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Recap #11: Charlotte Bobcats 112, Golden State Warriors 100 - An Ugly Way To Remain Winless On The Road

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A colleague of mine often focuses on the first four minutes of a game or half that help a team set the tone going forward.

Tonight in Charlotte, the Golden State Warriors seemed to do exactly that with a quick 10-3 lead in the first three minutes in their game against the Bobcats. Then a few minutes after closing the gap, the Bobcats went on a 19-4 run to finish the first quarter and proceeded to put the Warriors in 20-point hole by halftime.

It's safe to say that it was a deflating first quarter in a game that most of us probably expected more from after two relatively strong performances at home.

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Let's just be honest: the Warriors did not play good basketball tonight by any stretch of the imagination.

@gswscribe: David Lee: "There’s no way we should have lost this game. We played like (expletive). You can put that (expletive) in quotes."

Sure the late run was nice to see after looking like the substance David Lee referred to the team as for the first three quarters. But the outcome makes it hard to put the poorer aspects of the game aside.

The Bobcats came in on a losing streak and came in as one of the worst shooting teams in the league. If the Warriors are going to play "no excuses", defensive basketball, playing short-handed on the road is not an excuse to allow the Bobcats to shoot 50%, especially allowing so many easy baskets as the game got away from them early on.

For the San Francisco 49ers fans among us, whatever bright sports there were in tonight's loss will likely pale in comparison to the Niners playing at the same time as this game and beating the odds to overcome the New Orleans Saints and advance to the NFC Championship game for the first time in forever.

But here's a quick rundown of some things that stood out.

Andris Biedrins active inside. Maybe too "active".

You had to love the energy that Biedrins brought to the game early on.

He had a couple of strong put backs, a nice basket off a Monta Ellis drive, and was active on the boards to collect 8 points and 4 boards in the first 8 minutes of the game.

Yet obviously, Biedrins picking up his third foul with 4:08 left in the first quarter was no small part of why the Warriors' strong start was short-lived. And the third foul itself was particularly unfortunate - Biedrins was simply turning to run up the court in transition when he brushed Kemba Walker, who had just gotten the rebound and did a pretty good job of selling the foul. Although the momentum was already starting to swing when Biedrins went out to do some poor defense around the basket that left them open to Bobcats dunks and other high percentage scoring opportunities right around the basket.

Nevertheless, seeing Biedrins active around the basket and making plays is a welcome sight after the last couple of seasons.

Charles Jenkins logs a career-high 22 minutes

Jenkins did not have a spectacular night, but - setting numbers aside - this was the type of game that helps you to understand why he quickly gained favor from the Warriors' coaching staff over the recently-waived Ish Smith.

He was generally under control (e.g. not over-dribbling) offensively and has a frame that makes him a strong defensive presence. The problem, especially in a game where the team is struggling to make shots, is that he hasn't yet become much of a significant scoring presence.

Monta Ellis carries the burden of playing the role of distributor and scorer

Given the team's offensive struggles overall, Ellis' 6-for-26 performance should be put in context.

It might be easy to look at a game like tonight's and say that Ellis should just shoot less.

But first, if Ellis isn't going to the rim as a distributing and scoring threat, the Warriors offense pretty much comes to a standstill with Stephen Curry injured. And tonight it would've been even harder to imagine this team generating much of any offense without Ellis remaining aggressive.

Second, Bobcats rookie Kemba Walker deserves some credit for Ellis' poor shooting for doing a reasonable job defensively trying to bother Ellis on his shots. Still, Ellis finished with 6 assists to 2 turnovers, which is an efficient performance as a distributor especially when looking at a backcourt that also included Jenkins' 3 assists and 0 turnovers. When taken as a whole - as well as all the times he kicked or dumped to a teammate who simply missed the open shot that Ellis' shot created - Ellis had a better performance than his field goal percentage suggests.

Although it would've been nice for Ellis to be more efficient, it's also hard to blame him for this type of outcome as long as teammates aren't scoring.

Nate Robinson

With Ellis out in the fourth quarter, the Warriors looked for someone else to score. And the fact is that this game might have been a 20-point or greater loss had it not been for Nate Robinson's effort in the fourth quarter. They needed scoring and he created opportunities for himself and others.

There's no quit in Robinson, there are few players that possess more self-confidence than this guy, and it was a welcome sight tonight.

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David Lee

Lee takes a lot of heat around here for what he doesn't do, but tonight was another night where what he did do in the team's tepid performance actually stood out.

Lee did a good job early of establishing position to get buckets around the basket either off entry passes or tip-ins early and just to see someone turning energy into production - aside from Biedrins who was dealing with foul trouble - was at least a positive.

Of course, his plus/minus (-13) points to him having another less productive game than his final stats (team-high 24 points, game-high 16 rebounds) suggest, but this was such a poor performance for the team that it's hard to just disregard Lee's performance when looking for bright spots.

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I agree that Lee should be WW

It just seems like an empty award whenever the Warriors lose games like these. It’s like the “Hey, who didn’t suck the most?” award.

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by doubleteapot on Jan 14, 2012 9:08 PM PST reply actions  

Monta has a bad shooting night/game, and the team folds! Every time this happens, this season, count it on the loss column!

This game proves how thin this team is. You cannot win with 2.5 players producing (Lee, Monta, Nate). If one of them has a bad night, it is over! With Curry out, and depending on rookies to do the job, we can just forget about this season. Watching Kemba play, remind me of what a bonafide PG is all bout!

by dinohealth on Jan 14, 2012 9:10 PM PST reply actions  

Few observations: #1 Udoh should have played more back up center. He was better than Barron and Chris Wright and was owning Mullens. #2 Losing Brown sucks. He was a HUGE help… literally. ha ha ha ha ha Seriously, he was very helpful. #3 I thought it was interesting that we were able to shut the Bobcats down at the end. That’s a sign of good things to come, although we sucked most of that game. I hope Jackson tears into the team for that weak performance.

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by Naticus on Jan 14, 2012 9:57 PM PST reply actions  

lol yesss

he was so good that i didnt even watch the warriors lol

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by bigkino217 on Jan 14, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

damn

at first i felt like warriors had the best draft results, now its starting to look like the worst. Jenkins is solid though. Thompson needs a lot of work.

by GSWeri on Jan 14, 2012 10:55 PM PST reply actions  

Lol

You thought we had a good draft? TBH , Klay should have been seen from a mile away as most here wanted Leonard who is now a starter in SA. Tyler is a project though

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by dubzfan on Jan 14, 2012 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I won't write off Thompson yet

But it’s discouraging how much work he has. He does do a bit of everything aside from shooting.

I want to see him handle more, and penetrate a bit more. I know it was just pre-season but he had a KMart-esque thing going on by getting to line pretty often.

Beyond that, he’s a solid passer. We should experiment a bit more with it v. second units who are young like Charlotee.

Also, he needs to be more aggressive.

by tafkasam on Jan 15, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually think the Warriors would be better off dialing it back a little with him

and just setting him up for spot up shots off screens for now. Let him get comfortable doing that, then slowly expand

He has gotten himself in the most trouble right now when trying to do too much.

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by Nate Parham on Jan 15, 2012 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

he should be Dorell Wright from last season

just shoot spot-up 3’s

and so should Rush

this team won’t win any other way – I’d make the starters Monta/Rush/Klay/Lee/Udoh and just see what happens.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 15, 2012 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Barnes is very good

He’s automatic in catch and shoot, but he’s been improving off the dribble.

His per 40 stats-
27.1 points, 7.4 rebounds, 7.2 FTAs, 50.2fg%, 51.2 3pt%, .59 TS%

And his game suits NBA more. I think he’s a player who will only see statistical increases in NBA game.

by tafkasam on Jan 15, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

His off the dribble is simple but decent and getting better, he’s also a lock down defender

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by dubzfan on Jan 15, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

11 games into the season we've got the 6th worst record in NBA

Do you guys believe that we can make a splash once Steph comes back and/or we make a trade? Or do you guys want to tank and pick up a good player in draft and add in the free agency?

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by aleatoric on Jan 15, 2012 12:08 AM PST reply actions  

Trade Monta for a pick. Shutdown Curry for a month, maybe the year.

What really killed us is the fact that we should have amnestied David Lee.

by Anonymous1337 on Jan 15, 2012 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we should have held onto amnesty ability for a couple years and then used it on Lee.

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by Naticus on Jan 15, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

We will likely play our way out of the top 7 when Curry comes back sadly

And we aren’t going to trade Steph

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by dubzfan on Jan 15, 2012 12:29 AM PST up reply actions  

wow, the warriors really stink

by bernardking on Jan 15, 2012 2:12 AM PST reply actions  

Bobcats fan here...

Good game. The Cats experimented with the small line up and fortunately for them it worked. I really don’t see that line up getting a lot of wins this year, but it’s kind of all they have to work with. Like you guys, the Cat’s are depending on rookies and first time players on the team for scoring. I personally would like to see Kemba the starter. He is electric out there on the floor and the Cats need his energy.
I hope Curry gets well soon. I really wanted to see him at the game. He’s a great young talent. Good luck guys on the season.

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by D.W.G. on Jan 15, 2012 2:33 AM PST reply actions  

The Cats experimented with the small line up and fortunately for them it worked

They did this because the Warriors are so small now.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 15, 2012 6:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Like you guys, the Cat’s are depending on rookies and first time players on the team for scoring.

Um…

the 4 guys we expected to lead us in scoring were:

Monta Ellis (7th year with Warriors)
Stephen Curry (3rd year with Warriors)
David Lee (2nd year with Warriors, 7th overall)
Dorell Wright (2nd year with Warriors, 8th overall)

See how there’s not a rookie or first-time Warrior in the bunch?

You could be referring to our bench, which is full of first time Warriors and rookies, but since it’s supposed to have been a defensive bench, I don’t see how we’d be relying on them for scoring.

We just aren’t what we expected to be, which wasn’t much to begin with.

And I’m not trying to be rude, but it most certainly wasn’t a good game. We’ve beaten the Bulls, Knicks, and Heat. We’ve played close with the Spurs and Lakers on the road. Those were good games, at least to an extent. This was not a good game. For your team, sure. You embarrassed us. But overall? We played awful.

I hope Curry gets well soon. I really wanted to see him at the game. He’s a great young talent. Good luck guys on the season.

Good luck to you too.

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by Brownie13 on Jan 15, 2012 7:17 AM PST up reply actions  

most of me wants Golden State to play better and get healthy

But then again if we keep our top 7 pick we’re going to be in great shape to get an excellent player. I really like Harrison Barnes, I’ve been watching his games and he’s an excellent scorer and improved shooter. I LOVE Drummond too but I doubt we’d get that lucky.. I think he’s returning to UConn next year anyways..

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by Potential on Jan 15, 2012 2:45 AM PST reply actions  

But then again if we keep our top 7 pick we’re going to be in great shape to get an excellent player.

I hear this will be a deep draft. but if we got the 6th or 7th pick would there still be any great player left?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 15, 2012 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep

There’s Andre Drummond, Anthony Davis, Harrison Barnes, Jared Sullinger, Perry Jones, Jeremy Lamb, Austin Rivers (not playing great with Duke atm but definitely is a great talent). I would be extremely happy with any of those 7 players.

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by Potential on Jan 15, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

This is Slader from Denver Stiffs

I think Charles Jenkins was a good pick up for the Warriors – when I saw he was dropping on draft night, I hoped Denver would make a move to get him in the second round.

He doesn’t attempt many shots yet because he is that rarest of players: a great shooter who is unselfish. Playing the point (not his position at Hofstra) I watched him pass, then slide around the perimeter wide open waiting for the game to come to him. It didn’t, because Monta is a finisher and the others haven’t learned to trust Jenkins yet.

They will: Jenkins is a high-character smart player. He will not be an All-star, but I expect him to be a solid reserve. As his teammates learn to include him in the offense, he will reward them with efficient scoring.

Good luck to the Warriors – hope you get healthy soon!

by slader on Jan 15, 2012 3:59 AM PST reply actions  

Jenkin's looks good

I think the new camp thing puts him at a developmental disadvantage.

So far he’s played 87 minutes, 25 points, 57.1( fg%), 14 assists, 2 turnovers, 4 steals. I like it despite the small sample.

Per 36 that works out to
10.3 points, 5.8 assists, 0.8 turnovers 1.5 steals, .583ts%

The major downside to him as been defense and fouling. Natural for a rookie with little experience.

by tafkasam on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

Cool.

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by Naticus on Jan 15, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

the only way this team will win is by hitting 3's

Rush, Wright, and Klay need to shoot more 3’s. You just have to hope they can make enough to win.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 15, 2012 6:01 AM PST reply actions  

Pretty much

My major criticism of our coaching staff is that concept.

We’ve attempted 17th most 3’s in NBA and 19 per game (33.5%)

Last year we were 6th at 21.3 per game (and making 39.3%)

by tafkasam on Jan 15, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep unfortunately we're once again forced to live and die by the 3.

How long before we start running and gunning with Lee at center?!

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
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by kenntoe on Jan 15, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

top 7 pick or not

the warriors will draft another bust…and the beat goes on…damn

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by Regulus on Jan 15, 2012 7:30 AM PST reply actions  

I sense our culture is shifting. I imagine we’ll gradually get better and won’t see so many busts. (Those with dirty minds, those aren’t the busts I was talking about).

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by Naticus on Jan 15, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Riley's head should be on the firing block, at the moment

The way Udoh plays alone is a reason to fire him.

Wish we’d hire Pritchard. Lacob likes him, I dont’ get why he didn’t. Guaranteed he’d shuffle the roster, get some better picks prospects.

by tafkasam on Jan 15, 2012 8:27 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed, I'd have fired him long ago. All aboard the hate train.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jan 15, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Considering Udoh’s age, Udoh is certainly a concern. I wonder if he’s going to develop much more.

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by Naticus on Jan 15, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

As the current first place holder in my fantasy league (despite Horford going down, Melo being hurt and CP3 possibly hurt too)

I am happy to see my sleeper pick up of Mullens continue his ridiculous Brook Lopez type offensive run.

As a warrior fan, I’m disgusted cause he’s not THAT good. Our interior D is just THAT bad.

by tafkasam on Jan 15, 2012 8:29 AM PST reply actions  

that's a good pick but I can't imagine him keeping it up the entire season

you should trade him while he’s got more value now

Speaking of fantasy picks. I got Dwyane Wade with the 5th overall pick, and he has been pretty terrible. He’s rated 9th out of my 10 guys right now, behind:

Gallo, Harden, Anderson, Lawson, Monroe, George, Thad, and Ibaka

(Those are some nasty picks, eh?)

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 15, 2012 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I like what you did there

We had an auction draft (12 team). In order of picks-
CP3 (I paid less than Monta went for, lol), Carmelo, Horford, Bynum, Harden, Batum, Terry, Stuckey, Thad, Perkins.

(picked up Brandon Bass and Mullens for Perkins and someone I forget)

I was bitter I didn’t get Lawson. Went late, I was short on cash.

I am looking to shop Mullens, but he’s got to increase his value. Also considering Melo trade. Would you trade Melo for Bosh/Stack Jack? I’m not sure it’s worth it. Though if I can move Mullens for a good wing, I might.

by tafkasam on Jan 15, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Would you trade Melo for Bosh/Stack Jack?

I would make that trade only if you really need more rebounding.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 15, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

You think so?

I think it hurts my rebounding.

I have a void at PF with Horford done for year. My PF eligible players are- bass, thad, carmelo, dejuan blair.

But Melo @ SF gives me a rebounding edge.

by tafkasam on Jan 15, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha Mullens is nice but he's a jump shooting big who doesn't dominate the boards at over 7".

Great pick up for the Cats though on his rookie scale contract.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Jan 15, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He's been good at the pick and roll, which surprised me

And an elite free throw shooter for a big (93.8%!)-

in 3 starts 25/50- 19.7 ppg.

21.2 pp36 on .545 ts%

by tafkasam on Jan 15, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Karma

since the coach directed his guys to play ugly and intentionally put his offense in slow motion with the foul tactic vs. Orl, he got what he asked for in the road game — a team completely out of synch on both ends. his personnel is scrambling to adjust to each other and to what he wants, and some of his players just aren’t going to be able to constantly adjust ; road trips puts another set of adjustments into play. Lee played like a vet who’s been through this kind of grind and challenge ; the other vets, not so much, and the rookies and new members of the team can’t be expected to maintain consistency.

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by the.monk on Jan 15, 2012 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

road trips puts another set of adjustments into play.

I’ve never really understood why road play is that much harder than home play. it’s not like baseball where the fields are all different and can be tweaked by the grounds crew to suit the home teams type of play. Basketball courts are all pretty uniform in construction methods and materials so the big difference must be psychological? I don’t recall any difference in my performance at home or away games when I was in school but maybe that’s just because we didn’t have to go very far but it still surprises me that pros have such a problem with it.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 15, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

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