himself: TROY F'ING MURPHY.  But thats not the best part, we also got a 2nd round draft pick that Riley will use to draft the next Gilbert Arenas, no no no...better yet the next MONTA ELLIS.

So you see, it would be absolutely stupid to fire a guy like Larry Riley who not only  works hard and  shows passion for the game of basketball, but who KNOWS HOW TO WIN.  He knows talent when he sees it. Guys like  Deron Williams,  Gerald Wallace, Jeff Green, Kendrick Perkins, Carl Landry, Marcus Thornton, Shane Battier and  Nazr Mohammad dont meet his standards. DEAL WITH IT. Patience is a virtue my fellow Warriors fans. Let Mr. Riley and Mr. Cohan--I mean, Mr. Lacob do their jobs.  17 years is a long time, we can wait another 5 years cant we???? YES WE CAN.

 

Yes people my first attempt at sarcasm...

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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But I’m very afraid that this is only going to mistakenly encourage certain people.

"We Deserve"

by YaHeard on Feb 24, 2011 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

this was great

passive aggressive, cynical and sarcastic totally beats angry

by Neon on Feb 24, 2011 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

They say sarcasm is anger's ugly cousin...

…so it’s all the same family. Sarcasm is just funnier.

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by JonDoe on Feb 25, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Really? Wow… lol

by Bob on Feb 24, 2011 6:22 PM PST reply actions  

I really can't tell...

Is this sarcasm, because it seems like sarcasm… But I’m not sure…

Monta Ellis's #1 Fan!!!
*Note: This post probably doesn't exist. The author of this post has to be dreaming. He's going to wake up and it's going to be November 1st again. Because there's no way that this really happening.*

by philthiest on Feb 24, 2011 6:22 PM PST reply actions  

Yes people my first attempt at sarcasm…

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Feb 24, 2011 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

its too bad he said that

i was having fun trying to figure out of it was real or not

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by Evanz on Feb 24, 2011 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Mikki Moore gave it away. The Dennis Rodman comp is where I first got suspicious.

by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2011 6:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Mikki Moore was basically a giveaway for me too. The problem on sites like this, as jae often points out, is that the sincere posts are quite often more ridiculous that the “ironic” ones. Truth is stranger than fiction, as they say.

Overall, I’d call this diary a semi-failed attempt at “sarcasm,” since half the claims are utterly ridiculous and the other half are pretty reasonable. Which would make sense, given that Riley’s made some pretty smart moves and some pretty dumb ones.

Personally, I’d say Larry Riley is a keeper. HALF SERIOUSLY.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 25, 2011 6:50 AM PST up reply actions  

This is the first time I've seen Riley's moves laid out like that, one after the other

And its kind of scary how all of the moves he has made so far (except possibly the Lee deal) have not done much positive for the team, in terms of winning games. I’m trying to figure out if those deals were actually the sign of Riley being a bad GM, or if they’re signs that he inherited a team that had been run by a bad GM, or both. I don’t know if we really could have got more value for players like Mags and Crawford, maybe we could have and Riley just didn’t play his cards right. What seems very obvious to me is that the GM prior to him screwed up big time, because we shouldn’t have had those players in the first place.

by freerandolph on Feb 26, 2011 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Was that always there?

I really need to start getting more sleep. I’ve also read to many crappy fan posts to not be sure…

In light of that, this post is SO rec’d.

Monta Ellis's #1 Fan!!!
*Note: This post probably doesn't exist. The author of this post has to be dreaming. He's going to wake up and it's going to be November 1st again. Because there's no way that this really happening.*

by philthiest on Feb 24, 2011 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude seriously are you deranged ?

No how no way after today they all need to go every one

by FreePalistine1948 on Feb 24, 2011 6:23 PM PST reply actions  

lolwut

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 24, 2011 6:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I like dis.

Exactly how I feel about it.

by saint.dee on Feb 24, 2011 6:24 PM PST reply actions  

i need to know something

have we EVER used a trade exception or an expiring contract to get a player at the deadline? Ever? Someone refresh my history cuz I’m drawing blanks dating back to the cliff robinson exception.

O wait nm. Baron Davis. (Dale Davis expiring). But since then?

Goal: 8 seed!

by dso on Feb 24, 2011 6:26 PM PST reply actions  

Worth noting – exceptions are generally hard to use, as they can’t be combined with players. At least that’s my understanding. There were rumors we could have used the JRich expirings. Not sure if it’s true, but if there’s enough smoke….there’s a good chance there’s a fire.

by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2011 6:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Using an Obama quote at this time doesn't help your cause lol

"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Monta Ellis

by ejdacanay on Feb 24, 2011 6:33 PM PST reply actions  

LOL

Well, when you put it that way….

by Lacob's Ladder on Feb 24, 2011 6:40 PM PST reply actions  

Nothing like having a GM who is a step behind the curve

Instead of a step ahead.

Saint Jean
Mullin
Riley

it’s all the same thing. Nice guys I’d want to have dinner with and wouldn’t trust my bank account with.

by tafkasam on Feb 24, 2011 7:06 PM PST reply actions  

Nothing like having a GM who is a step behind the curve Instead of a step ahead.

I think this is a very, very important point. There’s a strong tendency to try to copy what others have apparently had success with with the assumption that the copy will lead to the same success. Anticipating inefficiencies of the market, whether that be in signing free agents, making trades, or drafting, such that you can get more for less because people value the wrong skills is key. Anticipating what commodities will be valuable in the future is key. Seeing that a commodity was once valuable to another team and then loading up on it? Not a guarantee of success by any measure. I didn’t see anything in any of these guys that suggested a real coherent plan. Even if many individual moves can usually be defended a acceptable (though never much more) the sum of the dealings is a mess.

Beyond this, there’s still a strong element of luck involved in being a successful GM, but the strategy of seeing what other teams have done that looks like it led to success results in several teams copying and finding out that the NBA is a zero-sum game; If everyone did the same thing, half the teams would still be losers. The flip side of luck is that since the impact of a single player can be huge, a single good, lucky move can make up for several mistakes.

by jae on Feb 25, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

but the strategy of seeing what other teams have done that looks like it led to success results in several teams copying

which won’t work because players are not a commodity, they vary too much in their characteristics to be commoditized. Would be a lot simpler game to manage if they were though.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 25, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

One thing I really worry about with the current regime is that they’re allegedly gung-ho about second-round picks because they missed out on Landry Fields. That seems like really narrow irrational thinking to me… the fact that you liked one second-rounder that panned out doesn’t mean second-round picks are really valuable all of a sudden. It seems like they overlearned a kind of pointless lesson and are overreacting to it. Troubling.

Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis

by onlxn on Feb 25, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

One minor correction

Joe Lacob is not “they”. Riley has stated that he doesn’t value 2nd round picks because they can get such players from the D-League. This 2nd round fascination is all Lacob.

I am not a testicle.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 25, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Draft notes on DeJuan Blair
On June 26, 2008, San Antonio acquired Golden State’s 2009 second-round draft pick, the draft rights to Malik Hairston and cash considerations from Phoenix in exchange for the draft rights to Goran Dragić.48 Previously, Phoenix acquired 2007 and 2009 second-round draft picks on January 3, 2005 from Golden State in exchange for Žarko Čabarkapa.49 San Antonio used the 37th pick to draft DeJuan Blair.

LOL we drafted Dragic and DeJuan Blair essentially for nothing

Thanx Mullin

by tafkasam on Feb 24, 2011 7:11 PM PST reply actions  

LOL

you should make that last line a little more noticeable.

Will Monta ever be an all-star?
8 > 24 basic math.

by dubsRunCA on Feb 24, 2011 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty funny post.

I thought things were going in the right direction this off-season, and even thought Larry had a lot more acumen than people credited him. But we had very tradable assets along with an exception that we could have used. There is no reason why we couldn’t have traded Vlad and Brandan for an exceptional player or even a high pick. I’m frustrated that the Warriors didn’t put to good use at least one of their assets.

On one hand, the Dorell Wright signing makes me curious to think about what Riley could do in the off-season. On the other hand, I think it makes the most sense for the Warriors to completely restructure this franchise and begin from the ground up. Everybody goes, from Monta to Jim Barnett – everyone.

by lilboots on Feb 24, 2011 7:48 PM PST reply actions  

Haha

I said that more in jest. I’m just a little sore that we didn’t get a player.

by lilboots on Feb 24, 2011 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Sore? Really!?!

We got Murph and Adrien, though, dude!!

More sarcasm for the people. I hear ya.

by Lacob's Ladder on Feb 24, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

So is this the point where all the people who hopped on the bandwagon during We Believe have officially deserted?

And all that remains is group of angry, loyal fans who thrive on sarcasm and pessimism?
If we’re gonna suck for the foreseeable future, I kinda hope so… A sick part of me kind of misses those days.

Monta Ellis's #1 Fan!!!
*Note: This post probably doesn't exist. The author of this post has to be dreaming. He's going to wake up and it's going to be November 1st again. Because there's no way that this really happening.*

by philthiest on Feb 24, 2011 8:47 PM PST reply actions  

We Believe era included,

I don’t think we ever officially made it out of the land of suck.

by lilboots on Feb 24, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Re: So is this the point where all the people who hopped on the bandwagon during We Believe have officially deserted?

I don’t think so. If the rest of the year is abysmal, then that may cull the herd a bit, but I stupidly stuck through the entire dead era between Nelson regimes as did all of the Pre Believers. That was so much more horrible and directionless than the present.

My theory is that GSW hoops attracts stupid like moths to flames. I am living proof.

FOOMP.

I am not a testicle.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 25, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

D-League

I don’t see anything wrong with finding D-Leaguers that are currently in the NBA. Nevertheless, rec’d for hilariousity.

by jonathannn on Feb 24, 2011 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed... sort of.

We will not have anything resembling a backup SF until we get one this offseason. Buike would be nice to have back, but I’d have to know more details on the injury. I’d also love to have Turiaf, Morrow, Watson, basically everyone from last year! I even miss Chris Hunter (although I would rather not have him play on the Warriors).

by jonathannn on Feb 24, 2011 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think last years team completely healthy might have been better than this years team.

Monta would be the X factor though.

And i really do mean that.

Curry/Watson
Monta/Morrow
Buike/Maggette
Randolph/Wright
Biedrins/Turiaf
That’s a team that doesn’t have much top talent but all around…could be similar to Rockets in last couple of years.

Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 24, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know about better, but they wouldn’t be far off. Freed of injuries and smallball, last year’s lineup probably had 35 wins in it… the current crop doesn’t seem like it’ll get far north of that.

Golden State Worriers: Angst & Analysis

by onlxn on Feb 24, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Well there's very little difference between 33-37 wins.

Arguing over that point is semantics… but honestly if that team above moved Monta, they’d be pretty decent and really cheap.

Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 24, 2011 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I even miss Chris Hunter (although I would rather not have him play on the Warriors).

he’s out with a torn achillies.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 24, 2011 10:40 PM PST reply actions  

PR Move of the Year: Signing Harvard superstar/ Summer League allstar and asian american Jeremy Lin to a two year deal. Lacob loves him. Fans love him. The D league loves him…Brilliant move.

lulz

by DubsFan408 on Feb 24, 2011 11:12 PM PST reply actions  

A few notes

Jamal Crawford – If I remember right he took up about $14mil/year and had two years left. Espn radio said that Bibby was moved from Atlanta because their offense relies on iso plays rather than creative passing. Useful to score, doesn’t play D, doesn’t pass. We already had Maggette and Monta to do those things.
Raja Bell – He had no obligation to resign. Would you rather be on a team that could go deep into the playoffs or a rebuilding Warriors team?
Marco Belinelli – Agreed insofar as right now it would be great to have him as a backup 1/2 guard. I blame this more on Nelly not giving him PT. Always liked Marco.
Maggette – A necessary contract dump. Surprised we got the expirings. Building any kind of team could not be done with his play and contract.
David Lee – I wish everyone would just shut the heck up about him not performing, or his lack of D. He was brought in to be a low post threat. He is. He was brought in for his rebounding. He has been rebounding. Remember these facts:

1. During the free agency, the only way for the Warriors to get anyone of note is to overpay because no one opts to play for a team notorious for playoff droughts and terrible management.
2. People complain that Udoh doesn’t have Greg Monroe’s talent. This is true. Udoh has a completely different set of skills which Monroe himself lacks. If you’re looking for a guy that can go off for 25/15, we have him, and his name is David Lee.
3. This guy has heart. He played with a friggin hole in his arm because he wants to help his team win. Fans are basing his performance off of stats he got when playing injured.
4. He has character. Shown through his actions on and off the court. Lee will stand up for his team. He will sacrifice his body. He will be a positive influence on every player in the locker room.

The next time I hear someone complain about Lee, I want to hear valid options the team could have explored. $80 mil is a lot of money, but every credible sports writer knew that the only way for the dubs to get talent is to overpay, (Maggette). Saying that, I would like to see Lee bulk up a bit…..adding a few pounds would help him hold off bigger PF’s

Curry/Lee/Monta= Wins

by danielholl on Feb 25, 2011 12:18 AM PST reply actions  

I want to hear valid options the team could have explored

We could have done nothing. It’s really an option! We give Randolph/Wright some PT, all it takes is one of them showing some good stuff and now we have a very nice tradeable asset. Oh, hey, Utah, you’re having problems with your coach and PG? How about a nice shiny Curry + Randolph (who’s been showing some nice signs)? Oh, NJ is offering 2 1st rounders? What if we throw in a Morrow? At that point, we’re legitimately in the running for Deron. Or we wait (or maybe still lose to NJ’s offer), maybe get someone to take Biedrins off our hands (might have to include some talent in a trade to make it happen), and now we’re looking at a situation where we can clear out cap room to make a guy a max offer. Oh, you say Chris Paul and Dwight Howard will be FA’s in the offseason after this one? Interesting….

by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2011 6:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey Barry, enough of the nonsense and being Riley’s apologetic… If you can’t recognize his inability to make a good deal then it leaves very little hope that you would have mental facility to understand why others are being critical….

He’s not a very good GM, the goodwill that has been created has been from the promises of the new owners and Smarts ability to get the team to play competitively..

As far as DWright , I recall it Nelson was the driving force behind landing him..outside of that it’s the same old same old with the same old results..open at least one eye will you ;))

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

That doing nothing would have been a good alternative. Of course then we would have had the endless threads complaining about that as well.

Curry/Lee/Monta= Wins

by danielholl on Feb 25, 2011 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

We could have done nothing. It’s really an option!

The fans seem to be reacting well to that right now.

I am not a testicle.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 25, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha, true. If I was an owner, though, my priority would be to build a long term winner first, satisfy fans short term demands second…

by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes. Despite what people post about how this move or that move is the last straw and they’re going to cancel their season tickets because of it, that sort of immediate reaction is rare. It’s usually just talk. Similarly, it’s rare for someone to go out and buy a season ticket immediately because of a single move by management.

Wins drive ticket sales more than anything else, substantially more than anything else, and the immediate visceral reactions are forgotten quickly when wins happen. Satisfying short term fixes at the expense of building a winner is never wise strategy.

by jae on Feb 25, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s rare for someone to go out and buy a season ticket immediately because of a single move by management.

haha, especially in this low interest rate environment. The frivolous cash is much harder to justify.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 25, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

As a selective reader, all I read was this:
I dont understand how fans can be so impatient and hateful towards a man that is slowly turning this franchise around.

Whether it is sarcastic or not. I’ll take it to the dome and believe it like it was whole-heartfully spread across this planet as Warriors Blue painted success and permanently presssed.

That’s cool if you folks want to take the negative road. I plan not to. Maybe because I am absolutely naive and annoyingly overly optimistic that things will be alright.

When things go well it will die down unless you are born to think pessimistically and stay that way. We’ll win a championship and you’ll still find ways to complain. whatever. go ahead and live that way.

I just hope all of those who perpetually complain about this team speak up later on how negative you were.

Seriously. Chill folks. The basketball God’s granted us with NO MORE COHAN. We have Lacob, Riley & Keith Smart who I trust today and believe are doing a great job thus far for what we have. Ya’ll act like we completely suck and have absolutely ZERO WINS for the season. Be freggin happy or be more patient.

We didn’t land another SUPERSTAR before the tradeline. SO WHAT. i like our backcourt with Dorell with David Lee with Udoh and with all our players that want to play for us. Although it isn’t displayed through our current record, I believe this is a recipe for success if you impatient bastids would just chill.

Im RIGHT. You’re WRONG. I dont care what you say.

If you guys still want to be stuck in the Cohan past and blame that for our mediocrity today, then go ahead. It’s a waste of time.

The road to success takes time. We are learning from our history. We are taking the first step with new ownership and we aren’t cruisin’ backwards anymore.

Move on. Move forward.

Maybe if you quit expecting so HIGH of a reward you all would be a lot happier. Roll with the punches and keep your head up.

You will be granted with something greater than expected if you figure that out.

You all have different Warriors perspectives than me but still chant GO WARRIORS with me….

So for the time being. SHUT UP.

Thank you for your damn cooperation.

Go Warriors still.

 

ROMESdavidWOOD37 has taken over the Ongline. He's cool.

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Feb 25, 2011 12:41 AM PST reply actions  

Riley on knbr said cap space isn’t important , that is really dumb. Miami and NY went from bad or meh to playoffs easily through free agency. He said he’d buy 1st rounders . First off would that eat into cap space? 2nd off , buy 1 then deal it for Tawn

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Feb 25, 2011 12:44 AM PST reply actions  

congratulations you just made me like riley less.

but if he were to make a nice trade this offseason i will like him more…
we got a decent starting 5… i would like to see a defensive beast come in..

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Feb 25, 2011 1:00 AM PST reply actions  

of course he is, what are we gonna do?fire him and rebuild again?

by frankiecgsw on Feb 25, 2011 1:09 AM PST reply actions  

Rec

Riley is a stiff, he has officially struck out with the fan base and has taken all the optimism out of the air….Let’s give him some credit though, He must of listened to Nelson when he got DWright…..

This is also the FIRST STRIKE on the new owners, they didn’t have enough BBIQ to see that this man is over his head as a GM and not capable of putting anything together whatsoever to improve the team through trades…..

Also Lacob left RR in the front office which may end up being STRIKE TWO……..

Nothing like destroying all of the good will that was built up and hope of a better more efficient franchise..

Mr Lacob you need to take another look in the mirror because your not looking like the fairest of them all !!! Were beginning to see a man who is following in the footsteps of Cohan….

Were already in the bottom of the ninth, your down 3 zip with two down one strike and nobody on with Lincecum in his windup….

The hourglass of fan optimism has officially ran out with the passing of the trade deadline without so much as one decent idea to help the team but more salary dumps…

You sure knew how to talk the talk but it looks like you don’t know how to walk the walk…

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 6:15 AM PST reply actions  

What kind of censorship is going on here?

I just noticed that a couple of my posts were deleted where I am critical of Riley and of those that want to be his apologists…and was kidding around about it…;)

Someone has a trigger finger and wants to control everyones opinions, that does not make for objectivity….

I am reminded of the words of another great men ;))) who said, Give me liberty or give me death :))))))

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 10:17 AM PST reply actions  

Ah, pleasant reminder that it is Friday. Hooray beer!

by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Hooray beer!

 yeah, beer and a game we should win make for a great time out.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 25, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

"The time comes upon every public man when it is best for him to keep his lips closed."

That was said by another great man ;))))

Another great man as i also once said:

"If you can’t convince them, confuse them."

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes. Some administrator on GSOM takes their guilty little pleasure in deleting your freedom of speech. I am surprised this post has lasted this long.

by KillaContract on Feb 25, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeh. I must of steeped on someones toes;)) actually I was only kidding around, nothing serious at all…but I feel like someone needs to ring the liberty bell right now and let the people know what’s going on in the harbor!!!!!

I think whoever this administrator is he should heed the words of one Abraham Lincoln who once said:

"I don’t like that man. I must get to know him better."

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

The list of mods is at the bottom of the page.

by Missing Barry on Feb 25, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t know where to start, But I would say to anyone who is in a position of some authority:

"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves."

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

hahahahahahaha

Man Cryptic I love your posts on this thread so much! You make me want to stand up for our freedom from these dictators and start our own Warriors fan page!!! Who cares if we have to steal a series of Native American websites and give them some crappy ones, its our destiny to have our own website!!!!!!!

by freerandolph on Feb 26, 2011 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

“Freedom of speech” does not and never meant “right to post whatever you want on a private bbs/blog/website.”

by jae on Feb 25, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

"Freedom of speech" does not and never meant "right to post whatever you want on a private bbs/blog/website."

In a capitalistic society if one is only free in the public space it’s not real freedom. Someone can own almost anything or place but they don’t own men’s minds.
  Would you go to a party where the host says you can’t speak your mind?
   It takes a messy studio to create real art.
  Sure the republicans would love to control all aspects of our lives but they are wrong.
  A country can either have unions or rebels but it can’t have neither.

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 25, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Would you go to a party where the host says you can’t speak your mind?

That seems to be the problem with these private bbs/blog/websites, they becomes the private blogs for the administrators with very little respect for the ones that come to participate.. it’s why I actually spend very little time posting in these type of places…

I do understand censorship when it is justified and clearly violates the rules set forth, but when an adman violates the spirit of the site by censoring another post without due justification it undermines their whole foundation..this is why I quoted the words of wisdom…so that he might know that when he undermines the liberty of others to speak their minds in a respectful objective way he himself don’t deserve the liberty to speak his mind..

“Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.”

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

When you put in the considerable time and effort to put up your own site, you can determine what the “due justification” is for removing posts.

by jae on Feb 25, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

This is the only argument that needs to be made on this subject.

With or without the “put in considerable time and effort to” portion.

I am not a testicle.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 25, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I will respect and give gratitude for the time spent putting up this site if you respect the time and effort people take reading and posting comments.

by KillaContract on Feb 25, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

where I am critical of Riley and of those that want to be his apologists

Cryptic: you can be as critical as you like of Riley, obviously. I hid the post because I thought calling another poster an apologist and insulting his intelligence (“it leaves very little hope that you would have mental facility to understand…”) crossed the line into personal attack. Moreover, it was totally unfounded in this case, given that Missing Barry has never been a particularly zealous supporter of Riley. His puzzled response (“huh?”) likely mirrored that of most people who read the post.

In the future, please try to read other people’s posts and choose your own words a bit more carefully. Thanks.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 25, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

My friend Sleepy

My post was tongue and cheek with a lot of (smiles) and there is nothing wrong with saying someone is being an apologist, that is not a personal attack….

I know that Barry is not a real apologist for Riley, this is why i said it tongue in cheek…

You overstepped yourself friend, your not going to be able to police everyone else thoughts…I offer my apologies if anyone thought I was personally attacking Mr Barry…

When someone says “hu” it is my first reaction to say “Hu what! pay attention” in jest… your way off base sleepy one…

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh. It was the “mental facility” comment that I thought was totally unnecessary. If the post had contained something of substance beyond the personal shot, I would probably have let it stand. It didn’t, particularly.

I’ll leave it to the other mods to decide what’s “overstepping” or “off base.” I’m pretty sure any of them who happen to be hanging out in this thread will see this as a clear-cut case (they can all see the hidden post, in grey). If any of them feel the post is worth unhiding, they can always do so.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 25, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Just let them play ref. No Blood no foul.

This is starting to remind me of NBA officiating.

by KillaContract on Feb 25, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I normally do. I’m sure I took it worse than Missing Barry did, since MB’s such a good-natured dude.

Ah well. It probably took Cryptic all of about a minute to “compose” the post. If he wants to do so again — leaving out the shot at MB’s intelligence — he should feel free.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 25, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Cryptic...

I’m not sure why I’m replying here, but it seemed like as good a place as any…

I don’t want to speak for Sleepy, but I do want to let you know that we get a considerable amount of people coming through the comments section of the site who only seem interested in insulting others, stirring up conflict, and derailing constructive and positive conversation. If that’s not what you were trying to do, then that’s totally fine, but I hope you can understand that when we see people drop in the middle of a discussion to call out someone and insult them, it’s pretty easy for us to think that they are a troll (for lack of a better word for it).

In the future you might want to build up some kind of rapport with another member before going straight to insulting jokes. That way your (hopefully) good intentions will be a whole lot clearer to the target of your joke and the staff here. Thanks man.

by olympicmike on Feb 25, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

insulting others, stirring up conflict

I have always viewed sports as a civilized replacement for warfare and outlet for the Human need to compete. After all our team is called the “Warriors”. So what is wrong with stirring up a little conflict? And trash talking is also an underrated part of the game.

by KillaContract on Feb 25, 2011 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure man...

Go find a pick up game and talk all the trash you want. There is nothing wrong with good debate, and conflict, so long as those involved can handle themselves in a mature way. What I’m talking about is folks who’s only reason for participating here is to cause trouble. I don’t think Cryptic is one of those guys, but my intention was to say that sometimes it can be hard for a moderator to tell the difference when you don’t have much of a track record.

by olympicmike on Feb 26, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure why I’m replying here, but it seemed like as good a place as any…

I don’t know why you feel is necessary to jump on the long ranger here either, if what I did was wrong then whats your doing is double wrong, it might be the prudent thing to get to know me better before you try and set me straight, do you agree? whats good for the goose is good for the gander…

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?
I’ll leave it to the other mods to decide what’s "overstepping" or "off base." I’m pretty sure any of them who happen to be hanging out in this thread will see this as a clear-cut case (they can all see the hidden post, in grey). If any of them feel the post is worth unhiding, they can always do so. -Sleepy

Since Sleepy made that comment I thought I would try to help clarify our policies on moderation, and how you may have gotten caught up in the crossfire. I don’t see how you think I was trying to “set you straight” here… I was just offering some friendly advice.

Personally, I probably would have left your comment up, but I totally see where Sleepy was coming from, and how without further context it seemed like trolling. Now be cool and have a good time dude. ;-)

by olympicmike on Feb 26, 2011 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

olympicmike

I am not much of a known poster on the site that is true, but I have talked to Mr Barry quite a few times so I picked on him to make my point, not to disrespect anyone maliciously that’s not my style…

Also I like to see the discussions toned down without a lot of banter, and enjoy reading once and awhile and often I just look to see if Sleepy had something to say on a trade or something of that nature because he is well informed…so it’s water under the bride at this point…

But I have to say, some of my quotes from the Constitution were spot on ;))) I get inspired every time I read it, one of the greatest documents every written since the world began..and by far the greatest wisdom ever compiled for the start of a nation whiteout question, full of wisdom….however I know this is a sports site also ;))

I don’t post that often so don’t worry about me…I pop off every now and then when I see the team going in the wrong direction…it’s been a he—-of a ride…

by Cryptic on Feb 26, 2011 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, sheesh, I unhid it. You seem like an affable dude. It was hard to tell that from that post alone.

Anyway, as you say: water under the bride.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 26, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Could you hide that again, I don’t like the way it looks now ;)))

by Cryptic on Feb 26, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh. It was the "mental facility" comment that I thought was totally unnecessary. If the post had contained something of substance beyond the personal shot, I would probably have let it stand. It didn’t, particularly.

Again I apologize if that remark crossed the line, as I said it was in jest, as far as having no substance I must disagree..

I think we need an aggressive GM with experience if were to have any chance to rebuild in this century, I have paid my dues as a Warriors fan for over 40 years now and have the right to voice my opinion…unless of course that is not permitted on this site…

I see some fans jumping ship and some will be back, but to allow people to vent a little is not a bad thing and it might effect change when it gets out in the media…and change for this franchise might be a good thing..

I have nothing personal against you this is just my way of protesting for change, I always look to see your comments on the various subjects to try and get to the nitty gritty because you seem to have a pretty good balance on many of the issues, but on this one we may have to just agree to disagree..:))

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

insulting his intelligence

Thank God I lack the mental facility to formulate one of these offenses or even point out the, um, I can’t find the word, of the enforcement of this specific violation.

Dumbishard :(

Send me money.

I am not a testicle.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Feb 25, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

You sound like a real friend as another great man once said:

"A friend is one who has the same enemies as you have"

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

Resignation letter

Warriors brass really screwed up yet again what a disappointment and now they want these leftovers com’on man I’d rather have young D-League Allstars that never had a shot a.k.a Reggie Williams rather then these career expired over the top players PLEASE MR.LACOB MR. GUBER STOP THE SREWNG OF WARRIORS EVERY WHERE now I don’t have any control over who you can hire or FIRE but I do have control of me being a WARRIOR FAN and if this it then I DON’T WANT IT I would rather turn in my RESIGNATION as a warrior And go to the team that originally gave so many happy child hood memories the Chicago Bulls I’m done!

by FreePalistine1948 on Feb 25, 2011 11:12 AM PST reply actions  

Fellow Pilgrim

As a parting word from one fan to another and in memory of the Bull’s i am reminded once again of one man’s infamous words:

"That some achieve great success, is proof to all that others can achieve it as well."

by Cryptic on Feb 25, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

13 recs is pretty embarrassing.

by Bob on Feb 25, 2011 7:50 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

He knows talent when he sees it. Guys like Deron Williams, Gerald Wallace, Jeff Green, Kendrick Perkins, Carl Landry, Marcus Thornton, Shane Battier and Nazr Mohammad dont meet his standards. DEAL WITH IT.

I’ll take any of them over Troy.

by DubsFan408 on Feb 25, 2011 10:58 PM PST reply actions  

LOL. Nice. Anyone (like Lacob) who wants to keep Larry Riley does not know about "opportunity cost."

Having Larry Riley as GM is like dating an ugly girl who’s a friend of your sister because you owe your sister a big one. That’s the day that you run into the most beautiful and fabulous girl you ever laid your eyes on and fall in love. However, she sees you with the ugly girl and thinks little of you. Now, if you were with an equally beautiful girl, then she might take it as a challenge and be even more interested in you.

Anyway, the moral of the story is this is all Larry Riley’s fault. One of the biggest weaknesses of the Warriors is rebounding. So what does Larry Riley do before the trading deadline? He sends two of our bigs out for a second round pick and a guy who’s been getting dub-dubs, but he says that he’s gonna buy his contract out because he’s already been here. That’s really idiotic on Larry Riley’s part and why Larry Riley should be fired posthaste. Not only that, he says that he’s going to release Troy Murphy before the trading deadline. That’s another idiotic thing to say! If he did not say it, then there was the possibility that someone would trade for him. For example, what’s wrong with offering Dorell Wright and Murphy to the Celtics for Kendrick Perkins? Wright’s much better offensively than Jeff Green and shoots the 3-ball much better. Riley even said he wanted Perkins, but he could not figure it out.

"Go ahead. Make my day."

by callahan on Feb 26, 2011 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

Honestly reading over it again

some of the things that were meant to be sarcastic were kinda true.

Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 27, 2011 12:47 AM PST reply actions  

This is gold

Every move Riley has made has flown completely against conventional logic…how does he still have a job.

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by Tom Huddlestone on Feb 27, 2011 4:11 PM PST reply actions  

Except Curry and Dorell.

Everything else a failure.

Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 27, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

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