A bad taste in my mouth....
...insert dirty comment here.
But all jokes aside, I've been seeing a lot of comments lately around a rebuild movement. Trading Steph, Monta or a combination of both of them for draft picks, tanking this year and trying to get in the top 7 to keep our own.
What just occurred to me this morning is that I've missed the past two Warriors games, haven't even watched them on DVR. Now, some of you might read this and think, what's the big deal? Well, I don't think I've missed two games in my entire life. I at least do the honor of skimming through the games on DVR.
There is just a really bad taste in my mouth regarding this team currently. I think part of it has to do with the greediness of the owners/players and the shortened season, all the promises, all the hoopla around our front office saying how we're going to be a playoff team this season, all of the excitement around our young star Curry who can't seem to play 3 games in row anymore without rolling his own ankle.
The general feel that I have is that we're just not a good team, and not getting any better staying put with what we have.
Go to the jump to see what I think we should do.....
Blow it up!
All of these posts I've been reading make a lot of sense.....
GSWarriors1818 - http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2012/1/20/2722754/lets-look-to-the-future
These are the steps I feel are necessary to turn this team around:
1. Keep the front office and coaching staff intact -
Pro's - Despite the grumblings, I am a really big fan of this ownership. They make it clear that winning is their top priority. Cohan's top priority was money. They have put together a high powered, highly regarded staff. This is the first step. They're not scared to make bold moves and not scared to spend money. Steps 2 and 3. Now lets just hope the moves they make are the right ones and they can lure some good FA's, even if just one or two over the next five years.
Con's - That Amnesty on Bell has caused a lot of doubt, deservedly so. Joe Lacob is a very outspoken, aggressive and passionate owner.....maybe to a fault. In the end, I think this will be more of a pro than a con. That's why the biggest thing he needs to learn is to be patient. I think they have a good foundation moving forward and the only thing that will hurt them is making emotional, rash decisions (i.e. the amnestying of Bell and going after Jordan with the knowledge that he would probably resign with LAC after signing our tender, not very smart)
Mark Jackson - Something occurred to me this offseason, while chasing Tyson Chandler. I read an article that said he was very close to Coach Jackson, that he really wanted to play for him and he called him after he made his decision, apologizing and saying he had to take this opportunity to play with Melo and Amare. I'm actually glad we didn't sign him to that much money, but what donned on me is that he is going to attract players based on his swagger, reputation and respect from his days as a player. Things will get better just having him around.
2. Who to keep and who not to keep
Definitely Keep - Klay Thompson
I'd like to see them keep - Dominic McGuire, Brandon Rush, Jeremy Tyler, Ekpe Udoh, Charles Jenkins
Who can go - everyone else.
Breakdown - From the very first game watching Klay Thompson, I felt that he's going to be a player. Everyone was jumping on his back, saying he looks like a lost puppy, that he looks scared, etc. Keep one thing in mind....he's a rookie. IMO, I can see why Jerry West likes this kid. He might be the most fluid, athletic and fundamental player we have on our team. While he doesn't look like he does anything exceptionally well, he seems to do everything pretty well. Now I'm not saying he's going to be an all-star, but I think he's a piece you can add to a championship type team that will strengthen the team, not hurt it. I think Curry is probably a better shooter and definitely a better passer than Klay. Monta is obviously quicker, faster and more athletic. Lee and Beans rebound better, but my point is, this kid can do all of it. He seems like a complete player to me. Once he learns that he can beat people off the dribble, that people already respect his shot, his game is going to take off, I just keep waiting for him to assert himself and not only settle for jumpers.
McGuire, Rush, Udoh and Jenkins seems like really solid role players to me. I would like to see the W's keep them. Jeremy Tyler, I just want to see if he can be something. I'd hold on to him for potential's sake.
I say everyone else can go because of my next point.....
3. Defense - Here's the Catch 22. We've solved one part of the problem in hiring a coaching staff that values defense. But I think our coaching staff that values it so much is quickly realizing you need defenders to play good defense. Odd concept huh? Curry, Monta, Lee, our "Big 3" are without a doubt our worst defenders. This reminds me of the year Eric Musselman was coaching the team and he'd put Earl Boykins and Bobby Sura in at the end of games, replacing Gilbert Arenas and Jason Richardson because they played good D. This won more games, but ultimately got him fired.
4. The Synopsis - Sorry for the long winded post, but to wrap it all up, I think we should look long at hard at acquiring as many draft picks in the next two years and relieving ourselves of as many of the players I had on my cut list. They all have value and the right team might take a stab at taking a chance on them. Lee would obviously be our toughest guy to trade, but he's also the one I wouldn't mind staying, for the short term. He at least tries on D and I think with a year under Malone, could be a very serviceable defender. Plus, I love his mental toughness.
I would trade Curry and Monta in a heartbeat right now for 1st rounders and expirings. Play Charles Jenkins, Klay Thompson and Jeremy Tyler as much as possible and see if any of them might be serious gamers by the end of the season. This way, we would have a clear vision going forward. Right now, I feel like we're a confused teenager trying to figure out their identity and our parents are telling us we have to buckle down and hit the books, yet all we want to do is let loose and have fun.
What would you do?
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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A bad taste in my mouth....
If you don’t like that you don’t like Warrior’s basketball
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 22, 2012 9:22 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
somehow your comment
brings me to this picture:

Even if you do succeed most people wouldn't notice anyway.
-Johnny Bravo is my role model -i m pretty
by Lat We N Trash on Jan 22, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha, I wish
it were that good
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 22, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions
it wasn't
there was Fitz voice in background

Even if you do succeed most people wouldn't notice anyway.
-Johnny Bravo is my role model -i m pretty
by Lat We N Trash on Jan 22, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
They should've canned Riley's behind when they fired Nellie.
What’s the point of keeping Nellie’s lap dog? Hmmm maybe to keep him as Lacob’s lap dog and also use him as a scapegoat if things don’t teen upwards. And they won’t. He should’ve started over and let a REAL GM fix the cluster f*** that is this irrelevant franchise.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
Dominic McGuire, Brandon Rush, Jeremy Tyler, Ekpe Udoh, Charles Jenkins
Look, it’s great to like these guys as role players.
But you don’t built a team by saying “These are role players I like, we should keep them.”
Role players are replaceable.
Meanwhile, you trade Curry for anything but a very high first round pick and you’re trading him for a worse player.
Curry for anything but a very high first round pick
Or a proven star
RIP Al Davis
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Great post
I could not agree more. If we could trade any or all of our talent for draft picks and go into full tank, I could not be happier. I know that role players are replaceable, but I would really love to keep Rush too. I love watching him play. I think we would all prefer to keep Curry. I think to trade him we would need 2 top 10 picks. Honestly in this draft I would trade Monta for a lesser player and a top 15 draft pick or top 15 and cap space.
so we trade curry and monta for future picks who MAY become good.
let me ask you this. do you see any of the players in the upcoming draft becoming SUPERSTARS??? and you want to keep bench players and trade the whole roster?
wow. Now you do have a point and I can see it, but where I disagree is that our starting roster is not the problem…its the center position. Now I would not hesistate to trade either Curry OR Monta to get a center back, but I just don’t see that happening as of now. But I do think either Curry or Monta will be moved by the trade deadline in order to get better. If I had to choose, I would pick Monta because he has more value for teams that need a solid shooting guard who can score in bunches.
As for the bench, its OK. I do agree with most of your points and most peoples on here, its just the way to approach it I think is rather not smart. But who am I to make opinions and bash others so I wont.
curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.
i think curry may have higher trade value
But then again, maybe not due to his ankle. I do agree that a center can help this team and especially lee.
by Xtremelink on Jan 22, 2012 7:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Jeremy Lamb will be better than Monta Ellis!
I love Monta but I’d love to have Lamb. If we can somehow pull it off, whether by tanking or trade, we’d be set at the 2 spot with Lamb and Klay for years
i hope the dubs dont get raped at the trade deadline
" from the outhouse to the penthouse"- Robert parish
by Xtremelink on Jan 22, 2012 7:32 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Ok I'm completely baffled now..
it seems like the majority of the warrior fanbase is ready to trade steph curry for 1st round picks/expirings..and I have one question…WHY!?!?!? Am I the only person enamored with his potential….his ability to put up 20, 6-7 assists, 4-5 rebounds, 2-3 steals with lights out shooting and 90 FT% from the stripe….oh, and he is still on his rookie contract. and is only 23 (5 years out from his prime years)…I just don’t get it…I think, no offense, that it is completely stupid to entertain this thought and would be a catastrophic mistake.
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Jan 22, 2012 8:55 PM PST reply actions
he has the highest trade value
Montas not going to get a top 10 pick in a trade. Curry isn’t good enough to carry a team to the playoffs in the west. An elite pg is not necessary to win a championship. And his ankle is a question mark. I’m not arguing with you or trying to prove you wrong in any way but trading curry away would help the warriors do a thorough rebuild.
by Xtremelink on Jan 22, 2012 9:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
An elite pg is not necessary to win a championship. And his ankle is a question mark
This
A dominate center is much more valuable
RIP Al Davis
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ok but other than Andrew Bynum and Dwight Howard...
there isn’t an elite center in the game….and this post talks about trading curry for a draft pick and an expiring…that is far from an “elite dominating center”
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Jan 23, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
"curry isn't good enough to carry a team to the playoffs in the west..."
right now..yes..but how do you know that in a couple years? Curry has the makings to be one of the best pg’s in the game…he is only 23!! This team is not one trade away from contending…and trading for picks , you do that so you can hopefully get a guy like Curry….makes ZERO sense to trade Curry…it’s not like he is old or even “David Lee old” …the kid is 23!
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Jan 23, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
I'd like to get rid of some big contracts, perhaps get a 1st round pick out of Ellis and Lee
But no way the FO will do such a thing.. Lacob signed a contract to the fans that we’re making the playoffs. He won’t give up 15 games into the season.
GSW '12 CHAMPS!
I think its the other way around.
To get rid of Lee you’d have to also give up a first round pick. I think Ellis can bring a mid-first rounder. There should be playoff bubble teams that would give up a #1 for him. If he can’t start, he’d still be productive off their bench.
I think we would be best served looking at a trade, rather than the draft
draft…just too risky (and I don’t trust our FO to make the best decisions)
at least with a trade or two, we can try and upgrade a position or two.
The way I see is that we are stuck with Lee (which I’m sorta ok with). So just look for the best package around either Steph or Monta first, knowing that you may need to include a few of our young guys.
The problem with trying to trade Steph for an immediate talent upgrade is salary…So my guess is that Monta may actually be the one to go
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