Could Andris Biedrins Be The Next Rockets Center?

it's funny how much "worse" has Monta gotten over 1 month

when he didn’t even play

by SDtotheBay on Jun 25, 2011 2:40 PM PDT reply actions

What?

You are not a warrior; you're a beginner!

by Reverend_Randy on Jun 25, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions

he's sucked since may 1st

averaging 0.0ppg, 0 fg%, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, no defense…

by tafkasam on Jun 25, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions

He's done absolutely nothing positive on the court since then

by yo on Jun 25, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions

but he also hasn’t been negative, which is a HUGE improvement over the last season.

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by Reverend_Randy on Jun 25, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions

WE NEED MORE FROM THE BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM THAN TO BE A BLANK SLATE!!!

by yo on Jun 25, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions

The thing I like about you Atma is that you aren't predictable.

by Spider Jerusalem on Jun 25, 2011 2:40 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs

Wow

it’s like these guys missed the last two seasons.

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by Reverend_Randy on Jun 25, 2011 3:00 PM PDT reply actions

I can't believe those Houston fans want Biedrins

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by Evanz on Jun 25, 2011 3:00 PM PDT reply actions

Ha, so predictable

Everyone thinks, from an outside perspective, ‘we can be the guys who get him back to his potential’

by tafkasam on Jun 25, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Mind blown!

They would give us anything it sounds like.

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by dont_stop_believin' on Jun 25, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions

It makes sense.

You see a young, cheap, formerly productive center whose recent struggles can be justified by injuries, etc., and it’s easy to make a case for Biedrins. It’s easy to believe in regression to the mean with him (unless you’ve watched him recently and understand that there’s a very real chance that his mean has shifted).

by Spider Jerusalem on Jun 25, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Exactly

by Bigmouth on Jun 26, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

i cant either, normally fans follow the perspective of their gm

and i thought morey was one of the 5 brightest gm’s in the league

i would settle for t-will, pat pat, and thabeet for bieds and dorell

then have to sing a legit center in the offseason obviously and then either re-sign reggie or find another shooter in FA

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 25, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions

then have to sing a legit center

here is Shaq singing

Even if you do succeed most people wouldn't notice anyway.

by Lat We N Trash on Jun 25, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions

They also got Jonny Flynn

Morey’s on a tear

by tafkasam on Jun 25, 2011 3:04 PM PDT reply actions

No Flynn.

I picked him up in fantasy and it was a mistake.

"Go ahead. Make my day."

by callahan on Jun 25, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions

they almost have a third of the 09 draft lottery

2. thabeet
6 flynn
8. hill
11. t-will

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 25, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Everyone on Dream Shake seems to want Beans really badly.

And they want to trade Scola for him. Am I crazy for thinking that would be highway robbery? Also, would a Scola/Lee frontcourt be god awful?

by yo on Jun 25, 2011 3:05 PM PDT reply actions

im gonna go ahead and say yes. it will be god awful.

by Jiriest Welsch on Jun 25, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions

defensively speaking of course.

by Jiriest Welsch on Jun 25, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Offensively it might be beautiful

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by Reverend_Randy on Jun 25, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Except both are too undersized to play 5 in the halfcourt.

Blocks galore

by tafkasam on Jun 25, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions

I was under the impression that Scola was a pretty good post-scorer.

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by Reverend_Randy on Jun 25, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions

vs. 4s

vs 5’s he’s too short/unathletic

by tafkasam on Jun 25, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd happily Biedrins trade for Scola...

And happily trade him again in a package deal with Monta :)

by lilboots on Jun 25, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions

no he can score against 5's

its just he’s a defensive liability against 4’s and 5’s plus he has a nagging knee injury and a back-loaded contract like lee(uuggghhhhh)

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 25, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes it would be

But I’d rather have Scola than Lee. 5years/40 mil > 6 years/80 mil for similar players

Morey’s contract negotiation ability> Rileys

by tafkasam on Jun 25, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Jordan Hill for Biedrins?

Houston can absorb his contract. Hill’s got potential to be a useful bench big man for us.

It’d also free up 6.2 mil in cap space, giving us 13+ to go for center

by tafkasam on Jun 25, 2011 3:07 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah I don’t think they want anything to do with Hill anymore considering Patterson has been solid and their fetish for Chuck Hayes.

by DubsFan408 on Jun 25, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions

wouldn't mind the chuckster to be honest.

He’s pretty much opposite of all our big men

by tafkasam on Jun 25, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Houston's over the cap

how can they absorb Biedrins’ contract?

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by Evanz on Jun 25, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions

I think Thabeet would have to be in the trade

I don’t think Morely is crazy, although he seems to be the most hyperactive GM. But to be able absorb Biedren’s salary, they would need Thabeet’s $5 million + contract to be part of the deal. Perhaps the Rockets would add a sweetener to make the deal work, Terrance Williams, or hopefully, Patrick Patterson.

by San Francisco Slim on Jun 25, 2011 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm

Next year 44 mil committed pre-rookie contracts

by tafkasam on Jun 25, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Right

The Warriors need to take back at least $7 million in contracts for the deal to work. I don’t think the Rockets would want to include either Martin, Scola or Lowry in the trade, so I think it would have to be Thabeet and something else. Unless the Warriors would trade more than Biedrins, then who knows….

I’d be very impressed if the Warriors could trade Beidrins. If the Rockets are serious, they must feel that McHale can turn Beans around.

by San Francisco Slim on Jun 25, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions

houston has trade exception.

they can take about seven plus million of it only needing to give up about two million

by chupamelapolla on Jun 25, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Very Good

I’m still wondering if the Rockets would make the Warriors take Thabeet, in order to secure a deal. From the Warriors point of view, Thabeet only has one guaranteed year on his contract, compared to three for Beidrins.

by San Francisco Slim on Jun 25, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions

see front page

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by Evanz on Jun 25, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Doesn't work

Houston can’t add player with trade exception. They can only take a player worth the trade exception or less than.

by Psion on Jun 26, 2011 5:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

I just want a first round pick next year

just that, pleazzzzzzz

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by Evanz on Jun 25, 2011 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Well, if we get Jordan Hill, I could live with that.

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by Naticus on Jun 25, 2011 3:11 PM PDT reply actions

Biedrins is the #1 reason the Golden State Warriors were so awful in 2010-2011.

not really, but if that makes u feel better then ok. i wouldn’t put him any higher than the 3rd reason

by AJC3317 on Jun 25, 2011 3:18 PM PDT reply actions

of course

Monta is #1 and 2. You are about as unpredictable as atma

by SDtotheBay on Jun 25, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions

monta and smart

not necessarily in that order

by AJC3317 on Jun 25, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions

ya, ok.

the sky is also purple not blue

by chupamelapolla on Jun 25, 2011 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions

if u wanna believe

that a guy who played less than 24 mpg in 59 games (essentially a bench player) had more of a negative impact than a guy who had the worst +/- of any high minute guy in the league then i don’t know what to tell u

by AJC3317 on Jun 25, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions

he had a negative impact because he was supposed to BE the center.

the lack of having a center on your team is really negative to the team.

by chupamelapolla on Jun 25, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions

i don't disagree

that he sucked. it’s just not as impactful on the team as having the guy playing the most minutes being one of the worst players in the league, or having a coach completely clueless about which players to use in which situations

by AJC3317 on Jun 25, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions

so not having a decent center is not impact-full?

by chupamelapolla on Jun 25, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions

where did i say that?

not as impactful =/= not impactful. it certainly had an effect, but not as much as the other factors. not to mention we had a decent starting center in udoh by the end of the year

by AJC3317 on Jun 25, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions

ekpe was not given major role at center until really late in the year. gazuric started many games. the center position was a mess because of beidrins. not having a center hurt the team the most.

by chupamelapolla on Jun 25, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions

rly

how much do you think you’d like to play for franchise which effed up your health because of owners penny pinchin’

Even if you do succeed most people wouldn't notice anyway.

by Lat We N Trash on Jun 25, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Not to mention

Also problems/complications with the birth of his child, or so I read. I imagine that’ll do wonders for your psyche.

by ender2148 on Jun 25, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Of course its Beans.

The team is once again last in rebounding & Beans is too scared to even play on the court. Beans on the court makes it basically 4 on 5 offensively.

by srsrs on Jun 26, 2011 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions

Biedrins is the #1 reason the Golden State Warriors were so awful in 2010-2011.

I’d say it was equal parts of Dre, Binky’s bad ankle, Lee’s vampire bite, and lack of size.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 25, 2011 3:46 PM PDT reply actions

please do.

Hopefully we can just trade Scola for him straight up.

by chupamelapolla on Jun 25, 2011 3:48 PM PDT reply actions

I'd love to trade Lee for Scola straight up

and have Biedrins

by SDtotheBay on Jun 25, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions

They're excited about Biedrins..

Even read some comments, I’ve seen some like: “I hope we can trade Scola for him straight up” and people saying “It’s gonna take more than that”…………..WOW.

by LGW on Jun 25, 2011 3:52 PM PDT reply actions

beans needs to be moved.

by chupamelapolla on Jun 25, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Ya I saw that yesterday

made me chuckle.

:GSW-707:

by OaklandsFinest30 on Jun 25, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Even read some comments, I’ve seen some like: "I hope we can trade Scola for him straight up" and people saying "It’s gonna take more than that

Haha, No it’s not. Bring me Scola and you got Dre.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 25, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm not interested in adding Scola. He's very similar to Lee in terms of where he wants to operate. And he's owed a lot of money (and he's old).

by Spider Jerusalem on Jun 25, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Scola is very good. I’d take him in a heartbeat.

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by Naticus on Jun 25, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Doesn't matter if Scola is similar to Lee

He has value around the league, much more than Andris Biedrins. We could simply make another trade and equal the value for a player who is better suited to the roster. Houston would be very stupid to make this trade before the FA period’s end.

by lilboots on Jun 25, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Well i'd trade Lee for Scola in a heartbeat.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 26, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Well i'd trade Lee for Scola in a heartbeat.

pending a clear report on his knee?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 26, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions

I said "It's gonna take more than that" because your GM said it's not going to be easy to acquire Biedrins.

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close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Jun 27, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions

off-topic

what is the max contract that Marc Gasol and DeAndre Jordan can be offered?

by chupamelapolla on Jun 25, 2011 3:59 PM PDT reply actions

wont be determined until new cba

because rookie salary structure which is what that is based off of will be different

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 25, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions

PLEASE

No one go over there and tell them what we really think of Biedrins. Let them convince themselves that he could actually become a decent player.

by ERock386 on Jun 25, 2011 4:03 PM PDT reply actions

so you think

nobody from TDS reads this blog?

Even if you do succeed most people wouldn't notice anyway.

by Lat We N Trash on Jun 25, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah because The Dream Shake makes all the trade decisions for the Rockets right?

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by doubleteapot on Jun 25, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions

just like we make all the decisions for the warriors!

by AJC3317 on Jun 25, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah I got a feeling the Rockets won’t trade for Biedrins. I don’t know why, but it might have something to do with his free throws and basketball ability.

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by doubleteapot on Jun 25, 2011 4:04 PM PDT reply actions

they might.

depends on what the warriors back in return. houston has a 7 something million trade exception. warriors can take back a much cheaper player that may even be expiring. if the warriors wanted to dump beans that would be the way to do if houston wanted him.

by chupamelapolla on Jun 25, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions

They desperately need a center.

They don’t have the kind of team that could draw a Nene, or any other of the top FA centers for that matter. They’re so hungry for a 5 it’s unbelievable. If your center was 6’6 you might be a little jaded with your options as well.

by lilboots on Jun 25, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions

SEE FRONT PAGE GUYS

Thabeet and Hill not enough for Biedrins. sigh

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by Evanz on Jun 25, 2011 4:14 PM PDT reply actions

wow.

hill would be an instant backup PF to lee and then the warriors would have about an extra 4-5 million to find a free agent center

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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Jun 25, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions

trade biedrins for chuckster or hill

by AmaruEternal1989 on Jun 25, 2011 4:24 PM PDT reply actions

There should be a deal somewhere.

Thabeet/Hill and Chase Budinger?

Thabeet/Hill and Patrick Patterson?

Thabeet/Hill and Goran Dragic?

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by callahan on Jun 25, 2011 4:41 PM PDT reply actions

I think if the Warriors take Thabeet

that the Rockets could include a Budinger/Patterson/Dragic/T. Williams. We wouldn’t have to include Hill, whom I don’t think can play. I’m not really sure if Williams can play either, but the others mentioned are good young players.

by San Francisco Slim on Jun 25, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions