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The Hypocrisy of the Bay Area Sports Media and Fans




Don Nelson was run out of town by the bay area media. One of their huge problems was not playing Randolph enough. I agreed with them and i still do agree with them but that in by itself is not a fireable offense. Consistently benching your teams best player for long stretches without any reason is a fireable offense. Don Nelson never did this. Do you know who has? Keith Smart

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Don’t you think it’s hilarious Nellie gets attacked by the press for not playing Randolph, and then Smart benches our best player Curry for no reason the whole season, and i hear not a word? What coach up 3 benches their best player for the entire 4th quarter when he’s having a great game, and then leaves in Ellis who was having (and had) a horrible game, and doesn’t take him out. Then after the game he says people need to get on Ellis’ level. I’m glad they weren’t on his level. If everyone on the team shot 11-27, grabbed 1 rebound, dished 2 assists to 6 turnovers and had a -11 in a game lost by 7, we would have been blown out. Our coach is an imbecile, and the stupid bay area media has said nothing.

It's scary you hear nothing about Smart's incompetence and more about an "unfair" hand he was dealt with. This isn't a valid excuse for such a buffoon because he has squandered almost all of the assets he had to start the season. Curry, Reggie, Lin, Brandan, and Udoh aren't worthless players, yet by Smart's handling of them throughout the season you would think they were. A team that is not very good, doesn't develop their young players, or play it's best players. What exactly is the strategy here?

The bay area media needs to grow some balls and use their brains for once and push for the firing of Keith Smart like never before. Nellie's ineptitude never reached the levels of this career assistant coach, who still can't orchestrate a rotation in March, an honest interview, or freaking evaluate NBA players. He's made it clear he believes Vlad > Biedrins, Wright, and Udoh this year. Last year he basically gave us all a big middle finger with his comments about Moore and that Randolph was worse* than  Moore (*only in his fantasy world where actual game production exists) and Bad Vlad. This week, his comments about the whole team needing to "step up" to Ellis' levels only confirms his current case of delusion. The end is near hopefully but you wouldn't know that with hacks like Monte Poole telling us how he's given us new defensive focus and has made the Warriors a place to be again. It's sad that people can ignore evidence to the degree that they consider improving our defense by less than half a point per 100 possessions is very good improvement. Smart's interviews make little sense and he sounds like a dishonest politician trying to sleaze out as many votes as possible.

Keith Smart is not fit to sit on an NBA bench. He brings nothing to the table in terms of tacticality, scouting, honesty, or basketball evaluation. He does belong sitting on a chair next to Steve Smith and Rick Kamla on an NBA TV set because that is where dumb basketball analysts go to shout praises of the wonderful PPG and nothing else. Seriously, he sounds more like Mark Jackson or Steve Smith than a Don Nelson or Jerry Sloan, people who actually know the game. He's been around the NBA for 20+ years and he still doesn't even get the most simple concepts a head coach is supposed to have mastered. That is pathetic, and his lack of strategy when it comes to tanking or winning (because he does neither well really) may have set this franchise back for years to come unless we just clean complete house and tank next season. He's given LAcob and fans a false sense of reality about the team, and hopes to clinge on to his job for one more measley, uninspired season so he can give crappy vets as much rope as they need, while productive young players rot away on the bench. It's hard to watch, and this is not coming from one of Nellie's biggest fans.

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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not to feed the troll or anything....

when you score 18 points in the 4th including two HUGE threes with under 5 seconds left its hard to say your overall game was horrible

by cmac13 on Mar 7, 2011 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

if you consider all 4 quarters...he had a poor game by his standards

shooting efficiency trumps shooting volume any day.

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by LostHawkGSW on Mar 7, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

as clutch as monta was

the biggest reason (as I see it) that we lost that game was because of his shot volume. he should have dished more to lee and the rest of the team.

his 4th quarter was pretty incredible tho

It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(

by j-spliff415 on Mar 7, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

So one good quarter is the requirement for a not horrible game now?

by belilaugh on Mar 7, 2011 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

4Q is what really counts, not saying the rest 3 Qs are not valuable

Name someone that had a better game last night than monta? David lee? well he had a
- 12. Is he getting criticized? NO

by macdreboi on Mar 7, 2011 2:13 PM PST reply actions  

All the quarters count equally.

Of the regulars, I’d say Lee, Wright and Curry all had less counterproductive (read: better) overall games than Monta.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 7, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

4Q is what really counts

With your logic, in this case it was OT that really counted.

With all due respect, I am a Analyst Hall of Fame candidate. If you are offended by my comment, I did write "With all due respect".

by KillaContract on Mar 7, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Dang, really? So points in the fourth quarter are worth more then?

by belilaugh on Mar 7, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

im just saying that monta got us in a position to win the game

even if he was part of the reason to why we were behind it is nonsensical to act as if we lost because monta played “horrible”. You rarely lose a game where it is 1 persons fault. steph had turnovers that led to easy fast break points. if he hadnt done that we would have won. Is it his fault we lost? NO

I think we can agree that if someone should be blamed for the loss its Keith Smart.
I just dont understand why the OP has to turn it into a post bashing monta.

Curry got benched, i hardly think that was montas doing

by cmac13 on Mar 7, 2011 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

it is nonsensical to act as if we lost because monta played "horrible". You rarely lose a game where it is 1 persons fault.

Agreed. Monta’s certainly not the only reason we lost, but he’s one of the biggest reasons. Personally, I’d rate him the biggest reason, or at least 1a/1b with Smart. As godawful as Smart was last night, it’s hard to for me to imagine that any coaching performance would have as negative impact on losing as going 11-27 from the floor with 1 rebound, 2 assists and six turnovers. But if there’s any coach in the NBA capable of having that strong of a negative effect, it’s Smart. I can’t think of any other coach who would bench his best player for the entire 4th quarter when he was rested, not in foul trouble, and playing well.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 7, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Loss is way more on Smart than Monta

Acie Law for almost the entire 4th quarter & refusing to pull out Vlad until he fouled out & NBA rules demand Vlad stops playing. This is beyond bad.

by srsrs on Mar 7, 2011 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Loss is way more on Smart than Monta

I’d agree, if only because Monta isn’t morally responsible for the fact he’s such a limited basketball player. He tries really, really hard; he just ain’t that good. Sometimes the shots just don’t fall.

Smart, on the other hand, is to some degree morally responsible for the incredibly arbitrary and ignorant decisions he makes night in and night out.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 7, 2011 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

refusing to pull out Vlad until he fouled out & NBA rules demand Vlad stops playing.

haha, that could be the NBA’s worst coaching job ever?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 7, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok.

We already knew you felt this way because of your comments in game threads and elsewhere. So I guess I’ll mark it as noted…again.

Where do we go from here?

by Brownie13 on Mar 7, 2011 2:32 PM PST reply actions  

for once

i agree with gov. im so mad when curry gets pulled out of the game and it just disrupts the whole offense, forcing monta to “take over” which means going one on 5 most of the time. Im sorry but i love monta, but maybe monta should be the one sitting sometimes. or maybe just hire nellie again so we can experience the exciting last half of the season of last year. heck we even won games with golden state d-leaguers…imagine what nellie could do with an actual team.

by bimmercirem3 on Mar 7, 2011 2:32 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty simple really...

Don Nelson was easy to dislike and everyone loves Smart.

I fear that he keeps his job longer than he should simply because the media and players like the guy. Shades of Tom Holmoe (for those of you familiar with Cal football).

by ERock386 on Mar 7, 2011 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

I've heard this all before from you

not sure what the point of this post is

There are already a zillion “I hate Smart” threads, supported by an endless parade of comments from you in every article posted in GSoM over the past 4 months

Yes, Steph probably should have played more. Yes, Monta missed a ton of shots last night and just kept firing.
But you know what, the Dubs still almost one that game last night…give it a rest man

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 7, 2011 2:42 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty much my sentiments. But after a game like last night’s, the ol’ standard GSC broken records do sound particularly appropriate to me.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 7, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Objectivity

I usually do not put much stock in GovernorStephCurry’ blog comments because he is obsessed with Curry and so his comments lack objectivity, therefore his comments are tinted and biased and personally I think he is actually a Curry fan, not a Warriors fan. However, this time I have to agree with his observation that one of the major problems with the Warriors is coach Smart. I am one of those fans who cannot make sense of Smart’s substitutions, player’s time management, playing combinations, utilization of player’s skills, etc. – For example, why would he start Radmanovic at center instead of Udoh during overtime at Phily? – Besides the technical aspects of the game itself, there have been several occasions when the Warriors come out at the beginning of the third quarter completely listless, uninterested, with no energy, which IMO is a mental / emotional issue. I don’t know what goes on at half time in the locker room, but I feel it is a coach’s responsibility as well, to motivate his players and get the most out of them. How many times in any sport, when a group of players really want to win a game badly, they usually find a way to do it, beating an oponent that may be more skilled. It also appears to me that on most games, the Warriors usually appear more tired and out of shape than their opponents. – Are the Warriors perhaps too laid back in their approach to the game? they do not seem to have a killing instinct or desire to win that you see in other teams.

Without trying to personally insult or attack coach Smart, I feel that he bears a great deal of responsibility for the current position the Warriors are in the standings and for the way they have been playing. There are too many t/o’s and lack of rebounding and defensive efforts, and what may be worse, the team as a whole may be losing confidence in themselves now and for the future. IMO the main task for management this summer is to get the best, proven coach available and start a coaching and playing system that will get the Warriors to the playoffs year in and year out.

by Roan on Mar 7, 2011 3:14 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Monte Poole telling us how he's given us new defensive focus?

 Haha, and very apparent in yesterday’s overtime loss to the Philly6ers?

Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 7, 2011 3:27 PM PST reply actions  

because it is statistically proven

that curry is one of the best 4th quarter offensive players in the game…both in points and efficiency.

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by LostHawkGSW on Mar 7, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

throw stats out the window after monta's performance in the fourth last night

unlike u I respect curry and Ellis and I’m happy they are warrrios I don’t question who is better because it’s obvious monta is in this point in their careers,

by GSdubsfan41 on Mar 7, 2011 4:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m happy they are warrrios I don’t question who is better

Aww, now that’s an enlightened way to look at it…

because it’s obvious monta is

D’OH!

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 7, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I like both too

thats why I want both of them in the 4th quarter. LOL

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by LostHawkGSW on Mar 7, 2011 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure by “best player” he was referring to Curry. There’s an (extremely weak) case to be made for Monta, but even if for whatever reason you consider Curry the Warriors’ 2nd or 3rd best player, it doesn’t alter the substance of Gov’s criticism.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 7, 2011 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Uggghhhh

Enough already. Everyone wants to question Keith Smart when they still don’t understand what’s really going on in the game. In fact I think the only way to truly know whats going on is to be the coach of the team and see these players in practice and know the plays that are being run and the defensive assignments and schemes that are set before and during the game and to know the players well enough to understand there energy levels and so on so forth. No one but the coaches and players know these things. The players arent complaining. So they seem to know where Coach Smart is coming from. Which just leaves you complaining cuz u didnt see binky play enough or ultimately complaining because of our record.
I understand the frustation but putting it all on the coach not playing Curry when YOU want him to play is a steaming pile of….

by Dro50 on Mar 7, 2011 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

If the players are complaining

You’ve waited way to long… good organizations act pre-emptively

by eldingo on Mar 8, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

.... defecation.

ROMESdavidWOOD37 has taken over the Ongline. He's cool.

by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on Mar 9, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Too bad the media isnt gonna read this

"The No. 1 thing (fans need to know): we’re going to do our damnedest to bring the Warriors to respectability on the basketball court." - Joe Lacob

by thecity23 on Mar 7, 2011 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

it is the statistical basketball nazi blog.

by dubtown on Mar 7, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Not really. There are plenty of non-stat guys on here. All styles and viewpoints are welcome. The only thing the mods ask is that you (a) put a little care into your writing; and (b) refrain from taking constant personal shots at other posters.

GSdubsfan41 failed miserably on both of these counts.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Mar 7, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm certainly content

More ping pong balls for us!

"We Deserve"

by YaHeard on Mar 7, 2011 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

Back to Objectivity

I think it is childish and devisive for a team to have players, the media or fans blame individual players for their problems and in the process antagonize players against each other and disrupt a team chemistry. A team is made of players and no single player is responsible for their total success or failure. There will be nights when any player can have a very good or very bad night, still, it will be a team win or loss. – Fortunatelly, I don’t think the Warriors have a good chemistry problem and I wonder if some of the Warrior players read some of these hate blogs from time to time and wonder or laugh about their stupidity.

The fact remains though, that the Warriors cannot win on the road, are not consistent enough and this way will never be in the playoffs. — The coaching system needs ravamping……..

by Roan on Mar 7, 2011 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

To give a better perspective,

If Monta played every season like he’s playing this one, he’d be ranked #15 ALL-TIME on the career USG% list. The top of the career USG% is filled with the best offensive greats such as MJ, Wade, Kobe, Lebron, Carmelo, and Shaq.

Why’s Monta hogging the ball as much as those guys?

"We Deserve"

by YaHeard on Mar 7, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

A team is made of players and no single player is responsible for their total success or failure

In a way you are reinforcing my second point. Wheather Monta, or Curry or anyone else on the Warriors is doing something wrong game after game, the ultimate responsibility lies on the coach to correct it, otherwise a player will continue his bad habits unabated because no one is telling him to stop it. – None of us really knows exactly how Smart is conducting the coaching and preparation of the team for games. I have the suspicion he may be too much of a nice guy and may need to be more assertive with everyone instead of making excuses for different players during press conferences after loses. Most successful coaches in the NBA today do not put up with nonsense or sugar coat their own players bad habits. Good coaching will make a major difference in the success of any team, even when the talent is not at a premium.

by Roan on Mar 8, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m interested to hear a informed rebuttal of this point

When a guy with a defensive pedigree like a Rondo makes a point of cross matching to guard Monta, doesn’t that tell us all we need to know. Other teams put their best defender on Monta, seems like a logical conclusion that they view him as the better player

I think the whole “who’s the Bes$t Playa” is pretty juvenille, but since it is inevitable around here…

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 7, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re assuming that Rondo is being matched up because he’s the best defensive player. Really, he’s just probably the best match-up. You can’t read into other teams’ defensive strategies too much. They each have their own philosophies and ways they like to defend other teams. For example, the standard strategy in football is to put your best CB on the other team’s 2nd WR, and then double the other team’s best WR. I know this is basketball, but I’m just saying.

On the other hand, the fact that an undersized point guard can successfully switch over and guard a supposedly elite shooting guard says at least as much about Monta as your point does.

by ERock386 on Mar 7, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

meh

not buying it.

On the other hand, the fact that an undersized point guard can successfully switch over and guard a supposedly elite shooting guard says at least as much about Monta as your point does.

IIRC Rondo was put on LeBron at one point recently, and he did a solid job at defending him

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 8, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

And that exposed the same weakness: no post game, mediocre jumper. You think a more complete player wouldn’t abuse Rondo in the post?

Maybe you’ll buy this: maybe other teams realize that Monta is the featured offensive player (even if he shouldn’t be), so they guard him more heavily.

In other words, teams don’t have to limit Steph because Keith Smart does that for them.

Regardless, I still think you’re reading WAY too much into this one isolated piece of info. Are we just going to conclude that every player Rondo guards is the best player on the other team? If he guards Jameer Nelson instead of Howard, does that mean Howard is not the best player on the Magic (rhetorical question- don’t feel the need to actually answer that)?

by ERock386 on Mar 8, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

well, I guess this conversation is over
And that exposed the same weakness: no post game, mediocre jumper. You think a more complete player wouldn’t abuse Rondo in the post?

are you seriously implying that LeBron has no post game? Mediocre jumper, I might buy that… but LBJ is a pretty complete player, man!

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 9, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Really?

I’m not implying anything. I’m saying it: Lebron is not a good post player. LBJ is a fantastic player, but he should be able to dominate in the post, and he doesn’t. He’s more of a point guard than he is a small forward.

by ERock386 on Mar 9, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

because out of ray ray and rondo

rondo can defend penetration, while ray ray can defend the perimiter…ellis is a penetration guy, curry is a perimiter guy…kinda makes sense to put your best individual defender on a penetrator…esp when smart doesnt run plays for curry to drive and dish, only happens on fast break when curry is calling the shots.

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by LostHawkGSW on Mar 7, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

another meh

you ignore the fact that team are actively working to limit Monta (not Steph)

I think the reason is probably more related to USG% (since Monta carries too much of the offense). Teams pick up on this, it is seperate from the “best playa” issue altogether

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 8, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Though I feel you've been a bit trollish lately

I feel you on this one. I was all for getting Nellie out of there for not playing Randolph (my favorite player) and overplaying our starters, i thought we would be getting a good coach. Smart sucks. Horrible rotations, waited for almost the entire season to finally bench Beans, and play Vlad and Acie over Lin. I seriously believe that almost any blogger on this site could be a better coach than Smart.

by luvmydubz23 on Mar 7, 2011 5:18 PM PST reply actions  

Monta is also the leading scorer on the team and takes the most shots by far…. of course you’re going to put your best defender on the guy the other team uses the most.

What we all argue about on here is whether or not Monta SHOULD be the focus of the offense. Many think, despite his ppg, that he is misused in his current role to the detriment of both the team and Monta as a player.

by warriorsablaze on Mar 7, 2011 5:19 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry...

….supposed to be a reply to above. ^

by warriorsablaze on Mar 7, 2011 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s funny because I want us to tank, and would support Smart if I knew that was the reason we benched Curry.

What worries me is that I think he is trying to win right now, and I cannot tell (which does not help his case).

by belilaugh on Mar 7, 2011 6:02 PM PST reply actions  

I'm pretty sure coaches and teams are always trying to win.

This “tank” thing that guys like to talk about here isn’t real. I mean, I don’t think it is.

by Krazee max on Mar 7, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Personality with the Press > Performance

Nearly every article published on Smart describes him as a nice guy.

Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s lots of media who think Smart shouldn’t be fired but don’t want him to slam him too much because he’s a nice guy & will be out of here anyway.

by srsrs on Mar 7, 2011 6:52 PM PST reply actions  

Totally

I made a long post at the beginning of the year about the shame it was (on all the pitchfork carrying fans and Nelson hating press around here) that Nelson was basically beat out of town.

How nice and good a guy Smart is, along with how “been around the block so i don’t need or care to ‘play the game’ with the press” Nelson is….all plays into this bigtime. Yes indeedy.

Which is just one more sign our whole Bay Area culture doesn’t help producing good hoops teams. We have writers who prop up lameness and rip a great coach because he doesn’t answer them straight.

Which leads to how vastly injured the last two Nelson years were (the two combined THE MOST injured team in the league, and that all right when the front office gave Nelson one of, at the time, the youngest teams to boot.)

Now, other than a couple of backups and a few games missing Lee, the W’s have been VERY healthy. Make sure you know this as fact. Smart has had WAY more to work with.

Hey bay area writers. Maybe the “better D” is simply from slowing down the O a bit (which Smart has done,) along with health to his best players and the addition of Dorell? Maybe?

OK, even if we give Smart the benefit of the doubt and give him that he’s “improved the D,” is it that impressive if they’re still lame on D and now worse on O? Sure, he’s talked about it, stressed it, “created a culture” more in tune towards D. But ANY coach would have. Even Nelson wants (or wanted to) go more defensive, but he didn’t have the players so he ran.

Nelson would simply have won more games with this team. Smart’s substitutions alone have cost them a few at least. Smart is not a leader of men. It just doesn’t exude off of him, at all.

I noted early on, vs NY at NY, that Smart seems to coach on faith and not rational thinking. (Sure, some “feel” can always be added, but ….)

In that game at NY Smart had Monta shoot 3 tech FTs, while Steph was in the game…3 tech FTs of which Monta sure enough missed one. That game came down to the wire, and that “decision” by Smart could very easily have cost the Warriors.

Is there a more straight forward coaching decision to make than putting your BY FAR best FT shooter at the line for techs?!

Now a simple, small mind would say, just like they are saying now with Monta having a great late 4th Q, “well, we still won.” But in both cases that’s not the point.

The point is they in both cases should have won easily, or more easily. The point is what it tells you about how Smart “thinks.”

And what it tells you is that the reason Smart has crazy sub patterns and allows his team to risk pts at the FT line on techs by shooting Monta, is that he goes WAY TOO MUCH ON FEEL. And it’s the same with giving Monta too much freedom/allowing him to be inefficient.

(By the way. With shooting techs, it is possible sometimes to try and “get your shooter hot” by letting him shoot tech FTs. But in that NY game one was really early and nobody had really got going so have your best, THE LEAGUE’S BEST, FT shooter shoot them, eh? To then do it 2 more times in the same game?!)

It is clear Smart is a nice, good, hardworking man/coach. It is clear the team’s whole “motto” this year was team unity after the crazy last few years.

So, nobody is bold enough to point out what is obvious.

Nelson isn’t NEARLY as bad as most thought, in fact he’s pretty damn shrewd (when his teams aren’t completely hurt,) and Smart is in WAY over his head.

by supersugarCrisp on Mar 7, 2011 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

we give up about the same ppg and d-fg%....so our D aint good either

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by LostHawkGSW on Mar 7, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

And that is what Don Nelson was doing with teams like this. Recognizing that forcing a square peg (“being more defensive”) into a round hole (our strength is O) would take away wins.

Sure, you build onto it by getting defensive difference makers. But, until then you roll with what you have.

Again. All part of Smart being blinded by non-reason, guided by faith/hope/will to “do things right,” or a certain way, in this case playing more D/slowing the pace, to the detriment of wins.

I mean, if his concern is to not get guys in bad habits and/or show the team he is pushing D, then have a talk with both players and management. Tell them we’ll work on D, groom the youngsters in practice and strategically in games, but if you want to win this year, looks like i’ll have to go with what i have and run a lot UNTIL we have the D pieces necessary.

I am sure Nelson would have spotted this right away. And i’m sure he’d have won a lot more games (and i’m sure people would rip him for not playing D when he’d have won more than Smart is.)

by supersugarCrisp on Mar 7, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish we had Nellie

We’d be about 10 wins better. Basically a good chance to get the 8th seed, and a much more dangerous team.

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
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by LostHawkGSW on Mar 8, 2011 7:57 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

this

you want your team to defend better, you have to go out and procure better defenders.

Maybe Smart (or another defensive minded coach) could institute a cultural change around this organization, but I doubt it.

Our defense sucks, plain and simple. One of the worst in the league.

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 8, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

It's not hypocrisy ...

… because last year at this time, nobody in the media was calling for Nellie to be canned immediately.

Once the offseason started, yes. But during the season? No, people recognize that there was a limit to what could be accomplished in that time frame.

by Ronaldinho on Mar 8, 2011 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

What's the point?

Everyone knows Smart is gone next year. Why bother calling for his dismissal right now? He’s a decent guy, that would just be throwing salt in his wounds adn it would have no impact on the outcome this season.

And I disagree with the comment that he adds absolutely nothing. He has been around the world playing and coaching for a long time now. I see value in his comments, demeanor, and ability to communicate with players. He may not be head coach material, but there is value there.

by warriorsvictim on Mar 8, 2011 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know what you guys are talking about

Keith Smart got Coach of the Year…

In my Association mode in NBA 2K11.

by Doctor Kajita on Mar 9, 2011 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

nicely done!
let’s hire the digital version of Smart!

I assume the Warriors made an amazing roster move as well? Somehow managed to win the title this year?

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 9, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

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