Recap #76: Golden State Warriors 91 @ Memphis Grizzlies 110 - What's Worse than a Two Day Old Bagel?
I wouldn't come back to this after two days... So why am I revisiting this game?
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I'm sure only the most hardcore Warriors fans in the universe would actually read a stale recap about a bad game that happened two days ago, in the final stretch of another lost season, but hey, that's what we are here for! Hit the jump to have a seat at the support group. Don't forget to start off with "Hi, my name is ______ and I am a Warriors fan."
Before we get started let's take a quick trip down memory lane...
NBA Free Agency 2010, Day 1: It's kind of like eating leftovers before the main course
It's finally here!! The 2010 free agency period that teams have been preparing for for years now is upon us. General managers around the league have been dumping long term contracts and dreaming of writing big checks on this golden day since the first time someone noticed that King James, Bosh, Wade and company would all be hitting the market at the same time. The expectation was that since LeBron was the best player available he would likely be the first to sign, and shortly after the rejected suitors would all scramble for the sloppy seconds. Interestingly enough as day one winds down the big winners are Rudy Gay ($81.6 million over 5 years) and John Salmons ($39 million over 5 years). Hmm...
"You wanna pay me how much?"
So what is the strategy here? Are these smaller market teams really worried about the teams with tons of cap space swooping in and signing their players? When you consider that the Hawks have already offered Joe Johnson a five year max deal (presumably saving the sixth year as a bargaining chip) it sure seems like this relatively young free agent period is off to a strange start. I mean, who ever decided that Joe Johnson was worth a max deal in the first place? I think the whole idea started when someone asked what the disappointed teams might do with all their unused cap space. So when exactly did NBA free agency 2010 get turned upside-down?
Well, if you flash back to the present and see that the Grizzlies are now firmly entrenched in the playoff hunt, you might actually think myself and others were coming down a little hard on the Grizz front office back in July. That is, until you notice that Rudy Gay has spent a good deal of this playoff push on the injured reserve, and his $13.6 million worth of production has been made up for by Tony Allen and Sam Young's combined $3.9 million in salary without skipping a beat.
So what is the lesson here?
I think we as fans (and hopefully our beloved franchises front office) should be trying to take away whatever lessons we can from the teams we come across throughout the season, and if I had to sum this one up I'd say:
Just because a guy looks like something special, doesn't mean he actually is.
Rudy Gay, has the kind of basketball body that you'd use in your NBA 2K11 create-a-player if you were trying to imagine the perfect NBA wing. He's long, lean, and athletic. He looks really good dunking the ball on the break. He's not afraid to take shots. He has all the physical tools to be a great defender. He moves with grace on the floor. Not to mention, he has a nice marketable smile, and seems like a pretty cool guy.
The problem is, despite all the skills and physical gifts, it turns out he's just not that good at anything. Yeah, he's kinda good at most things, but he just doesn't really impact the game in a meaningful way. And that is exactly why you can give his minutes to a couple of young, cheap, hard-nosed, defensive wings and win just as many games.
Do I have to? Okay, okay... Um...
Jeremy Lin?
I guess he looked pretty good in limited time, and he was the only Warrior to come out on the right side of the ol' plus/minus with a gaudy +2. Jeremy, when you are done beasting on Chipotle burrito bowls feel free to finish that bagel.
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Really?
A post-game thread used to pretty much just take a shot at Rudy Gay? Boo. Why even do one?
Where do we go from here?
Not really...
I don’t have anything against Gay as a player. I don’t think I took a shot at him at all. The game preview and recap were both about the strategy of building a team.
Alright.
It just seems that a Warriors game recap shouldn’t focus on Rudy Gay when he’s not playing. Especially if the focus on him is clearly negative. He was a really good player for them all season. It sucks for them and for him that he’s missing their playoff run. They don’t care that he’s getting paid $80 million (whether he deserves it or not). We really shouldn’t either.
However, I did miss the connection between this and the preview. Sorry for being so quick to accuse you of taking a shot at him.
Where do we go from here?
Oh yeah dude. Rudy Gay is awesome. He scores lots of points. He must be the Grizzlies best player just like Monta Ellis' is our best player.
"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 1, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Um.
I think you might want to read BOTH of my posts again. The closest thing to a compliment I gave Rudy Gay was “He was a really good player for them all season long.” Not sure how that translates to he’s awesome or their best player. Zach Randolph has actually been their best player.
Monta’s got nothing to do with this. Don’t know why you would bring him up.
Stop acting like a fool. It’s annoying. I know you’re trying to find something you can call bullshit on with me, because I call yours every single time. But this is really annoying. In the other thread you just didn’t have an answer anymore. Now this? I haven’t attacked you or your opinions (arguing against them is not attacking them) in the slightest way since the day I found out your age. Seriously, enough. If you want to talk basketball with me, just do it. I don’t need you to try to invent things I never said just because you don’t like me and I don’t put up with all the things you say.
I mean, earlier today you said “Be quiet” and “You don’t know me, Kobe.” What kind of childish response is that? I’m not going to stoop to that. I’m sorry if I went too far in insulting your opinions before. I shouldn’t have done that. But coming at me with comments like that all the time isn’t going to get you anywhere. I’m here to talk basketball. These are my opinions. If somebody is going to try to plaster bias all around the site, I’m going to call them on it. If you feel like you’re not being biased, make the argument that you aren’t. Then be done with it.
Where do we go from here?
by Brownie13 on Apr 1, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dunno, there seems to be a trend with your opinions.
Leading scorer = best player on team.
"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 2, 2011 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Please read everything. Not just the first paragraph.
I could care less who you think that I think is the Grizzlies best player. Just stop making clueless arguments about things you don’t know about. READ.
Where do we go from here?
I do read.
But i know you say certain things to look good, because you want to get as many rec’s a possible from the fellow Monta/PPG lovers who love to give me crap. And i also hate the Lakers and Kobe, and as a Laker fan this offends you (even though you are on a Warriors website). Give up the act.
"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!
by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 2, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Act?
He doesn’t have an act, calling him Kobe and a Laker fan is an act
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
by dubzfan on Apr 2, 2011 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
It just seems that a Warriors game recap shouldn’t focus on Rudy Gay when he’s not playing.
Here’s the thing, at this point in the season I’m going to write about whatever I find interesting. There isn’t really a need to break down each game, especially when I’m not able to get the recap up in a reasonable time frame. I do find it interesting that the Grizz don’t seem to be missing him all that much, especially after they made such a heavy financial investment in him.
It sucks for them and for him that he’s missing their playoff run.
Yeah, absolutely. I do feel bad for the guy. I never like to see a guy go down with injury, but it’s particularly painful when it happens when you are about to play the most meaningful basketball of your career.
They don’t care that he’s getting paid $80 million
Well, I think they should, and it certainly doesn’t hurt for us to think about it. With the uncertainty of the new CBA, and our new ownership currently putting together their strategy, I can’t think of anything more important to discuss than how to build, or more appropriately rebuild, a team.
The subject of this post might be a relatively unimportant point, but it goes along with the point that I’d like to see this team get cheap, young, tough, and oozing with upside, until we can find a legit franchise player. If we have a player that doesn’t fit at least two of those criteria then I’d rather part ways, and move on if possible. No more big financial commitments to less than great players, until we can find a great player.
by olympicmike on Apr 2, 2011 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Again, no need to be concerned about Lin
Lin would be a decent backup pg on certain teams, just not the W’s. Look for him to end up in LA or Texas. Even if a new contract is offered, the negativity surrounding him (“marketing move”) means he should look somewhere else to continue his career
We should concerned that Warriors suck
We should concerned that Warriors suck

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