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Ekpe Udoh- Respect the Nightmare

EKPE UDOH- (PF/C)- 6'10 & 240LBS


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Height w/o ShoesHeight w/shoesWeightWingspanStanding ReachBody FatNo Step VertMax VertBench PressLane Agility3/4 Court SprintClass Rank
6' 8.75" 6' 9.75" 237 7' 4.5" 8' 10.5" 8.0 31.0 33.5 10 11.15 3.29 NA

 

Ok. So I have been reading some of the post here on GSOM a lot lately and there are so many bashers on here about Ekpe Udoh's game, his upside, and the list goes on and on and on. But the thing that people don't realize is he's just a rookie. The first thing people will say is well he was a 23 year old rookie BUT SO WAS Wesley Johnson yet people wanted us to go after him. And people may argue if we wanted a big man we should've went with Greg Monroe but after watching a few of his games last year I feel he will be nothing more than a poor man's Brad Miller as BM is a better shooter, passer/playmaker than Young Monroe. I really don't see any potential in Greg Monroe as a defender as he looks clumsy and uncoordinated whenever he tries to keep up with the opponent which is the exact opposite of Ekpe Udoh a.k.a. Our Nigerian Nightmare.

I'm not going to sit here and lie saying I was always in love with the Udoh pick as I wanted us to take Paul George, Al-Farouq Aminu, or Xavier Henry (heck, even Greg Monroe for a little while) but after seeing his love for the game and powerful work ethic (along with his end-to-end highlight against HOU) I feel he can be one of the five best players in his class if developed properly (he's on that list potentially with John Wall, Paul George, Demarcus Cousins, Derrick Favors ,Gordon Hayward, Wesley Johnson, & possibly Landry Fields). 

I know the first thing that might to some of your minds is that all those players happen to be younger than Udoh but no matter how old you are you can always look to improve which Udoh already knows as a student of the game. In all honesty, for a player that NEVER PLAYED IN A SUMMER LEAGUE GAME, NEVER HAD A TRAINING CAMP, AND NEVER EVEN HAD A PRESEASON GAME he really played like he belonged in this league and beyond most of our expectations. Only time will tell with Ekpe so patience is a virtue especially with a big man (It took Joakim Noah a few years to get going so we might have the same process with Udoh).

And for those saying he's the next Adonal Foyle...that's just wrong with no disrespect to Mr. Foyle whatsoever.

Poll
At the end of his career, Ekpe Udoh will be....
An All-Time Leader in Blocks
78 votes
Hall Of Fame Worthy
16 votes
On Several All-Star Teams
62 votes
A Bust
48 votes
A NBA Champion
96 votes
I don't care as long as he's better than Monroe
227 votes
Other
96 votes

623 votes | Poll has closed

This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!

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Rec'd iHype, I feel that our man Udoh will continue to improve and impress.

For myself Udoh is the anti AR/BW mistakes.

I cannot argue that he will be better than several players passed up by the W’s but we needed his defense and character at the C/PF position. Basically he is our man now and deserves our support based on his play so far in my humble opinion even thought I too was disappointed on draft night…homer as that may be.

It also seems to me than anyone who is pining for Bismack on this years draft day has to appreciate the logic of last years pick as well!

by Only In Fairfax on Jun 19, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Count me in that group ... big reason I want Bismack is because of how much I appreciate Udoh.

My hope is that the Warriors will always have either Udoh or Bismack on the floor. That way they’ll be somebody to protect the rim.

If Ellis/Curry are lighting it up offensively, then maybe Warriors can even have both of them on the court @ the same time for big minutes.

by srsrs on Jun 19, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, it seems so obvious

I’m hoping all the Klay talk has been a smoke monster

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"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)

by Evanz on Jun 19, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh. Was just reminded of how terribly disappointing the end of Lost was.

Formerly ffgolden.

by ivanbe on Jun 19, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it resolved the conflict well on an emotional level. If you cared about the characters, then it was a meaningful end.

Of course, intellectually, it wasn’t the sci-fi mystery a lot of people hoped for. I was a bit disappointed by it as well on that level. That said, I thought it was good and represented great writing.

I'm the soul brotha' like no other!

by Naticus on Jun 19, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many realistic minutes can we play them? Bismack is an investment down the road.

We can’t play two guys who have questionable offensive game and one with no offensive game. I’m not dogging it before we see it, but I’m not going to proclaim a wall of invincibility between the two.

First of all Bismack will have to make that rookie jump and get used to the fast paced nature of the NBA. Another thing to consider is that the rules in international league play is very different than the NBA. Will his athleticism still stand out when he’s surrounded by similar athletic freaks? Does he have the defensive fundamentals down even though he hasn’t been playing organized basketball for a long time? These are some serious questions that I don’t know any of us have an answer to. I hope the Warriors have these questions answered first and foremost before deciding on Bismack.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 19, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most posts/articles on Udoh next season project him about 25 minutes/game.

That leaves a lot of gametime where there’s no defender on the court to protect the rim. This leaves a lot of minutes for Bismack to be on the floor & still not overlap Ekpe’s playing time and forcing Warriors to have two big men with limited offensive abilities on court @ same time.

Riley felt that Udoh was capable of being a consistent jumpshooter & if this happens then Bismack/Ekpe combo on the floor looks even better.

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Following up on whether Bismack has the defensive fundamentals & athleticism to stand out in the NBA … I’ve got no idea. Never watched him play internationally & hoping the Warriors have done their reseach.

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Another reason, I’m hoping that he’s considered is that the Center position is just so hard to fill in right now and Warriors would be so lucky if they can fill this hole on a rookie contract. All the names people throw around like Nene, Jordan, etc … are just too expensive for the Warriors to sign.

Also, if Bismack looks decent then he can be a valuable trade piece. Young Center prospect has to have some kind of trade value.

by srsrs on Jun 20, 2011 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer

by SmittytheCutman on Jun 19, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like him too

where is this hate coming from?

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
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by doubleteapot on Jun 18, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Think he’s talking about people saying we should’ve took Monroe over Udoh

by GSWRUNDMC on Jun 18, 2011 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jury’s still out on that one. Monroe looked pretty good in Detroit.

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
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by doubleteapot on Jun 19, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Udoh alot

But should’ve had a poll option for serviceable starter. I think he can be a defensive stalwart, especially if paired with another good big. Obviously he can be better than that, but he can also be worse. If he’s at least starter worthy or a 20+ minute defensive specialist, I’ll be happy.

"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum

by ejdacanay on Jun 19, 2011 12:12 AM PDT reply actions  

He needs to improve his rebounding to get more than 20 minutes.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 19, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

About his rebounding, I don’t know where to get the numbers or stats for it, but I’m pretty sure he’s okay on that end because he usually tips the rebound to someone else rather than try to grab it for himself. Because of that, rebounding numbers for our team when he was on/off was about the same. I remember watching a lot of plays where Udoh just tipped the rebound to other players also. He’s very good at it, but I do wonder where I can find stats to support my claim (which was discussed at one point during the season).

by Prince.Charming on Jun 19, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basketball-reference.com or Hoopdata.com can show some good in depth stats.

But his total rebounding rate is an appalling 10.0%.

I’d say decent starts at at least 15%.

If he just gets the tip, well then he’s such a tease.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 19, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

The worst tease ever lol. But that’s why Udoh-Lee make the best front court option for us. Udoh defends and helps our best rebounder get the rebound. Win-win. But grr, couldn’t find the stats for it still. Evanz probably has some stat for it somewhere in his brain/website lol.

by Prince.Charming on Jun 19, 2011 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

D12 + Udoh

Would be a dream front court for me. They would be Twin Towers worthy, at least on the defensive end.

"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum

by ejdacanay on Jun 20, 2011 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s true that when Udoh was on the floor, the team didn’t rebound any worse than when he was off. In fact, the defensive rebounding was 0.9% better when he was on, and the offensive rebounding was the same.

The problem is that whether he was on or off, the Warriors were a really bad defensive rebounding team. We ranked dead last in the league. I happen to think one of the big reasons for that is Monta Ellis. He’s a really poor rebounder. A bigger SG who could rebound more would help alleviate the problem. Of course, so would getting someone like Dwight Howard or Biyombo.

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"It’s not all about stats…you’ve probably never played basketball in your life. There are things called intangibles. He is what you call a winner. Led his team to a national title. We need people who know how to win. He obviously has to be doing something right." (dhod)

"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)

by Evanz on Jun 20, 2011 4:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

One of the most interesting things I thought happened this season

Was bosh’s decline in rebounding and being well below par for an NBA big, while Miami still remaining top 10 in rebounds at 4th in defensive rebounding percentage. Add to it the fact they start Joel Anthony who doesn’t rebound well.

Were Lebron and Wade just great rebounders to make up for this, or did they in a sense ‘steal bosh’s rebounds’.

My guess is it’s probably a combination.

One thing I notice with Udoh is he doesn’t have great hands for rebounding, the way Biedrins does/did. But he does tip out a lot of balls. The type of thing where more adept rebounding wings (like Iguodala) might thrive.

by tafkasam on Jun 20, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Were Lebron and Wade just great rebounders to make up for this, or did they in a sense ‘steal bosh’s rebounds’.

This is classic diminishing returns, yes. Wade is one of the best rebounding SG in the league. This is one of the weaknesses that people don’t talk too much about Monta, but getting a guy like Burks would really help in that area. Burks would probably grab about 2 more boards per game, which doesn’t sound like much, but it’s significant.

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"Also, Evanz’ posts are easiest to hide while working. The chats and graphs can look like actual work related data to the lazy walker-by’s eye" (tafkasam)

"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)

by Evanz on Jun 20, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting stuff

You simply don’t expect a team whose two starting bigs rebound at a rate of 8.3 and 6.5 rebounds per 36 to be a top 10 rebounding team (and top 5 defensive rebounding team).

And yet Biedrins at 11 per 36 and Lee at 9.8 per 36 had no real impact.

A reason I something question people who overrate bigs due to rebounding rate without consideration of other factors. This is how someone like Horford can have a higher rebounding % and significantly higher defensive rebounding % while actually rebounding at a lower rate than Lee per 36

by tafkasam on Jun 20, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

And yet Biedrins at 11 per 36 and Lee at 9.8 per 36 had no real impact.

That’s a bit of a simplification. Biedrins did have a positive impact on the boards, improving the team’s rebounding when he played. However, he didn’t play all that many minutes, largely because every other aspect of his game fell apart.

by jae on Jun 22, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Udoh's game

You have to like udoh’s game and what he brings to the warriors. I don’t think we could have picked anyone better and he has the potential to improve his game. He already has nba ready defence he just needs to inrove his offence

by Monta8mixes on Jun 19, 2011 12:19 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Ed Davis perhaps.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 19, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

we have another shot at Ed Davis

his name is Tristan Thompson

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"Also, Evanz’ posts are easiest to hide while working. The chats and graphs can look like actual work related data to the lazy walker-by’s eye" (tafkasam)

"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)

by Evanz on Jun 20, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

So we have a 3rd chance at Brandon Wright!

go rowand

by lincypoo i wuv u on Jun 22, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like what I saw of Udoh, he's got potential.

It all really depends on him..what kind of attitude does he have? His work ethic. I can see him having a long career..sort of like a John Salley..barring injuries. But he could also be a guy that is out of the league in 3 to 4 years. It really depends on him.

by tenkaistar on Jun 19, 2011 12:50 AM PDT reply actions  

i think he has all the drive to always improve.. he showed that hunger during his wrist injury it will show.. just watch..

he always put himself in the huddle and shadowed our practices as best he could with his wrist injury.. also, the thing i really like alot is that udoh has a great personality and presence he is not a softy and gets pumped up on the court and fired up but he is not a head case or a negative presence in the locker room and i seriously doubt we will see many scandals of him with guns in the locker or gambling or getting a bunch of useless technicals…
i expect his offense to really show improvement…
his defense is what seperates him from monroe obviously and i think is more important that monroes offense

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jun 19, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's nice that he's a nice guy. But it's just that unless he gets more efficient finishing inside, rebounds better for starts.

I like him too, but he’s limited thus far and needs to improve. He’s got variety to his o-game, it just hasn’t materialized into results yet.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 19, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

true... i think we will see an improved guy tho.. for one, he now has legit experience under his belt and two,

we are going to see what he looks like after a full summer (and fall and winter?) of practice and gelling with the team and planning plays.. i REALLY hope we work the pick and roll better this year…

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jun 20, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

+ a zillion!
i REALLY hope we work the pick and roll better this year…

man, if Jackson can’t figure it out, I say we drag Nellie pack for a camp session!
Give him a few million bucks, lifetime of cigars…whatever it takes

I was shocked and amazed…at the complete lack of a P&R game last year

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jun 20, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

we are going to see what he looks like after a full summer

I think the summer league has been cancelled with the lockout.

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by KillaContract on Jun 20, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

anybody know where Udoh calls "home" during the off-season?

Because I know Monta and Steph both live in the south

…damn, I am dreading this lockout

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jun 23, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been on here alot...

And lately I’ve been reading alot about people calling him Adonal Foyle 2.0. or even saying if we wanted a project we could’ve gone with Aminu

by iHypeTV on Jun 19, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they were more referring to his hands. He's fumbled some passes, but it's not to Foyle extremes.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 19, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

he is

which means he’ll be a serviceable nba big man who plays good defense but has a limited offensive game. that’s his ceiling

by AJC3317 on Jun 19, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

his ceiling is

adonal foyle 2.0? Pass whatever youre smoking

by tom88gsw on Jun 19, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’ll just continue living in reality, thanx. u all can keep fantasizing all u want

by AJC3317 on Jun 19, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

? Udoh has support from a lot of posters on this site

Umm, I’m new to this kind of terminology, but isn’t this a strawman…

It's a mystery to me (Why the Warriors are so bad on D).--That’s why there’s a big O and a little d in Oakland. -Evanz

by RIAS on Jun 19, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, a lot of us really liked him near the end of the season because of all the evidence showing how well he does on defense. I mean, there were people wondering if it was SSS, but I think a fairly big amount of us liked him.

by Prince.Charming on Jun 19, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Got it. Wasn’t clear as to whether this was actually true.

It's a mystery to me (Why the Warriors are so bad on D).--That’s why there’s a big O and a little d in Oakland. -Evanz

by RIAS on Jun 19, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry about the confusion.

I was being sincere. The mood on GSOM really has warmed up to Udoh as the season was ending. Beans collapse & the realization of just how incredibly bad Lee’s D has also contributed to people liking Udoh imho.

For myself:
I’m seeing Beans + Lee on the Warriors for a few more seasons because of how untradeable their contracts have made them. It’s good to have Udoh & have at least one big man that can play D & also doesn’t have emotional/mental issues.

by srsrs on Jun 20, 2011 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno

looks like he does ok!

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jun 23, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think we should have drafted a more well rounded player at 6.

You don’t see players like Ekpe drafted at 6. A comparable player is Joel Anthony, and he went undrafted. It goes to show we didn’t make a good value pick. However, Ekpe’s been pretty good. Most #6’s in the past few drafts have been complete scrubs, so the fact Udoh can be a rotation player is good. I would have really liked to have drafted Paul George, but oh well.
I like Ekpe.

KOBE BRYANT IS DA GREA-TEST PLAYER IN DA HIS-TORY OF DA NBA- Warriors Head Coach Mark Jackson

by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 19, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions  

and to expect Bismack to be even better at defense than udoh ... i dunno sounds like a tall order

as far as udoh not being well rounded, i can definately see the rebound discrepancy but i think he has a nice shooting stroke and can develope a decent midrange game… i hope other parts of his game come around.. but his mere defensive presence drops other teams scoring by 7 pts per game? that is verrrry refreshing around warriors world.. and we still need more defense

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jun 19, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

He’s better than Joel Anthony. I wouldn’t want to put him in the same sentence with Anthony. Sure Anthony is a good defensive player..but when he’s on the court it’s 4 on 5. I don’t get that feeling with Udoh.

by tenkaistar on Jun 19, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

There seems to be a theory that Udoh is a backup PF if BB is drafted?

However Udoh seems to need to be in the C spot so if we draft BB we may have a funny rotation problem unless of course Udoh developes his offense/gives up the block shot deal for rebounding position and BB takes over the shot blocking?

In that senerio the big question is…can BB hold his own against NBA big men in the C position. If he really is 19/20 then we can just consider him a project(to develope overall game) but a usefull disruptive asassin at first?

by Only In Fairfax on Jun 19, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

ya i do picture udoh taking the 4 spot behind lee with BB at the 5 behind udoh....

and beans behind them both hopefully in a mismatch situation favoring beans (to raise his stats and stock value)

but those moments of having udoh and BB in the paint on defense sounds dreamy

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jun 19, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cannot disagree with you there GSCurry

Most probably Paul George, Ed Davis, Monroe and even Aminu down the road will be considered more valuable players overall than Udoh. However he probably is the best team fit “as constructed” as a solid defensive big especially considering Dorell W’s addition to the team and Lee’s defense/Beans self destruction.

The elephant in the rm with him is his lack of rebounding which must improve or else he will just be a role player. Which would be a shame. IF Udoh can develope a 10-12pt offense+ min 8 rebounds+ maintain his defensive threat….then he will always be a solid starter with value.

by Only In Fairfax on Jun 19, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

you see guys like Andrea Bargnani drafted 2

so Udoh at 6 looks pretty good

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The City: A Golden State Warriors-Centric NBA Blog

"It’s not all about stats…you’ve probably never played basketball in your life. There are things called intangibles. He is what you call a winner. Led his team to a national title. We need people who know how to win. He obviously has to be doing something right." (dhod)

"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)

by Evanz on Jun 19, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Udoh looks like a basketball god at 6, considering Bargnani was drafted 2nd.

I'm the soul brotha' like no other!

by Naticus on Jun 19, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh my.

KOBE BRYANT IS DA GREA-TEST PLAYER IN DA HIS-TORY OF DA NBA- Warriors Head Coach Mark Jackson

by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 19, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep...

It was him, LA, Adam Morrison, Tyrus Thomas, & then Sheldon Williams…eww LOL!

by iHypeTV on Jun 19, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The draft sucks. Trade picks for proven NBA players.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Jun 23, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot. That’s true. I guess people are in denial about that.

I'm the soul brotha' like no other!

by Naticus on Jun 19, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

if nothing else...

Udoh shows the fans and the FO what an actually good defender can bring a team. That’s why I’m hoping they’ll be more likely to draft Biyombo, not less. But we’ll see.

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The City: A Golden State Warriors-Centric NBA Blog

"It’s not all about stats…you’ve probably never played basketball in your life. There are things called intangibles. He is what you call a winner. Led his team to a national title. We need people who know how to win. He obviously has to be doing something right." (dhod)

"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)

by Evanz on Jun 19, 2011 12:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Larry Riley won't go for Biyombo but the rest of the FO might.

KOBE BRYANT IS DA GREA-TEST PLAYER IN DA HIS-TORY OF DA NBA- Warriors Head Coach Mark Jackson

by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 19, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey, then it's good Riley's in charge

:(

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The City: A Golden State Warriors-Centric NBA Blog

"It’s not all about stats…you’ve probably never played basketball in your life. There are things called intangibles. He is what you call a winner. Led his team to a national title. We need people who know how to win. He obviously has to be doing something right." (dhod)

"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)

by Evanz on Jun 19, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm scared now...=(

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 19, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why is Fields only a possibility?

I love watching Udoh play though. I honestly think I forgot what defense looked like before he came around.

by belilaugh on Jun 19, 2011 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

udohs a nice guy too… we met him and reggie williams near union square a couple months ago. they both stopped to take photos with fans even though we were all probably getting in the way of their shopping…

by BeePill on Jun 19, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of Reggie....

Anyone have any idea what is happening with him…..one of my biggest issues regarding Smart was too many min for Monta and too few for Reggie?

Hope the W’s do not just let him fade away. I dont get it really!

by Only In Fairfax on Jun 21, 2011 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless he gets a huge offer, he's staying.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 21, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

My guess is that it will be determined by who the Warriors draft.

If the Warriors draft a guard who can rotate with Curry & Monta then they might just lowball Reggie & cause him to leave.

by srsrs on Jun 21, 2011 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt that happens.

But it’s a possibility.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 21, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would believe in udoh...

if he showed anything at all that would lead me to believe he would be “a nightmare”, his offensive game is terrible, but the thing that really scares me is he cant rebound which is something that cant be taught…turiaf at best

by sf_cutty on Jun 22, 2011 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Monroe and Biyombo would be the REAL combo

offensive player/somebody who can actually rebound in monroe and biyombo as a great defender and rebounder off the bench compared to two good defenders with no offensive game and udoh is such a wimp i dont see him ever being confident enough to take over offensively in a game/ the dubs could have got an undrafted or 2nd round player who would be as good as him or slightly worse than him

by sf_cutty on Jun 22, 2011 10:49 PM PDT reply actions  

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