An Anthony Randolph Sighting

yup look what happens when he gets to see the floor

Dantoni is an idiot

by mekanikal on Mar 2, 2011 8:34 PM PST reply actions

You wouldn't want him as a coach??

by tandy on Mar 2, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions

we already had a more successful version of him

don nelson

by mekanikal on Mar 2, 2011 9:15 PM PST up reply actions

Good to see him have some success and finally get some playing time

That team could be pretty good and fun to watch in a couple years. They could eventually go with Flynn/Rubio, Johson, Beasley, Randolph, and Love. That could be a good lineup, but I don’t want to get too far ahead since it’s only one game.

by duballers23 on Mar 2, 2011 8:34 PM PST reply actions

Johnson

by duballers23 on Mar 2, 2011 8:34 PM PST up reply actions

if they’re smart, they’ll package those guys for disgruntled stars after bumping up their value by playing them a ton of minutes. they should preferably do so after drafting a top tier player, but there’s no guarantee that one will be available or that they’ll win the lottery that particular year.

by homer simpson on Mar 2, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions

Even the Twolves are better positioned than us. sure we have a better record but they have more, better young talent. We need to blow up this team. I’d package Ellis with Beidrins. Hang on to Curry, Dorell and Lee and try to get some young talent or draft picks.

isn’t Randolph a FA this summer?

by Balance on Mar 2, 2011 8:54 PM PST reply actions

Next summer. Yet another reason why trading him before the season was rather shortsighted.

by Spider Jerusalem on Mar 2, 2011 8:58 PM PST up reply actions

I'd much rather keep Monta then Lee

Lee is our worst contract easily

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by dubzfan on Mar 2, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions

unfortunately, Monta’s movable (at least for Mayo/Thabeet—both of whom were trade pieces for Battier/whatever they got in the Indy trade that got nixed) and Lee is probably much less so….. all i know is when the next Duncan or Lebron is expected to be in the draft, W’s better be playing D-Leaguers (and not the kind that can actually make an NBA roster).

anyway, on topic—should never have traded for Lee, they should have played AR a ton of minutes to bump up his trade value, then moved him. he could have been to the W’s what Al Jefferson was to the Celtics.

by homer simpson on Mar 2, 2011 9:44 PM PST up reply actions

or trade randolph and our 6th pick for cousins who is younger, bigger and cheaper.

by Balance on Mar 2, 2011 11:20 PM PST up reply actions

balance

I agree 100%

by be drier on Mar 2, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions

Blow up the team because one team is positioned better than us. Well then, we should blow up the team every year for ever.

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by KillaContract on Mar 3, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions

Wow

Really nice statline right there. All in 25 minutes wow. When he played against the Dubs a few nights ago he was terrible lol. Good luck to him (well only some good luck, because he’s not on the Warriors).

by jonathannn on Mar 2, 2011 8:56 PM PST reply actions

BOOM BAM BUM

It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...

by iStoner on Mar 2, 2011 9:05 PM PST reply actions

Who cares?

He had games like this all the time when he was with us. It’s just that all the other games were completely horrible and he was extremely inconsistent. That’s why we traded him. I hope this doesn’t become a regular thing that we get a fanpost about how we shouldn’t have traded Randolph every time he has a good game. If it does, i will personally make a fanshot about how Riley is extremely smart for trading Randolph when he as a bad game.

by luvmydubz23 on Mar 2, 2011 9:07 PM PST reply actions 2 recs

If you don't like to read it or don't care...

then don’t read it. No one is forcing you to.

by tandy on Mar 2, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions

some people on here

are fans of ex-players as well as current players, so we continue to root for them no matter what team. and after not really getting a chance all year, he got some playing time and produced like so many of us projected.

It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...

by iStoner on Mar 2, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions

What he said. I didn’t put up the FanShot to prove that trading him was a mistake… I just think he’s a fascinating player, in both good ways and bad, and I know a number of other folks here feel the same.

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by onlxn on Mar 2, 2011 10:56 PM PST up reply actions

I'm for sure interested

Always liked AR and wished we gave him more of a shot.

He was starting to play pretty well, hurt his ankle towards the end of the season and that was the last we saw of him…
Now we got David Lee (who is actually a decent player) and his gigantic contract (NOT decent at all) instead

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 3, 2011 9:27 AM PST up reply actions

AR has already had numerous better games as a professional player at age 19 than Udoh at 23.5 ...smh our talent evaluation is horrible.

Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Mar 2, 2011 9:12 PM PST reply actions

The worst thing in world was Riley's obsession with making 8 seed

to try and keep his job.

Lacob needs to just clean house now. We’re once again in a mediocre mess….

by tafkasam on Mar 2, 2011 9:46 PM PST up reply actions

Way to go AR!!! Happy for him

by Dro50 on Mar 2, 2011 9:36 PM PST reply actions

On the otherside, Monroe- 36 mins, 18 points (8-14), 11 rebounds

This could be our front court. Or worst case scenerio, MUCH more valuable trade chips.

Thanks Riley. IF you’re not gone come draft time, I’ll have lost some faith in Lacob.

by tafkasam on Mar 2, 2011 9:51 PM PST reply actions

LAcob likes him because Lacob wants to play God.

Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Mar 2, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions

Lets be fair.

Lacob wasn’t around during draft. This was all Riley.

Lacob’s been clear he’s in evaluation process this year. He didn’t make DLee move. He didn’t make Udoh pick. He’s going to judge at end of season.

In my opinion it’s clear Riley has to go. Bad pick. Bad contract which cripples our flexibility (much worse aspect), no trade creativity (all those expirings no execution cause we had NO young talent to attach to it except Curry) and on and on.

If Lacob doesn’t fire Riley I’ll be disappointed. But I don’t blame him for waiting till off season. Got to give a guy a chance

by tafkasam on Mar 3, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions

Monroe and AR would have been awesome

The even compliment each other

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by dubzfan on Mar 2, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions

I am actually starting to have some hope that Riley will be gone before the draft

I think the only thing Riley has going for him is that he will do whatever the boss tells him but with all the recent heat Lacob is taking he will be looking to get someone who has the courage and creativity to make some meaningful moves. The D. Wright signing is the one good move Riley has made since taking over and maybe the trade of Maggette. Riley has admitted that the Wright signing wasn’t really his idea and one of his assistants who knew Wright had pushed him to add Wright. Curry drafting was Nelson.

Riley didn’t get anything done at trading deadline two years in a row plus on draft night the fans boo’d the Udoh pick and it looks like the fans were right. Udoh may turn out to be a good player but Monroe looks a lot better. Again Riley’s resume of being Don Nelson’s drinking buddy and willingness to work for less than scale may have impressed the Rowell/Cohan group but I would think Lacob will be looking to add someone more aggressive.

by Mullin4HOF on Mar 2, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions

Riley

My biggest knock on him is that he doesn’t seem to have the clout required to negotiate the big deals.

I mean, really? Your hitting the phones that hard, and all you come away with is some bench players for a 2nd round pick?

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 3, 2011 9:29 AM PST up reply actions

Let’s go Randolph!

It’s just one game though. Everyone’s knock on him was consistency anyway (most of the time).

by belilaugh on Mar 2, 2011 11:03 PM PST reply actions

Why do people care?

Because AR was an intriguing person. Another Warrior big that didn’t fit well in the system. He showed us glimpses of brilliance as well as glimpses of sewage. He was our most intriguing big man since Webber. He had a lot of spunk and fire, he was tenacious. He was a likable player. It just sucked that it didn’t work out.

"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Monta Ellis

by ejdacanay on Mar 2, 2011 11:47 PM PST reply actions

Just watch, BW is going to get 20-10 soon too.

Can’t remember which ex-Warriors player not playing well in the other team.

by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Mar 2, 2011 11:52 PM PST reply actions

Baron Davis.

by tandy on Mar 2, 2011 11:59 PM PST up reply actions

Al Harrington

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 3, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions

thought BD and AH both are doing pretty well.

by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Mar 3, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions

wrong

thought BD and AH both are doing pretty well.

check ’em both out
BDiddy was starting to come around, but Al has been awful

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 3, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions

Baron was doing better with Griffin around but still shooting sup 50% TS. Still passing well, but overall he was better when he was a Warrior

by tandy on Mar 3, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions

To be fair to Baron, once he got into shape his shooting got a lot better.

His January and February shooting numbers were reasonable.

Of course, that doesn’t excuse coming into camp terribly out of shape …

by Ronaldinho on Mar 3, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions

Frustrating as hell and TOP reason Larry Riley should be fired. Entering

No concept for how to build a consistent playoff team. 2010-11 we could have had Randolph and Monroe

We’d have a much worse record obiviously so we’d be looking at another lottery pick. But our options would be better.

We couldn’t top New Jerseys offer for Deron Williams but Curry, Randolph or Monroe + maybe BW+ expirings would do it. Multiple young assets to build around.

And we’d have a much better cap situation. We’d be closer to 15 mil under the cap (assuming we didn’t sign anyone stupid) with a huge market of big men who a) would be more enticed to come here cause of Deron Williams and b) we could offer more money.

Maybe we trade Monroe and Curry and BW for Deron. Sign Nene. Then since we have a core which is prime age we consider shopping our top 5 pick (likely number if we didn’t sign DLee) to get another quality player. Perhaps we trade him for Iguodala/Gerald Wallacew/Granger? Perhaps we attach him tio Monta and get Josh Smith? I don’t know but it’s attractive

Or the second option We kept Randolph and Monroe. We look to shop Monta and Biedrins for picks/young assets. We look to play the lottery and build via OKC.

Both modes require stockpiling youth and only moving it for RIGHT players. You know players like Deron Williams, Horford, Dwight Howard etc. Not David Lee

by tafkasam on Mar 3, 2011 7:37 AM PST reply actions

Weren’t you in favor of the Lee trade?

by belilaugh on Mar 3, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions

Yes, I was

I won’t deny that. At same time, it was shortsided and I’m allowed to change my opinion.

I thought he’d make us better than he has.

I’ll also admit I didn’t realize how horribly backloaded his contract was. 10.8 mil this year, meaning his last 3 years he’s above 14 mil each. Yeesh

by tafkasam on Mar 3, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions

yikes

those last two years are going to be rough!
$15 and then $16 mil…he better be pulling down 16 boards every night

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 3, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions

Fa sho. I wasn’t trying to “get” you or anything. I am just interested that it seems no one is in favor of this trade anymore.

It’s too bad because you pro-Lee guys made me feel less pissed off about the whole situation. Now it seems like the entire board is constantly complaining (not saying that it is unwarranted or that I don’t do it as well though).

I think I should just go back to when watching the Warriors was like a big inside joke to me.

by belilaugh on Mar 4, 2011 12:44 AM PST up reply actions

my man crush for AR will be for forever

…

by The Art Of War on Mar 3, 2011 9:14 AM PST reply actions

Just curious

if we could somehow undo the David Lee trade for AR Turiaf Buike..would you guys take it back?

by The Art Of War on Mar 3, 2011 9:17 AM PST reply actions

yes, definitely

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by Evanz on Mar 3, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions

probably
…contract reasons if nothing else!

Lee is decent, don’t get me wrong, and I think he is better than he hsa been playing recently. But boy, he’ll be making up to $16mil in a few years; and that’s just brutal!

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 3, 2011 9:32 AM PST up reply actions

Yes

And I would take back Udoh pick for Monroe, George or Aminu.

We’d be probably 8 games worse (minimum) right now. but we’d have infinitely better trading chips. We would have been able to get Deron Williams in a package of Curry, Randolph or Monroe + expirings + picks. And we would have had more cap space to get someone like Nene, or possibly trade our high pick for someone.

Or we could go opposite route and trade monta too, acquire more picks to go with what would have bene a top 5 pick and tried to build like portland/okc.

Right now we’re stuck in mediocrity. Unless we hit home run of home runs in draft,which is unlikely at 9-12

by tafkasam on Mar 3, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions

We’d be probably 8 games worse (minimum) right now.

Really? I dunno. Through 60 games, I don’t think David Lee is an eight-game upgrade over the combined contributions of Randolph and Turiaf, even if Randolph didn’t get back to the level he was playing at before getting hurt last year. We’d be in better defensive shape with that tandem… Lee’s offensive edge is bigger than his defensive disadvantage, but it’s not eight games bigger.

There’s no reason to pile on, I guess, as it’s not like many people are still psyched about that trade. But the early returns are pretty grim. We gave the wrong contract to the wrong guy at the wrong time.

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by onlxn on Mar 3, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs

We gave the wrong contract to the wrong guy at the wrong time.
Golden

Id you don’t like that you don’t like Warriors basketball!

by tafkasam on Mar 3, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions

Give me George over all of them

I think he’s going to blow up soon

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by dubzfan on Mar 3, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions

I wanted to undo it as soon as I heard it was official.

by Spider Jerusalem on Mar 3, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions

this

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by onlxn on Mar 3, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions

this again

I'm looking forward to the Warriors being led to the playoffs by Monta Ellis AND Stephen Curry.

by Brownie13 on Mar 3, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions

+1

Leading up to the trade I hated the very idea of it. It happened though so I had to move on. Now seeing it back fire on us completely makes it worse

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by dubzfan on Mar 3, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions

I go back and forth.

Really, it depends on if Lee is going to be an offensive force or not.

He hasn’t been this year. How much of that is bad luck? How much of that is wrong system, wrong coach, and a selfish ball-dominating guard? How much of it is contact year effect? How much of it is Lee struggling to adjust against a steadier diet of athletic forwards?

I don’t know the answer to that question.

If Lee can be an 18/11 high TS% guy, I’m happy we have him.

But as a 16/9.5 average TS% guy, I’m not.

How much of what we’ve seen this year is a fluke? How much of it is the new normal for Lee?

by Ronaldinho on Mar 3, 2011 6:36 PM PST up reply actions

Nah, even Lee at his best isn't worth the contract because his rebounding while decent, isn't as gaudy as it appears and his defense is horrible.

Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Mar 3, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions

Well, hang on -

- I was responding specifically to the talent we gave up, not the contract.

I agree with you about the contract. I’m hoping the new CBA lops the last year off of it (which I think is at least a 50-50 proposition, but we’ll see). His contract is okay this year and next, but then becomes pretty horrible.

And it’s a bad thing if you are hoping the CBA bails you out on a contract before it’s even a year old.

But in terms of the talent we gave up, I’d rather have the Lee of the last two years than Randolph and Turiaf.

by Ronaldinho on Mar 4, 2011 11:20 AM PST up reply actions