The Golden State Warriors Direct Affiliation With D-League's Dakota Wizards Is Good, If Not 'Exciting'

by Nate Parham on Jun 27, 2011 5:32 PM PDT in News

Golden State Warriors fans are probably more familiar with the value of the NBA's Development League than any other fanbase in the league.

With Reggie Williams being the latest of 10 players the Warriors have pulled from the D-League, they have proven that it can be a valuable resource to find players to fill in here and there when necessary.

So as a franchise that has consistently mined the D-League for talent, today's news that GSW, LLC has officially bought the D-League's Dakota Wizards is an encouraging sign of the franchise's commitment to developing young talent for the future. As Marcus Thompson II wrote about the news, the Warriors will be the fourth NBA franchise to own a D-League team with the other three being the Los Angeles Lakers, San Antonio Spurs, and Oklahoma City Thunder.

That's not bad company to be in and when you look at the franchise's excitement about their current group of rookies, establishing a stronger connection to the league's formal developmental arm makes a lot of sense, as Scott Shroeder of SB Nation's Ridiculous Upside describes.

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This season, however, there's a good chance the Warriors will instead use the D-League to develop the younger players on its roster. The Warriors picked up three new players in last week's NBA Draft -- Klay Thompson, Charles Jenkins and Jeremy Tyler -- and last season's rookies Jeremy Lin, Ekpe Udoh and Jeff Adrien could also conceivably see a stint in the Development League.

Yes, new Warriors coach Mark Jackson has said that Tyler will have the opportunity to play right away. But until they actually get him into training camp to go up against NBA players, there's no reason to rule out the possibility of sending him - or Jenkins or Thompson - to the D-League.

Although you have to admire the team for being in "win now" mode, the fact is that it's hard to see who the Warriors will leapfrog to get into next year's playoffs at this time. There's certainly merit to the theory that players develop better by practicing against other NBA players and learning their team's system with their coaches. But if it's clear that a rookie is a long way from getting any minutes in a NBA regular season game, an opportunity to sharpen skills through game experience with the type of frequent communication that owning a D-League team brings would appear to have enormous potential.

The remaining question that Thompson posts, which figures to be answered during tomorrow's press conference, is whether the Warriors will maintain their affiliation with the Reno Bighorns. But Thompson also reports interest in moving the team to an even more convenient location for Warriors fans.

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Certainly would be better logistically for the the Warriors to send their youngsters to Reno instead of all the way to North Dakota. But, eventually, the hope is the Warriors’ D-League affiliate will be in the Bay Area, likely San Jose.

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Great news! Should go a long way in building a quality franchise. Start with Mark Jackson and clear half of the bench! :)

by dinohealth on Jun 27, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions

Definitley good news.

So now we have essentially a real minor league affiliate that we can control and make sure develop our guys the way we want. Does it also mean we will have basketball during the lockout? or is the D-league gonna be part of the lockout? Would be nice if we could get our guys in there if there is a prolonged lockout.

Maybe nothing that would instantly make us a contender, but this is good news either way.

Btw, I think that quotation about last year’s rookie is supposed to say Jeremy Lin, not Jeremy Tyler lol.

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by Badly Browned on Jun 27, 2011 6:18 PM PDT reply actions

also this

The hope is to move the team to San Jose, but it probably won’t happen right away, one source said. Another source said the Warriors will explore multiple Northern California options. Either way, the team will stay in Dakota for at least a year.

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Seems pretty saavy, and shows that the new ownership group is indeed willing to plunk down some cold hard cash.

Boy, if Lacob could get these guys into San Jose (or even Sac – after the Kings leave)….awesome

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Jun 28, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions

(or even Sac – after the Kings leave)

NOPE

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by Vinson916 on Jun 28, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions

I dunno

I bet Sac would love to have a D league team once the Kings take off to LA
; )

I would love to have our D league team close enough to check out.
When Lin got sent down last year, he (and Adrien) were blowing it up. It would have been cool to see that first hand

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Jun 29, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Aha what makes you so sure the Kings are leaving?

Give us a chance man ;D They would of left already if they didn’t think Sacramento can build an arena. And it’s unlikely any team will move to Anaheim. Jerry Buss doesn’t want any teams penetrating his markets. Move your D-league team to Chico

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by Vinson916 on Jul 1, 2011 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions

Great news.

I was told this would likely happen, but i didn’t believe it until now.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 6:30 PM PDT reply actions

I meant i wasn't sure if we would outright buy it, or just own the basketball side of the business.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

#FAIL

and last season’s rookies Jeremy Tyler, Ekpe Udoh and Jeff Adrien could also conceivably see a stint in the Development League.

by iHypeTV on Jun 27, 2011 6:37 PM PDT reply actions

I corrected

Meant Jeremy Lin. But nice job with the #FAIL, bro.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 27, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

LOL I thought I was reading it wrong for some reason.

by iHypeTV on Jun 27, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions

I corrected as well...

Thanks for the catch…

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by Nate Parham on Jun 27, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions

There’s ZERO chance the Warriors will stay affiliated with a team they don’t own because that would mean other NBA teams would have to be affiliated with a team owned by the Warriors. They’ll definitely be affiliated with Dakota this season.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 27, 2011 6:43 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah, that only makes sense.

I tweeted you a few months back saying this would happen, not sure if you saw that.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions

It's been rumored for awhile

But I always had been connecting them with Reno. Wonder what made them decide to go Dakota instead (but since I live here, I’m not complaining)?

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 27, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions

I think purchasing the team in it's entirety and not in hybrid form was a big deal.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions

That seems to be turning the point

But I wonder why Reno wouldn’t agree to that or why they didn’t just go with a hybrid agreement with Dakota this season instead of buying the business side as well … at least until they can move the team.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 27, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Probably because they'll move the franchise.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions

I never get why D-League players almost never get a chance. Some of those guys are pretty good.

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by doubleteapot on Jun 27, 2011 7:18 PM PDT reply actions

the best players in the d league are constantly being signed to 10 day contracts

if they can’t make a roster, it’s unlikely the rest of the d league is capable

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions

There are plenty of players each season

That don’t get call-ups that would be better NBA players than those already in the league.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 27, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yup.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions

the problem is

a lot of those awful players that are already in the league are under contract already.

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions

and by contracts i mean guaranteed contracts.

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Not necessarily.

Why do scrubs like Jarron Collins, Francisco Elson, Acie Law, Devean George, etc keep floating around the league?

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions

i don't know

why are some 12th men on NBA teams so dominant when they get sent down to the d league?

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Like who?

Big men from the d-league aren’t nearly as good as the wings, so take that into consideration.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions

same goes for a good portion of the scrubs in the NBA

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions

i really have no explanation for law

other than keith smart liked him when no other team did.

devean george was under contract up until last year. and i’d say there aren’t a whole lot of scrubs that play the wing that aren’t at least close to as good as the best d leaguers.

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions

A lot of wings in the dleague are pretty good.

The points usually are combo guards, but can be useful. You’ll be lucky to find a competent big like Tolliver. I can only think of Chris Andersen and Tolliver that were useful bigs from the d-league.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions

yea i agree that there are some good wings in the d league

but how bad are the worst wings in the nba that aren’t under guaranteed contracts?

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions

terrence williams can't crack houstons rotation

yet he had 2 triple doubles and a near triple double in the 3 games he spent in the d league. joe alexander is pretty dominant in the d league despite never doing anything at the nba level.

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions

pretty much if you can't dominate in the d league

teams are never going to give you a chance to make a roster. the ones that are good enough generally make rosters and earn contracts.

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Or it takes massive injury situations to even give someone like Reggie a chance.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Joe Alexander’s a completely different player than when he played in the NBA.

As far as Terrence Williams? Box scores don’t tell the whole story.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 27, 2011 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Joe Alexander’s a completely different player than when he played in the NBA

is that why he can’t even get a 10 day contract in the nba?

by bigkino217 on Jun 28, 2011 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions

Obviously you know a lot more about him than I do, I guess?

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 28, 2011 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions

i know enough to tell that nba teams still don't want him

by bigkino217 on Jun 28, 2011 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions

They're all under guaranteed contracts, but if you mean nomadic players who suck:

Ryan Gomes
Von Wafer
Luther Head
Sonny Weems
Jeff Green
Rasual Butler
Joey Graham
Dahntay Jones
Damien Wilkins…
etc

All these players keep going around the league on 1 year contracts when we know they suck. Why not just call up a top dleaguer and give them a shot?

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions

i'd guess that a lot of those players would dominate in the d league

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions

I doubt it honestly.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions

i'd consider all of those players better than a joe alexander or a 35 year old antoine walker

and they both do pretty well in the d league

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, but you have to consider whether they're AAAA type of players (not sure if you've heard term before) or just players deserving of a shot.

Like i said, those guys are playing as big men, and the d leagues bigs aren’t very good. You have to take their stats with a grain of salt. Would Walker play as a center for any NBA team? Would Joe play exclusively at the 4 against scrubs? No.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions

danny green was always noticeably worse than wayne ellington

yet he is pretty dominant as well

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Naw, Danny's better than Wayne. Wayne's horrible.

And Danny’s played 3 career d league games.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions

i see 17 from this past season

1 with austin and 16 with reno

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh, i don't see that either.

But Danny’s been as good as him in the NBA too so i don’t understand what you’re saying.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions

so if a player like danny green can play really well in the d league

why can’t wayne, who you say is horrible?

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Wayne could.

We just know he’s not an NBA player either.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions

well i guess what i'm getting at is what makes wayne any better than the list of players you mentioned earlier?

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions

I dunno, he probably shouldn't be in the NBA.

I mean he’s a good shooter though and those guys stay in the league as bench filler though.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions

I like giving the newbies shots.

Not really guys who failed in the NBA and are retreads. However, if someone’s completely fixed part of their game, for example a really athletic wing who couldn’t shoot for a lick, but now shoots 40% on 3 pointers (that used to be Reggie) you give them a chance again.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions

i agree with you

but that seems more like an offseason move, rather than a midseason move. what i was basically getting at is what would be the point of waiving players midseason in order to gamble on a newbie that is likely not any better than the player you just waived? i guess we were arguing different points.

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions

and there will always be the teams that don't like risk

and will opt to go with the player where they pretty much know what they’re getting rather than gambling on a newbie. for this reason, there will always be veteran scrubs floating around the league that are not as good as some of the d leaguers. as long as the warriors are not one of the those teams, i’m completely fine with it. just means there’s more talent to choose from when you need to call someone up

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't think the Warriors are like that.

We’ve shown our willingness to go to the d-league/undrafted field. We got CJ when we didn’t have injuries but needed a good player. Morrow wasn’t even a d-leaguer but we took a chance on him.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions

exactly

say other teams started dipping into the d-league and taking all the CJ/Morrow type players. what does that leave for the warriors? personally i think we’re better off with all these veteran scrubs on other teams.

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, if someones a vet, and not very good, just release them.

If you take a chance on 3 d-leaguers who you give decent PT, and give them 20 days each to prove themselves, you’ll probably find a decent player.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Some bigs like BJ Mullens and Cole Aldrich have been down extensively

We won’t know how much good it’s done them but they might have decent futures

by tafkasam on Jun 27, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions

I wasn't talking about people teams put down there.

I meant players who weren’t drafted/ late 2nd round who played in d league to try and make NBA.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions

True, but in our case we could use it this way

I saw lakers drafted like 4 guys in late 2nd round. Almost all have dleague futures, but since they control there affiliate, they could develop them at there own pace. Maybe one makes it. Even if that happens it’s worth it.

I see it as future of NBA, and glad we’re getting in on it early. I bet Jenkins and Tyler spend some time there this year. But if it’s warrior run, with our coaching staff running our system, teaching them what we need them to know it’ll help them a lot more.

by tafkasam on Jun 27, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Look at my comment on the bottom of this.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions

haha, nice

Same page.

I think it’ll be a future trend in NBA. College bball is slowly dying anyway.

by tafkasam on Jun 27, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions

i can see tyler spending time there

but unless we pick up another PG, or lin develops a jump shot, i don’t see why we would send jenkins there.

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Why buy it?

We’ve always been able to get plenty of D league players from the existing system so why distract the mission with another thing to worry about?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 27, 2011 8:04 PM PDT reply actions

it can help develop talent

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by Evanz on Jun 27, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions

And we can run our system and teach them specific things we want them to learn.

If you send them to a random d league team, they’ll be running their system.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions

it can help develop talent

D-league talent us to death?
I like the OscarMeyer idea better.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 27, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions

This was all Kirk Lacob's idea.

Give him the props.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 8:27 PM PDT reply actions

This was all Kirk Lacob's idea.

guess that explains it.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 27, 2011 8:38 PM PDT reply actions

eh. i think lacob dramatically overrated this purchase if true.

im not happy. im indifferent.

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by bimmercirem3 on Jun 27, 2011 8:39 PM PDT reply actions

How can you not be happy with this?

The only 3 teams that do this are OKC, SAS, and HOU, 3 of the best run organizations in the league.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Also the LAL I thought

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by Badly Browned on Jun 27, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions

No.

They don’t own. Just are affiliated.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, I guess my reading comprehension is messed up, but from what I am reading I am confused.

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The Warriors will be the third team to become direct affiliates of their D-League team this offseason following in the footsteps of the New Jersey Nets (Springfield Armor), New York Knicks (Erie BayHawks) and Los Angeles Lakers (who brought back the L.A. D-Fenders). The Oklahoma City Thunder (Tulsa 66ers), Dallas Mavericks (Texas Legends), Houston Rockets (Rio Grande Valley Vipers) and San Antonio Spurs (Austin Toros) also own either part or all of their D-League affiliate.

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The Warriors will be the fourth team to own an D-League squad. The San Antonio Spurs own the Austin Toros. The Los Angeles Lakers on the L.A. D-Fenders. The Oklahoma City Thunder own the Tulsa 66ers.

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by Badly Browned on Jun 27, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Hmm

I’m confused. I thought Lakers had an affiliation hybrid wise, but we actually bought the Wizards.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Lakers own their D-League team

Along with the Spurs, Thunder and now Warriors.
Dallas Mavericks GM is majority owner of the Texas Legends along with a Chinese businessman.
Houston, New York and New Jersey own the basketball operations of their D-League team, but local ownership still runs the business side.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 27, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions

How can you not be happy with this?

cause a team focused on d-leaguers has got big problems.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 27, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions

buying a d-league team =/= being focused on d-leaguers

by bigkino217 on Jun 27, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions

yup

this doesnt really do anything with our current roster and the gaping holes. it only protects our future investments in players which i am indifferent about. so im not happy or sad.

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by bimmercirem3 on Jun 27, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions

I think it should be mandatory for each NBA team to own a D-League team

NHL and MLB have the best prospect managing system in professional sports, tiered hierarchical levels that a prospect can climb or descend. NFL has the benefit of having large roster capacities at 53 each franchise. NBA has a max limit of 12 active plus those in the D-League or overseas. The NFL sees a 7 round draft, the MLB a 50 round draft, and the NHL anywhere from 7-10 rounds. The NBA only has 2. I hope the NBA expands the farm of their teams this CBA.

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by ejdacanay on Jun 27, 2011 9:02 PM PDT reply actions

i don't want teams to have to do it.

I think you should do it optionally, so the smart teams can reap the rewards.

But i do think we should make each team have their own “practice squad” for 4 to 5 players. This way you can have them ready to go if needed, and someone to help the team practice.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions

The practice squad suggestion is at minimum what I'd want

If it’s not mandatory, it usually means the richer and more well off teams will have better shots at the better prospects, similar to how the big money teams have an advantage in the MLB Free Agency period.

But yes, I’d love each team to have some sort of practice squad or bigger.

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by ejdacanay on Jun 27, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Hopefully that's in the new CBA.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 27, 2011 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions

The NBA only has 2. I hope the NBA expands the farm of their teams this CBA.

the problem with that is then the minor league players will be under contract to their own teams and we won’t be able to get the best ones on the open market. If they all go in a league wide pool we got better chance of signing a good one if we need it.
Baseball uses a lot more players per team than basketball so they need bigger farm systems, we just need the best of a small crop to stock our smaller teams.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 27, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions

This also allows you to buy a lot of late 2nd rounders, never sign them, but hold exclusive rights and let them develop.

OKC has 5 or 6 players on their d league team that they drafted but never signed. They also are the only team in the NBA that can sign them as they have exclusive draft rights. So if we didn’t sign Tyler (which we will) you could put him on the Wizards, let him develop, and when he’s ready give him a contract.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:07 PM PDT reply actions

OKC has 5 or 6 players on their d league team that they drafted but never signed.

Unless they’ve changed them the rules specify that draftees have to be offer a minimum contract by a certain date or they are free to sign elsewhere so OKC won’t be able to stash players for long enough to make it a significant factor.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 27, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions

How do they stash people in europe then?

It’s the same concept.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions

How do they stash people in europe then?

they don’t stash players in europe. If they draft a guy they have to offer them a contract. If the player rejects it then the team still has signing rights for something like 3 years but if the player accepts it he is part of the roster. Guys like rubio are not stashed, they just didn’t sign the offered contract cause they wanted to stay over there.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 27, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Same thing with the D-League

OKC has had Latavious Williams, Ryan Reid, DeVon Hardin and Robert Vaden play for their D-League squad the past two seasons. They’re not on the OKC roster, and have never been signed by the Thunder, but the Thunder still own their rights from drafting them.

Golden State doesn’t have those options as the only draft rights they hold are Mladen Sekularac’s, but like Governor said, they could do this with Jeremy Tyler if they wanted.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 27, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions

They’re not on the OKC roster, and have never been signed by the Thunder, but the Thunder still own their rights from drafting them.

So you are saying these guys turned down a minimum NBA contract to stay in the D league?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 27, 2011 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, yes.

It’s obviously not that simple, but the Thunder basically tell these guys to do just that since they don’t have room on their roster and therefore would cut these players in training camp.

This way, they learn OKCs system under OKCs coaches and can be signed when the Thunder decide they’re ready/need them due to injury. It happened to Robert Vaden toward the end of the season.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 28, 2011 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions

but the Thunder basically tell these guys to do just that since they don’t have room on their roster

If the team never actually offed a contract within the specified time these guys can sign with anyone who wants them. I don’t believe that a good player would turn down an NBA contract if it was actually offered, if these guys are doing that then they are too desperate to be any good to other teams.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 28, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions

Alright.

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by Scott Schroeder on Jun 28, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions

If the dubs were affiliated with the Reno Longhorns last season...

does that mean they were affiliated with the Bakersfield Jam all those seasons POB was there or have they always been affiliated with both? I just wish they purchased a NBDL team closer to home, like reno or bakersfield, so we can watch the home grown talent.

by MAZarate21 on Jun 27, 2011 9:50 PM PDT reply actions

it's likely we move dakota closer

by tafkasam on Jun 27, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions

It is the Bighorns not longhorns.

Dakota was up for sale. So most likely they will move the team.

by PSUkegreen on Jun 28, 2011 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions

yea..I just saw that after reading the article.

San Jose Wizards has a nice ring to it.

by MAZarate21 on Jun 27, 2011 10:09 PM PDT reply actions

I can't see keeping the Wizards name.

San Jose would be a good location or Vallejo.

by PSUkegreen on Jun 28, 2011 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions

I am thrilled. I am glad to see the new ownership making such positive steps to be a frontline NBA franchise. In a vacuum, none of these changes has been huge, but the combination of moves really has me optimistic about our future.

The franchise seems to have made significant upgrades throughout the front office. Mark Jackson may or may not be a lateral change, but most of us seem pretty optimistic about Malone’s presence, and the other new staff hires as well.

They’re one of the few teams running the STATS cameras, and now own a DLeague team where they can develop both players and coaches.

The additions to the roster seem to all be potentially solid acquisitions. When the team spent two million bucks to buy Jeremy Tyler’s rights, ownership showed even further commitment to improving.

I don’t know about you guys, but I’m pretty excited about our chances going forward. At the very least we have an owner who appears willing to spend money, which is an improvement. But I also see a franchise with it’s eyes on the future, and on the direction of the league as a whole.

I was skeptical of the new ownership. Bringing in Lee seems like a mistake. Dumping Nellie only to hand the team over to Smart bothered me immediately. Extending Riley’s term and hiring Jackson don’t seem like great moves either. Not horrible, but not exciting. But I have to admit, I like just about everything else.

Now, if we could just convince them to drop our three biggest contracts and rebuild the roster…

by Uwe Blog on Jun 27, 2011 10:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs

They’re one of the few teams running the STATS cameras, and now own a DLeague team where they can develop both players and coaches.

This was all done by Kirk Lacob. Just saying, people want to say he sucks and only got the job because of his dad, but he’s actually been a very big positive to the team.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions

The problem with this however is

Riley and Myers aren’t into this like he is, so idunno. I think Riley should be gone.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions

I hear you, but I’ve still seen more positive steps towards being a truly strong franchise than I’ve ever seen in one offseason. Like I said, each move in a vacuum seems insignificant. All together though? The glass is half full, instead of half empty. It’s a nice feeling.

by Uwe Blog on Jun 27, 2011 10:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

I agree.

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jun 27, 2011 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions

only got the job because of his dad

The correct term is nepotism. And your argument that Kirk is succeeding despite his fathers nepotism is heart warming. But how do you know the previous guy did not want all these things but just could not get them because he was not the owners son? Sadly, the specter of nepotism will forever taint the accomplishments of Kirk Lacob.

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by KillaContract on Jun 28, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions

But how do you know the previous guy did not want all these things but just could not get them because he was not the owners son?

I bet even GovStefCurry could figure out how to install a stat camera and buy up a backwoods ball team?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 28, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions

If nepotism is what helps the Warriors improve, I’m all for it.

by Uwe Blog on Jun 29, 2011 8:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions

If nepotism is what helps the Warriors improve

it usually does the opposite. Inbreeding in not good, diversity is better.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 29, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions

Murder might also help improve the Warriors considering some of the horrible guaranteed contracts, but one should draw a morality line somewhere.

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by KillaContract on Jun 29, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions

but one should draw a morality line somewhere.

I think we passed that line with Dre’s freethrow form?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 29, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree with everything you said

Seeing it all in one place really shows what they’ve done. They have made a lot of really interesting moves so far.

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by Reverend_Randy on Jun 27, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh, and welcome aboard, Nate Parham. What’s your story? I remember that you were one of our picks in the blog lottery, but I’m not exactly sure just what that is. Are you a Warriors fan?

by Uwe Blog on Jun 27, 2011 10:28 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

Yes - I am most definitely a Warriors fan :)

Bay Area, born and raised…been cursed with following this team since about the Run TMC days.

I should probably share more about my “Warriors story” at some point… but I figure we have plenty of lockout months during which I can do that.

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by Nate Parham on Jun 28, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions

I’ve never noticed you here before the blogger draft. What is that?

by Uwe Blog on Jun 29, 2011 8:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions

Blogger draft?

That was just a clever way for Atma to introduce two new writers to the GSoM staff. Us bloggers don’t actually get drafted. :)

by olympicmike on Jun 29, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions

wait a second...

then why did I have to sign a buyout clause?

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by Evanz on Jun 29, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions

What is that?

new cannon fodder

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jun 29, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions

wait so who bought this?

was it the warriors or lacob & co.? i know money is fungible but whats the direct line to this transaction? lets just say this doesn’t work out are the fans in some way gonna be responsible for this in terms of inferior product and/or ticket-price/concession increases?

by killacross on Jun 28, 2011 3:34 AM PDT reply actions

That's a good question

It’s technically, “GSW, LLC”….

http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/gsw_sports_llc.html

…of which Lacob/Guber are co-chairs.

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by Nate Parham on Jun 28, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions

Throughout the last several years, the D League has proven to be an important building piece

in terms of adding potential rotation players to an NBA roster. You guys certainly got a great find in Reggie Williams (the VMI guy), and though Jeremy Lin hasn’t had much PT for the hometown team, he has done pretty well for Reno while there on assignment and if he were able to crack the rotation like JJ Redick of the Magic did after two or three years, I think he will be more than able to hold his own.

Wizards (NBA team) fans aren’t pleased about the loss of a D League team, not when it’s halfway across the country from Washington, and we have picked up a number of D Leaguers over the past couple years since the initial blow up of February 2010. However, for us, we want a D League team ideally close to home that the fans can follow.

Another idea we popped up in Bullets Forever was that in order to generate more interest in the D League, considering that all NBA teams have a summer league team (many of these rosters are made of D League players, it may be a good idea to hold the D League during the summer months. There is an argument for some NBA teams that it can interfere with the WNBA season, but I don’t see enough fan overlap between the two leagues to a point where a D League team could negatively affect WNBA attendance.

by thewiz06 on Jun 29, 2011 10:57 PM PDT reply actions