Baron Davis - Props to My Favorite Warrior of the Decade.
I love this man to death. Baron Davis should be the player of the month right now. Here's why:
Obviously, his performance does not warrant anything close, but the respect I have gained for B-Dizzle over the past couple weeks has skyrocketed, making the nostalgia from the We Believe squad even harder to carry. Baron went from bad to worse a week ago: once a Clipper, now a Cav. Instead of copping out of playing in a bad situation and asking for a buyout (see mike bibby, the dude reaaaaaallly wanted out of Washinton), Baron kept his head held high and insisted he wanted to play in Cleveland, even going as far to express his excitement publicly and embrace it in the days before his first game. What a professional. It's not like we're talking about a team like Timberwolves .... we're talking Cleveland - the city that as of this year is the most depressing city to be a fan in of any sport (especially basketball).
So I started thinking, if Baron could be a Warrior again, would I bite?
Absolutely.
Just to be clear here, I am not saying I'd prefer Baron instead of Curry. I'm saying I want them together for some very good reasons.
Do I think he'd agree to be our backup pg/sixth man? 100 percent. Would I want him there? Hell yes.
He misses us. The Contra Costa times had an entire interview where basically he admitted how much he regretted leaving. I forgot who posted this on GSOM, but it was comparable to a pointless breakup in a relationship. One that left us all wondering....what if?
And tonight I realized just how much I missed him back.
The way Baron played tonight was admirable. He ran an offense that lacks any offensive threats and produced high levels of production when he was on the court, especially considering Twan is out. Yes, his shooting was average, but he passed like a champion (his lobs were spot on, thanks Blake Griffin) and despite only being in Cleveland for week and a half, he is already the CLEAR-CUT leader of the Cavs. You can tell that he receives the utmost respect from the Cavs large youth movement. He was vocal on the court, speaking and connecting with the other four guys he played with at all times. And they listened. I mean, how many times did he connect with Ryan Hollins? Hollins can attribute the best night of his career to Baron, Mo Williams never would have been able to help a young guy out like that. Look for some crazy dunks from the Davis-Hollins duo.
Hear me out:
Baron would be and would have been the ideal man to mentor Curry, I'm convinced of it. if there's on thing that Baron made clear in his days here, as well as tonight's game, it's that he can switch masterfully between being a shoot first pg and a pass first pg - THIS, above everything else, should be curry's ultimate goal in the end. Steph has the magic touch on his shot, and I can only hope that he will one day develop the knowledge that Baron showed tonight of switching back and forth between being an offensive powerhouse and being the captain of the ship, thus creating the flowing offense that wins games.
BD back in the bay would be a catalyst for a very familiar style of play that we haven't seen for a couple of seasons. The ball would be spread out more, ultimately taking shots away from Monta and giving more to Reggie, Steph, and Dorrell. It could help remind Monta of when he was most helpful: when he played like a true sg on the we believe squad/playing OFF the ball and finding the open space instead of forcing the offense down the opponents throat. Boom Dizzle would also give the Dubs a chance to play Curry at the 2, his natural spot, where he would be given more opportunities to nail his sweet jumper and become a much scarier offensive threat than he currently is (think Monta numbers.... only the ppg's though)
If I could bring BD back, I wouldn't hesitate. I'm all for it. Contractually, never in a million years this season or the next. But if he can stay healthy in Cleveland, and be willing to sign at a significantly cheaper price, then he better be wearing some blue and yellow come 2013. And I believe he has the determination to do both. He loves the Bay, its where his moments of greatness are stored in memory At this point, not only would it boost fan moral back through the roof (i mean, he is our greatest leader and arguably our favorite warrior of the past decade). It would be nothing but good news and awesome seasons to come.
Props to Baron. Tonight he showed what it meant to be a true professional player.
Anybody else down to Fear the Beard ...... Again?
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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It wasn’t his choice to leave GSW, it was Rowell’s. And tbh, i know we’re in a crappy salary situation but in the end, his departure lead to us getting Steph Curry, a far more consistent/better player. And i mean this in the best way to Baron but Steph overall is a lot better because he consistently brings it. Baron trying his hardest would be a top 3 PG in the NBA but he rarely tried and instead gave it all up for Hollywood and weed. Just sayin’, he’s the best Warrior of the last 20 years, but he left at the right time.
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Mar 8, 2011 10:12 PM PST reply actions
GSW Baron > Curry any day easily
He looks like he’s trying a bit more with the Cavs though
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
You mean 2007-2008 Baron + playoffs > Curry
I agree, problem is we had him for 2 other years and he simply didn’t care. And look, he isn’t again.
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Mar 8, 2011 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
to be fair
the first two years were under mike montgomery and a terrible team….
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To be fair
Curry’s first two years were under Nellie, Smart, and two terrible teams….
by WestCoastWarrior on Mar 9, 2011 8:23 AM PST up reply actions
What?
What does that have to do with motivating Baron?
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
It’s really not enough said. Are you arguing that the Baron of the last three seasons is better than today’s Curry?
That’s an extremely tough argument to make, imo, particularly if you’re hanging your hat on “team record.”
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Mar 11, 2011 5:32 AM PST up reply actions
We all know that effort won't last long.
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Any day?
I would agree generally, but any day? Baron was so inconsistent and really only had a couple of good years in his career. I would 100% take Curry moving forward over having re-signed Baron, which are mutually exclusive.
You are not a warrior; you're a beginner!
by Reverend_Randy on Mar 9, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
im not saying i'd rather have baron than curry
i’m saying that other than jason kidd or rajon rondo, there’s really no one else out there that’d i’d prefer to be mentoring curry into the caliber of player we need him to be. baron three years ago is what we want from curry now. baron transformed monta’s game into an off the ball, high volume, floor-spreading scorer who was impossible to defend. He made biedrins an offensive threat with a wicked pick and roll move practiced to perfection. He made stack jack relevant again with on court chemistry and offensive prowess (the second BD was gone, stack jack was pretty useless). harrington became less of a chucker and more of a strategic shooter (once again, went right back to his chuckin ways in 08-09), and guys like barnes, peitrus, and buike had more space to play with, and lets face it, neither of those three (especially barnes) has had a year like the 06 through 08 squads.
we saw the same thing happening with tonights cleveland team. ryan hollins, some nobody kid who averages 4.5 ppgs and probably way less per 36/TS and all that fancy stuff, had the game of his career pulling the same moves with Baron that biedrins did three years ago (except hollins has waaaay more hops for those alley oops). Baron, in the 30 minutes he played, opened up more shots than mo williams ever has for the cavs – lebron basically took every shot, mo took the rest. The one problem for the cavs tonight was that fact that they bricked almost every shot they took. look at the box score, three cavs (samuels, hickson, and davis) took more than ten shots. three more (parker, eyenga, and hollins) took 9,9,8. if cleveland had been a better shooting team and didnt shoot 36 percent tonight (none of which was barons fault, he shot an okay 50), they would have beaten us fair and square.
Now look at the Warriors box score. 39 of our 86 total shots, nearly half, are split between curry and ellis.
the point is this. when baron is healthy, and when he gives a damn, which for some reason he inexplicably does in cleveland, he is a master at providing shot opportunities for everyone on the court as well as spreading the ‘offensive wealth’ we’ll call it. curry hasn’t learned how to do this and the time is now to teach him. What makes point guards like Nash, Paul, Rondo, and Baron special (especially in tonights case and when he’s healthy), is their ability to run the court and be in complete control of their offenses. they make it easier for every player to play at their highest level, but as with all three of the previous examples, if the offense doesn’t click, they can turn on the scoring themselves and carry most of the load.
curry has no problem scoring. but his lack of leadership, combined with his seemingly one track shoot first mentality, equates to losing ways such as way to many shots being taken by monta, who on the we believe squad and his comeback player of the year season, took considerably less shots and still managed to score 18-20 a game. dorrell usually takes 9-12 shots total a night maybe hitting a couple 3’s and a mid range, but missing the rest, nothing too flashy. david lee must consistantly miss his own shots becuase the lack of ball movement allows opposite big man to croud the post, so the only method of scoring for him is having to fight for the offensive board and putback or the mid range jumper. this is different from when he was in new york and could go 20-10 a game, where lee consistantly played with guys like chandler and robinson, who in no way are offensive superstars, but are still recognized as guys who utilize space more and be able to quickly move the ball around to create much more scoring oppurtunities for the guys like harrington and lee (honestly, the reason that denver is so much better without carmelo and with chandler at the sf is for that reason exactly. anthony was an offensive horse, but had no eye for how to work in a unit with all four guys on the court. he strives with billups, but thats because chauncey is a pro at exactly what i’m pointing out baron is. without anthony, the nuggets now start three young guys in lawson, afflalo, and chandler and a big man in nene who know how to move a basketball fluidly and efficiently around the court in order to maximize scoring opportunities for everyone. but thats a whole different team, so whole different story). non confident scorers like udoh will not get the space they need down low to gain any semblance of confidence under the hoop if curry continues to mature into a shoot first point guard with a strictly offensive mindset with little else to offer. yes, curry’s advanced stats prove that he is best player on the team because he is player that statistically helps us win the most. but if he doesnt expand his game to the type of play baron had three years ago, or the snapshot of last night, he will do nothing to help anybody else statistically become better at helping us win
this is why baron would be an ideal backup and mentor to curry. this is why baron was always so revered by GM’s and coaches as having so much explosive potential and worth such a risk contractually. this is why we should bring him back when his contract is up. trust me, he wont even ask for a quarter of what LA gave him unless he turns into the second coming of lebron in cleveland.
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
by j-spliff415 on Mar 9, 2011 1:35 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Baron can't even keep his own head in the game let alone someone else's.
other than jason kidd or rajon rondo, there’s really no one else out there that’d i’d prefer to be mentoring curry
Why not Nash? He is much much much more professional that Davis. Davis had his chance to mentor Monta. Are you happy with that result? Does he have any history of successfully mentoring a backup pg? I really liked Baron as a player but have real doubt that he has much interest in mentoring someone he is competing with for minutes. I would prefer a new coach to be the primary mentor to Curry. Besides Curry’s other mentor is his dad. If you are talking about making films then perhaps Baron is a better mentor.
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by KillaContract on Mar 9, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
. if cleveland had been a better shooting team and didnt shoot 36 percent tonight (none of which was barons fault, he shot an okay 50), they would have beaten us fair and square.
Yeah, I got the same impression . Cleveland had the shots but couldn’t make them.and I’d take Boom and that hollins kid for something like WTF and DRE. Boom could take the pressure off Binky and let him develop at his own pace.
Lights please, lights please, turn off the lights.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Mar 9, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
who is “WTF”?
that is an awesome nickname, I think it would work for most of the team though!
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 9, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Why should we take him back?
He’s getting old, he’s unmotivated, he doesn’t care about defense, he doesn’t care about his weight, his shooting is declining, and quite frankly at times it seems he doesn’t care about basketball.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Monta Ellis
he's motivated
he’s classy, and if you read everything i wrote, the dude knows how to run a basketball team. injury slowed him in LA, but that was unlucky. We played cleveland game….CLEVELAND!! everytime he was on the court, the cavs outplayed us and went on scoring runs. he completely transforms they’re offensive game when he’s on the court
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
injury slowed him in LA, but that was unlucky.
Injury and BDizzle go hand in hand. Remember “injury” was the only reason the Warriors were able to get him in the first place.
And of course he regrets the move. He totally fell off while in L.A.
by WestCoastWarrior on Mar 9, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions
why should we take him back? ...sounds like he would fit right in!
He’s getting old, he’s unmotivated, he doesn’t care about defense, he doesn’t care about his weight, his shooting is declining, and quite frankly at times it seems he doesn’t care about basketball.
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
by Duby Dub Dubs on Mar 9, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
ummm....?
If I could bring BD back, I wouldn’t hesitate. I’m all for it. Contractually, never in a million years this season or the next…he better be wearing some blue and yellow come 2013
ow…you think he is old and slow now…give it two more seasons.
Love him, but this is a bad idea. In a vacuum, yeah, I’d love to have the bearded one back. But that contract, and then his age and knee/general worn-out body condition
HELL NO
I might agree though that he has been my favorite Dub in the past 10 years
"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep
Baron will always be one of my favorite players
nothing he does from now on will ever make me forget what he did for us while he was here. I love Baron Davis …NH

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