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just got back...we didn't take Kawhi Leonard?

WTF happened?

ROTD (Rant of the Day)

Those were my thoughts on draft night after getting back into town from a trip.

I feel like that's where we really jumped the shark. It's really been mostly downhill ever since. Hiring Jackson instead of someone like Casey. Screwing the amnesty thing by wasting it on Bell. Mis-handling Curry's ankle problems. Now people seem to think Kwame going down is a big deal. In a way, it's the best thing that could have happened to this franchise. This team needs to tank, and apparently the only way that will happen is if it's forced upon them by injuries. Riley has no idea what he's doing and I've pretty much lost faith in Lacob at this point, too.

And seriously? Klay Thompson? Kawhi Leonard would probably be the best player on our team right now, and yes, I'm including Monta. Well, that's why San Antonio keeps winning, I guess. They know what they are doing.

Please tell me how I'm wrong and how this ship is going to get righted again. I can't see it.

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I agree sadly.

Instead of all stupid moves, now we have stupid moves mixed with smart moves. It’s not enough. The NBA is an unfair game and we do nothing to give ourselves a shot.

WHAT!??!?!?!?!?!?!

by true torture on Jan 12, 2012 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

This reminds me of...

The Cohen Circus.

Is it a great time out? Big Things?

Bleeeeh.

by Critical Roach on Jan 12, 2012 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

I agree, this team should keep losing. Tank,

I’ve been for the tank machine/Anthony Davis movement for awhile now.

Also, I’ve noticed that in a lot of the threads there is a picture of Anthony Davis lurking somewhere. Well, here you go. Here’s the Davis picture of the day:

by DubsFan408 on Jan 12, 2012 3:10 PM PST reply actions  

AD is like Marcus Camby in the middle. If you mean at PF to make David Lee available for trade, then I am for it.

I don’t think AD can win a championship playing C. I rather take Andre Drummond for the C or PF spot at #1. More offense.

"Go ahead. Make my day."

by callahan on Jan 18, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Lookin like Bela lugosi with the eyebrow haha

by lilboots on Jan 20, 2012 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

This is starting to remind me of the Dodgers sale to McCourt

Somehow a prospective owner woos the shit out of everyone and the team ends up being sold to someone who has no business owning a pro sports franchise. That wouldnt be a problem for me usually, this is a free economy/capitalism/all that, but this market deserves a championship caliber team. We support the team at a level that is insane even when they suck, imagine what the bay area would be like with a perennial winner!

The new owners get an F minus so far. I have already stated that I am not going to any games this year, I hope other will follow suit if we continue down this path

by warriorsvictim on Jan 12, 2012 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

Give me a break

Lacob and Guber are not even close to being as bad as McCourt. McCourt bought the Dodger on credit and sucked the team’s finances dry. The Warriors owners have made mistakes but they are true basketball fans and seem to have good intentions. They got rid of most of the dead weight in the front office and made some nice hires as replacements. Comparing them to the McCourts is utterly ridiculous. They can’t force stars to come here if they don’t want to be here. It’s not going to happen overnight.

by Pippen on Jan 12, 2012 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, she was holding the team back.

It’s the playoffs every year from here on out. I actually meant Rowell and Don Nelson. I realize Nelson was technically just a coach, but he obviously had a lot of influence in the FO. They haven’t gotten rid of Riley yet, but he has been marginalized and his days as GM seem to be numbered.

by Pippen on Jan 13, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Still talking about Casey?

Even though we have Mike Malone? And the Raptors are only 4-7?

by David Leezy on Jan 12, 2012 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

well, Casey has the team playing better

He’s even got Andrea Bargnani attacking the basket, but you can’t expect too much out of a roster like that

by lameallenmark on Jan 12, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

4-7 is better than 3-6

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

By ONE game...it's not a big deal

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 12, 2012 4:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

just sayin

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

As am i

We tend to make these caveats and then promptly ignore them…it’s totally relevant – you’re talking about when win as if it’s some sort of meaningful statement. It’s not

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 12, 2012 6:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

lol i wasnt really being serious

it just seems dumb to insist that casey isn’t better because hes only 4-7 when the warriors are only 3-6

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

the fact that we're even close to the Raptors record is despicable

even though it is early

While you sit here typing some witty response, Bruce Bochy, world champion, is smiling from above.

by Sensei Ben on Jan 12, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

despicable?

exactly how good do you think the Dubs are anyways?

let’s be honest, Dubs are in the conversation for one of the worst teams in the NBA. I think we are definitely bottom 10

(but I love the Dubs just the same)

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 13, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not think this team is good at all

but I do think they have 10 times the talent of the Raptors.

While you sit here typing some witty response, Bruce Bochy, world champion, is smiling from above.

by Sensei Ben on Jan 13, 2012 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

well, I know you are kinda joking, but 10 times? really?

the Craptors have some talent (just not a lot of it)

just off the top of my head, I wouldn’t mind taking a look at derozan, barbosa, amir johnson, kleiza

I mean, it’s not TOTAL crap, just mostly.

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 17, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

ridiculously weak schedule. We’d be 7-4 with that schedule.

by Lacob's Ladder on Jan 12, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

the winning % is greater

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with that. Leonard is looking good, but I don’t really have any regrets about hiring Jackson, especially when paired with Malone.

by Pippen on Jan 12, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude, Riley said he didn’t even consider Kawhi Leonard. Shows how much you know!!!

Leonard getting his first NBA start tonight, btw. Should be interesting to watch.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 12, 2012 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

that was last night

he played 38 minutes, 11 pts (5/12), 8 rebounds, 2 blks, 1 TOV, and awesome defense. To wit:

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/01/12/kawhis-defense-already-has-pop-raving/

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoops, my bad. Hence this diary, duh.

Jae often points out that beastly rebounding is one young player skill you can almost always hang your hat on. Kawhi and Kenneth Faried seem like the latest examples of this. Have you checked out Faried’s SSS per 36es?

13.3 pts
15.2 reb
9.5 blocks

Is Faried also on your list of guys we should have taken over Klay?

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 12, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, triple double with blocks!

Has that ever been done?

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 12, 2012 4:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

43 times.
Hakeem alone did it ten times.

A quadruple-double has only happened four times: once each by Hakeem, David Robinson, Alvin Robertson (10 steals), and Big Nate Thurmond (22 pts, 14 boards, 13 assists, 12 blocks on 2/18/74).

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 12, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate the Great doesn’t just seem awesome. He is awesome…. wait no, he personifies it.

by WYK on Jan 12, 2012 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

High praise for Nate Robinson

While you sit here typing some witty response, Bruce Bochy, world champion, is smiling from above.

by Sensei Ben on Jan 12, 2012 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks Sleepy...ok folks, have a guess

It’s been a while…two decades since we’ve seen one

Who’s the next quadruple-double?
Dwight
LeBron
Kwame Brown ?

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 12, 2012 7:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

A point guard

Rondo with the best chance, but I think Westbrook was somewhat close to one last year if I remember correctly.

In today’s game, you’re as likely to see 10 steals as you are 10 blocks, and LeBron doesn’t block very many shots, and Dwight can’t pass.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

key word

occasional

no way he ever gets to 10 in a game

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Jan 13, 2012 12:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I would have taken Markieff or Kawhi, probably not Faried

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Anthony Randolph FTW!

Man, I don’t care nothing about no Mike Montgomery.

by bloodsweatndonuts on Jan 13, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

it's a fanshot

hence the blue outline

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

We have the option of front-paging a post or not. But since the higher-ups tend to encourage us to keep the front page rolling, there’s rarely any reason not to. I can’t remember the last time I saw a post by a mod in the sidebar.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 12, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

argh

we won’t make the playoffs with all these injuries. Well actually, it would be a stretch to say we would make the playoffs without injuries… I agree, of all the drafts where a top 7 pick could mean something, this is it. I just hope that possible draftees don’t stay in school for another year…

by jpees on Jan 12, 2012 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

This looks like the kind of post that should be on the fan post side of things...

Definitely not on the main thread side.

To date, Casey hasn’t done squat with his own team where as Jackson and his coaching staff has gotten the Warriors to play much better defensively than in years past.

“Wasting the amnesty on Bell” was not that much of a waste. It cleared up enough for us to make a serious run at DeAndre Jordan (who is definitely worth the contract he received based on the D he’s playing down for the Clippers). Who were you planning to use it on? Biedrins and his $27 mil contract? Monta and his $33 mil contract? Lee and his ridiculous contract? If you were an owner, and you had to pay someone $27 million anyways (or more in the cases of the other two), would you rather have them play for it or just hand them the money for free?

Saying Kawhi would be the best player on this team is nothing short of crazy, brash, or potentially under the influence of something strong.

Kwame was playing well (as hard as it was for me to say that). He was anchoring the D in a poor man’s Chandler’s type of role. You can’t discredit the effect he’s made by being that big body that clogs up the lane.

And I’m tired of tanking. I’m ready to see this team win! Fu** the fairweather fans!

by Mr. Monday Night on Jan 12, 2012 3:57 PM PST reply actions  

again...it's a fanshot

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

And I’m tired of tanking. I’m ready to see this team win! Fu** the fairweather fans!

when have the warriors ever tanked?

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

serious. They are a limbo team. Not quite at the step of being able to be seriously considered for the playoffs, yet not bad enough for tanking to really be much of a possibility. I’m trying to hold off much judgement until we see the entire team on court for a real stretch. (assuming that can happen).

by dannyschmanny on Jan 12, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

This looks like the kind of post that should be on the fan post side of things…

Maybe we should let the mods decide. Wait…I’ll got get one…
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ok, here I am. Um, it’s cool.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

And I’m tired of tanking.

Did I miss the part where we tanked?

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

how can you be tired of something that has never happened

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh

2009-2010, 2008-2009 they combined for less than 60 wins. That’s a “tanked” season.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

and those resulted in getting Curry and Udoh

we need more of that (probably much more), not less

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

for how many years?

And Udoh looks like a journeyman backup C/PF. Will always be a valuable piece off the bench for a contender, but nothing more.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

how many years should we go on like this?

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

No I agree

neither is a desirable direction…

…so I guess you are saying the necessary step is to A) tank so we can stockpile high picks in order to gain an adequate number of quality/star players (reasonable ETA: 3-5 years); and B) let Riley go since he has accomplished absolutely nothing, in terms of roster quality and W-L.

That would make more sense.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

again, you managed to re-write what I have said many times

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you watch Warriors basketball?

We do the opposite of tanking… we suck early in the season, then go on a late run for no good reason and kill our draft pick.

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 12, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

1997-2002 they never finished with more than 21 win and it did absolutely nothing for then. In 2009-10 they had a horrible team filled with D-league call-ups. They barely had enough guys to suit up for some games. But, somehow that awful team managed to win 9 of the last 18 games. Instead of ending up with the 3rd worst record they ended up with the fifth worst record and the sixth pick. Tanking has never worked for the Warriors because they always find a way to win meaningless games or get jumped over in the draft lottery.

It’s not like the teams with the absolutely worst record typically end up with the top pick. In the last 10 years the team with the worst record has only won the lottery twice. The team with the second worst has won it twice as well. The rest of the time it has been the fifth, sixth, or ninth worst team winning the top pick.

Even if the Warriors do manage a top 5 pick, how often are there absolute super star game changer available? And even if there are, there is no assurance the Warriors management will be able to identify him. Supposedly Mayo and Beasley were two of the big prizes from the 2008 draft. There have been numerous years where the cream of the crop in the draft is pretty damn ordinary. Tanking works if there is a LeBron or Tim Duncan available and you are lucky enough to move up in the lottery to grab them, but usually that is not the case.

by Pippen on Jan 12, 2012 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

If they do tank this year, this is still a VERY good chance they finish out of the top 7 and forfeit their pick to Utah. So we get the pleasure of watching the team tank and don’t even have a pick to show for it. That sounds great, where do we sign up?

by Pippen on Jan 12, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Man I was so sure we was going to get either cousins or monroe for that draft.

by GSWeri on Jan 15, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

2008-09, 4 wins in the last 8 games dropped us from 5th worst team to 7th worst team.
2009-10, 7 wins in last 12 games dropped us from outright 3rd worst team to tied for 5th worst team

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I snatched him up in my FBB league!

He’s beasting for the Spurs right now. And it says alot that he’s starting right now because Coach Popovich usually doesn’t start ANY rooks.
Another front office draft day blunder for the Dubs, it looks like. Let’s see if Klay can redeem himself. he has 50+ games to show n prove.

We Believe!!!

by crossphaded on Jan 12, 2012 4:08 PM PST reply actions  

what would drafting differently

done for this team right now? I don’t get the agonizing look back at why we didn’t draft Leonard.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

I guess you don't study history

so you’re doomed to repeat yourself

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't get that saying in this context

What difference does having Leonard make for the team right now? And it’s pretty early to be annointing Leonard or giving up on Thompson.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

every one was on the jennings band wagon on his rookie year, but then curry started killing and now the warriors wouldnt trade curry for jennings unless they offered bogut with him.

by GSWeri on Jan 15, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

the fatal flaw might be not

acknowledging this isn’t a playoff team or the need to rebuild the roster, not add fillers.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Greg Monroe and Kawhi Leonard

would have solidified our C and SF positions

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 12, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Leonard a SF?

What happened to the infatuation with Wright? SF problems?

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Kawhi is already better than Wright

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

and though you may be right about Wright/Leonard

(though its debatable and clearly premature to say so) you think Leonard would be the best plaayer on the Warriors, so I don’t know how much merit that statement deserves.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

We were saying last year that Wright was at best a 6th man. He’s a spot up shooter who does almost nothing else offensively. His defense is okay. That is a 6th man.
Kawhi provides a lot of athleticism and defense at the SF position, which is what we really needed in a team without a perimeter defender.

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 12, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

3 assists a game isn't bad for a small forward

Of players listed as SFs for Yahoo, it’s second behind Paul Pierce. I get that doesn’t include LeBron James (listed as a F, not specifically SF), but he passes as well or better than most of the small forwards in the league.

He’s a spot up shooter who does almost nothing else offensively.

So that’s not necessarily true. And at times last year, he showed a good ability to use his pump-fake the right way, either getting to the line or opening up a better mid-range shot.

I’m not sure where he really fits on a contender. Most likely off the bench, but no way do you start Kawhi over him ALREADY, even if we had him. Wright was a solid starting wing last year. Better than a lot of guys actually.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

this ship isn't getting righted

because the roster is severely flawed…not because the Warriors didn’t draft K Leonard or hired Mark Jackson (even if both were mistakes, which the latter surely was)…the roster is seriously flawed because the Warriors are both unwilling to gut the roster and rebuild and unable to acquire a “superstar” to avoid the rebuild. The new ownership doesn’t want to go through a rebuild, that’s clear. And that might be the problem. It’s too big a hit for him to stomach it seems.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 4:28 PM PST reply actions  

kawhi would have been a good start

same with paul george last year

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't say it's because of just not drafting Leonard

it’s a symptom, not the disease

everything else you said I’ve said many, many times before

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

you think it's perfectly clear

10 games into the season that Leonard was the better choice and will be undoubtedly and indisputably the better player after 10 games than Thompson?

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

it was clear at draft day, too

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

it was clear well before draft day

it’s the reason we all assumed he’d be long gone by the time we picked

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

The question is, was Klay a "good fit"?

The answer to that is no. The scouting report on Klay was that he was a shooter who didn’t play much defense in college. Is that a player we needed? Kawhi Leonard was an athletic defender and rebounder who could sometimes score. We didn’t need another shooter – we needed a defender.

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 12, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

McGuire?

I’m talking about the player we needed to draft. Kawhi was an athletic defender with upside. He also filled a need, while Klay did not.

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 12, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

drafting Leonard and its affects on the team

could not have prevented this complaint from being written.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

How?

If we had drafted Kawhi, this complaint would NOT have been written.

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 12, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

But we would have solidified another position

and then we wouldn’t be complaining about the drafting like we are now.

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 12, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

was SF a problem?

I know its not solidified, but you get where I’m going? People are anointing this guy after 10 games @20 min per game. The rough start has had its effects on fans.

The Warriors haven’t really drafted well for years now, through all the bad coaching, through all the GMs, through the Nelly years …bright spots here and there but for the most part they’ve missed the good ones.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not anointing him

He’s basically being what the scouts predicted him to be – an athletic defender who can rebound and make a couple shots. I’m talking about need – and we needed an athletic defender who could guard the perimeter, not another shooter.

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross

by doubleteapot on Jan 12, 2012 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

was SF a problem?

EVERY POSITION IS A PROBLEM ON THIS TEAM

how do you not see that? Even Curry’s future is in jeopardy at this point.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s no anti-Lakers tirade in the post so it can’t be him.

by WYK on Jan 12, 2012 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

haha

Nice to see I wasn’t the only one thinking that.

by ender2148 on Jan 12, 2012 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

hey...

who knows if Leonard would be playing like he is now if he is wearing a warriors uniform

by GoDubs! on Jan 12, 2012 4:44 PM PST reply actions  

Probably injured… its the initiation of being a dub.

by adoboguy on Jan 12, 2012 5:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

no I have a 5 year deal worth $100M

my contract is unmovable

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

$100M in Monopoly money, unfortunately. =P

by WYK on Jan 12, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

still unmovable

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

my contract is unmovable

Who do you think you are, David Lee!?!?

by DubsFan408 on Jan 12, 2012 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

jesus…does Riley negotiate GSOM’s contracts too?

by Lacob's Ladder on Jan 12, 2012 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Why the sudden suicide post, Evanz?

What straw that suddenly broke your back? Was it the Kwame news? Let’s talk about it, big guy…

by Lacob's Ladder on Jan 12, 2012 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

stop being a homer

they won’t change unless the fanbase pushes them to change

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

How am I being a homer?

I think were’ going to finish the season under .500

I just said I’m not sure if we made the right picks

I think we’re sorta headed into nowhere if we can’t get it together on the court this year

All I’m doing is supporting the players and coaches we DO have. You’re not doing that.

I’m not going to throw away all hope because Kawhi is/looks like/might be a better player than Klay and Casey is/looks like/might be a better coach than Jackson. It’s been 10 games! Relax. Maybe they won’t succeed. It’s a possibility for everyone who ever gets to coach or play in the league, but until they fail, I definitely will not write off the possibility of their success.

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by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Word

No relation to Matt Cain...

by Caine Black Knife on Jan 12, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

And, the Klay/Kawhi thing I at least understand little bit based on what we’ve seen so far (though, I’m still not convinced Kawhi would be as productive here as he can be on a team like the Spurs), but the Jackson/Casey thing boggles my mind. To me that sounds like baseless complaining just for the sake of complaining.

by Lacob's Ladder on Jan 12, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

but the Jackson/Casey thing boggles my mind. To me that sounds like baseless complaining just for the sake of complaining.

That’s one thing in a laundry list of complaints. If it was just that hiring alone, you’d have a point. But it’s not. Not even close. Nice strawman, though.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not going to throw away all hope because Kawhi is/looks like/might be a better player than Klay and Casey is/looks like/might be a better coach than Jackson.

If those were the only two things that I listed, you’d have a point. But that’s only the tip of the iceberg. I listed others. Apparently you didn’t read the list.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Even as just a part of a longer list

each individual thing can be unnecessary complaining. I read the list. I don’t care for any of it, even if I agree with some of the ideas behind it.

You’re complaining about things we can’t change. I wish we had the power to make our team better, but we don’t. We have 2 options, either support the team, or don’t.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re complaining about things we can’t change. I wish we had the power to make our team better, but we don’t.

Other fanbases demand winners. Why can’t we?

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

And how do you propose we do that?

I’m not spending any $ on the Warriors this season, and I spent $35 on Monta jersey from Ebay last year.

Complaining/whining on this site is insignificant. It won’t force a change.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Complaining/whining on this site is insignificant. It won’t force a change.

If Warriors fans stopped going to games, the FO would make major changes.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Good luck with that

if you’ve ever claimed we have the best fan base in the NBA, be prepared to take it back then.

And I already said Im not spending $ on em. The two games I got to go to last year were a gift and a pair of complimentary tickets for reffing a youth jamboree at the arena.

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by Brownie13 on Jan 13, 2012 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Good luck with that

also, look at the all star ballots…the average NBA fan doesn’t really get it (or at least those most likely to vote multiple times on the internet)

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 13, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

there isn't anything that the fan base is doing

or anything blogs are doing that will provide the epiphany they need.

by salary_cap on Jan 12, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

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by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Here here!
Asking/wishing for others even before we know how they will turn out. What if this is the perception Klay feels he has around Warrior nation, or that Jackson feels he has? How would that help us?

Totally agreed. It’s unproductive. Everyone bitched and wrote off Kwame when we signed him; people were booing him when I went to game against the Bulls. And now 10 games later, we’re bemoaning his loss? It just shows you how uncertain these things can be. But throwing a fit and making proclamations of certainty after only 10 games is silly.

by Lacob's Ladder on Jan 12, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Whos bemoaning his loss?

He was horrible when they signed him and will be even more horrible when he is injured. 7 mil down the drain. Nothing uncertain about it – Kwame is horrible basketball player with no passion for the game..

by farid on Jan 14, 2012 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

The rest of the bigs, for one

You can’t coach size. For all of Kwame’s lack of effort, defensively he dominated the low block early on in the season. Everybody else at the 5 is a virtual mismatch, including Biedrens (who at this point is playing like a glorified 6 fouls to give).

Once again, the Warriors cannot field a decent 5. And I guarantee that’s been the difference in about 5 of the last 6 losses.

by ender2148 on Jan 22, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

for once..(i think)...i agree with brownie lol.

and he is clearly not being a homer because he wants to support his team. And besides its too damn early to be critical of players such as klay (even though i seriously think he sucks and i think he should of played in D-league).

Rookies are rookies and time is different for everyone. What if Klay becomes what we all believe him or hopes to be? Its certainly a bonus. If we all talk about the past, then the regrets will keep piling up. And Evanz, paraphrasing here…but you said something about learning from history. You’re right, we should learn from history and we should not make the same mistakes as before. I get it…but how does history apply to the current warriors. Whats done is done. What should be the next form of plan? Should we bicker about not having Leonard or Monroe? Its useless because whats done is done. We complained and we keep complaining. But i seriously think we should be focusing on what WE can do and what the team SHOULD do…not should have…because we can’t predict the future.

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by bimmercirem3 on Jan 12, 2012 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Your comment aligns exactly with my feelings on the issue. We have the team we have, for better or worse. We need to stop thinking we’re smarter than GMs.

by Slightly Hyphy on Jan 22, 2012 12:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I LOVE

how a lot of people on this site say they have little to no faith in Lacob and Riley, but somehow think tanking will help us.

You do know, if we tank, those are the two guys with the most say over who we draft, right?

If you hate the Udoh over Monroe pick, and Klay over Kawhi, you’re only going to end up with more of those if we tank. The reason OKC was so successful with that strategy is because they hit on 3 out of 4 top 10 picks in 3 years. They also hit on a 24th pick with Ibaka. On the one top 10 pick you could even suggest they missed on, they traded him for a legitimate NBA center, probably the best individual man-to-man defensive center in the NBA, the perfect guy to combat giants like Andrew Bynum and Dwight Howard.

They make good moves, whether it be drafting, trading, or re-signing.

At the opposite end of the spectrum have been teams like the Timberwolves, Raptors, Clippers, Bobcats, Kings, and Bucks. If you don’t trust our management, why do you think we’ll end up any better than these teams. Clippers hit pure coincidence twice. They won the first overall pick and got Blake Griffin, then had the league shut down a trade sending Chris Paul to the Lakers. With their management, I expect them to end up right back where they were after 1 or 2 playoff appearances. There’s no reason to expect otherwise.

So, if you don’t believe in the management, how is tanking any better of an option?

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by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 6:26 PM PST reply actions  

even terrible talent evaluators can get lucky sometimes

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 6:29 PM PST up reply actions  

So we get luck 1 out of 4...

and up with CUrry and nobody? lol

or Love and nobody?

or Evans and Cousins and still headed nowhere?

or Bogut and nobody?

1 guy doesn’t make us better than we are now lol

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by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

U need luck even to get to that point

and then theres still:

kwame, thabeet, strom swift, darius miles, marcus fizer, eddy curry, jay williams, darko,

all taken within a 4 year span in the top 4 picks (I chose to go 4 deep because that’s all you’re guaranteed with the worst record)

on a quick gauge, I’d say about half of even high picks go on to be good NBA players, and even less go on to be core players for a franchise. considering the percentages, likelyhood of a team with bad management getting multiple franchise-changing players is unlikely.

you want a chance at a star player, we would have been just as well of trading Curry for CP3. risky, but so is the draft. at least our management would already know CP3 IS a star.

we have just as much chance becoming successful in either fashion, because our management is either good, or its bad. we’ll just be failing in another way if we start tanking

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by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

yup at that last point.

no matter how bad or good we tank, we will still be bad. Yes tanking sounds good in theory but luck is a major factor in tanking. I would love to believe we can tank and still play with some heart.

I would also tank if we cleared out all our roster and just gutted it for multiple picks. But guess what, we can’t because we actually have a decent team (believe it or not). We actually have pieces that needs time. I know I bash the Warriors for the continual suckage…but fuck! Let Lacob and Co have some time to do something. Last time I checked, they hired some pretty damn good people on their side. Lets not forget we have Curry/Monta as a duo…which is pretty damn good as a pair.

We are clearly not thinking clearly because of injuries. This season’s flucuation reminds me so much of curry’s frosh year when the injury bug hit and all of us at GSOM are crying foul and just tank. We can’t tank because fans won’t let them. No matter how much you want the 1st pick…fans won’t let that happen. That is why the Warriors Fans are so damn faithful. THEY FUCKING BELIEVE IN THEM. Have some faith!

curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.

by bimmercirem3 on Jan 12, 2012 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

enough with the profanity

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

lol i was thinking the same

but more because i felt like it was a situation where someone was yelling even when they didn’t need to. kind of like Skip Bayless or anyone he argues on First Take lol

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by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

haha...

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry about that. i was just caught up in the moment.

im currently waiting for class to start so im bored :/

curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.

by bimmercirem3 on Jan 12, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

you know how many minutes in a day?

2 out of 1440 is not a good percentage lol

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by Brownie13 on Jan 12, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

if 50% GOOD player is a good percentage

well be below that if u dont trust em

and who knows if well end up with even 1 superstar

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by Brownie13 on Jan 13, 2012 12:35 AM PST up reply actions  

re: A broken clock is right twice a day.

not true

what if it is just running slightly slow or fast?

a stopped clock is right twice a day

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 13, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

You do know, if we tank, those are the two guys with the most say over who we draft, right?

Riley needs to go. Lacob needs to hire someone who can make the necessary moves.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 12, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

And do what with Myers?

He’s clearly not ready, given his the size of his man-crush on Deandre Jordan.

by Lacob's Ladder on Jan 12, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

West for GM!

Oh wait, he’s not interested in that again. Besides, it’s not like Klay will do any… what’s that you say? 23 minutes and 5-8 (4-5 3-pt!!!!) shooting against the Magic. No, that must be a mistake. Too small a sample size. He’ll just go back to bricking it next game.

by ender2148 on Jan 12, 2012 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

id rather gamble on myers than stick with riley

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 12, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

then thats step one.

tanking would not be

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by Brownie13 on Jan 13, 2012 12:35 AM PST up reply actions  

EvanZ

Even in your current tank outlook Lacob HAS to be better than Cohan was right?

I mean… even if Lacob makes wrong decisions, at least he’s more public/emotional than Cohan was. Or would you argue that somehow Lacob’s strong desire to get this basketball team to the playoffs, compared with Cohan’s absolute indifference to the Warriors on the court hurts the Warriors in the short-run because we need to tank now and not get stranded in the 9-10th place in the Western Conference.

Just think… if we had Cohan we would be tanking and getting those higher draft picks for sure. sarcasm But at least Lacob is giving effort to succeed, although it may not produce good results (and may be backfiring).

by Warriors Fanatic on Jan 12, 2012 6:30 PM PST reply actions  

comparing what and how this team conducts itself with SA won't bring positive feelings

isn’t that what the Leonard – envy gets wrapped up in ? SA has competence/excellence in coaching and talent eval, which have brought it unequalled stability and consistent success. A dysfunctional organization , in contrast, will make changes out of insecurity, over-reacting, over-compensating, and never finds stability. SA can make moves that would seem risky for other teams, because they’re confident that Popovich can make things work, or at worst they’ll find a means to rectify the problem. [drafting D.Blair a good example of this]. Leonard will be put into situations that maximize his chance to succeed, and he doesn’t have nearly the pressure when he gets his minutes that Thompson has, simply because he’s part of a successful, confident organization. SA just cut the recently -signed free agent Diogu and replaced him with a d-leaguer.

Lacob’s gang hasn’t met the ‘dysfunctional’ label on its own merits yet, but tries too hard to erase the Cohan legacy, which it can’t really do with the lost first round pick and standing pat with Ellis and Biedrins. Trading for Lee, drafting Udoh were pushed at least in part by overreacting. Insecure about his n.b.a. credibility, Lacob gives West a part of the team to borrow a little bit of the aura of respect, and that led directly to drafting Thompson.

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by the.monk on Jan 12, 2012 7:26 PM PST reply actions  

Kawhi's good

kinda upset now that the Kings didn’t pick him but then again he was one of the few college guys I remotely liked last year so for me it was more about fandom then looking just at the numbers

by wallywagon11 on Jan 12, 2012 7:27 PM PST reply actions  

Leonard was the obvious better choice than Klay

I have never been high on Klay. Believe it or not he is performing better than I expected at defense. He wasn’t particularly efficient in college, he will need to see a lot of improvement to become a better player than Leonard already is. Leonard’s true value comes from his major + on defense which we absolutely need. Leonard I think may become a Gerald Wallace type, which is a good type to have.

by brutusbrutus on Jan 12, 2012 9:51 PM PST reply actions  

I have a question

Why is this on the front page?

What, just because you’re a mod (awarded by merit, no less) that gives you license to put up an “I told you so” as if everyone was acting like you were wrong or as if management cared what you thought? What’s that you say? The Warriors are undermanned and lack talent and the FO blew it with the amnesty? SHOCKER.

More importantly what is it going to do now? I’d like to at least try to enjoy the misfits gelling and pulling some glorious wins out of their asses early in a 66-game season before everybody starts passing judgment, Riley and Lacob be damned. The players and coaching staff know what they’ve been dealt, and even with injuries they’re showing heart and resilience. Can’t we just enjoy that with someone bitching about things they can’t control?

And finally, here’s a suggestion—why don’t you ask them for a job if you’re so brilliant? Snarky quip aside, everybody know you’re a smart guy with quality, sound statistical analysis and knack for knowing what to make of it. Why not, instead of just spending all of this time and energy posting it to a fansite, actually use your talents to help your team out? Before you call this absurd, you’ll never know if you don’t ask. You’re welcome for the advice.

:Waiting unnecessary accusations of being a homer even though I live in SoCal and only follow the team because of Steph in 3….2….1….:

by ender2148 on Jan 12, 2012 10:05 PM PST reply actions  

Then why do I have to spell it out for you, troll?

Because it sounds to me like you forgot the last part where I said that IT DOESN’T MAKE A F***ING DIFFERENCE TODAY BECAUSE IT’S IN THE PAST. Is Evanz supposed to feel vindicated now? Is it supposed to make anyone else feel better about the team, or that, shockingly, only ten games into the season there is still the wonderful opportunity to either a) make a run back to a winning record or b) tank for a top 7 draft pick? And if any of you feel so strongly about it, write a letter complaining to ownership to get their collective heads out of the sand! Or do what I suggested to Evanz—prove that you know more than the boys who get paid the big bucks by sending in a job application and taking your talents to 1011 Broadway instead, and make them keep saying no until they can’t refuse you! That seems to make a lot more sense then this masochistic perversion you guys call being Warriors fans.

Which brings me back to Evanz—I got no beef with him being promoted to mod because he has devotes incredible passion, energy, and reasonably argued, well-supported posts. I also think I made it evidently clear that this isn’t exactly the type of thing about which somebody likes to say “Look at me, I was right!!!!!”. But this sorry excuse of a rant isn’t worthy of being on of the first things on the site. This was almost GSC bad. Excuse me for thinking that a mod should be a little more selective in what he decides is front page material, “slow traffic” be damned, and stooping to the level of certain people who get criticized here as trolls all the time. As a member of this community, and considering how often certain people in this community are quick to call out others for their seeming ignorance, I invoke my right to tell Evanz that he’s better than that.

And that brings me back to you, Skeptic sin source—I’m a high school teacher. You want to know the difference between you and the smartasses I have to deal with everyday (loveable as they are sometimes)? They range from ages 14-18—they have excuses for being knuckleheads. Somehow I think you’re a little older than that. As I said before, even though I agree with Evanz’ points, I at least had an argument for him to pause and take a deep breath, and realize that life goes on. You responded with a snarky quip that missed the point completely. I don’t know if you know this, but not everybody appreciates ironic, indifferent one-liners that show about as much creativity, thought, or regard for other people who have a point to make as Chelsea Handler. I do, but in small doses. You have a point of being a dick about it as if it was your job, and I find it annoying and counteractive to the reason I’m ultimately on this board—to have a greater experience of rooting for Steph and the Warriors.

Grow up or shut the f*** up.

by ender2148 on Jan 13, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 13, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

it sounds to me like you forgot the last part where I said that IT DOESN’T MAKE A F***ING DIFFERENCE TODAY BECAUSE IT’S IN THE PAST

The last part says " other people’s posts?" unless you are talking about this post where it says “shut the f*** up” ? Do your students ever appear confused at times?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 13, 2012 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

and by amnesty

I meant draft. Equally as disastrous though, to be sure.

by ender2148 on Jan 12, 2012 10:50 PM PST reply actions  

We can't use the amnesty on the elephant in the room on Evanz.

We’ll use it on the expiring, rarely used Adam Lauridsen. The Warriors way.

by GovernorStephCurry on Jan 13, 2012 12:03 AM PST reply actions  

haha, good point, seems like GSoM has done a better job at managing their roster than the Dubs

sure, we lost Lauridsen, but we picked up Sleepy, Evanz, and NateP!

solid work guys, keep it up!

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 13, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Blow the whole thing up

I’m even nervous that our young pieces (Udoh and Thompson) aren’t even worth keeping and developing. How disastrous have those last two picks been when considering the talent we passed?

Keep Curry, Rush, and maybe Tyler. Trade for a couple quality starters, cap relief (big expirings), and pile up as many draft picks as possible.

Do all that and we still might be screwed because I’m starting to worry that Mark Jackson’s take on coaching the game of basketball is similar to the perspective he took as a T.V. analyst. I thought he was just being theatrical or entertaining on T.V. But this is how he sees this offense going. Of course I like the defensive toughness, but do we believe he’s going to put the right combinations together to get results in the western conference?

by eastbayglory on Jan 13, 2012 1:33 AM PST reply actions  

I don't think that 10 games in this season

should say anything about his coaching ability. A lot of teams look awkward and stunted. This is more of a function of having only two weeks to actually practice with each other. I personally think that the team has looked better in the last couple of games.

The western conference is in flux right now, with all of the traditional power teams are on the wane. This is a bad time to be rebuilding.

by AYEq on Jan 13, 2012 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

EvanZ stop beating a dead horse already!

Sheesh

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 13, 2012 3:58 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Do stop

At some point the horse will get up and WILL draft Kawhi!

by farid on Jan 14, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

I had Alec Burks thinking Kawhi Leonard would be gone. It was Jerry West’s connection with Michael Thompson that made us take Klay instead of BAP :(.

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by callahan on Jan 18, 2012 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

At least Klay looks like he can play in the NBA.

Some #11 picks aren’t even that.

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 PM PST reply actions  

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