Why Haven't the Warriors sent Jeremy Tyler to the D-League?

by doubleteapot on Jan 14, 2012 12:07 AM PST

On Thursday, Dwight Howard destroyed the Warriors on his way to a 40-20 night, the first since 2003. Nobody on the Warriors could defend Dwight, and many of the Warriors players got into foul trouble. However, besides the lack of post defense, another issue presented itself. Here are the playing times for each of the Warriors big men:

Andris Biedrins 20:44

David Lee 41:41

Ekpe Udoh 14:32

Jeremy Tyler 1:12

Andris Biedrins was in foul trouble all night. Ekpe Udoh couldn't stay with Dwight Howard and every possession ended with either a basket or a foul. David Lee sometimes had to guard Howard, and he also ended up fouling out, along with Biedrins. However, there was one player who the Warriors would not play no matter what: Jeremy Tyler. They even went small instead of playing Jeremy Tyler. He was only sent out once to intentionally foul Dwight Howard.

By not playing Tyler even with all the other big men fouling out, the coaching staff basically told everyone that Jeremy Tyler was not ready to play NBA basketball. They told everyone that they thought having Tyler defend Dwight would be worse than having Lee or Udoh defend Dwight.

If the coaching staff is going to sit Jeremy Tyler on the bench, then it is obvious that the Warriors should send Tyler to the D-League. The Warriors did not pay two million to see Jeremy Tyler sit on the bench. Joe Lacob did not buy a D-League team so he could watch it go unused. In addition, this is a shortened season, meaning that there is not a lot of practice time between games and that Tyler will not be able to improve if he stays on the Warriors. If the Warriors truly believe that they can develop Tyler, then he should be sent to the D-League immediately.

Larry Riley knows all of this. He signed Earl Barron today. Earl Barron is not a good player. But apparently he is good enough to start over Jeremy Tyler. If that is the case, then there is absolutely no reason to wait. Send Tyler to the D-League.

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Honestly I thought if Tyler was ever going to get some time, it was this game

With Kwame hurt and the Hack-a-Howard in effect, it seemed likely to me that Tyler could get 10-15 minutes this game. Howard is a monster, but offensively he is still kinda raw. I think Tyler would of had much more success than either Udoh or Lee at putting a body in front of Howard. And even if he wasn’t, look he has 6 fouls to give. Lee was having a pretty solid offensive night and having him take 6 fouls was absurd.

I agree, if Tyler couldn’t find any playtime in a game like this, he should be in the d-league where he can at least get some kind of development. Sitting at the end of the bench isn’t helping him.

by kyzah on Jan 14, 2012 12:16 AM PST reply actions

+1

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jan 15, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions

maybe they feel that tyler will get better quicker practicing against the other warriors centers rather than dominating the d-league

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by bigkino217 on Jan 14, 2012 12:21 AM PST reply actions 1 recs

I talked about that

With the condensed schedule, there is not a lot of practice time. Any practice time will be short and irregular. That is not good if you want to develop a rookie. Send Tyler to the D-League and let him try to improve there.

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by doubleteapot on Jan 14, 2012 12:28 AM PST up reply actions

i cant really think of any examples of big men that improved from playing in the d-league

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by bigkino217 on Jan 14, 2012 12:35 AM PST up reply actions

generally, any semi-competent big man can dominate

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by bigkino217 on Jan 14, 2012 12:36 AM PST up reply actions

kwame went to the d league, didnt he?

Last season wasn’t terrible for him and neither was this season before the injury.

by Xtremelink on Jan 16, 2012 8:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

Kwame didn't go to the D league last year

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by dubzfan on Jan 16, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions

or was it the year before?

My point is he came back better. Tyler has a lot more untapped potential, but I’m sure he works his ass off in practice and they need any big body with kwame out, so I can see why he’s not in the d league.

by Xtremelink on Jan 17, 2012 1:21 AM PST via mobile up reply actions

He never did

He went from the Wiz to LAL to Memphis to Detroit then Charlotte then here

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by dubzfan on Jan 22, 2012 8:54 PM PST up reply actions

Charlotte’s not in the DLeague?! Who woulda thunk it.

by Missing Barry on Jan 23, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs

hahahaaha

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 24, 2012 6:06 PM PST up reply actions

Well... I think

Coach Jackson has a plan for Tyler. He’s trying probably trying to get him into practicing and knowing how he should play because we never had a preseason or training camp. He’s being taught how to play. He shouldn’t go straight to the D-League if he doesn’t even know how to play in our system. He needs to learn Jackson’s system first and then go to the D-League.

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by bojangles408 on Jan 14, 2012 9:59 AM PST reply actions

Tyler is a head case

So I think the coach wants to keep him in his sights. I think the Warriors are trying to evaluate if they have anything there or not. I’m not sold that they even plan to keep him. He’s a long shot, and tey will probably give him a couple of years, but I think they will want to keep him under the coach’s watch as long as they can afford to.

I think sending him to the D League risks having him mentally regress. That, I think is the fear.

by Gainon10 on Jan 14, 2012 10:50 AM PST reply actions

where are you getting the "head case " from? i dont think that is an issue anymore...

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jan 15, 2012 6:33 PM PST up reply actions

There might be other issues and/or injuries that we are not aware of...

Getting a pasting from Howard and fouling out in five minutes would probably not done very much for his development…..Having said that, he needs to get a few more minutes per game than he is getting. Problem is, there has been very little scrub time in games layed so far as our depleted team has fought down the wire just about each and every one of them….(amazing, really, unless you figure that other NBA teams are slow in gearing up also due to the shortened season; especially the vet teams).

by dinohealth on Jan 14, 2012 7:52 PM PST reply actions

but i dont understand that when we are up by 15 tonight with 2 mintues why he cant go in? we put him in with 24 seconds lol..

THAT TO ME is the biggest slap in the face reinforcing that he just sucks and doesnt belong.

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Jan 15, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions

im glad he is in nba2k12 now

time to make him ROY…lol

>:(

by BeePill on Jan 14, 2012 9:19 PM PST reply actions

Right

he’s a good dunker in 2k12 too. He has a better rating than Earl Barron haha

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by GSW9 on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions

coaching

does the d-league affiliate have a big man’s coach of the calibre of Scott Roth ? if he’s getting better instruction, even with limited practices, with the big club he has more to gain from staying despite the paltry playing time.

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by the.monk on Jan 14, 2012 11:14 PM PST reply actions

We have Scott Roth?

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by GovernorStephCurry on Jan 15, 2012 6:58 PM PST up reply actions

Nelson brought in Roth

for one season ; they had ties going back to Dal and Roth working with Nowitski when der Dirkster was a teenager. Nelson and his wife actually let Roth stay with them when he moved to oaktown — he had been coaching d-league in Bakersfield. After the season, with the ownership and Nelson’s status in limbo Roth had no contract, so he took a job in Tor.

there are only a small number of coaches who’ve really succeeded coaching bigs for the pros, among them, the late P.Newell, the retired John Thompson the elder, Roth, B.Cartwright. P.Silas is probably pretty good, and McHale might be but wouldn’t work as an ass’t coach at this point in his career. when K.Brown was drafted directly out of high school, Jordan and Collins didn’t bother to give him special training for his position, but even now, more than ten years later, how many young bigs would put in the long hours of repetition in footwork drills and training ? Brown wasn’t even able to play when this season began because he lacked conditioning, and he’s a seasoned vet. A.Randolph couldn’t stay focused or keep his temper during practices when he was a rookie, and many young bigs are probably like him in preferring to play like a guard and free lance instead of building a repertoire of post moves, fakes, and shots?

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by the.monk on Jan 15, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions

Very good point

On a team that is clearly trying to find its identity, you’d think 6 minutes a game for Tyler should be called for.

I’m “guessing” this has something to do with Tyler’s practices. Maybe he hasn’t learned the system yet – maybe he hasn’t put enough effort in. Ultimately, there’s no reason for him to not be getting a little PT, just to assess him.

Of course, another reason could be that he’s a trade chit – and playing him may only reduce his value in a multi-player swap. right now he’s potential (size/athleticism). if he plays and sucks, then he’s just another 7’ stiff.

by joegiant on Jan 16, 2012 11:08 AM PST reply actions

Ultimately, there’s no reason for him to not be getting a little PT, just to assess him.

Completely disagree. You don’t put a guy that isn’t ready into games just so fans can assess him. He has to earn it. The coaching staff gets to see what he can do in practices, they don’t need gametime to figure out if he knows how to play the game. My guess is Tyler isn’t remotely ready to play basketball at an NBA level, and what reason do we have to think otherwise?

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions