Golden Center?
As any Warrior fan would know our main weakness is a good center. There are 4 really good centers that are free agents this summer that would really make a difference in Golden State. Their names are Tyson Chandler, Nene, Marc Gasol and DeAndre Jordan. My question is say we are in position to grab any of these 4 guys which center would you choose? Which center would complement Lee the most as well as our team overall going forward?
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Tyson Chandler would compliment him best but after what he’s done for Dallas I don’t see him leaving them & DeAndre Jordan but he’s still too raw to invest in as a frontcourt savior.
I’ve heard Tyson Chandler is very vocal, so it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he was the most complimentary of the group.
by Missing Barry on Jun 8, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly..
I think playing on nearly every type of team in the league (lottery bound teams, playoff contenders, etc) he is mature beyond his years and alot of players would respect him as he’s played with possibly one of the best point guards of all-time in Jason Kidd as well the best one in today’s game in Chris Paul.
If we trade
Monta for Iggy maybe he would come here to be with his USA buddies Curry and Iguodala. Wishful thinking but never underestimate friendship in this league lol
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Thats what
i mean! lol
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pretty sure MB was mocking the (mis)spelling of complementary in the original post
just sayin’.
Don’t think we’ll get any of them, unless we trade for one. don’t see any of those teams wanting Monta for their big
by soda pop SMASH on Jun 8, 2011 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ideally, I’d like Marc Gasol. I think realistically, though, We’re gonna end up with NeNe or DeAndre Jordan. I do, however, believe we will get one of these guys. I can’t realistically see Lacob standing pat.
'Like' my band. I mean, it'd be awesome if you did that.
realistically
i can’t see us getting any of those guys. we dont have the cap space.
I can see us getting DeAndre Jordan...
The Clippers’ owner is a very stingy guy and I can see him letting Jordan walk just to make sure he has enough saved up TWO years from now to offer Blake his max contract. Is that when Mo Williams comes off the books as well?!
What does cap space matter to an owner who has said time and time again that he don’t give a fizzy about paying luxury?
'Like' my band. I mean, it'd be awesome if you did that.
you can't sign a big contract if you're over the cap
What does cap space matter to an owner who has said time and time again that he don’t give a fizzy about paying luxury?
you can’t sign a big contract if you’re over the cap. do you not understand what the cap is?
You say that like it's a bad thing: Nene >> Gasol. IMO.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Jordan...in our system would be a beast!
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Jun 8, 2011 12:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
not at all
low bb iq. makes waaaaaay to many mistakes. major butterfingers.
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
He's not gonna be worth the money we sign him for...
I think his ceiling as a player is Tyson Chandler and I can see our FO offering him a Corey Maggette type of deal…
i cant.....
magette was a high volume scorer….. jordan puts in 7 a game tops
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
Not what he said.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Agreed...
Still young, but very athletic. Only needs to alter shots, rebound aggresively and finish strong. Does not need to score a lot. I would over pay for him. FOr the right price, contract terms and with medical approval I would bring in Oden. But thats just me.
Chandler
Great defense, knows how to roll to the rim, brings some toughness. Sounds like a pretty good fit to me.
Yea I like
Chandler too. Think he would fit perfect with us. I kinda want Marc Gasol alot too though. I like both Gasol and Chandler over Nene though
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And he can be Steph's new muscle!
He was ready to fight Bynum after he pulled that dirty move on Barea.
Nene’s by far the best player of the group. Marc and Jordan are RFA, so they’re out, the Mavs love to spend money to try to win, so Chandler is out. Personally, I’m not optimistic about us getting Nene….so Dalembert it is! /pukes
Nene is the better player
but I think Chandler fits better. I hope we can atleast get 1 of these 4 guys though
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I’d much prefer Nene. Fits much, much, much better offensively, and I don’t think he’s much worse a fit than Chandler defensively, either. For instance, one of our biggest weaknesses is defensive rebounding. By at least one measure (rebounding adjusted +/-), Nene has the biggest positive impact on his teams defensive rebounding in the entire NBA.
by Missing Barry on Jun 8, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Nene has the biggest positive impact on his teams defensive rebounding in the entire NBA.
I did not know this. Interesting, as one of his biggest criticisms is his rebounding. I’m still not convinced that Nene would have a better impact on defense over Chandler. I feel with Nene we would be overloading the talent on the offense too much. But I guess part of the “culture change” is changing how the Warriors score. Still, I think defense and bolstering the talent for defense is more important.
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by Doctor Kajita on Jun 8, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it would be different.
When was the last time the Warriors had a decent half court offense? I can’t even remember. Adding a guy like Nene and having the ball in Curry’s hands more gives us a great opportunity in the half court to be effective. We’d actually have a guy to throw it in the middle to. That in itself should open up opportunities for our wings. Last year we found (yet again) why our perimeter dominated offense doesn’t work. We need to get better quality looks than we have the past few years.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
If anything he transforms our gimmick offense into an NBA caliber one.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
And if we do trade Ellis we could use another offensive player.
Personally i love the inside outside game. As i’ve been watching the finals, at the end of the game, when it slows down, you see that Dallas is better at executing vs Miami having to settle for a outside jumper from James or Wade. If Maimi was smart, they get the ball into Bosh on the block or high post and play off him.
I think taking the best player is what fits better.
Sure, Chandler has better defense, but i’d still rather have the overall better player. That would be Nene. The problem, unfortunately is that we have to guess how these guys complement Lee.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
I'm not sure Nene is better than Chandler
Better offensively (though tyson is no slouch). Chandler is a superior defender/rebounder
but can we take a step back and admire DWade’s block of Chandler last night. DWade, freak of a SG. Ex. A to why length and strength matter
I wouldn’t call Chandler a slouch, exactly, but I wouldn’t call offense his strength, either. He’s an efficient finisher, and that’s all. Nene is among the best offensive C’s in basketball, and that’s while being underutilized. I’m actually not so sure Chandler has much of an advantage on Nene in the defensive/rebounding department, either, to be honest. I really think Nene is a significantly better player than Chandler – that it isn’t all that close.
by Missing Barry on Jun 8, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess you have to figure intangibles in
Listen to way Dirk and Carlisle talk about Tyson Chandler. They call him ‘their Garnett’ referencing way Garnett changed defensive culture in Boston and anchored the team.
That’s some lofty praise
i agree
chandlers impact is bigger than the box score. He brings defensive leadership, pride and toughness to his team. He’s also a very good FT shooter, very athletic and doesn’t try to play outside of HIS game. That being said i’ll take anyone better than Beidrins.
If we could land any of these guys, i’d be thrilled.
Sure, tyson can score efficiently. But do you see him ever scoring in volume?
I think that’s an important aspect to keep in mind.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
But, yeah...what you guys said about his D.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Better offensively (though tyson is no slouch). Chandler is a superior defender/rebounder
Oh, apparently now you care about defense?
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"It’s not all about stats…you’ve probably never played basketball in your life. There are things called intangibles. He is what you call a winner. Led his team to a national title. We need people who know how to win. He obviously has to be doing something right." (dhod)
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I want two way players
13.1 points per 36 on .697 TS% and 102 D rating is two way enough for me
well, you'll have to wait for my free agent post to see my definitive answer
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"It’s not all about stats…you’ve probably never played basketball in your life. There are things called intangibles. He is what you call a winner. Led his team to a national title. We need people who know how to win. He obviously has to be doing something right." (dhod)
"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)
I'd be thrilled with either Chandler or Nene.
Dallas has $61m on the books for next year already, without Chandler – and with only nine players under contract.
So depending on the new CBA, they may have a hard time matching. (We also have nine players under contract, but only $49m committed).
They also have Haywood, who’s got a lot of money coming for a long time.
Denver, on the other hand, is way under the cap … so it may be easier for them to keep Nene than for Dallas to keep Chandler.
West better be in Nene's ear right now then!
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
wow...not much love for Jordan
Young big man with plenty of room to grow and folks are treating him like the second coming of Dampier. SMH.
"That was very funny about the old man basketball skills. One is lucky to escape injury when playing against those crafty, crusty sumbitches. And it’s just demoralizing when they demonstrate yet again how to use the backboard from range." - Charlie Custer
by SmittytheCutman on Jun 8, 2011 1:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
most of his growth has come alongside blake
I heard his work ethic has rubbed off on jordan. But who’s to say it will last if he’s moved?
With guys on the squad like David Lee, Udoh, and Dorell Wright...
He should be fine…keeping him away from Biedrins is all we need to do.
I dunno about that. I haven't heard that Jordan is a human eraser.
Seems to me like he’s still young and figuring out how to play effective defense.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
In ranking order:
1. T Chandler (best fit) 2. D Jordan 3. Nene 4. M Gasol
But honestly I don’t think none of these guys are realistic tho. We just don’t have the $$, unless we pull off some kinda sign n trade. But who will these team take for a sign and trade ?? Biedrins – No ; D Lee – No (and it doesn’t make sense for us either) ; C Bell – No. The only one sign n trade chips we have are Curry, Monta, D Wright and Ekpe.
Curry isn’t going anywhere for any of these 4 guys… I would prob trade Monta for Chandler but not any of the other 3…. D Wright and Ekpe, first they don’t make enough for a sign n trade, second they’re really solid rotation players, would it be worth it to give them up for someone we should be adding to our team not bringing in to replace.
by Babyface Assassin on Jun 8, 2011 1:45 PM PDT reply actions
Ranking order:
Nene
Gasol
Jordan
Chandler
My reasoning is that Nene is the best of the four, followed by Gasol. As far as “fitting” goes, I think the emphasis should be on the team building in an entirely different direction, where we look to the post for scoring. Nene and Gasol bring that dynamic.
I think Chandler is better than Jordan, but Jordan’s much younger and Chandler’s injury history. Also, Chandler’s two most memorable seasons have been with Kidd and CP3. With lesser point guards, he’s underwhelmed.
Regardless of my assessments, we don’t have the cap space for any of them except maybe Chandler. I say maybe Chandler because he’s looking for his last decent multiyear contract, and we may get him to sign a 5-6 year deal at 8 million.
by Uwe Blog on Jun 8, 2011 2:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
i like that order with the exception of flippin Jordan and Chandler. jordan is tyson chandler less the good FT%.
If we are going to trade Monta for a defensive player like Iggy, i think Nene is the best fit.
Curry
Iggy / Thompson
Wright
Lee / Udoh
Nene
Not sure how we afford Nene but that’s a solid team. Post scoring, outside shooting and defense.
I said Tyson’s the better player. I agree. But he’s older and has some injury history, so I’d rather have Jordan for the long term.
by Uwe Blog on Jun 8, 2011 3:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Why Nene??
I agree that we could use his low post scoring abilities, that would be great but on the other end of the floor, he’s probably got the worst defense out of the 4 Centers mentioned.
Nene is really a PF turned into a C.
Offense is not the Warriors concern, we can score points. We need a defensive presence down low to make up for the undersized backcourt. The team defense would be much better if Chandler was there to help Steph and Monta.
Chandler is the best defensive C out of the 4 AND he can run, followed by Jordan, then Gasol then Nene
by Babyface Assassin on Jun 8, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
he’s probably got the worst defense out of the 4 Centers mentioned.
you might think that, as I did once
but if you look at the statistics, they tell a different story
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"It’s not all about stats…you’ve probably never played basketball in your life. There are things called intangibles. He is what you call a winner. Led his team to a national title. We need people who know how to win. He obviously has to be doing something right." (dhod)
"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)
I say we target at least 2 of them
Our goal is to be a regular title contender. To do that, we have to thing BIG
by WestCoastWarrior on Jun 8, 2011 2:12 PM PDT reply actions
I like it.
Nene and Chandler. NOW.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Omg if we had
Curry
Monta
Wright
Nene
Chandler
I’d be sooooo down for that
I would love to get tyson chandler.
The only way i see us getting tyson would be if they had lost the finals. other than that i think its fair game.
the second guy i would get is definitely marc gasol. marc with a good pg like steph would be sick. i remember watching spain when marc and rubio were together…marc really responded well to good passing. marc is also tough and would grind players (not sexually).
nene would be my third but he is close with deandre because they are both one sided to me. nene with the aggressive offense and deandre with aggressive defense (but i can see his low iq become a problem). but iono i pick nene as third even though hes older and mainly offense due to the maturity. deandre has potential and i wouldnt be mad if we got him either.
stephen curry
My biggest problem with Marc is that he hasn't always had a great work ethic.
He was 50 lbs overweight for a lot of years. He also seems to really like playing in Memphis – he spend some of his youth there, for example, so I think he’s going to be hard to pry loose unless they decide they can’t afford him.
to me
i think he had a bad work ethic was because he played in memphis for like 2 years without any real success. i would even go as far as saying he was unhappy in memphis before tony allen came along.
stephen curry
My vote is for Chandler
Him and Lee could hold an on-court symposium with the amount of talking they do.
@DoctorKajita
I literally HATE Tyson Chandler. Between him and Mark Jackson, i’d be barfing.
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hes a beast
alley-oops all day, block shot all day, booyah
by Monta THE Boss on Jun 8, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Five if you count Greg Oden. Definitely the biggest risk of the bunch, but also the biggest upside…
There will be no extra point!
we're not getting any of these guys
(just keeping it real)
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"It’s not all about stats…you’ve probably never played basketball in your life. There are things called intangibles. He is what you call a winner. Led his team to a national title. We need people who know how to win. He obviously has to be doing something right." (dhod)
"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)
Go for Oden
This is the perfect offseason to go after a high potential guy with injury issues. The season will most likely be delayed, which would give him even more time to get back in shape. I’d love for a chance at Howard, but it may be even riskier to wait and see on that front rather than sign a guy with a lot of upside for cheaper even if he is injury prone.
BTW
Nene and Chandler would be the two I’d want out of the four you mentioned, but I don’t see them leaving their teams.
i believe they nene, chandler and gasol will stay with their teams
but Jordan might walk. If he does, DO NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, I repeat, DO NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! overpay him. He is a RAW big. Think of Anthony Randolph IQ.
wait on any trades
no need for any trades if we can nab Josh Howard and Earl Clark…defensive minded 3s and 4s…and sh*t ANY center….then we can keep monta and…just trade vlad and biedrins with some dumb ass like Isiah Thomas or something…lol…
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