2011 NBA Finals Preview Game 1 : Dallas Mavericks at Miami Heat :: Head, Heart, Or Karma?
Throughout the leagues and tournaments I've organized, coached in, and played in, I've seen a lot of adults play basketball in my lifetime. This year in the NBA, I observed a lot of the lessons about basketball -- lessons which I learned the hard way through mostly painful losses and a few exhilirating championships -- come to fruition.
And now it's come to this, the 2011 NBA Finals against the Dallas Mavericks and Miami Heat. Deciding this one isn't any easier than it was deciding last year's duel between the Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers. However, I'm sure you can agree that there is a decidedly different feel to this one.
(Warning: this is another one of my excessively long posts, over 3,000 words per the automated SB Nation word counter.)
Instead of watching two storied franchises which seemed to have had innate, perhaps unfair, personnel advantages over various dynasties of time, we have two teams which seem to be reflecting an era of basketball while at the same time possibly ushering in a new era, with the Lockout looming and strongly indicating a change to the business of basketball as we know it.
You have the "uber-owner" in Mark Cuban, who some like Phil Jackson have said is buying his way to a championship, using savvy and years of experience mastering roster movement in the NBA to build a veteran, complete team, each player ready to fit into his role. And you have the "Superfriends" squad, the penultimate AAU team, perhaps the most athletic trio ever to put on basketball shoes, surrounding itself with willing and capable teammates ready to sacrifice personal achievements to be led by them.
As the elimination of both the Lakers and Celtics might signal the end of GMs "getting duped" into providing the last piece of a Big Three, will the winner of this series suggest the beginning or end of that particular model of roster construction?
So whom do you root for? Do you pick with your head or your heart? I tell you what, I'm picking based on karma. Yup, the basketball gods. I have dealt with them oh so many times. I think I have finally figured them out, what lessons the gods are trying to teach us. Some of them can actually be applied to the Warriors (more on that later). And yet, because I'm revealing my thoughts, I'm probably going to be wrong.
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Picking with your head: the Miami Heat
Did anyone see the first quarter of Game 3 against the Chicago Bulls? My goodness, that was LeBron James at full strength (i.e., not fatigued, right from the get-go) coming out and unleashing his defensive dominance on every corner of the court. That was perhaps the most impressive extended string of individual defense I have ever seen.
Dwyane Wade. Sure, he dribbles too much on offense, but that regular season game where he had 4 blocks in under 60 seconds? That is unreal. And we've seen flashes of that at critical moments in the playoffs (blocked shot of Derrick Rose).
When the Miami Heat are playing their best defense, it's very nearly impossible to score on them. We're talking not only LeBron and Wade's ninja status (actually a better martial arts reference would be judo), but also the help side abilities of Udonis Haslem, James Jones, and Mario Chalmers (seen them get a lot of charges these playoffs). And yes, Chris Bosh is indeed a smart defender in that he stays on the floor and keeps his hands outstretched like you teach big men early on. Granted, the Mavs' team D is pretty rock solid as well, from their zone thrown in by genius Rick Carlisle at opportune moments, to their spot-on rotations. Even Brendan Haywood -- not known for high IQ -- looked pretty good at times when he was focused in on the help D.
However, the Heat have one thing on defense that the Mavs don't: athleticism. Yes, I'll give Dallas the edge on the last-line-of-defense shotblocker in Tyson Chandler, but that's about it. And that athleticism works both ways, too. What's the only thing that can beat great-yet-not-so-athletic team defense such as the Mavs? The hero shot. LeBron and Wade have demonstrated in these Playoffs that they can bail out the Heat just a tad bit more with hero shots than Dirk Nowitzki and Jason Terry have for the Mavs.
As the saying goes, defense wins championships and while the Mavs' defense is stellar, the Heat's is "all-time great" caliber. If I'm betting with my head, I pick the Heat.
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Picking with your heart: the Mavs
The main thing I want to say about The Decision is this: I didn't watch it. I was probably too busy that day. But I'm a different cat. You see, with me, more often than not all I really care about is people showing up to their games on time, giving their all, and demonstrating sportsmanship. I mean that, literally. In my leagues and tournaments, I'm there behind the scorer's table running the clock and everything. From there, I see what I see. I've been trained by my job to make judgments based on that vantage point, between two baselines 94 feet apart, painted on a hardwood floor. I realize I am probably different than you.
Fact: There has been at least one person who has gone to jail for armed robbery, who has played in my league. Yet I don't really have hard evidence nor was I actually involved in the case. So I can't really judge anyone who walks through those doors coming to play basketball, unless they actually commit some sort of crime right there on or near the court. And that's why, for me, it doesn't matter whatever LeBron did to Cleveland. It does not affect how I watch a basketball game.
Not to go on too much of a tangent, but that's precisely why I can't stand Kobe Bryant. The arguing with the refs, the vitriol in doing so, the body language that suggests he is entitled to certain calls from the refs, the "under-biting evil chipmunk" face, those are all disgusting oncourt behavior, in my opinion.
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Back to my aside on LeBron: Someone recently told me on Twitter that "LeBron claimed Cleveland", then he left them, and in a distasteful way. Well, since I don't know any better because I don't go outside the gym, I would argue that Cleveland claimed LeBron (with the #1 draft pick), not the other way around. I would also argue that LeBron probably expected his fans, most of whom were really Cavaliers fans (a gross miscalculation on his part), to be happy for him in announcing his freedom to go play where he wanted, and with his friends Wade and Bosh, who happened to be all-stars as well, to take on such non-transparent buddy-buddy-GM-manipulated (sorry, Jerry West!) squads such as the Lakers and Celtics (Danny Ainge with Kevin McHale). Obviously, that backfired for LeBron, but I don't see him being as spineless as the rest of you do. And, again, that's because I don't get out much.
However, it does matter to me that Dirk lost to the Heat, at the hands of Wade, five years ago. Dirk has learned from that setback, as well as the subsequent victimization by Warrior fans' beloved We Believe squad. Dirk's dedicated himself to have nerves of steel in clutch situations and he's learned to never quit. This reminds me of what Andre Agassi once said about what he thinks made him great: "I just kept fighting." Notice, he doesn't talk about wins or losses. He talks about a single foundation of consistency. That ability to never, ever give up. We are seeing Dirk master that, right before our eyes.
On the Bay Area tip, it does matter to me that Jason Kidd has a chance to get his first ring. This coming from a former Cal student who had the privilege to camp outside Harmon Gym (now known as Haas Pavilion) for season tickets to see him play.
Finally, Mark Cuban. His picture ought to be next to "much maligned" in the encyclopedia of sports cliches. Yet, he's already etched in stone at the Temple of "You Only Need to be Right Once". I just love his perseverance. And guess what, he was right about Jason Kidd!
My heart says to root for Dirk, J-Kidd, and Cuban, and while Wade and LeBron have certainly felt heartache as well, mostly at the hands of the Celtics in recent memory, as well as the sea of hate after The Decision, Dirk and J-Kidd's ticket to the record books has been left sitting in the to-do box for quite some time now.
In the natural progression of NBA champions and Hall Of Famers, LeBron and Wade will have their time. Dirk and J-Kidd's window is now and perhaps only now. And a loss to the Mavs could prove to be more helpful to the Heat if we are talking dynasties. The deeper the pain, the hungrier you are. In order to put multiple trophies on display in Miami, LeBron and Wade will need to stay hungry.
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Succumbing to the basketball gods: Pick the Mavs
I know better than to pick with my head or my heart, though. After all, we have already seen countless messages from the basketball gods this season:
- The LeBron and Dan Gilbert pendulum shift of karma. LeBron's Decision followed by Gilbert's email followed by LeBron's return to Cleveland followed by LeBron's "karma is a b****" tweet followed by the Heat's loss to the Cavs. It goes on and on.
- Paul Pierce's "talents to South Beach" tweet, followed months later by the Celtics' elimination by the Heat.
- Jerry Sloan resigning from the Utah Jazz then owner Greg Miller later saying that he was hurt by that. Geez, a man can't even walk out on his basketball job without hurting someone? Shows you that hoops is a zero sum game. Whatever you do, something else balances it.
- Matt Barnes and his tweets after the Lakers beat the Mavs.
- The Oklahoma City Thunder and Chicago Bulls both showing youthful mistakes and being eliminated by more veteran-laden teams.
- Bulls personnel winning MVP and Coach Of The Year awards, only to not make the Finals. How many times has the MVP and Coach Of The Year actually been on a Finals championship team? Not as many times as when they haven't been, I would guess.
- The Lakers tanking the last 5 regular season games in a disrespectful-for-the-game lackadaisical manner and ultimately paying the price at the hands of the Mavs.
- Kobe insisting that the Lakers could come back from a 0-to-X hole. First it was "it's only two games", then it was "they come back from 3-0 all the time in hockey", as well as never giving the Mavs props until he had finally been eliminated.
- The Lakers and OKC insisting on keeping with their starting lineups. Unfortunately, NBA coaches are too fearful of their jobs. In amateur tournaments, where there's the similar competitive urgency such as one-and-done, we coaches have no problem making the necessary adjustment to avoid elimination. Oh, and it's usually for defense. The Lakers should've benched Andrew Bynum and started the more mobile Lamar Odom to defend Dirk. Granted, Phil Jackson wasn't afraid to lose his job, but there's a certain stubborness and locker room dynamic that NBA coaches aren't really able to fully master. OKC should've benched Kendrick Perkins and started Nick Collison on Dirk. Ditto for James Harden over Thabo Sefolosha. The NBA Playoffs is for the near future to step up to the here and now. This is common sense, folks. The basketball gods get particularly upset when common sense is not utilized.
- Before I leave the topic of coaching, I should point out last year's Game 7 loss by the Celtics to the Lakers. In a nutshell, late in the game with the trophy hanging in the balance, the Lakers trapped the Celtics ballhandler as they crossed halfcourt. Did that a few times. Yet after the first time, Doc Rivers made no adjustment. We all know what happened next. (Thou shalt make adjustments!)
- "An inch of doubt grows to a foot." The airball by Eric Maynor. The missed free throw by D.Rose. Younger players are more susceptible to doubting themselves. It's the fear of losing to the mighty Heat that becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's Maynor, in the blink of an eye, not quite sure if he's ready to handle the onslaught of 20,000 people cheering and loving him, if he were to actually sink that clutch shot. Doubt is a very difficult thing to manage.
- The Mavs with their beautiful runs involving the extra pass, not caring who takes the shot (except for Peja Stojakovic at the buzzer in the lone Mavs loss to OKC -- see?), and impressive interior dish-offs. The basketball gods like to reward such teams. After all, that is how basketball was intended by Dr. Naismith.
- And the overall theme in which the younger players have to get beaten up first before they can taste the glory. I've seen it time and time again in my leagues and tournaments. Unless a team is dominant athletically, it sure takes awhile for the newbies to break through the bonds created by the teams that were already there in the first place and had figured out -- albeit maybe not yet achieved -- what was necessary to win a championship.
- Finally, the trade of Perk. Here were my words: "You don't do that in basketball."
- I'm sure I forgot to list many, many more lessons of the basketball gods from this season.
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You see all of that? This is why I never talk smack before, during, or after a game. I don't mess with a good thing. And I absolutely make the adjustment when it is painfully obvious that I need to do so. Believe me, I used to be blind to the karma of basketball. This was before I became cognizant of hoops as a zero-sum game.
I never knowingly instigate anything on the court. And the only reason you would do it is because you're trying to create artificial confidence (you're not mature enough to know how to have it) or you're covering up fear (you haven't lost enough yet to know that losing's not the end of the world). Or you're Michael Jordan and you're that much better than everybody else, like Neo became in Matrix, and have the athleticism as well as the skill to flip everything upside down.
What about Pat Riley after he declared the Three-Peat for Showtime and accomplished that? Wait, you think there wasn't karma there? Let me ask you, did Pat feel any pain and suffering after that? Of course he did. The Knicks and the Heat after that. See what I mean?
Don't do it. Don't mess with basketball karma.
I am so fearful of the gods, that I instruct the teams I coach never to say, "Win!" coming out of a huddle. I mean, think about that. That's kind of a silly thing to say, right? First off, it's pretty obvious that we want to win. Secondly, our desire to win is not necessarily more important than our opposition's desire to win. After all, the basketball gods want us to learn something from the process of winning, not the actual winning.
So here's my point. At 60,000 feet, the Mavs' way of playing basketball "the way it should be played" trumps the Heat's "best AAU team ever assembled". That is the ultimate lesson we are supposed to be taught this season.
Perhaps it will make the Heat an even more invincible team the next time around. Can you imagine if they dumped their dribble-dominant approach for a passing-style offensive system? If that ever happens, we might be talking about one of the greatest teams ever. But they are a long ways from that. The good news is, they have time on their side.
Warriors, are you paying attention?
I promised I would relate some of my observations back to the Warriors. There are two that immediately come to mind: the veteran vs youth approach and the importance of the individual defensive abilities of the 2-guard.
Can the Warriors possibly reach a similar level of perimeter and, more importantly, interior passing as the ultra-experienced Mavs have demonstrated? Does the Warriors' personnel have the basketball IQ to reach that of the Mavs on defense, with its rotations? Quite frankly, neither seem remotely possible right now. This is something for Joe Lacob to start thinking about. You have to witness the benchmark at some point. There's no better benchmark than the most recent NBA Finals.
We must be wary of the Celtics' Big Three approach, which Lacob has routinely referenced. It might be antiquated as we speak. Perhaps the model is to go out and stockpile veterans, and find the glue that binds them.
Wade and DeShawn Stevenson have done very commendable jobs on individual defense. Wade's ability to block shots is bar none at his position. But let's not forget Stevenson. He's played tough, physical, fearless, hustling defense, while not really contributing that much beyond an occasional open spot-up trey on offense.
It should come as no surprise when I, once again, knock the small 1-2 backcourt of the Warriors in Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis. However this time, with the NBA Playoffs as the smoking gun, I hope actions speak louder than words. You've seen it on TV these past two weeks. At least one guard must be at least 6'4" and 215 lbs. There are no ifs, ands, or buts. This is the NBA Playoffs.
No team has ever won Game 7 on the road
I truly think this could be the best-ever NBA Finals. When you think about it, last year's was pretty epic. How can it possibly top last year? I'll tell you how. The road team finally winning a Game 7 on the road. Incidentally, the home team has a 20-6 record since the inception of the 2-3-2 format.
I submit that decades from now, when people talk about the only team to have won a Game 7 on the road, they could be talking about this Mavs team because, well, they are so evenly matched with the Heat. Both teams have made amazing comebacks in the Playoffs. Both teams have at least one guy who can take a hero shot. And I will also say that both teams can get into similar funks -- offensive droughts and defensive lapses that their respective coaches need to take timeouts to help combat.
These teams are like the yin and yang.
Therefore, I'm predicting that the Mavs "steal" Game 1, then each subsequent game is won by the other.
Am I confident with this prediction? Heck no. It's one of those things where now that I've said it, it won't happen. The gods will find something else to teach me about basketball this time.
But then again, it's not the actual predicting of what happens that makes me write this piece. It's the sharing of some or most of what I've learned with basketball as my livelihood, in the context of such an exciting and highly anticipated series.
It's the process of predicting that's actually more important.
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Great stuff PMC
Like you, my heart’s rooting against my head for Dallas. Mostly related to Jason Kidd.
I’d hate to see him have the same fate as Gary Payton. Or maybe east bay point guards are just cursed?
yeah, he picked one up at the ending of his career with Miami
I didn’t think Payton was very productive with the Heat though. Just happened to sign on w/ the right team.
For Dallas, at least Kidd is still a major factor on his team.
Yup, heart for Dallas, but head says Heat.
And that was before Dirk’s finger injury. In the middle of a heartache as I type. So now the next several years will be waiting for someone to triumph over the heat. We have the new Lakers folks!
by Only In Fairfax on Jun 1, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep... I have to go with Dallas..
I am a big believer of team spirit. You can take all the stats, best players, best head coach, etc, etc and sometimes throw it out of the window if you face a team with an incredible team spirit and a will to win.
I think this Dallas team has shown a gritty determination and desire to win ‘as a team’ that has brought them through in tough matches against more fancied opposition.
Besides… I always go with the underdog!!! (I’m a Warriors fan after all…) ;)
I prefer the idea of blood, sweat and tears and an incredible team spirit to win over a team that has simply been ‘bought’ to win a championship.
So the Mavs winning 4-3 is my call!
'In Lacob We Trust'......
by BritWarriorGSW on May 31, 2011 10:20 AM PDT reply actions
I'll be rooting for Dallas, but I don't see it -
- not if Wade is healthy.
Especially with Haslem and Miller back, I just think the talent disparity is too big. Dirk is really really good. LeBron is better. After that, would you rather have Wade and Bosh or Chandler and Kidd?
Miami’s ability to turn it on defensively is the most frightening thing. Lebron appears to be entering that Pippen zone defensively where he can just take another top player out of the game.
Dirk is still a little too vulnerable to the wrong officiating night. He’s better than he was a few years ago, but if the refs let the other team push him around, he becomes less effective. They shouldn’t, but they still sometimes call ’em that way.
I can imagine a scenario where Kidd throws a monkey wrench in Wade’s game, Dirk outplays LeBron offensively, Chandler intimidates Bosh and Haslem’s conditioning isn’t good enough for him to play major minutes every night. The Dallas role-players shine and their defensive rotations stop Miller from going off.
But that seems like a lot of things going right for Dallas, and, well – all those things coming together seem rather unlikely. MIami has the best player, two of the best three players, and three of the best five players in the series.
Predictions are like, well, body parts that everybody has, but this seems like it’s Miami’s to lose.
Karma, yes. For David Stern!
Dallas got jobbed in 2006. Dwyane Wade had the benefit of all the calls and Mark Cuban had developed some ill-will with power-hungry David Stern.
It would be poetic justice for Dirk to win his first against the villains of the NBA in the Miami Heat while also throwing a big F-You to David Stern in the process. I honestly hate Stern, and here’s a phenomenal article about why he sucks.
by Vay on May 31, 2011 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Let's go Dallas. They derserve it.
Wade still has another good 4 years..Lecon has another good 6 years..they will have other chances.
Wade still has another good 4 years..Lecon has another good 6 years..they will have other chances
Yep. I would like to see Dirk and Kid get their ring…this is their last chance, but have to admit that I have never predicted that I would be rooting for Dallas. The Bulls are my official “second” team..Midwest roots here.
by Only In Fairfax on Jun 1, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't see this as Dirk's last chance, but it is Kidd's.
Whether Dirk gets another will depend on how his teams are able to reload.
At least Kobe whines to refs because he actually doesn't get the calls
Wade and Lebron whine to the refs while they are outshooting their opponents by 150 FTA’s
Kobe generally deserves his calls though
He’s pretty crafty. Same goes for likes of Dirk, Paul Peirce, Melo etc. Roping your defender to make a wrong move and taking advantage is smart. But yes it is annoying.
I don’t see what that has to do with Lebron or Wade though. Their calls are generally legitimate fouls too. It’s almost impossible to contest them at the rim without fouling them.
I get why people don’t like it, and i’ll include myself in that group a lot of the time, but until rules change, not much you can do.
If Monta wants to get more calls he either needs to become exceptionally crafty roping defenders in and then shooting with his arms underneath them, or just get a lot stronger like Rose/Westbrook (who are admittedly longer, but still, they take on serious contact in the lane)
sidenote:
If you substitute Westbrook’s FT/FTAs + FT% in place of monta’s, monta would average 26.3 ppg.
But beyond that, if you reworked his TS% with 6.5 out of 7.7 made per game (instead of monta’s 4.3 out of 5.4) his TS% would be .560
That small difference (a few more attempts, and making them) would take him from average efficiency to a pretty good one. And that wouldn’t even be accurate because likelihood is, if he drew more fouls he’d attempt less FGs and have a slightly highly FG%.
Just shows how much more effective a scorer he could be if he could learn to do it.
No
Not against elite teams.. Against crap like warriors yeah. but not against golden voys like thunder or heat.. Even celticsand hornets were allowed to handcheck him the last 2 playoffs.
by SDtotheBay on May 31, 2011 12:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
10, 3, 8, 11, 9, 7, 15
and
8, 8, 7, 9, 4, 10.
Those are the number of FT attempst per game Kobe took in those two series.
For a player who’s taking an increasing number of jump shots, those numbers give the lie to the claim that he’s “not getting calls.”
yeah but how much do you watch him?
There is no one (minus maybe dirk) in the league who can draw a defender in on his jump shot than shoot under their arms FORCING a foul. I recall january game v. Lakers specifically, he killed Monta in 4th this way
He's right:
FTA’s a game in the regular season:
Wade (#3) with 8.7
LeBron (Tied at #5) with 8.4
Kobe (#11) with 7.1
Bosh (#16/17) with 6.1
Dirk (#16/17) with 6.1
Pau is pretty far down and there are no other Mavs in the top 50.
"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum
FTA's in current playoffs:
Dirk (#4) with 9.3
LeBron (#5) with 9.1
Wade (#6) with 8.7
Bosh (#14) with 6.3
Kobe (#15) with 6.1
"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum
I got the Mavs. Deeper bench, Dirk and any team that sweeps the defending champions epically the Lakers gets my vote. Plus I dont like lebron, I dont what that guy to win
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I'm rooting for the Mavs but I think it'll be tough for them to pull off.
Bosh has been playing well & they’re really looking like the Big 3. I loved watching Dirk but Lebron has also been so good these playoffs.
Can’t see anybody that’s not a hardcore Heat fan rooting against the Mavs here. Considering the potential lockout, I really think this is Kidd’s last season since he’s already 38. He’s been a great player and he carried those Nets teams into the finals only to have their weakness exposed in the finals by dominant big men (Shaq & Duncan).
Dirk’s been taking a lot of abuse also … the early exits, the “soft” rep. I like their coach & there’s just so many players on this Mavs team have been close and failed to get that ring.
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throw in that the opponent is the hated Heat.
It’s weird because Dirk is a superstar who I feel doesn’t get the “props” or fame as other superstars. Don’t see him with any big endorsement deals & he doesn’t have the above-the-rim game to dominate ESPN highlights.
Yet he’ll probably be the favorite basketball player for most NBA fans over the next week or two. More fan support this series than he’s ever had.
I can't stand LeBron
Always loved Dwayne but his quote “The world is a better place, now that the Heat are losing” irritated me as well. Bosh developed a man skirt in Miami.
Dirk is a guy that is easily likable, ditto for East-bay product Kidd. I don’t like Terry at all though lol.
"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum
by ejdacanay on May 31, 2011 4:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Bosh developed a man skirt in Miami.
Plus
What really nailed my Bosh disrespect was when he let them do a “entourage” cameo as himself offering $2000 for a vodka drink at a LA party to impress nearby LA girls….“typical dumb pro athlete blowing his money that will be gone by age 40” stereotype. Bosh seems to be not smart enough to protect his image.
by Only In Fairfax on Jun 1, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Does your Laker fandom have to do with that?
Serious question.
"If you meet the Buddha in the lane, feed him the ball." - Phil Jackson
by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 1, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Mavs
When you sweep the Lakers, you deserve to win the title
Wanna feel real torture? Try being a Warrior fan.
Does anybody know where I can stream the game online?
Not next to a TV…
Try
www.myp2p.eu and go to Live Sports.
I always preferred radio to stream if I’m not near a TV though.
"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum
Ekpe or Joel A?
If only Ekpe was a average rebounder…
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Ekpe.
He will be a more average rebounder. Hard work always pays off.
LGW
I hate the Heat but i do like Joel A. and Haslem.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on May 31, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this considered an Open Thread for the NBA Finals?
I could care less about either team.
Go Warriors still! 2012 NBA Champs!
(Waddup J-Kidd!)
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on May 31, 2011 6:56 PM PDT reply actions
hahaha. waddup ejdac!
What are your thoughts on Jerry Dubz? Are you convinced there is no question he breaks up the backcourt?
Mark Jackson as HC? Brian Shaw? who do you want bro? LGW
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on May 31, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Love the West signing
I do believe either Steph or Monta will get traded, I’d prefer it to be Monta, but know we’ll get more with a Steph trade.
My top choice is Shaw and Frank. Jackson is meh, he could be really bad or he can surprise a lot of people, not sure. Casey would be fine too. I’m just tired of our all offense, no defense philosophy.
"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum
Word. Love the West Signing.
I have a gut feeling Monta or Steph will be gone. But eh…actually its a “most likely no brainer” right?
The thing is…If Jerry West was really the “brains” of the NBA and the eye of talent, loves a challenge…then that should equate to Him having the brains and eye of talent to bring in the potential star bigs to compliment the challenge of proving EVERYONE wrong about the “no size backcourt” of Curry and Ellis.
Hell ya i just called Jerry West out. You really got skillz fool? prove it by working around this backcourt that you say can’t be successful. sucka. GO WARRIORS MONTA CURRY STILL. so what.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on May 31, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Jackson is meh, he could be really bad or he can surprise a lot of people, not sure.
I absolutely agree. you know me tho. I believe once you rock a Warriors Jersey or once you join our organization.
Rick Barry as a coach would be a hit or miss. I think Mark Jackson is a hit or miss. I’m willing to take that chance and hope for the ultimate best.
Any coach regardless of history is a hit or miss. The key thing is…yes you do have to be a very good coach or great. the question is….“what can you do with the roster you are given?”
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on May 31, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Let’s go not Heat!
UP THE PUCKS!
"This is a good time to come together and raise our middle finger in the air." - Dan Boyle
by TheSoundOfHockey on May 31, 2011 7:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I just saw that Blake Griffin rage commercial for the first time..
Blake has a future in acting!
Clippers own staples center!!!
I think the Mavs will be lucky if they win one game in this series
Heat in 5 games
Clippers own staples center!!!
Don't know about that
I think at least 6 games
Marion. is garbage.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on May 31, 2011 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Little Barea
UP THE PUCKS!
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by TheSoundOfHockey on May 31, 2011 7:45 PM PDT reply actions
LETS - GO - WAR- RIORS!
(CLAP)
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on May 31, 2011 7:47 PM PDT reply actions
Are they in the crowd?
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
LOL. naw. but i guess we are on GSoM.
What Warrior fan does that during a Warriors offseason & possible lockout?!!
WHOOO HASSS TIME! ?!!!?
WORD UP TO GARY RADNICH. BRING BACK DAN DIBLEY TO KNBR! I DONT CARE IF LEE HAMMER SAYS NO!
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on May 31, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
No. He's ours now.
(Goes to step-child’s room and giggles)
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
I picked the Heat in 7. But I think it may go 6.
Although I want Dallas to win because of Kidd and Dirk. My head is telling me it’s going to be the Heat as they’re playing great and the right time, young, athletic and have 2/3 of the best players on the court.
At the same time it’s not hard for me to see Dallas stay hot from 3 and see Dirk to continue to kill it. I think it’ll be a tightly fought contest either way. I don’t expect a blowout series.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Haywood can't finish anything inside.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
The Mavs need to put Corey Brewer in the game IDK why he's not getting minutes
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ya good point. where is BREWER? WTEFF?
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on May 31, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
LGW still.
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by ROMESdavidWOOD37 on May 31, 2011 8:03 PM PDT reply actions
cmon refs help the mavs out
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I can't wait till Marc Jackson is our coach
It should be mandatory we have ESPN otro during every post game press conference.
yeah we would be second in FTA/game
after the team with lebron with it
wont happen. NBA loves lebron too much
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Does anyone know what's up with the marks around lebron's eyes
I’ve noticed it all playoffs. A bruise? Skin disease? Wasn’t their before playofs…
Either this is sarcasm or you are a high paid lawyer who is subjected to footage of Marion in a mistresses dungeon somewhere. I wish there were a counterpart to “Rec” that indicated bad taste or lack of insight…
Amnesty for all immigrants! Boycott Arizona! RIP GURU
by The Bimbo Coles Experience on Jun 2, 2011 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions
they mavs need to spread the floor
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lmao this is crap
And people are sitting here and telling me with a straight face that Wade and Lebron don’t get calls.
by SDtotheBay on May 31, 2011 8:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Jason Terry should get the blame for this game
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I want the Leron Jane guy
How much ?
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
How do you mispell his name that bad??
Clippers own staples center!!!
by ClipperBEAST on May 31, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Drunk?
UP THE PUCKS!
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by TheSoundOfHockey on May 31, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
That was pretty easy.
It was the 10 Jim Beam shots that was hard.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
interwebz humor
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Damn this
F@!$ the Heat
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by ejdacanay on May 31, 2011 9:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The Heat defense did a great job tonight, but I think Dirk is going to have to be more aggressive and shoot better than 7 for 18.
I think the Heat will win in 6 or 7, but I’ll be rooting for J-Kidd to get his first ring; he really deserves it. Dirk should do what he wants in this series, but I don’t think it will be enough for the Mavs to win. The Heat seemed destined to win. If Dirk does win, he will move up the all-time great list, but still not top ten.
http://theresastatforthat.blogspot.com/2011/05/dirk-with-ring-better-than-ringless.html
In the first half, I didn't feel like Miami was playing great defense so much as just that Dallas was missing shots.
I liked Dallas' D early on
Stephensen/Marion swapping on Wade/Lebron was actually pretty ingenius. Both had a ‘harder’ time attacking. Stephensen’s hands and quickness with him, forced Lebron to sit back a bit, and Wade struggled with bigger defender.
Looking even worst for the Mavs ... Dirk is injured.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=dw-wetzel_dirk_nowitzki_mavericks_lose_nba_finals_game1_060111
Felt the only way Mavs could win, Dirk had to be near perfect.

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