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Ellis posted up looking to score just 2.7 percent of the time a year ago averaging just 0.83 points per possession (PPP). This year Ellis is posting up 9.4 percent of the time and leading the league with a 1.31 PPP.

hmmmm, interesting

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I’ve been pretty surprised how good Monta is when posting up, even against taller or bigger players. Which makes it even more frustrating when he settles for perimeter jump shots. We know he can essentially score at will around the hoop, so every jump shot is simply bailing out the defense.

by Slightly Hyphy on Jan 21, 2012 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

hilarious

sadly its the only thing he has going for him. until the last 2 games, his jumper has been mostly non-existent

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by Brownie13 on Jan 21, 2012 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

he's actually tied for #2

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 21, 2012 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

i actually like when he posts, it actually gives us a reliable post player.

his quickness is his strength when it comes to the post and his crazy but good shots. it’s usually a good shot to take.

overall i think monta is playing extremely well this season, but his teammates are lacking in the help department. Once Curry becomes 100%, i can totally see a post monta and shooting curry become extremely dangerous. HOWEVER, our center is the friggin problem forcing monta to post.

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by bimmercirem3 on Jan 21, 2012 5:27 PM PST reply actions  

I think there is no doubt right now Monta is our best player. As is typical from past seasons, though, his second half of the season will probably be bad given that he is worn down so early in the season.

by Slightly Hyphy on Jan 21, 2012 5:44 PM PST reply actions  

definitely doubt

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 21, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

yup lol

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 22, 2012 1:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Count me in twice… I double doubt.

by Uwe Blog on Jan 22, 2012 4:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think there is no doubt right now Monta is our best player.

You can’t just say “there is no doubt” and think that is a logical argument. Present some facts or something.

Anyway, for the record, I doubt it.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

by Evanz on Jan 21, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You could make the argument Monta is our most talented player, our most dangerous player, and has potential to be our best player… if he ever figures it all out.

That said, we should trade him (or Lee, depending who can get us more) right after we dump Biedrins. We need a new direction, and this core is guaranteed to keep us between 32-44 wins

by tafkasam on Jan 22, 2012 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

and this core is guaranteed to keep us between 32-44 wins

So, you’re saying we’re gonna make the playoffs this year! ;-)

by Lacob's Ladder on Jan 22, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Ooooooh, yet another pissing contest!

Looks like some of the puffed-up dialogue got taken down though. Not so community-friendly, perhaps?

by ender2148 on Jan 22, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Monta is the third best player on the team...

barring contracts, based only on how well player’s effect games…I’d take Curry and Lee over Monta without blinking…

by CharlieBellAmnestyGhostHauntsLarryLohan on Jan 21, 2012 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Monta was a good post up player since 2009-10.

It’s the other parts of his game that need improvement mainly shot selection and dribbling.

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Jan 21, 2012 6:39 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t think his dribbling is that bad. It looks bad and ineffective, but I don’t remember enough instances off the top of my head where his dribbling has negatively affected his game.

I do agree about needing improvement on shot selection (If he just stopped taking long 2’s out of nowhere it would already improve drastically) as well as needing improvement on defense and getting to the free throw line.

His post-up efficiency and passing has pleasantly surprised me thus far this season.

We Believe 2012

by jonathannn on Jan 21, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think his dribbling is that bad. It looks bad and ineffective, but I don’t remember enough instances off the top of my head where his dribbling has negatively affected his game.

well when he keeps his head up, he loses handle of the ball a lot, and when he puts his head down, he can’t find the open player. pretty sure both of those negatively affect his game.

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 21, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

your point?

he has done a good job of keeping his head up and looking for the pass this year. unfortunately, it has also led to multiple turnovers where he was just dribbling.

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 21, 2012 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

a good ballhandler...

would not have even been in the position to get the ball “intentionally kicked” last night.

by CharlieBellAmnestyGhostHauntsLarryLohan on Jan 21, 2012 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It looks bad and ineffective

Well yeah, because it is. ;)

but I don’t remember enough instances off the top of my head where his dribbling has negatively affected his game.

Well, here’s the thing. Monta’s explosive as heck, so he generally doesn’t need nice ballhandling to go by guys. His athleticism helps make up for his lack of ballhandling and mask it’s ineffectiveness. That said, you’re only looking at one part of the equation here. You’re only looking for the times it results in something bad, but forgetting about all the good things that could have happened that didn’t. Granted, those are much more difficult to see – sometimes it’s hard to picture the pass he didn’t see, or how he’d get a cleaner look being under more control….but there are frequently better options if he could keep his dribble lower, stay under better control, and had his head up.

by Missing Barry on Jan 23, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Basketball awareness is Monta’s biggest weakness. His athleticism covers up a lot of flaws in his game. Not being able to go left is one that comes to mind immediately.

by Slightly Hyphy on Jan 22, 2012 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

This year Ellis is posting up 9.4 percent of the time and leading the league with a 1.31 PPP.

that is not good when your small guard is better posting up than any of your bigs are.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 21, 2012 8:24 PM PST reply actions  

to be fair

even the good big men aren’t up at 1.31 PPP

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

by bigkino217 on Jan 21, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

even the good big men aren’t up at 1.31 PPP

but they post up more than 9.4 % of the time.Like stats per 36 min you gotta look a the big picture too.

Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 21, 2012 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I suspect this is a sign of good coaching.

The coaches have helped him learn to recognize when he has a good post-up situation, and enouraged him to do it.

It is also a sign of a more functional team offense, since a post up can only happen if everybody moves and shares the ball.

by Ronaldinho on Jan 22, 2012 1:49 PM PST reply actions  

I agree. I seem to remember the Turtle being an effective post scorer (for a point guard).

by Uwe Blog on Jan 22, 2012 4:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

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