Jeremy Tyler's upside?

The upside of an 80 HR power potential

with the ability to stop the run and shed blocks and average a quad-double in the league.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jun 26, 2011 3:04 PM PDT reply actions

Upside - Sam Perkins

Downside – Chris Washburn

by streetballer on Jun 26, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions

or

Eddie Curry. HA

by highflya on Jun 26, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions

or God rest his soul -

Robert “Tractor” Trailer

by streetballer on Jun 26, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

I think he can be DeAndre Jordan

his floor is POB (just about any big man’s floor is POB)

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by Evanz on Jun 26, 2011 3:05 PM PDT reply actions

I think the Jordan ceiling is accurate.

Same general lack of skill level/IQ but (somewhat) made up for with athletic ability.

by Spider Jerusalem on Jun 26, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Jordan was also a second round pick

and he’s even bigger (7’6" wingspan, 9’5.5" reach)

funny enough DX says his upside is Bynum and downside is…wait for it…POB!

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"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)

by Evanz on Jun 26, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions

i still don't get how he fell to the 2nd round

i wanted the warriors to take him at 14 that year

by bigkino217 on Jun 26, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Major headcase. He had an awful, awful year at Texas A&M.

His numbers were ok, but he had a lot of maturity issues and ended up coming off the bench (despite being their most highly touted recruit in a while) and not playing very many minutes (relative to his talent).

I remember watching quite a few of his games (because he was so hyped) and really being disappointed in how much of a project he was, even at that level. The fact that he’s turned himself into a serviceable pro is pretty commendable, really.

by Spider Jerusalem on Jun 26, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions

I believe he had a 0-0 game in ncaa tourny

by tafkasam on Jun 26, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Hes sooo atheletic

And I don’t think this ownership will let him rot like Patrick O’Badkid.

by Anonymous1337 on Jun 26, 2011 3:18 PM PDT reply actions

He has all the tools to be great. I’ll admit I much rather have Mark Jackson mentoring him as a Head Coach than Budenholzer. But physically he has all the tools to be a allstar. Its about the heart and the mental.

by J-RIDAH on Jun 26, 2011 3:18 PM PDT reply actions

J-RIDAH, Mr. Optimistic as usual.

by DubsFan408 on Jun 26, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions

He has ups and a 7’5 wingspan with a 9’2 standing reach with speed and agility especially for a guy 262. With those tools you should be optimistic aswell. Just gotta get him to use those tools.

by J-RIDAH on Jun 26, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions

for once i agree with you. haha.. very excited about what mark can do with this kid.

by bballinpacisler on Jun 26, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions

so far i've seen just fat loudmouth

i can only hope he’ll mature soon

Even if you do succeed most people wouldn't notice anyway.

by Lat We N Trash on Jun 26, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Where have you seen this?

All the information about his “attitude” is mostly from 2009…most of the recent interviews have shown him to be more articulate and pretty grounded IMO. His body fat % wasn’t too far from Irving’s in the combine.

by warriorsablaze on Jun 26, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Haha.

He’s just jelly because he’s threatening Beans’ position.

'Like' my band. I mean, it'd be awesome if you did that.

by slapchop on Jun 27, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Something like Bill Russells defense and rebounding with MJ's offense

by tafkasam on Jun 26, 2011 3:22 PM PDT reply actions

Ceiling? Amare Stodemire or Dwight Howard or Shawn Kemp

He is a big dude that could dunk on a 12 foot rim, depending if he has Amare’s knack for scooring or Dwight’s Knack for blocking shots. I mean really if we are talking upside a young man his size that moves like he does, and with him having that high of body fat he really is not in shape yet… Scary athletic ability and I am going to guess since he had his bubble burst hit with his failures in Israel as well as falling to the second round (plus having MJ “sell” you for cash) he should be motivated to work hard. From the film and how highly he was thought of before leaving for Israel he can be something special… Then again we said the same thing about Anthony Randolph he just hasn’t turned his ability into production.

by Mr. Jesse From Anchorage, AK on Jun 26, 2011 3:32 PM PDT reply actions

He is a big dude that could dunk on a 12 foot rim

you’d have to be able to jump higher than 12’ to dunk on a 12’ rim. and lots of big men can jump 12’. Darko Milicic can jump 12’. in the past very few combine #’s were available

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?year=All&sort2=DESC&draft=&pos=&source=All&sort=13

he reminds me of a C version of Anthony Randolph in his clips from Japan. we’ll see if he has more of an IQ for the game.

by homer simpson on Jun 26, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions

DEF agree shawn kemp potential

thats really exciting but at the same time.. hes more likely gonna bust like all those other athletic big men with no skill or motivation.. very interested to see what jackson can do with him =]

by bballinpacisler on Jun 26, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree with the Shawn Kemp thing

Only if you are referring to his ability to be fat

by NextSeason on Jun 26, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Comes down to whether or not he's happy just to make the League, or if he wants to DESTROY the League.

I don’t think we’ll know for a while being that there isnt a summer league now.

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by SmittytheCutman on Jun 26, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions

there are two huge, unknown variables

with the young man, and as Nelson has tried to caution us before with guys who are 19 or 20, their brains haven’t completed their growth and development. a}what’s his capacity to focus, maintain disciplined work without getting quick gratification in the form of playing time ? (b) hoops i.q. and court vision ?

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by the.monk on Jun 26, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions

He has the same tools as Kanter and Cousins. And is the same age as both. If he wants it he can be a Allstar in the west 1 day. Its only a few good centers in the West as of now.

by J-RIDAH on Jun 26, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions

He has the same tools as Kanter and Cousins. And is the same age as both.

well except hand width. Tyler has some freakishly small hands 9" vs Cousins 10" and Kanter 10.75". btw, Kanter is actually a year younger than Tyler.

unless you’re physically elite like Lebron or Dwight, the most important tool is still the brain. which it looks like Cousins doesn’t have. we’ll see about Kanter and Tyler.

it’ll be interesting to see if he’s just another knucklehead like Anthony Randolph or Javale McGee or if he actually gets it like DeAndre Jordan or Kendrick Perkins and focusing on what should be his NBA skills which are rebounding, hustling, contesting shots, learning to play team defense and dunking.

by homer simpson on Jun 26, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Jordan isn't all that much better than McGee..

he’s so overrated here, no idea why you guys think he’s some smart, athletic player that “gets” it

by SDtotheBay on Jun 26, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions

i don't get why you always resort to a straw man argument making up stuff that nobody said.

where do i say he’s smart? i don’t even say he’s athletic — he’s actually long more than he’s athletic (9’5" standing reach, only a 27" vert w/ no step, 30" w/ 3 steps). but i don’t think you understand what “getting it” is.

he “gets it” b/c he doesn’t try to do things he can’t do. like shoot jumpers. he doesn’t run out there on offense like a chicken w/ his head cut off, chucking up jumpers or trying to dribble the ball or shoot every time he touches it like AR, Javale do and Tyler seems to do in Japan. once he figures out how to play team defense and what the defensive principles are, he should be fine.

by homer simpson on Jun 26, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions

too bad I didn’t say anything about your post, I said he’s overrated HERE and YOU GUYS has nothing to do with your post.

by SDtotheBay on Jun 26, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions

come on, don’t insult my intelligence. you replied to my post and included me by saying “you guys” b/c you assumed that i was inferring that DJ has a high bball IQ, which i wasn’t. you can either take my advice and stop assuming things or not. it’s no big deal either way, i’d just rather have conversations on here than what we usually get when people disagree.

by homer simpson on Jun 26, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions

oh lord, not your precious intelligence

my deepest apologies.

by SDtotheBay on Jun 26, 2011 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions

I don’t think there is a soul who thinks that Jordan is a smart player. He is very overrated here, though. I like him, but he is definitely more of the big, athletic guy who can rebound and block shots than the heady guy who makes plays for his teammates.

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by Reverend_Randy on Jun 26, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions

yes, rev agreed with me!!! what a start to a monday.

by SDtotheBay on Jun 27, 2011 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions

Welcome to the working week

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by Reverend_Randy on Jun 27, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions

I wonder if the small hands are why...

…he turns the ball over so much in the post. Regarding his work ethic, I do think he’s demonstrated that by working hard to develop his jump shot.

by Bigmouth on Jun 26, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

POB must have worked to get a sky hook as well as hit jumpers, but that doesn’t mean much when it doesn’t go in… and a lot of his shots don’t go in. Udoh clearly has moves, but the ball rarely ever goes in.

watch this and tell me you still want to see dude taking jumpers in games

by homer simpson on Jun 26, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Prime Wilt

by SDtotheBay on Jun 26, 2011 4:47 PM PDT reply actions

I'm skeptical

I read one analysis of his Japan league play that suggested he was below-average compared to other import players. The author of the analysis was optimistic, noting that Tyler improved dramatically in the latter part of the season. Still, his numbers for the season overall were disappointing.

by Bigmouth on Jun 26, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

I think he can be solid 5 that doesnt hurt his team

I don’t think he’ll be an all star. But if he can be dependable for defense, rebounding, put backs and 50% from within 6 feet. I’ll be happy. Assuming we continue to be a guard dependable offensive team.