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I think this could be a great trade for us, because Monta Ellis is undersized, and his dominant attitude leads to him taking a ton of shots per game, therefore impeding the development of Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson by taking away possessions from them. We would in turn get Derozan, a 6'7" future beast who has a ton of potential and Barbossa, who could be a good backup PG.

Hopefully, we would retain our top 7 pick in the draft and have an amazing core three potential future all stars in Curry, Derozan, and Gilchrist/Barnes/Perry Jones, a beast Center in Jeremy Tyler, and some very solid players in Klay, Rush, Jenkins.

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Dont feel bad for him

At the end of the day, he’s still making over 10 million dollars a year.

we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.

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by ClipperBEAST on Jan 30, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

We would win in this trade. toronto would...iono

derozan is their upcoming star and I actually like him alot.

However, I think toronto will want more. They really want a big too. So…we can give em Kwame haha

curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.

by bimmercirem3 on Jan 30, 2012 7:27 PM PST reply actions  

thatd be sweet

but wed have to make the cap situation work. Maybe we could throw in David Lee and Udoh or Dorell for a bad contract like Jose Calderon and their first round pick; doubt they would do that tho

by Lam1234 on Jan 30, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I like this trade

TOR gets a marketable player, and the best player in the deal. DeRozan is having a horrible season, but he is young. And we will probably get to keep our pick.

But, would TOR want the extra year that Monta brings?

by dsham001 on Jan 30, 2012 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

I see Monta is the scapegoat. This is about the 4th Monta trade proposal I’ve seen today. What about the Curry trade proposals? Hate to break it to you but its more likely SC30 is gonna get moved before Monta.

by J-RIDAH on Jan 30, 2012 8:42 PM PST reply actions  

Hate to break it to you but its more likely SC30 is gonna get moved before Monta.

it’s really not

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
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by bigkino217 on Jan 30, 2012 8:52 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

not rly curry is cheaper, smarter, makes better plays, scores more efficiently, etc, and hes definitely not as selfish

by Lam1234 on Jan 30, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I think it is mainly the "cheaper" part make people like Curry more than Monta

Imagine Monta is $4mil a year, Curry at $11mil a year, people will love Monta to death.

This is the part I don’t understand why GSoM people so care about Lacob’s money. All I care is getting good players onboard, at any cost. Money is not a concern, right? Lacob?

by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Jan 30, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it is mainly the “cheaper” part make people like Curry more than Monta

I think it might have to do with the discrepancy in efficiency. you know…something that actually helps win games.

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Jan 30, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

it also helps that when monta wasnt on the floor

curry seemed to play way better and make his team better. (ahhh that rookie year)

curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.

by bimmercirem3 on Jan 30, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

All I care is getting good players onboard, at any cost. Money is not a concern, right? Lacob?

do you not understand the salary cap system? you can’t just keep signing people for as much money as you want.

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Jan 30, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, I understand. But this is not Cosco, looking for the best possible deal. If that’s what we want, then Warriors will always be the same team years to come.

by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Jan 30, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

If that’s what we want, then Warriors will always be the same team years to come.

Uh… It’s because the Warriors usually aren’t looking for the best possible deal that they’re the same crappy team for the better part of the last two decades. They give out horrid contracts. They’ve drafted poorly. They constantly hold onto bad, unproductive players for years and sell low at the wrong times, yet they let productive players go for almost nothing.

by WYK on Jan 30, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

... it's actually probably the reason why we can't move curry

is because with Curry at 4 million a year we’ll never get equal value at all unless we package him with someone else, and yet the only reasonable package is with Biedrins who overall lowers his trade value.

If Curry was at 11 million I’d expect it to be easier to unload Curry because 11 million flat for 2 years is still cheap for a young guard with great potential, an amazing shot, and great efficiency (not to mention he can create for himself). The trade offers would actually make sense salary wise and trades like Noah for Curry would be more likely since both would gain something (wheras Monta for Noah Monta isn’t as good). With Curry’s contract right now he can really only be traded for other rookies even though his value is way beyond htat.

If Monta was at 4 million I’d expect him to be easy to move too but not as easy because for 25 6 at 4 million I don’t care about his efficiency thats good, and you’ll never get equal value if salaries match.

by Nith on Jan 30, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Curry, DW and Klay would have enough money to likely get us something

And a really nice deal

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by dubzfan on Jan 30, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

What about the Curry trade proposals?

Curry + Lee for Millsap + Harris

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

(JaVale) Mcgee is better than anybody in this draft.

by Evanz on Jan 31, 2012 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Yuck, do not want. Unless Curry’s ankle really is permanently thrashed.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Jan 31, 2012 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

read somewhere that his ankle is still hurting and he doesn't think the rest helped it at all.

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Jan 31, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry

but i dont see how thats a good trade at all.

by A's Nation on Jan 30, 2012 9:19 PM PST reply actions  

its a good trade because toronto gets a “superstar” in monta ellis

meanwhile, the warriors, a mediocre team, can potentially escape the cycle of mediocrity by trading monta, a player who looks statistically good but hurts the team chemistry, for DeMar, a player who could potentially become a superstar and has drawn comparisons to Kobe and Vince Carter.

Initially, DeMar might not play as well as Ellis, which is why Toronto would take this trade. However, but in a few years he could become our star because of his huge athletic potential, his youth, and his work ethic. Meanwhile, we would have a better chance of retaining a top 7 pick in a draft loaded with talent.

We could eventually become a team like the Thunder

by Lam1234 on Jan 30, 2012 10:30 PM PST reply actions  

Trading Monta won't get us out of mediocrity

To do that the entire core of the team must go. That includes Lee and Curry and Andris

RIP Al Davis
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by dubzfan on Jan 30, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we can keep Curry, but I would definitely everyone else go, especially Lee and his huge contract

by Lam1234 on Jan 30, 2012 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

why would we want to get rid of curry just to start over

any draft pick we make may or may not be as good as curry. why get rid of him when he is the only sure fire thing we have?

by ekpeudoh20 on Jan 31, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

So we are going to offer up our best player, who’s shown the ability to multiple things well even surrounded by average to terrible players. We know Ellis can score at will but he is showing the ability to distribute, which is what soooo many people have complained about. His defense is still subject but with Rush now, Ellis doesn’t have to guard the Kobe’s and LeBron’s of the world,

Here is my concern, we’re basing this trade on A) cap space from Barbosa leaving. B) DeRozen turning from a 38% shooter a terrible three point shooter, a guy who doesn’t pass ever (less than 2 assist per game) and doesn’t rebound especially well for someone 6’7" to turn into Kobe Bryant or Vince Carter. And C) to excellerate the tank machine.

If we are going to push Ellis out, we should push Biendrins with him.

Ellis/ Biedrins/ D Wright for DeRozen/Calderon/Barbosa

by A's Nation on Jan 31, 2012 12:38 AM PST reply actions  

We could even thrown in our 2nd from the Nets which should be top 35, and Calderon would be flipped to whomever

by A's Nation on Jan 31, 2012 12:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t really think a trade with the Raptors is a very good idea but IF we could get rid of AB for Calderson since were giving away Ellis for nothing, then we could lose a terrible contract and Calderon has value and has been linked to the Lakers, Knicks and some other teams.

Barbosa is having a good season but he is nothing more than an expiring contract and sometimes i think people forget that trades in basketball are made from a financial stand point and not always for name value.

So to answer the question…We trade for 3 guards, Calderon is repackage and Barbosa expires so we end up with 1 guard and whatever we receive for Calderon and we save $20 million or so in the process.

by A's Nation on Jan 31, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

and we save $20 million or so in the process

do “we” get any of that 20 mil? That could go a long ways in gaining my support for the trade.

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Here we are again.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 31, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Derozan even better than Rush?

by J-RIDAH on Jan 31, 2012 9:12 AM PST reply actions  

saying derozan is as good as rush is like comparing anthony davis to biyombo or saying that there is “No difference maker in this 2012 draft” … lol

by Lam1234 on Jan 31, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

meh

I’d much rather get a big man.
I’m actually ok with the progression of Klay, not sure we need another wing (unless you think DeRozan is our long term answer at the 2 or 3…Barbosa, woulda been interested 5 years ago

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 31, 2012 9:39 AM PST reply actions  

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