Warrior and Indiana pacers trade rumor

This trade would make us deeper forsure, but damn the pacers must really like steph curry. Idk what to make of this, as much as I love steph this trade is defiently in our favor.

We trade away Curry, without improving our backcourt size. We get rid of Biedrins’ contract and in return we get a longer contract albeit from a superior player. We essentially do not improve dramatically and do not improve our finances.

Collison
Ellis
Granger
Lee
Udoh

Vs.

Curry
Ellis
Wright
Lee
Udoh

Where is the improvement? I do like Granger’s ability to get to the line, but I don’t like sacrificing Curry’s offensive efficiency for another small back court. We would have to have another big guard we are planning on acquiring I don’t like trading Curry or Ellis for that matter just to continue having the same deficiency.

of the rumor. more like his own trade proposal.

there are a number of reasons why this is complete BS.

1 – Doesn’t make the W’s “Beefier”
2 – Doesn’t give the W’s better Defense
3 – Small Forward is not W’s weak point. Granger is not needed here.
4 – DWright is not a 6th man type.
5 – Trading Curry for anything less than an All-Star 5 (read: Dwight Howard) is insanity

Collison (not Wright) should become the 6th man with Monta playing the point and Granger and Wright on the Wings. If the Warriors do this trade and sign Nene they will be able to defend and rebound enough without any loss in offense to have a solid payoff team and maybe even a long shot contender for a championship.

I think r. westbrook may be attainable this offseason and Steph may be enough to get it done.
 
Westbrook is getting heat lately for not deferring to Durantula, maybe he is tired of being the Robin to Durant’s Batman? Thunder had been interested in drafting Steph and a core of Durant, Curry, Harden (who is under rated imo), Ibaka, Perkins is going to be tough.

Yes, Ellis and Westbrook together means no one else shoots.

What about Ellis/Biedrins to ATL for J Smith/Hinrich (works in trade machine)
  -Why would ATL do this? Its general thought that Horford is a better PF than C—having Biedrins (whatever is left of him) allows them to do that. Ellis and J. Johnson would make a good backcourt and allow ATL to change their offense dynamics. Having another playmaker (esp if Crawford doesn’t resign) who can take over will be huge. J. Smith, although a fan favorite, has been dangled in the past and has clashed with their coach. Plus, they haven’t had much post season success lately (outside of this year but probably still get out the 2nd) and Ellis’ style of play IS extremely marketable so maybe they put a few more butts in the seats (damn sure they need it)

-why we do this: get rid of the contracts of Ellis/Beans (smith has 3 yrs, hinrich 2) and change the dynamic of our team. Bring in PROVEN, playoff tested vets, and more defense.

Sign a C (Gasol?, Nene?), slide D-wright to 2, draft smart, get a coach and i think we can be competitive in the west. Yes, we won’t be championship caliber, but we can get there with a few tweaks.

PG: Westbrook

But I’d rather keep Curry first above all unless Superman was coming back to us.

He is pretty efficient at scoring. He gets to the line and he is a good defender. The problem is that D. Wright is all of those things except someone who gets to the line. I like Collison too, but I think that his defense is only maybe a small bit better than Curry, who is constantly berated for his defense despite the fact that he is merely a smidgen worse than mediocre. A combo of Collison and Ellis therefore is only a smidgen better than Curry and Ellis. Curry is an absolutely one in a thousand shooter, he may will end his career as one of the best shooters the game has seen, this ability is hard to find. If we are trading Curry we need something better, we need the one thing that is even harder to find than an elite shooter, we need an elite defender who can run the floor, rebound and score efficiently at center.

The best thing about this trade is actually getting rid of Biedrins contract. In my opinion we should not include Curry in a trade where the best aspect of that said trade is to get rid of Biedrins contract. Curry is better than this. I am not over valuing Curry. Curry could be the center piece in a trade for someone the caliber of Al Horford or even Dwight Howard(if these teams must let their star centers go.)

These are the things we need

1. Defense and efficiency at the C position
2. A bigger backcourt
3. Someone who gets to the line at a good rate
4. Better defensive rebounding.

We can get 1, 3 and 4 from one player. If we trade Curry it needs to be for someone that does that. Then we need to slide Monta to PG(If we are trading Curry) I know the offense is more “stagnant” but I have seen Monta develop better PG skills, I think with the right players around him Monta could be a passable PG. Then we need to use our MLE on a defensive minded SG.

Honestly I keep Curry at all costs if I am the Warriors GM. I trade Ellis(for less talent but more depth) and get rid of Biedrins at the soonest available time for whatever I can get.

Howard says he is going to leave. He talks with the Warriors, the Warriors have the ability to sign him long term if he comes here. The Warriors trade Curry to the Magic with other things, like 1st round draft picks and other valuable players. I didn’t mean to say ONLY Curry would be in that trade. I also think there is a 0% chance of this happening.

Curry would just be the centerpiece for the Magic in that completely specific scenario. Other teams would love Curry and would be willing to trade for him if a star was leaving like Anthony did last year. IMO the Knicks gave too much for Anthony… But in Howard’s case I really don’t think that anything would really be “too much.” Considering his ability.

Is Indiana the ONLY team that trades with the Warriors ?? Curry is a “nice” PG, but he will never lead us to the Promise Land. He is soft and does not push the ball upcourt. He does not put the opposition on their heals like Derrick Rose, Michael Westbrook, Deron Williams. I say package Curry with “anyone” that Orlando wants and lets get Dwight Howard. Dub fans do not want Lakers to get Howard. Howard will be our first legit BIG man since C-Webb.

I would expect this trade to reduce Monta’s minutes down to 36 and thus more in line with his career average then his recent season’s average.

Overall when everyone is healthy I would expect something like this.
Monta, Granger, and Lee 36 minutes each.
Nene and Wright 32 minutes each.
Collison 24 minutes
Udoh and 2011 #1 (I suggest a 2/3 combo player) 16 minutes each.
Non 8 Man Rotation Players 12 minutes total per game.

This will very from game to game depending upon matchups and when it is desirable to go big and when it is desireable to go small. In this rotation on average Collison will play the One 24 minutes and Ellis will play the One the other 24 minutes thus Ellis will still play the Two for 12 minutes.

Can someone explain to me how this is not a vastly impoved team that is very likely to make the playoffs and perhaps even move beyond round one?

a forum to voice our bored opinions… What do you guys think of D. Wright as a SG, is that possible? I personally think it could work if we did trade Monta or Curry and fix our back court size.

I haven’t checked this board in a month, and I come back to this? Ugh. I wholeheartedly agree with MB’s multi-rec’d post above. This trade is ridiculous.

Let’s be clear: if the Warriors make a trade this offseason, any trade, Monta Ellis must be in the deal. Period.