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NOTE: This is an ESPN Insider article. However, one of the 5 suggested trades involves the Warriors dealing Monta Ellis to Portland. Here's the details:

"Portland Trail Blazers - Current TR championship odds: 3.7 percent

TeamRankings.com's Power Ratings have Portland as the third-best team in the West, making them dark horse contenders as is. LaMarcus Aldridge is a bona fide star, but could use some consistent scoring help from the wings. Jamal Crawford was brought in to do that, but his 36.1 FG percentage does far more harm than good.

Needs: Brandon Roy and Greg Oden are clearly missed, because the Blazers' biggest holes are consistent wing scoring and a young big man. Marcus Camby still provides strong defense down low, though, so getting an offensive upgrade at shooting guard might be more important.

Assets: Wesley Matthews and Nic Batum are above-average youngsters who could fit in on many teams.

The trade: Matthews and Camby to Golden State for Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins

This is a downgrade at center and a worse contract for Portland. To give itself a realistic chance to win, however, Portland needs to take a risk on somebody like Ellis. A little shot-selection coaching and some encouraging on the defensive end would really improve his game, and he has much more scoring talent than Matthews or even Crawford. This trade builds a team that can push the pace with small ball, something with which it already has success.

Ray Allen and J.J. Redick could also add the kind of offense the Trail Blazers need." - Austin Link, ESPN

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Rather have Batum.

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by SmittytheCutman on Jan 31, 2012 3:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I wouldn't mind either Matthews or Batum

Batum’s length gives him an edge because of defense, but I’ve always liked Matthews’ game and would fit nicely at the 2, still allowing Rush to come off the bench

Totally down with Camby. He may be old but he’s been playing really well lately, huge improvement from Biedrins.

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by lameallenmark on Jan 31, 2012 3:59 PM PST reply actions  

I'd do this in a heart beat

Makes us a much more well rounded team. Better on the defensive end too. Doing this trade puts our trust completely in Currys hands though. Not saying it’s the wrong move, but risky.

I’m digging Cambys expiring contract too whilst we get rid of 2 players making 10mil a season for the next 2-3 years.

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by Potential on Jan 31, 2012 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

My hope is to see an offense that’s not completely in anyone’s hands…

by Missing Barry on Jan 31, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

...

Camby is 80 years old.

by Brandonhaha on Jan 31, 2012 4:17 PM PST reply actions  

sounds good to me

this is just some writers opinion, but I’d me more than happy to flip monta and beans for Wes…

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 31, 2012 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

haha

Portland would be insane to do that deal! Who wrote this crap?

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

(JaVale) Mcgee is better than anybody in this draft.

by Evanz on Jan 31, 2012 4:54 PM PST reply actions  

Paul Allen is crazy

Would be the first reason I could think of.

A Sonics fan without a team... but after 7 seasons now of GS Warriors season tickets have convinced me to adopt the boys from Oakland.

by mcwalter44 on Feb 1, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

matthews would be a pipe dream

It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(

by j-spliff415 on Jan 31, 2012 5:24 PM PST reply actions  

how is dumb for us exactly?

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

(JaVale) Mcgee is better than anybody in this draft.

by Evanz on Jan 31, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

this

i also do not see how this is dumb for us

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Jan 31, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

well, if you're on the tank wagon

I think Camby and Batum in our starting lineup guarantees we don’t keep out pick this year, yet doesn’t make the team good enough to be considered a legitimate title contender.

by Juicy Jay on Jan 31, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

it does clear out some bad contracts though

and it’s likely we won’t keep our pick with the current roster also.

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Jan 31, 2012 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That's true, would be nice to clear the beans contract...

The only reason I would say no is that I worry that if the team did improve enough to snag an 8 seed the ownership would pat themselves on the back for doing what they said they would instead of feel pressure to keep improving

by Juicy Jay on Jan 31, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not worried about that. I truly believe the ownership wants to build a contender, and knows the 8th seed isn’t the goal.

by Missing Barry on Jan 31, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It's true, Monta is my favorite Warriors

But at the end of the day I’m a Ws fan. I bought my ticket for the tank train a long time ago, I just wanna see them stockpile some picks and try to become relevant by having more chances to luck into a superstar. Marcus Camby and Nicholas Batum or Wesley Matthews are not that. I’m saying they make this team enough better that they guarantee we lose our pick this year, but not good enough to be relevant.

by Juicy Jay on Jan 31, 2012 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm also a Stephen Curry fan.

and an Andris Biedrins fan. And a David Lee fan. And interestingly enough, a Wesley Mathews fan. But none of that matters to you.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Jan 31, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

an Andris Biedrins fan.

ew

by tafkasam on Jan 31, 2012 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

do you cheer when he scores?

or blocks a shot?

if so, you’re gross too lol

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by Brownie13 on Jan 31, 2012 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha, +1....here's me

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 1, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

lol

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by Brownie13 on Feb 1, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

here's another good one

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 1, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Matthews is a good player to fit into a well put-together team.

We aren’t that. A lot of his value is lost coming here, as he’ll be forced to handle the ball more, and he’s not really a play-maker. Obviously he has the size, strength and defense at the 2 that Monta does not, but he’s much better fit on a team like Portland, which has a player that functions as a true point guard, as well as a legitimate post up threat and Gerald Wallace (whatever kind of offensive weapon you call him, kind of too versatile for me to give him a label really). We’re really no better on the offensive end of the floor anywhere but point guard, but even there, you kind of lose some ball-handling, which I already said, would hurt us.

I guess I’m not really looking at it as a way to dump Biedrins, but I wouldn’t trade Monta for Mathews heads up, and I don’t see how it moves us in the right direction at all, so losing the Biedrins contract wouldn’t help us that much anyway.

Basically, Mathews is a good starting SG. Not necessarily a difference-maker anywhere on the court. Monta, however, is a play-maker on a regular basis. I think he’s significantly more valuable to us than a guy like Mathews.

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by Brownie13 on Jan 31, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Talk about a rip off

People write these scenarios that are so one sided. The Warriors wouldn’t touch this trade. Substitute Batum for Matthews and maybe that’s a conversation starter.

by Slightly Hyphy on Jan 31, 2012 6:49 PM PST reply actions  

how is it one sided?

we dump beans’ contract and get a more efficient scorer than monta…

oh i see now, one-sided for the warriors

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Jan 31, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess you're not on the tank wagon

What I see is getting rid of 2 of our 3 biggest contracts for a young player and an expiring contract… Thats exactly what you’re supposed to do as a tank.

by Nith on Jan 31, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Except the problem is that expiring is actually a solid player that fills a position of need. Out with Camby in with Felton?!?!…?

by Missing Barry on Jan 31, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Matthews is less than a year younger than Monta…where exactly is this “young player?”

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Jan 31, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Talk about a rip off

For Portland.

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Jan 31, 2012 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

If we were forced to deal with them

I’d actually prefer Matthews, not Batum.

Batum has “potential,” but Matthews has shown he’s good enough to contribute positively in a number of ways. He’s the kind of player that always tends to bring positive value to a team, even on a bad shooting night. He’s not going to be a star, or a play-maker, but he’s a smart starting SG who can a little of everything.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Jan 31, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Camby

has made it clear he would retire before playing for anyone not contending. So this trade would be the gentleman’s agreement to buy-out or cut Camby, and he resigns with the Blazers, and we would be benefiting by acquiring Matthews and also losing Beins…but Ellis is better than Matthews, so that’s why we do this.

by A's Nation on Jan 31, 2012 8:21 PM PST reply actions  

I'm with you on this

Camby would be a buyout candidate. So really your giving up 20 million dollars in 12-13 and other 20 million in 13-14 (though both are player options) in return for 3 years of control of Mathews at 6.5, 6.0 and 7.3 million through 14-15 season plug whatever buyout you get Camby to agree to.

Hell just losing one season of Beans and Monta covers Mathews and Camby should cost us too much since this type of deal wouldn’t happen until the deadline.

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by mcwalter44 on Feb 1, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

We should have traded Ellis and Curry for expirings, young talent and or picks

After Curry’s rookie year. Sure Curry may have a reoccurring ankle problem like he does now but we would have other young players, maybe more picks and a better salary future anyway. Either way the team isn’t going to be a contender for a few more years at least. We should have just pulled the band-aid off fast but instead we are pulling it off slowly and painfully.

by brutusbrutus on Feb 1, 2012 1:21 AM PST reply actions  

Do these salaries work?

Camby and Mathews are like $17.5 mil combined. Biedrins and Monta are $20 mil combined.

by Cali-Orange on Feb 9, 2012 3:22 PM PST reply actions  

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