Monta Ellis' new hit single - Full Time Grind ft. Bun B what ya'll think?

Why would he think he could rap,

he can barely talk.

by 123707THIZZ on Apr 25, 2011 1:00 PM PDT reply actions

Monta comes in at 3:15

hah, “1000 jump shots, run back, do it again”

by tafkasam on Apr 25, 2011 1:00 PM PDT reply actions

Damn, Monta can get Bun B on a track? It’s ridiculous the amount of opportunities you have as an artist from just being famous for something else (see: Drake).

by belilaugh on Apr 25, 2011 1:23 PM PDT reply actions

Anyone can get anyone if you have the cash.

by Spider Jerusalem on Apr 25, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions

you talking about degrassi?

Actor or not, Drake can spit and sounds good doing it. Although no doubt it helped him jump start his rap career.

by enjoi on Apr 25, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Drake...

2nd most annoying voice in Rap. 1st is the voice he copied, Lil Wayne.

by miguelp on Apr 25, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 25, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions

really think they're the worst?

What about waka flocka? And back in the day: Mase. He sounded perennially tired.

‘Course if you’re annoyed by two of the most popular rappers right now, then things get really annoying.

by enjoi on Apr 25, 2011 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions

I honestly don't listen to modern day mainstream rap anymore.

Even guys like Lupe Fiasco have started to turn for the worst.

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 25, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions

all about the underground!

Binary Star, Eyedea, Louis Logic, Elzhi

even Xzibits old shit was good

by Anonymous1337 on Apr 26, 2011 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions

Zion I.

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 26, 2011 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions

Zion I is very mainstream sounding

Just because they haven’t made it big yet doesn’t change that.

Seen then live though. They put on a good show.

Anyway I have no hatred for Lil wayne or Drake. They are just massively overplayed which is annoying

by tafkasam on Apr 26, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions

That doesn't change the fact they're very good.

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 26, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions

I know

But I’m saying if you heard “the bay” everytime you started your car on 5 different radio stations (like lil wayne or Drake) you might think differently.

Lil Wayne and Drake are annoyingly unavoidable, but I liked both initially before they got super mainstream play

by tafkasam on Apr 26, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions

1) Degrassi boy and Lil Wayne do not rap. They half sing/half mumble with various filters over the vocal track to make it less horrible. They are the Rebecca Blacks of rap.

2) Zion is is not mainstream at all. Nobody who has a song called “Bird’s Eye View” that samples the Alan Parsons Project can be referred to as mainstream. That’s a rule.

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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Apr 26, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions

alright guy

I was so close to using birds eye view as my example. Both those songs are 100% mainstream sounding. They could EASILY be on radio and wild949. Nothing using alan parsons project sample can be considered mainstream? “HEARTLESS” by Kanye uses Alan Parsons sample…

My point was it has a mainstream sound to it. Just because it isn’t yet doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a mainstream sound.

I never said I cared for Drake or Lil Wayne, but I don’t think they are bad. Nor do I need to hate on them to prove I know more about music.

personally I’d rather listen to Hiero than that stuff but w/e.

by tafkasam on Apr 27, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions

True, but Lupe was forced to make more

Mainstream music by his record label.

by fremontfan1 on Apr 26, 2011 10:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions

Hate lil waynes voice, its worse than monta's

Drakes voice is ok though,

by fremontfan1 on Apr 26, 2011 10:32 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions

Atlantic records screwed over Lupe

Still one of my favorites, listen to the stuff that got cut off the album

My top 5 :

1. Kanye
2. Cudi
3. Lupe
4. B.o.B
5. Zion I

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Apr 26, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions

I don't like B.o.B.

But the rest of your list if very much the same as mine.

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 26, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions

And i mean for the popular rapper types.

Not necessarily rap in general.

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 27, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Love Kanye and Cudi

by fremontfan1 on Apr 26, 2011 3:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

You guys must be like twelve years old! Do your homework! If KRS-one saw this list his head would probably explode.

Here is a legitimate list, based on MC skills, as opposed to commercial success (Kanye is one of the worst rappers of all time. His analogies suck, and his cadence is off, etc.):

1)Mikah 9 (If you don’t know about Freestyle Fellowship or The Good Life scene, you’re missing out on some of the best hip-hop ever.):From a lyrical and rhythmic standpoint, this dude beats every other MC ever, easily, and he freestyled all of it.

2)Guru: On the other end of the spectrum, Guru used simple rhythms but was amazingly eloquent and clever, and he was doing it in 1989.

Above the crowds, above the clouds where the sounds are original/
infinite skills create miracles/warrior spiritual/Above the clouds raining down/Holdin it down.

3)Rakim: There is no way any top five doesn’t include this guy. Rakim completely revolutionized the game and make Kurtis Blow et. al. sound like they were doing nursery rhymes.

Follow me into a solo, get in the flow,
And you could picture, like a photo/
Music makes mellow, maintains to make,
Melodies for MCs, motivates the breaks.

4)Del: How can you put Zion I on your list and leave out the undisputed king of bay area hip-hop? Del is right up there with Mikah 9 as far as incredibly intricate rhythmic delivery and clever lyrics. Yes, he often sucks live because he’s drunk, but he’s recorded some of the best rhymes ever. Hopefully I don’t need to include any examples. If you haven’t heard Del you’re probably somewhere deep in former Yugolsavia.

5)Kool Kieth: This is the only selection I would consider up for argument. His early work with Ultramagnetic MCs seems primitive now, but was groundbreaking. That’s worth something. His later stuff reflects his devolving mental state, which is a turn-off for many. Personally I think he took hip-hop to a whole new level with absurdist lyrics and bizarre song structures, but I can understand the argument that he’s too wacky.

Whew! Sorry about that. That was not basketball related at all, but I am a huge hip-hop nerd and that had to be said.

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by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Apr 26, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Kanye is definitely not one of the worst rappers of all time.

And i am a fan of Rakim and Del too. But wow, Kanye is good. Cudi is not really a rapper. He’s kinda a singer/rapper. I dunno.

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 26, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions

I’m not sure the last time I heard Cudi rhyme more than one syllable. Which is fine, but it’s really annoying when people call him a good rapper.

He’s just filling a void in the market, really.

by belilaugh on Apr 27, 2011 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions

I don't think he's a rapper.

He’s a musician.

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 27, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions

Kanye is an incredible producer...

But a mediocre rapper, at best. Listen to Talib Kweli’s “In The Mood” or Dilated People’s “This Way”, both wonderfully produced by Kanye, and also featuring his vocals, and both ruined by Kanye’s verse. He’s not horrible, but he’s usually not good.

by miguelp on Apr 27, 2011 5:37 AM PDT up reply actions

Deltron 3030 is one of the greats.

Kanye West is is really good. It’s amazing people want to deny his talent, look at each album, each one is completely different, I’ve only seen one other group/artist reinvent themselves so many times (Cunninlynguists).

Rakim is the only one of those guys that could be in an all time top 5 list, or a legitimate one at least. To say that Del Tha Funkee Homosapien isn’t up for argument against people like 2Pac, Jay-Z, my GOAT Andre 3 Stacks, or even the man you referenced KRS-One (no that is not an exhaustive list or close)? Come on now.

And really, KRS-One is gospel when it comes to rap? So I’m supposed to believe 50 Cent is more “hip-hop” than Kanye West? I’m supposed to believe Lil’ Wayne is the best rapper alive because KRS-One says it?

KRS-One is not some all-knowing rap god. He is a legend that was relevant in his time but has been replaced by people who understand more about the youth today than he does.

by belilaugh on Apr 27, 2011 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions

Can't disagree with this

Del: How can you put Zion I on your list and leave out the undisputed king of bay area hip-hop?

Ever seen him live? Free flowed a good 2/3rd of the show.

by tafkasam on Apr 27, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions

Whats a terrible top 5.

by J-RIDAH on Apr 26, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Freddie Gibbs all day.

by belilaugh on Apr 26, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yeah!

by miguelp on Apr 27, 2011 5:37 AM PDT up reply actions

Gibbs is the last hope to save hiphop.

by J-RIDAH on Apr 27, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions

I’ve honestly been listening to mainly Gibbs and Cunninlynguists (and especially Cunninlynguists featuring Gibbs) for the past 6 months. I give other groups/artists a listen, but once you hear Gibbs, all these other rappers just feel less authentic.

by belilaugh on Apr 27, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions

industry rule #4080

by notEdreese on Apr 26, 2011 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions

My top 5

1 Curren$y
2 Jay Electronica
3 J. Cole
4 Fashawn
5 Lupe

Clippers own staples center!!!

by ClipperBEAST on Apr 27, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions

J Cole is one of the most talented rappers to ever blow up in my opinion. Not the most talented, but to get to that level? There’s not many that compete just on pure ability (though he still needs to prove he can make a quality album instead of all these mixtapes).

by belilaugh on Apr 27, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't like the subject themes of his music.

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 27, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions

I think Drake is a poser

Drake is so annoying. I really hate him, hate me for this but I’d rather just give in and act stupid and listen to Lil B. Cause that way I can at least just be stupid and have a fun time. Drake is just an annoying pretty boy

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Apr 26, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions

Lil B sucks.

It’s that simple. I don’t even know if I consider him a rapper or a musician. It’s that bad. Worse than Soulja Boy.

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by Brownie13 on Apr 27, 2011 3:25 AM PDT up reply actions

I take Weird Al Yankovic more serious as a artist than I do lil b.

by J-RIDAH on Apr 27, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions

Me too.

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 27, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions

You ever wonder why Lil B can do songs with Jean Grae, Phonte, and 9th Wonder? Or why he can do a track with Cormega?

It’s because they understand what he is doing.

You can’t take him literally…although if you dig deep enough, he actually does have some really good songs.

He can go “legit” on songs like “Real Life”, and he can go “based” on songs like “Ellen Degeneres”.

No need to take him seriously, it’s not like anyone is claiming he is a good technical rapper, just that he’s bringing some much needed fun to hip-hop nowadays.

by belilaugh on Apr 27, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Yea I know I can't.

He treats himself like a joke. Still, I find it so hard to listen to anything he raps. It’s not fun to me lol

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by Brownie13 on Apr 27, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions

lol

Drake is just an annoying pretty boy

You have to be pretty to be a pretty boy.

Clippers own staples center!!!

by ClipperBEAST on Apr 27, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions

Exactly my thoughts.

Although I feel like he has only developed enough confidence to do his own thing recently. He was taking a LOT of style from Lil Wayne when he started getting his buzz (aka after So Far Gone).

But yeah, he honestly was not that unique when he started out, he sounded like a lot of other rappers besides the fact he could sing. His Degrassi ties really helped him out of the gate.

It’s whatever though, because he has gotten pretty good, so at least he’s done something productive with his partially undeserved success.

by belilaugh on Apr 25, 2011 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Monta should do a song with Waka Flocka Flame & Soljia Boy. LOL.

by Sinigang on Apr 25, 2011 1:50 PM PDT reply actions

I fully support his move in this direction

Hey, Monta, if you want to leave basketball to pursue your musical career, I’m 110% behind you! Go for it.

Please?

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by Evanz on Apr 25, 2011 1:59 PM PDT reply actions

Umm shouldn't this say

Bun B featuring Monta Ellis?

F the Po Po

by bojangles408 on Apr 25, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions

Is is sad that I find the Monta Ellis song more entertaining than Monta Ellis actually rapping?

by WYK on Apr 25, 2011 2:50 PM PDT reply actions

he wasn't that bad

but focus on b-ball monta

smdh lol

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by Brownie13 on Apr 25, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions

Honestly, it's not bad

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawkGSW on Apr 25, 2011 4:32 PM PDT reply actions

not good either

You know I spit technique to the freshest freak
Gimme a call you will see results in just a week
With the soul of a LOST HAWK
Is there a heaven for a Rap Cat, let's talk

by LostHawkGSW on Apr 25, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions

i think it was OK at best

but this is just one song. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has better songs than this one. In that interview with him posted a few days ago they played a clip from another one of his songs and it was actually pretty dope. Either way, he can rap better than me, so, respect.

It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...

by iStoner on Apr 25, 2011 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions

monta speaks english?

i thought he just spoke in lazy grunts

It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(

by j-spliff415 on Apr 25, 2011 4:56 PM PDT reply actions

I kinda liked it, actually. He’s not bad.

I'm the soul brotha' like no other!

by Naticus on Apr 25, 2011 5:21 PM PDT reply actions

I was kinda expecting an “UUUUUUHHHHHHHMMMMM…” during the rap.

by WYK on Apr 25, 2011 5:26 PM PDT reply actions

lmao

by GSWeri on Apr 25, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Beat me to it...

I was gonna say his next song should be called UUUUUUUHHHHHMMMMMM….

WHAT!??!?!?!?!?!?!

by true torture on Apr 27, 2011 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions

Mix Tape!

Somebody make a Monta Mix with this single hahaha

by Brandonhaha on Apr 25, 2011 6:29 PM PDT reply actions

he is coming out with a mixtape this summer lol

its about to be uuuuuhmmmmmmmmm good.

It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...

by iStoner on Apr 25, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Not bad...

For a Baller… Not too great, but it’s respectable.

by miguelp on Apr 25, 2011 7:46 PM PDT reply actions

I thought it was aite

and Drake is a horrible “rapper” in my opinion. That mainstream stuff is junk, only a few guys I like, but if you like some good rap, listen to some of that yay area’s best, j-Stalin, DB tha General, young curt, huaslah, the jacka, there is so many great rappers out here who don’t get that much love but there much better then guys like lil Wayne drake and jay-z.

by GSkush on Apr 26, 2011 12:03 AM PDT via mobile reply actions

the*

by GSkush on Apr 26, 2011 12:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions

&& roach gigz, mistah fab

by currysabeast on Apr 26, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions

lil b

by notEdreese on Apr 26, 2011 12:06 AM PDT reply actions

Apparently he's gay, but a self proclaimed heterosexual. Weird dude.

"Of course, these people couldn’t really have predicted...the joke of a mockery of a sham of a circus of Keith Smart’s nightly rotations. " - Sleepy Freud
Steph Curry and Reggie Williams all day baby!

by GovernorStephCurry on Apr 26, 2011 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions

He said the album cover is saying words don't mean anything

Trust me, Lil B is not gay

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Apr 26, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions

If words meant nothing why not name the album cop killer pt 2?

by J-RIDAH on Apr 26, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Nah he's most definitely not gay.

He’s just #based as hell.

by notEdreese on Apr 26, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Apr 26, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

rec

lol

by notEdreese on Apr 26, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions

he cant rap for nothing

like rhyme scheme is off and he doesnt make sense

All we need to do is win win win no matter what,
Got the Dubs on my mind I could never get enough,
and everytime they step into the building all the three pointers go UP,
And they STAY DERE AND THEY STAY DERE

by Dinney on Apr 26, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions

That is sort of the point of based rapping

It isn’t supposed to really make sense or flow

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Apr 26, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions

Then it's not rap? ...

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Apr 27, 2011 3:26 AM PDT up reply actions

Childish Gambino

Hoping to see the IAmDonald tour thursday at fillmore (awesome venue). At the moment it’s sold out though, supposedly there will be a late release of tickets. His standup is pretty funny too

IAmDonald Tour

Cool concept. How many half standup/half rap shows do you see?

by tafkasam on Apr 26, 2011 10:09 AM PDT reply actions