We’re saying we haven’t even seen what Tyler’s capable of yet, he’s been in the league for a couple months. Marion, on the other hand, has at most a couple years left in the league. He’s not even close to what he used to be. Also, we have Dorell, Klay, Rush, and McGuire at the position that Marion plays.

We get Marion this year and it is definitively an upgrade on our defense, not to mention our offense (compare to Mr. DWright).

Except that he’s not necessarily an upgrade. Again, really look at who Marion has been: he’s been a great offensive player (high volume, high efficiency) when playing next to Steve Nash. Otherwise – he’s been so-so. High volume, moderate efficiency. That’s not an upgrade.

Defensively:
RAPM on defense, last three full seasons (positive is good):
Marion: .3, 1.5, 1.8, 2.0
Dorell: 1, 1.3, .7, .3

That’s not a great trend for Marion, is it? Yet it’s entirely consistent with a player getting older.
Also bear in mind that the two years before that Dorell wasn’t healthy.

Then next year, Marion will be a great sign and trade chip for us because of his expires.

If you can’t get a player via free agency, you can’t get them via sign-and-trade because a player has to agree for a sign-and-trade to happen. As far as other trades, you know what Marion, as an expiring, will be valuable for?

Exactly what Kwame is valuable for, now: some other team’s declining, overpaid player, so they can get under the cap.

If you’re lucky, you can squeeze a pick out of them. If we were talking about taking Marion in exchange for getting Dallas’s pick, well … if except that Dallas is really good and therefore their pick will suck, it’d be an interesting discussion. But so long as you’re talking a bottom-10 pick, that’ snot really worth much.

So they could easily amnesty Marion and have space. The rich get richer.

So we can pick him up cheap, maybe at Billups range, $2.5mil?

What part of his game do you think will fade in a few years?

After Google, facebook, twitter and Apple all own a NBA team.

With its best player injured. Well according to you guys Steph is the best.

At same time, we are getting nothing out of Kwame.

Haha, very good point. Not to mention Tyler is basically just warming up seat for DLee.

It has nothing to do with expecting something from Kwame. If we’re not headed anywhere, Marion makes no sense. And if we’d be giving up Tyler to get him, possibly to take (or not, it would be very unclear) up our cap room next year, I’d need some youth back. I’ve always thought Mahinmi had some potential, and I like both Jones and Beaubois.

So I’d take him as an upgrade if we’re still chasing the playoffs, or if we got something else back. Otherwise, it doesn’t really help us, and could potentially hurt us.

He’s one of their starters, and they’re still trying to position themselves for another championship, even though they let Tyson walk so they’d have money next off-season. If they don’t seem like a championship team going into the final month or so of the season, they might look to move him. Or if they found a better, cheaper option to fill his role.

But if we’re 16-24 and 8 games out of the playoffs with 26 to play (how many games we have after the trade deadline), is Marion really enough to turn us into a 18-8 team (would put us about 2 games over .500) down the stretch? Probably not. So unless we’re very close to the playoffs at that point, how would he help us? He’d only serve to lose our young big man we purchased for his potential YEARS from now and/or take up our cap room next year.

Dumb trade, unless for the two reasons I cited above:

So I’d take him as an upgrade if we’re still chasing the playoffs, or if we got something else back.