2011 NBA Draft Results: What Klay Thompson Offers The Golden State Warriors

by Nate Parham on Jun 23, 2011 8:25 PM PDT in NBA Draft

The buzz in the Pacific Northwest about Washington State guard Klay Thompson early in the 2010-11 NCAA basketball season was not about him merely being a really good spot-up shooter.

As he continued to get better reading defenses and working off screens, he became even more effective scoring without the ball, which DraftExpress Director of Scouting Joseph Treutlein suggested in a pre-draft evaluation will make his transition to the NBA even easier.

DraftExpress: Finding a Niche For: Klay Thompson
With many volume shooters entering the NBA, there is a large change in role in terms of how often the ball is in their hands or what types of shots they're getting, but if he lands in a good situation, Thompson's only adjustment will be the number of shots he takes, not the type. Any up-tempo team would be a good fit, though he could excel just as easily in a half court-oriented team with a lot of screening and ball movement.

Yet even more impressive was everything else that he was doing beyond scoring.

Growing increasingly comfortable with putting the ball on the floor since his freshman year, the 6'7" junior was not only a knockdown shooter, but a more confident ball handler making him one of the Pac-10's most dynamic offensive threats. And as Craig Powers of SBN's Washington State site CougCenter notes, the threat he posed with his newfound ball handling confidence was not only as a scorer but as a distributor.

2011 NBA DRAFT RESULTS: Klay Thompson Selected By The Golden State Warriors - CougCenter
During his junior campaign, Klay was relied upon to be not only the primary scorer, but the primary distributor as well. After posting a 15.4 assist rate to go along with a 19.1 turnover rate his sophomore season, Thompson improved upon both numbers with a 24.8 assist rate and 17.6 turnover rate. All the while taking more shots.

So what the Warriors are getting in Thompson is not a one-dimensional college shooter, but a player whose game has steadily expanded and has room for growth as he gets stronger and even more confident. And when figuring out how he fits with the Warriors, the hard work that went into his steady improvement is as important as anything else we say about his game.

When considering the Golden State Warriors' insistence on keeping the current backcourt of Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis intact, the fact that Thompson is probably a more well-rounded player than people give him credit for becomes even more important. He's a player that will be able to mesh well with the team in the half court and transition games and has shown the ability to read defenses and teammates in a way that allows him to seamlessly alternate between scorer and distributor.

And of course, with that three point shooting ability and ability to play off the ball, he potentially makes the Warriors an even tougher team to defend by putting one more player on the court who defenses will have to think twice about before helping off of.

We'll have plenty of time - possibly too long with the prospect of a lockout - to discuss the obvious concerns about Thompson's defense. And for a defensively challenged team, there were certainly better options out there for the taking that could have filled that void. I definitely wanted those options.

I'm not even trying to convince you to like this pick - I can't say for sure that this pick translates to more wins. But as someone who has lived in Seattle and watched him torch the Washington Huskies a few times this season, we should at least understand who exactly this player is and what he actually offers before ripping him to shreds. We can all acknowledge this: Klay Thompson is a talented player and probably one of the best available in a draft lacking star power, regardless of who we might have hoped for instead.

So now we can sit and hope for exactly what we hope for just about off-season: more size, more defense, some semblance of a balanced basketball team through some combination of creative trades and free agency.

And at some point, we're going to have to take all that excitement we had about Jerry West coming on and Trust The Logo.

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Nice article.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 23, 2011 8:32 PM PDT reply actions

Evanz and Nate have been great additions to the front page.

KOBE BRYANT IS DA GREA-TEST PLAYER IN DA HIS-TORY OF DA NBA- Warriors Head Coach Mark Jackson

by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 23, 2011 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs

no doubt

I have much more Trust In GSoM

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jun 23, 2011 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions

im definately going to rally around klay...

i score us a B+ for the draft maybe A-

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jun 23, 2011 8:35 PM PDT reply actions

My thoughts exactly - nice work

If we are keeping Monta – he is a better pick than Burk who would just be a lesser version of monta but not as fast.
If we are trading Monta at some point, I feel more confident about Klay in the long run than Reggie Williams or Burk.
It amazes me that people on this site think they know basketball better than the Logo.
I think Kahli slipping so far means GMs have some knowledge we likely don’t have.
In the Logo I trust.

by Togna Balogna on Jun 23, 2011 8:39 PM PDT reply actions

the "logo" picked drew gooden ahead of amare and nene

so he is all knowing…right?

by sf_cutty on Jun 23, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions

and boozer but he was a steal

by sf_cutty on Jun 23, 2011 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions

What baffles me is how you overrate the logo's drafting ability

If you look at his draft record, it’s average at its very best! We just drafted the next Casey Jacobson. If Monta is traded, I will be pissed because we just received a 1 dimensional offensive player (only can shoot) and the worst defensive guard in the draft and are gonna plug him into start. However, im okay with the pick if he is in a 3 guard rotation with Monta and Curry. And at the deadline we see where we are, if we are in the 6 range, keep it together. If we are far out blow it up. But you dont draft a player whose 1 dimensional in his 1 dimensional offensive game and plug him into start. Still disappointed however…we preach defense then draft the worst defensive guard in the draft.

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 23, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions

If you look at his draft record, it’s average at its very best!

No, his draft record was covered in another post and though he made picks that didnt pan out, his draft record was considered to be above average.

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions

the fact that he drafted thompson over burks proves he isnt a god

plus i looked at that guys post all but 2(eddie jones and kobe) of his picks that were in the lottery sucked. Pus thompson is extremely one dimensional its sad

by sf_cutty on Jun 24, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions

Exactly! Klay thompson has 1 dimension to his 1 dimensional game

He can shoot, decent passer, no fire, no defense, no athleticism, no leadership, nothing else to offer except shooting. Now i understad the value of shooters but there are shooters in every draft, but often do defenders come out that can guard positions 1-4 and can shoot the 3? not very often..we shouldve taken singleton…we preach defense, then we take offense, not impressed at all by this pick. I love our 2nd rounders but the 1st pick…ehh iffy, if its a depth pick ig im okay with it

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions

the fact that he drafted thompson over burks proves he isnt a god

Is that what it took for you to stop believing Jerry West was a god? Weird. The whole thing is weird – from you thinking West is a god, to you changing religious beliefs based on two kids named Thompson and Burks.
Either way, I disagree with your assumption that every single Jerry West draft pick except 2 sucked.
But that’s what makes America great, we are free to have different opinions – even about religion.

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions

unless monta is traded

this pick just doesn’t make sense

by AJC3317 on Jun 23, 2011 8:40 PM PDT reply actions

Hopefully Monta is traded...

but Riley said Klay will get minutes at the backup SF spot.

by jonathannn on Jun 23, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions

you need three guards

What did we all say we lacked on this team – depth on the bench.
We just got it and some insurance if we trade Monta down the road.
Klay is better than Burks for our team because of his skill set and NBA ready game.
Klay can back up Monta and DWright.
In Logo I trust. He knows better than any of us.

by Togna Balogna on Jun 23, 2011 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions

we just resigned reggie

by gobsta on Jun 23, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions

No we didnt

We offered him a QO.

"Though that reminds me of a quality razor and mr. t story

he said once nellie was freaking out in locker room telling them how badly they sucked in first half. And he was so made he didn’t realize he hadn’t zipped up from his pee and his junk was hanging out." -Tafkasam

by Badly Browned on Jun 23, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Another team could still pick him up.

"Though that reminds me of a quality razor and mr. t story

by Badly Browned on Jun 23, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Hopefully Reggie garners some interest

So i can stop hearing the garbage about how great he is

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 23, 2011 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions

hahaha

This is a website for Warriors fans. There is a good player on our bench who contributes to our team winning, will likely contribute more if given more minutes and is an excellent shooter.
If you dont like hearing people talk good about him, you’re really on the wrong site.

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs

He's not great, I hate how you guys claim he is

He is a good role player, and that is his ceiling. If you think anything more, you’re dreaming.

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions

I see where you're coming from with your opinion

But those better versed in advanced stats than I claim he would produce as much or more wins than Monta if he were to replace Monta. Since many claim Monta is an All-Star talent, doesnt that say a lot about the level of Reggie’s contribution?

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions

Not at all

That is why the league doesnt use advanced stats as much as fans. They have their place somewhat, but watching reggie, i see a guy whose a streaky shooter, and beyond lost on defense, and is best served as an off the bench energy guy.

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions

I see Monta

i see a guy whose a streaky shooter, and beyond lost on defense, and is best served as an off the bench energy guy.

"There’s no such thing as off the charts, just get a bigger piece of paper. If you can’t figure that out you shouldn’t be charting anything" - Skep

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jun 24, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Reggie cant get to the rim half the ability monta can

Reggie spots up and shoots, thats it nothing else to offer what so ever. Will never come close to Monta APG or SPG

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions

this is at the crux of the Reggie versus Monta debate

It’s not that Reggie can’t make acrobatic finishes over 3 guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Oc7VBzpdE&feature=related

It’s just that he knows better than to take many of those kinds of shots

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Jun 24, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Lol okay buddy 1 highlight from 2 seasons ago

Great defense on what was simply an up and under haha

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions

A highlight is a highlight

the point is that it’s an awful shot to take. The proper basketball play is a pass and never a shot.

You are not a warrior; you're a beginner!

by Reverend_Randy on Jun 26, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions

He’s not great, I hate how you guys claim he is

I hate it when people argue against strawmen. I realize it’s much easier to argue against positions that you’re pretending people are taking or positions that you wish people would take, but it doesn’t accomplish much and, as it is here with you, it’s a transparent ruse.

I don’t really see many people arguing that Reggie is “great”. I see many more people describe him rather accurately for what he is: a rather efficient scorer who has scored at reasonably high but not extremely high volume, who has defensive shortcomings and has done most of what he’s done as a bench player in somewhat limited minutes, though it’s in line in what he’s done in a smaller sample of times when he was getting bigger minutes. That’s very different from arguing that he’s great.

Now if you want to continue to pretend that there’s this hyperbolic inflation of Reggie as “great”, you can do so, but since that’s a position that few or none are actually taking, you sound like a complete joke in the process. It reflects far more on the lack of quality of an argument coming from you than on anything else. [And if you’re doing this just to troll, be warned: trolls aren’t tolerated here for very long and they tend to find that their posts disappear. It’s easier for us to delete them than it is for you to post them.]

by jae on Jun 24, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Hahaha aww did i hit a nerve??

Some Curry fans are so sensitive. And yes there has been widespread support of Reggie being great even last year when they tried to claim hed do better in our starting lineup. But its okay haha i see some Curry fans dont respond well to criticism about anybody they like. But me, I can admit Monta has shortcomings defensively and offensively therefore I can see that in everybodys games and arguments. And I am sick of the widespread love or Reggie Williams, he’s garbage!

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Hahaha aww did i hit a nerve??

No, but you’ve paraded yourself around as someone who appears to know very, very little, and frankly, you’ve provided next to nothing to the site other than camp value. Being reasonable, thinking clearly and posting in a manner that suggests you’ve exercised a few neurons prior to posting would be be a good thing. It doesn’t appear that you have.

by jae on Jun 24, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

And yes there has been widespread support of Reggie being great even last year when they tried to claim hed do better in our starting lineup.

once again, we are not arguing that reggie is great, only that he would be better in the starting lineup than monta, who is an offensive negative. you don’t have to be great to be better than an offensive negative

by bigkino217 on Jun 24, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions

It’s good to pay attention to what people say and not write them off on the spot because you disagree with them. A good reason to write someone off is because they consistently show an inability to use reason or engage people in logical argument.

You are not a warrior; you're a beginner!

by Reverend_Randy on Jun 26, 2011 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions

He Monta is a good role player, and that is his ceiling. If you think anything more, you’re dreaming.

KOBE BRYANT IS DA GREA-TEST PLAYER IN DA HIS-TORY OF DA NBA- Warriors Head Coach Mark Jackson
Hand Down Man Down

by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 24, 2011 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions

The Monta trade is the next step

I think they can maximize Monta’s trade value after 40 games into next season. Then, hopefully, the Pacers will be looking to trade Granger or the Magic will begin to realize that trading Dwight Howard is the best decision in order to insure that they receive some talent before the 2012 free agency period

by Hundredthousanddollarpluswhipmaster on Jun 23, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Somewhat agree

I say give this 3 guard rotation to the all-star break, if we are in the 5-6 spot range, keep it together til the offseason and decide then. But if we are struggling, then trade Monta. I still want to see what Monta and Steph can do with a bench and decent center. Their 1st year together, we broke the record for man games missed. Their 2nd year together, we had a center who wouldnt start in a kindergarten pickup game on a plastic hoop, and a bench that was described as the worst in the last 20 years of the NBA and still managed 36 wins. Give it to the allstar break and decide then.

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 23, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions

I think they can maximize Monta’s trade value after 40 games into next season.

Maybe by then Biedrins will up his trade value too, with our new FO and coaching staff, it’s almost like he has been traded and is getting a new start, you never know.

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions

monta come off the bench

and go sign stevenson or caron butler

still need scorers but now the warriors can just add defenders and more defenders who come way cheaper than scorers

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 23, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Love the pick

He and Stephen will improve to be one of the smartest backcourts in the league. Both of these guys really know how to play basketball. I can see where West is going with this.

by lilboots on Jun 23, 2011 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

That can’t be overstated, this ups our team BBIQ from the ball handling position, I thought Lee was very good last year moving the ball through him also..

So many teams have great athletes but lack court vision and have low BBIQ’s, look how fast the ball moves up court when it’s in Curry’s hands, now multiply that with Klay…I’ll take it..

Like you said lilboot’s, it’s destiny!! these two were meant to play together!

by Cryptic on Jun 23, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

Dont know the games you watch

But i often see Steph walking lackadaisically upcourt or turning it over with a lazy pass upcourt. Rarely see him move the ball fast up court. And yeah, everyteam in the league hopes they play together. Their guards are gonna drop 40 each and this backcourt will easily be the worst defensive backcourt in the NBA. 6’7 doesnt make you a good defender.

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 23, 2011 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh, right. Forgot you were from that school that thinks all “shooters” are horrible defenders by default. Klay came a long way his junior season. He literally improved every area of his game. Go back and watch.

i often see Steph walking lackadaisically upcourt or turning it over with a lazy pass upcourt. Rarely see him move the ball fast up court.

You often “see”? I call bulls**t. Show me. By the way, I don’t think Cryptic was talking about Curry pulling a Westbrook. He moves the ball up the court by doing what point guards are supposed to do: Pass.

Also, there’s a big difference between lazy and risky passes. I’ll admit Curry is often guilty of the latter. That comes with the territory of being a 2nd year player, unless you’re Chris Paul or John Stockton.

6’7 Doesn’t make you a good defender. Yeah, but it’s much better than being 6’3. Length has a lot to do with being able to recover, contest, help, or close out.

by lilboots on Jun 24, 2011 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions

6'7 helps nothing

If height was a huge part of defense, why did that 7’7 kid from UNC Ashville never make the NBA? And the biggest knock on Klay is his defense, he’s HORRIBLE! And okay you wanna call it risky? So one handed passes that constantly are turnovers are risky? Okay bud

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions

If height was a huge part of defense, why did that 7’7 kid from UNC Ashville never make the NBA?

Height helps on defense. Alone it is not enough. You ‘reasoning’ that because one tall guy did not make it in the NBA means that height is not a huge part is simply moronic.

by jae on Jun 24, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions

He had his foot amputated.

No biggie.

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Hand Down Man Down

by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 24, 2011 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions

I can see where West is going with this.

Where?

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions

This was a fantastic draft by Warriors management

When was the last time you have heard that. They took the best players available at 11 and 44. No complaints. Very excited about the future.

by Hundredthousanddollarpluswhipmaster on Jun 23, 2011 9:07 PM PDT reply actions

not to mention picked up tyler for basically nothing, low risk but potential solid player

by gobsta on Jun 23, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Mark Jackson will help with his attitude and he could be a real role player for years to come

by Hundredthousanddollarpluswhipmaster on Jun 23, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Charles Jenkins

seems like a very enlightened young fellow. His tragic experiences have helped put things in perspective. It’s better to have a wake up call, understanding the significance of all your actions.

He’s a big, strong guard who’s a little reminiscent of Sam Cassel. Love the midrange game – so controlled and poised. The power on his drives also remind you a bit of Baron Davis.

I’m extremely impressed with this draft choice, and I think Jenkins is big enough to allow Curry to slide over to the off-guard for small stretches.

All of these guys have a chance to be very good players. They are all unique in their game.

by lilboots on Jun 24, 2011 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions

I’m feelin’ good about today. Sounds like Klay is a smart, well rounded player, and he obviously has good size. The 2nd round picks will be fun to watch, too. It’ll be good!

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by Naticus on Jun 23, 2011 9:17 PM PDT reply actions

Klay is a smart, but lackadaisical unemotional 1 dimensional offensive player.

By that I mean, he’s a great shooter, but does nothing else on offense and is horrid on defense. People say he can create his own shot? yeah right, ive seen him play. Also, his passing, i’ll stretch to below average/decent and thats a stretch.

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 23, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions

possible rotation for our Gs

Curry + Monta 20%
Monta + Klay 20%
Curry + Reggie 20%
Lin + Reggie 20%
Jekin + Klay 20%

by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Jun 23, 2011 9:17 PM PDT reply actions

lol yea cuz monta and curry are only gonna play 19 min a game each

that makes sense

by allstartyper on Jun 23, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions

i think this order is the best in my non humble opinion

curry reggie mostly (early season)
curry klay…
lin reggie
lin klay

pick and klay
pick reggie
pick ellis

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jun 25, 2011 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions

I'm pretty happy about this draft

If Jenkins can beat out Lin for backup PG then we’d have a solid backup PG.

:GSW-707:

by OaklandsFinest30 on Jun 23, 2011 9:18 PM PDT reply actions

No Doubt

I think Jenkins will earn the backup PG job after a few exhibition games

by Hundredthousanddollarpluswhipmaster on Jun 23, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions

I am excited about this kid

6’3 220 backup PG with his size speed and scoring, will be a great backup over law and lin

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 23, 2011 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions

We got Jermey Tyler

so I am happy with this pick.

by kinsaLL on Jun 23, 2011 9:19 PM PDT reply actions

“The No. 1 thing he definitely will bring is toughness,” said Warriors small forward Dorell Wright, adding that he’s played with Tyler during the summer for several years. “He’s still very young and raw. He has a lot of room to get better. He plays hard and is willing to work. I worked out every day with the kid, so I know he will fit in well for us.”

Myers said the first thing Tyler asked was when he could come to Oakland and begin working out. N’diaye said Tyler was frustrated he didn’t go in the first round and is bent on making the teams that passed him up pay.

“Everybody said this a great kid that needs direction and has tremendous upside,” Jackson said. "I’m excited about what lies ahead for this young man. He couldn’t have fallen into a better situation.

“I want to be not just a coach to this young man. I want to be a mentor. I want to be a father figure. I want to be somebody he understands he can trust and grow with. I want to give him every opportunity to succeed.”

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jun 25, 2011 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions

More quotations

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Warriors spent $2 million to buy rights to Jeremy Tyler. #LacobEffect

RattoCSN Ray Ratto
Larry Riley says Warriors want to invest “at least two years” in Tyler," Said team spent “a healthy dollar” for him,($2M confirmed by Riley)

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by Badly Browned on Jun 23, 2011 9:24 PM PDT reply actions

2 mil. Wow

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jun 23, 2011 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions

He SO wasn't a Riley pick.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 23, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Only reason why I'll like the pick is if we trade Monta

It’s obvious we have a good scorer in Klay, he’s average in rebounding, but I want him to defend. The front office keeps reiterating defense, this pick and extending an offer to Reggie does not seem like moves towards that D we’ve been promised.

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by ejdacanay on Jun 23, 2011 9:31 PM PDT reply actions

Klay and Reggie's defense >> Monta's defense

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 23, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions

That has to be the dumbest thing ive ever heard!

What makes their defense better? Theyre taller? hahaha Klay may be the worst defender in this draft at the guard position, and as much as you dont want to believe it, theres a reason Reggie didnt get drafted, and Morrow, and CJ….wait for it…..THEY ALL CANT PLAY DEFENSE AT ALL!

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 23, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions

That has to be the dumbest thing ive ever heard! What makes their defense better? Theyre taller?….wait for it…..THEY ALL CANT PLAY DEFENSE AT ALL!

That’s gota be the dumbest response I’ve ever heard. Gov. usually puts together much more solid arguments than I’ve read from you. Monta is not a good defender, that is well documented. Your little “taller?” response over and over is lame. And to think that you actually know the reason all other GMs didnt draft the above players was specifically due to their defensive liabilities? Is ~~ridiculous~~ the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions

So you think they are good defenders?

Then what was the reason they werent drafted? Whats the reason a 6’7 shooting guard with unlimited range and a “high bball” iq fall in one of the worst NBA drafts of all time? Maybe its because they dont like how he spends his name. And yes imsick of the he’s 6’7 argument that makes him a capable defender. NO IT DOESNT

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions

*Spells

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions

You're missing the whole point of your own conversation dude...

Klay and Reggie’s defense >> Monta’s defense

-Gov.

That has to be the dumbest thing ive ever heard!

-you

That’s gota be the dumbest response I’ve ever heard.

-Me

So you think they are good defenders?

-you
Bottom line, you dont have to be a good defender to be “better than” a bad defender. Gov.s’ assertion that their D is >> Monta’s can logically hold true, even if they are bad defenders, because, wait for it… Monta IS a bad defender.
Your only argument about them being tall has nothing to do with what Gov. said. Try to follow your own conversation next time.

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions

They are all bad defenders, never said Monta wasnt

But too bad’s dont equal good. Monta’s bad, Klays worse, Reggie has never heard the definition of Defense.

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Agreed

I dont think anyone said any of them were good on D. In the end, we all agree, they all suck at D

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah.

I just personally think Monta might be the singe worst SG defender in the league. Reggie could still be very bad, and represent a big upgrade.

KOBE BRYANT IS DA GREA-TEST PLAYER IN DA HIS-TORY OF DA NBA- Warriors Head Coach Mark Jackson
Hand Down Man Down

by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 24, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions

No one said that bad=good

but there can be a relevant difference between “worst in the league,” “poor,” and “below average.” If Klay’s defense is poor-below average, he’ll be a better defender than Monta.

You are not a warrior; you're a beginner!

by Reverend_Randy on Jun 26, 2011 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions

kevin martin jr

glad he stays on the west coast. the other three time zones were hating on him

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 23, 2011 9:35 PM PDT reply actions

2nd round was by far better than the 1st round

Jeremy Tyler could be the Monta of the draft, a young 2nd rounder who may pan out very well. Tyler has what we need, physicality under the paint, a banger on the glass, on defense, and has some post moves. That being said, the reason why he fell was because of maturity issues and a lack of effort, I have confidence that MJ and West can get him on the right track.

Jenkins looks like he could be a good backup guard in the future. He’s unselfish, he can score, and he’s a pest on D (Vujacic/Lin).

"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum

by ejdacanay on Jun 23, 2011 9:47 PM PDT reply actions

I know right, probably the first time I'm kinda glad MJ is on our side. If anyone can motivate, it should be him.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 23, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Losers per CBS

Golden State Warriors: How many guards can they need? New head coach Mark Jackson and GM Larry Riley constantly talked about defense. Then the Warriors took a shooter. They haven’t moved Monta Ellis, so now on roster they have Stephen Curry, Monta Ellis, Charlie Bell, Jeremy Lin, Acie Law, and Reggie Williams, and just added Klay Thompson. It was an unnecessary move with bigger players with more defensive presence available. The Warriors have enough talent to not need best player available. But again they opt for the usual. Disappointing

"I'm not a big vegetable guy'' he says. -Tim Lincecum

by ejdacanay on Jun 23, 2011 9:55 PM PDT reply actions

The Warriors have enough talent to not need best player available.

SMH. C’mon CBS.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 23, 2011 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Cbell has an early termination clause, Law is a free agent, and Williams was likely

only tendered to get compensation for him.

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 23, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions

We rally have few players at the guard positions

If we are looking to pull the trigger on a Monta trade, or just give him more rest, it makes sense to pick some up and improve our bench

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions

If these are depth picks I am fine with it

Klay to backup monta and jenkins to backup Curry. That sounds like an upgrade over Law/lin and williams. Agreed? I say we give this a year and then decide what to do from there.

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions

I wouldnt mind giving it a year

But I also wouldnt mind getting a good deal for Monta (whatever that might be). That’s what’s nice about having Reggie and picking these guys up, we wont miss much of a step if we trade monta (though I will miss Monta).
If we do wait a year, thats ok because it may be a loss season anyway with the strike, and I think Monta’s flat rate contract will only gain in trade value with each passing year.

by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 24, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions

I can agree with that

by NATIONSGREATEST on Jun 24, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Jeremy Tyler at the combine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9ULldu9DlM
Some really good commentary about his maturity and skill set.

Wanna feel real torture? Try being a Warrior fan.

by luvmydubz23 on Jun 23, 2011 10:00 PM PDT reply actions

alec burks over thompson, darius morris over jenkins, tyler great pick up

still really like thompson, just think burks will be better, but it was still a good pick
we already have 3 scoring guards, so why draft another in jenkins when we could get a good passer(d morris) who could work with scorers thompson or ellis
tyler was a good pick up since we didnt waste any draft picks or players on him and he might turn out hella well

by sf_cutty on Jun 23, 2011 11:08 PM PDT reply actions

I have no idea how this became so long, but here are my thoughts on the draft:

I was initially not happy about the pick, and even posted here about not wanting Thompson before the draft. There were decent reasons to be upset about it. Guys like Leonard and Singleton definitely have higher defensive upside. But I was thinking about it when I was washing dishes (we have no dishwasher and a deep sink, so piling up can occur) and decided that I honestly believe Mark Jackson and Michael Malone think they can make the Warriors already on the roster play better defense. Knowing this, the FO felt they didn’t necessarily need to spend their top pick on a player who’s game they’re not keen on overall, despite their defensive abilities.

I realize that if you want to play better defense, you need better defensive players, but in terms of guys who already possess NBA athleticism, it mostly comes down to desire. Ultimately instilling that desire to play defense comes down to coaching. Even Monta, while forever limited by his height and reach, could be a better defender if he used his quickness to stay in front of his man instead of gambling for steals (although I do feel this draft has placed the writing on the wall for Monta. A 6’7" 2-guard the new FO loves and a super-scoring combo guard in the 2nd? I hope wherever you end up you do well, Monta. We’ll always have ‘07-’08).

Regardless of if Ellis goes or stays, the Warriors are already elite offensively (and if Thompson is what the FO thinks he is, they only just got better), so it shouldn’t take much of a defensive improvement to make them a very good team. The way the Dubs can fill the net, a little defense is better than none. If the new coaching staff and FO think they can accomplish that with the Warriors currently on the roster, well, I’m willing to wait and see if they’re right.

The Tyler grab is pretty sweet, too. This kid was, what, a top three, maybe the number one prospect in the country before he pulled a Brandon Jennings? Stats and attitude issues for an 18 year old playing professionally in a foreign country notwithstanding, this is a great low risk/high reward payoff. Riley crying over the 2 mil it cost to get him is residual from him spending time with Rowell. The Warriors are a big market team and can afford to act like it. It’s just been so long since they have.

So, all in all, I’ve got no beef, provided they can, in fact, make the current players play better defense. When Cohan was finally gone, I told myself I’d give Lacob and Co. three years. I haven’t held to that as much as I’d like, but I have to take it on like a mantra “new ownership new ownership new ownership” and try to keep my patience. I liked the Myers hire, I liked the West hire, I was not happy about Mark Jackson but I was very happy about Mike Malone. So, for now, I can’t get too bent out of shape about it and I’ll trust the logo. I hope Thompson is a beast and from what I’ve heard and read, he could be. Welcome to the Dubs, Klay!

"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug

by the guy on Jun 24, 2011 12:35 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs

I think you guys had a pretty good draft. Good luck.

I would grade it a B.

by tenkaistar on Jun 24, 2011 2:18 AM PDT reply actions

Warriors still prioritizing the pretty jump shot over any semblance of stopping ability. Meet the new boss…same as the old boss.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Jun 24, 2011 7:17 AM PDT reply actions

The MOST important sign from the draft is...

What to me is the BEST sign of our future is the outright purchase of Jeremy Tyler, the young head case, from Charlotte. Whether he pans out or not, the BIG DEAL about this move is the willingness of Lacob to $PEND DOLLAR$ for players. THAT’S very encouraging.

This was an interesting- if not exciting- draft for us in that we now have a decent depth in the backcourt. I think we can win ten games more just by improving our bench and these picks should help.

Now all we need is to get much better at the 3,4 and 5.

:-)

Yeah, I know it sounds familiar, but….

FREE AGENCY: here we come!!!

- W's, Raiders and A's fan since '68

by v7i7c on Jun 24, 2011 9:40 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jun 25, 2011 2:18 AM PDT up reply actions

Quote from chronicle...scares me

“…They also think Thompson can develop into a good defender, despite little collegiate tape that indicates he has defensive abilities or above average athleticism.
Riley admits that Thompson isn’t a lockdown defender but believes his understanding of the game and new coach Mark Jackson’s team-defensive philosophy will help.”

by sf_cutty on Jun 24, 2011 11:45 AM PDT reply actions