Warriors pursue Dwight Howard 1/5/12
by amerikmasters on Jan 5, 2012 12:57 PM PST
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Adrian Wojnarowski on Yahoo Sports posted an article about the Warriors being very aggressive in getting Howard from the Magic. Here is the link:
Maybe after last nights reoccurring injury to Curry had them realize that the time is now to trade him and bring in a Super Star. I like Curry and do not want to see either Ellis or him go but at 2-4 and the promise of reaching the playoffs, maybe reality set in.
But lets all be honest, some players are not reaching the expectations that we all had. Dorell and Klay have not provided offense and I hardly see Biedrins on the court.
Keep in mind that this will be a one season rental for Howard which GSW hopes to convince to stay long term. But then again, I find myself expecting Curry to get injuried when I watch the games which is not cool. Maybe it really is time to at least be open minded to a trade.
WOULD YOU DO THIS TRADE? WHAT PACKAGE WOULD YOU SEND THE MAGIC'S FOR HOWARD?
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I would offer
Magic would get
Curry
Klay
Tyler
Udoh
maybe a future pick
Warriors would get:
Howard
Turkolu
I know its a lot to lose but Howard is a star and rare plus young
Yes, I agree
It hurt me deeply when we traded Gordon for CP3, but I realized that we are so better off with CP3 rather than Gordon. Trading Curry will probably break the dubs fans hearts, but realize this, you’re getting a superstar in return.
we’re cheap, like to drink and are pissed off.
WHO WANTS A FREE SHARPIE?? -- Blake Griffin
you’re getting a superstar in return.
for half of one (shortened) season….yay
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
hmmm....how's that working out for the Nyets, again?
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 6, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, and we would have what? A three month window to get said better players?
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
by qin on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
I have to think that our fan base differentiates us from NJ. Also, as far as legitimacy in the NBA, Jerry West >>> Jay-Z
Jay Z is more appealing then Jerry West
1 is an old white guy who is to old for this generation to really know , the other is a hugely popular rapper… Not a contest
RIP Al Davis
1 is an old white guy who is to old for this generation to really know , the other is a hugely popular rapper… Not a contest
One is an NBA GREAT
the other is a rapper.
hmmmmmm ya the rapper definetly has more legitimacy in the NBA lol.
by gswarriors12 on Jan 7, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
hmmmmmm ya the rapper definetly has more legitimacy in the NBA lol.
cause it’s a time/space continuum
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 7, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Ya but think about this generation
Jay Z and everything that comes with him is probably more attractive then a somewhat bitter Legend of 40+ years ago
RIP Al Davis
worst part would be getting turkolu
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
agreed
Turkolu is wack but we can amnesty him next year at least.
by amerikmasters on Jan 5, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
How? We already used our amnesty on Bell, and even if we did still have it, I’m not sure you can amnesty a player you obtained in a trade.
Even if we had it we couldn't amnesty any player acquired past a certain date.
Which already past so there is no way we could’ve theoretically amnestied Turkey-Glue.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
But we could've amnestied Beans or something
With Dwight, we’ll basically have two highly paid players playing the same position
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Agreed. The Bell decision was horrendous.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
I know its a lot to lose
That’s not that much to lose. Curry plus a bunch of stuff? If we can get an extension, it’s an absolute no-brainer. Even without no promise of an extension, I’d consider it. Obviously Curry is a valuable player, so it would depend on how likely we think an extension is.
Basically, our whole team for Dwight Howard with a contract extension is an absolute steal for us.
There will be no extra point!
Woj is saying that the Dubs are willing to go all in without an extension in place
Golden State management is willing to take Howard as a one-season "rental," with the hope of selling him on signing a long-term deal before he enters free agency this summer.
this has me crapping my pants.
no question that it takes us some future 1st round pikc, PLUS Curry, plus whatever the hell else the Magic want, AND we almost certainly are bringing Hedo along too
I’m not excited.
But this to me is no big news…yeah, we called and said we want Dwight, you can have anything…
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
We cant offer any picks until we loose the one thats in limbo right?
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
by qin on Jan 5, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
So let's get this straight.
We will have DH this year and watch him bolt then have no starters or draft pics for the next few years?
Well that’s one way to blow up the team.
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
by qin on Jan 5, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
exactly
…still excited about this?
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
I was all for giving up the pick last year, like pulling the band-aid off real quick like but the deep draft that’s coming up makes me want to prolong the pain a little longer.
I would rather get more picks right now then less.
sigh…
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
by qin on Jan 6, 2012 6:27 AM PST up reply actions
Well...
The team eventually has to be blown up or big moves have to be made because I honestly don’t see this roster as champion caliber. I don’t even see playoffs in the near future, but it’s not everyday you get a chance for a superstar to potentially attract other free agents. But when you break it down I’m not exactly a 100% sure I’d support it just yet. I guess I’m more interested in who we trade and how our cap room looks if Dwight joins then leaves the following season.
I would offer
the whole team plus lacob, goober, jackson and everyone else emplyed by the warriors except barnett and jamie sire.
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 5, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
I would offer
seriously though does it hafta be binky? He’s at his lowest value right now . I’d try to get them to take Montay and Dre plus who ever they wanted out of Klay, Udon, etc. The parts I’d want to keep to go with DHo would be Binky, DoorL, and what ever I could later get for DLee.
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 5, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
This is a great way for the FO to move towards a total rebuild without fan complaint.
Give away our best "good "players for Howard who will leave in a few months then the fans with applaud the “attempt” to get a superstar and not complain about the rebuild….oh wait a minute ..they plan to give away the next available first round pick as well!
by Only In Fairfax on Jan 5, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions
Its ok
We can get BWright, Anthony Randolph, Udoh, Biedrins, Arenas etc back in free agency. This organization does not need draft picks, it needs a dominant center.
i agree
we should have traded curry for Dwight before all these ankle issues. but thats in the past now.
magic get:
Curry
beans
klay
future 1st round pick
Warriors get:
howard
turkolu
our starting 5:
nate/jenkins
monta/rush
turk/wright/mcguire
lee/tyler
dwight/brown
give them udoh instead of klay
monta/jenkins
klay/rush
wright/mcguire/turk
lee/tyler
dwight/brown
weakest spot would be the three spot…
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
forgot about
Udoh,
i agreed. package Udoh instead of Klay.
WHAT?!?!
weakest spot would be the three two spot…
Klay SUCKS so far. He sucks. Not good. Barely end-of-rotation quality. Certainly not a starter
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Klay is terrible so far
I agree, Klay is a bust to me so far. He looks lost on the court.
by amerikmasters on Jan 5, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Klay is not a bust ,just not the best player that we could have picked..
…Like Markief for example.
by Only In Fairfax on Jan 5, 2012 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
dude is a rookie and is improving; give him time
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously...
6 games into the season (keep in mind there was no summer league) and people already labeling Klay a bust? Last night’s game in San Antonio showed the shooter he can be. If by the end of the season he is still bricking all his shots we can label him a bust.
We Believe 2012
exactly
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
word
I did say “so far”
I’m not drawing conclusions…but I’m…concerned
Also, I assumed we were talking about right now (since D12 would essentially be a rental for the rest of this year)
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn’t look that bad to me, honestly. Looks like he knows what he is doing on the court, and expects his shot to go in though it isn’t. I think it is clear he could have used some Summer League, preseason, and working with Warriors trainers, but that can’t be put on him with the lockout.
Tossing him in for Howard with an extension though is a no brainer. Tossing him in for Dwight without an extension…it’s not that I think he’s untouchable but we need SOMETHING to convince Howard to stay, otherwise we are left without Curry/Thompson/Udoh/whoever else we trade, as well as our first round pick this year and next year. At least with Thompson you can play the “potential” card to Howard.
Scurred
am I the only one who thinks Klay Thompson looks absolutely scared out there? His body language/posture looks downright uncomfortable. If that is natural then boy does he look awkward on the court as an NBA player…
I would give Orlando pretty much anything they wanted
They can have my sisters, my car, my pants, your pants, your mom…ANYTHING.
GET IT DONE.
If we’re going to lose D. Ho after one year, so be it. We’re going to have to pretty much rebuild then anyway – at least we’d be respectable for a year. We’re facing a pretty tough season anyway. Might as well take a shot. What have we got to lose?
(please don’t trade Monta. please don’t trade Monta. please don’t trade Monta. but i undestand if we have to)
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
gah!!
We’re going to have to pretty much rebuild then anyway – at least we’d be respectable for a year.
only problem though is that we just blew our whole wad on a rental of Howard. Just look at how much money we’d have tied up in Hedo and Lee for the next few years…plus no Steph, very little exciting young talent, and probably lost a 1st round pick as well….that’s no rebuild, that’s a train wreck
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
OH, I totally take this back, btw
I’m not a GM, but personally I see no way to keep Dwight Howard after this season. So I say "no’ to giving up some great pieces of our future for a couple of months with Dwight Howard.
But the effort alone to get him signals that Golden State is at least trying to enter the boss player realm. I love the attack, FO. Stay on the hunt.
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 6, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
That is all this is about so fans dont grumble about the FO doing nothing..its all a perception enhancement play.
But the effort alone to get him signals that Golden State is at least trying to enter the boss player realm. I love the attack, FO. Stay on the hunt.
Working already I agree.
by Only In Fairfax on Jan 7, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
The Warriors would have to have enough cap space to absorb Turko's 3yr/$34MM??
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
i think they would reach tax level with howard and turk
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
We could have amnestied Biedrins or Lee...
Every time I think of that, I cringe.
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
True
They wasted it on Bell’s 4 million instead of Beans. I guess we will see who gets amnestied next season
by amerikmasters on Jan 5, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
It’s not one amnesty per season. It’s one for the duration of the CBA and can only be used on players signed during the previous CBA, and we used it on Bell already =(
by bObaBaLLa on Jan 5, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
there was no way the warriors would cut lee and still pay tens of millions of dollars just to pay someone who is not as good as him to play.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
yeah
It would have been awesome if we could amnesty the salary, but keep the player
..you know, for those guys who are good, but overpaid (David Lee, Rashard Lewis, Joe Johnson, I’m looking at you)
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Was there a rule that you couldn't re-sign an amnestied player?
Curious.
We could have amnestied Lee then re-sign him at what the market really could bear for him, which is probably less the the $80M we signed him for.
Of course you would have run the risk of your amenstied player getting signed somewhere else, but at least you would have been able to make an impact to your cap.
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
there was (I think)
a provision to prevent exactly this
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
so amensty him just to pay him more money?
amnesty clause does not mean the warriors do not pay his original contract, it just means it does not count against the salary cap. So why amnesty a player just to pay him even more money? Does not make sense.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
salary cap room!!!
he may cost more overall, but the effect on our cap is diminished
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
OK, I gotcha now
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
I don't
Look at the way Biedrins has played so far this season? Not able to stay out there for prolonged periods, but pretty damn good while he’s been out there. A 7 footer who still has a little potential, and can be effective for 20-25 minutes? That’s probably an $8M player. So, to get what we had in Andris if we amnestied him, we’d have to spend $6-8M, probably more than that since FA’s don’t come here unless they’re overpaid. Amnesty would have saved us little money or come at the cost of having any depth at center.
Same can be said for Lee, who besides Monta, has at least been able to keep the offense going. I think his energy and hustle would be extremely effective next to a big that commands respect. Are there scoring power forwards who can rebound that can be signed for under $10M? Doubt it, so the savings from the amnesty come out to less than $4M – which is what we saved by amnestying Bell.
by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Jan 6, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
i would....
Trade anyone on the roster Except Monta of course…Just saying hahah
I would trade EVERYONE on the roster except Monta.
Seriously. 14 players for Dwight Howard and Turko. We’ll just roll with Monta, D. Ho and Turko this year.
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
d-league players and call it a team.
curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.
worked last time
I kinda miss the D league all stars
those were some good times
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
HELL YEAH
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
ya, how many championships does don magic juan nelson have?
last I checked was zero but I may be wrong.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
Right now, I'd take some good times
in lieu of an honest Championship run.
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Dream scenario
Trade the house for Dwight. Finish bottom seven this year. Sign Deron Williams over the summer. Dwight extends. Build around Dwight, Deron, and the top seven pick. Proceed to dominate for a decade.
That would be an awesome scenario
I haven’t thought of D Will leaving the Nets but why not. I just don’t understand why star player do not consider the bay area a nice destination.
by amerikmasters on Jan 5, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Not enough night clubs
While you sit here typing some witty response, Bruce Bochy, world champion, is smiling from above.
Does Dwight stay if we are bottom 7 though? And can we get bottom 7 f we have him (without getting impossibly lucky in the lottery)?
Sshhh
it’s a dream. it doesn’t need logic.
Good thing
we don’t have an amnesty to use if we were to acquire Hedo, or use on someone like Biens so we could absorb Hedo…
What are you talking about?
It’s not Vegas or Hollywood and there’s no Miami Beach, but the Bay Area is not Souteastern Outer Mongolia. We are not in podunk.
What the F is it with people?
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
hahaha
you must not have been around during the offseason
here
there is one guy who made it a personal crusade to point out that the Dubs are not a premier destination (no big surprise there)…but the kicker is that the biggest factor (besides money) is apparently the fact the the Bay Area club scene sucks
has kinda become a meme around here
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Oh ok
thanks for clearing that up. (i was around during the offseason though. under my other screen name)
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
please tell me
your old screen name was Pooty Tang
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
haha no
it’s not my old name, just a second name. i still use it
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
re: just a second name. i still use it
WTF?!?!
why would you do this?
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know about that
there’s a pretty sizable Turkish community in the Bay. Anyone remember the preseason game against FS Pielsen from five years ago? There were a lot of Turkish flags at that game.
by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Jan 6, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
What about
We trade everything we can for Howard except Monta. After a few months of having Howard and if there are signs he wont stay long term then I would trade Howard for Bynum or some other star at the trade deadline.
I think
there is a rule in the CBA that won’t allow trading a newly acquired player for a certain amount of time…
for this reason I am sure we cannot trade most of our rookies (not sure) but for sure we cannot trade Ish Smith, Nate Robinson, Brandon Rush, Dom Mcguire
Sigh
This is the exact situation I did NOT want happening. And of course we already used our amnesty. OF COURSE WE USED OUR AMNESTY ON AN EXPIRING CONTRACT. This front office is a joke. The trade package will have to be more than Curry, Udoh and a bunch of scrubs, by the way, because once again, CURRY INJURED HIS ANKLE AND LOWERED HIS TRADE VALUE.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Ankle injuries
arnt that big of a deal. Totally different than knees…
Curry still has insane trade value, however the amnesty was wasted big time and there isn’t any way to prove it was not…
The problem is that he has injured the ankle several times
He basically has the “injury-prone” label on him now, fair or not.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
Ankle injuries aren't a big deal...
When you don’t hurt it 3 teams in only 6 games in. Also the fact he can roll his ankle just by playing defense (backing up) is a somewhat a cause of concern, personally.
What do you want from the FO?
How many times will you bitch and moan about this? What should they have done differently? What free agents were out there? What great players were available for trade? Should Curry just be permanently benched to save his ankles? Does that help our team on the court or the trade value?
Yes, we have had some terrible.. a lot of terrible front office decisions in the past 15 years, but the last year has been a lot of moves that almost seem to make sense and help position us for the future.
by Ice Watter In His Veins! on Jan 6, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Probably going to be a 3 team trade
and help facilitate this…I doubt the Magic would want Big Baby, Ryan Anderson, Epke Udoh, Jeremy Tyler, David Lee and Daniel Orton all at the 4 spot.
warriors could keep lee, doubt they would want tyler
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
the hidden factor in all of this
is the Dubs’ potential move to China Basin in 5 years, and how that motivates the direction FO takes in the future. Also, DH12 listed Monta as a player he would love to play with, right?Even if Howard leaves after the season, it’s money off the books. I for one do not see a contender in this current team. We need to overhaul this mug and draft better, or stay on the “treadmill of mediocrity”.
IF we do this we won’t be in the draft for a few years.
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
by qin on Jan 5, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
How?
It’s not like were trading picks here
If he leaves the roster sucks enough to get a top pick (It’d be Monta vs Everyone)
RIP Al Davis
I think what he means is that
Jazz get this draft pick (assuming we are good with Dwight fricken Howard), and we would need to include some subsequent pick(s) to make the deal go through with the Magic
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
YAP!! (as my parrot would say).
"If God made us in his image then he must be dumb too, and a little ugly on the side."
Frank Zappa
by qin on Jan 6, 2012 6:32 AM PST up reply actions
"Warriors pursue Dwight Howard"
And I’m pursuing a magic potion that lets me eat as much cheese as I want without getting fat. (I’d trade Curry, Udoh, and a future #1 for it.)
Formerly ffgolden.
You don’t have a future #1 to trade.
So you get a value-engineered version of the potion that allows you to eat as much cheese as you want, but get fat. :-)
There will be no extra point!
i love cheese also!
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pursuing a magic potion that lets me eat as much cheese as I want without getting fat.
it’s simple, just buy bad tasting cheese.
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 5, 2012 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
slow down
you are giving up on Klay far too soon here. I mean, he’s had six games in the NBA, and you’re already saying he’s never met expectations?
if its costs Curry tho to get Dwight for one season, I say do it. The great thing about D12 is that his ego is never an issue when it comes to trades and new locations – I honestly think he wants to choose a place where he can win the most, not a place where his millions can be spent on boats, clubs, and nightlife
It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(
reminded of this
millions can be spent on boats and *, clubs, and nightlife
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
you are giving up on Klay far too soon here. I mean, he’s had six games in the NBA, and you’re already saying he’s never met expectations?
expectations are he’ll never be good as DHo so he has met them so far.
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 5, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldn't this be something if it happened.
The two players (Paul and Howard) that the Lakers were going after end up with historically awful division foes.
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by dont_stop_believin' on Jan 5, 2012 4:08 PM PST reply actions
Might be the dumbest thing I'll say all year.
But how about a 3 way trade?
Chicago gets Monta Ellis, Beans.
Orlando gets Stephen Curry, Udoh and Asik
Warriors get Dwight Howard, Luol Deng, Jameer Nelson.
Jameer Nelson/Jenkins
Klay/Rush
Deng/DWright/McGuire
Lee/Udoh
Howard/Brown
We save ourselves from giving up any 1st rounders and getting Hedo and just pray that Howard resigns with us.
haha
yea…thought so.
Oh well, I’ll just go with the crowd and go with
Curry/Klay/Beans/Future Pick for Howard/Hedo
We don’t have a pick to trade until 2016. I think it’ll be somewhere in the lines of Curry/Klay/Beans/Brown/Wright for Howard/Hedo.
nah
we could work it out somehow…my initial thought is that we would just do “a player to be named later” and then they get whatever pick they want whenever we happen to have our next shot (so 2013)
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 5, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
ellis and beans for deng? and curry and udoh for howard?
like it all except for jameer nelson, need a better point guard but overall that would be a great team.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
More like
Ellis and Beans for Deng and Asik
And then Asik, Curry and Udoh for Howard and Nelson.
Long shot for Bulls and Magic to agree on this though…I just threw it out there because it sounded crazy and fun.
The worst part of this trade rumor
is that it gives the GSW haters are reason to mock the very idea of Dwight Howard going to the Warriors.
Some of the stuff I’ve been reading…. pretty damned disparaging. People simply have the WORST image of the Bay Area and GSW. And on top of that, even most Bay Area people have the WORST image of Oakland.
My God, how did things get this bad and who exactly fucked it up. The Bay is a world-class destination. How many international tourists vacation in in Indiana or Milwuakee? Charlotte? The Bay Area is right up there with Miami, Chicago, NYC and LA.
WHAT THE F!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 4:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
What have you been reading?
You could convince someone were not an Oakland team if you felt like it needed to be explained. Or you could just say were moving to SF , part of NJ’s allure is that they are moving to Brooklyn
RIP Al Davis
Unfortunately, that's a misguided assessment from my POV.
I live in the Bay. Honestly, what does this place have to offer? Yellow and brown mountains? Yippee…
Dude really?
You gotta get out more. The Bay Area has a lot to offer.
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
The Bay Area has a lot to offer.
good enough to host an America’s cup race
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 5, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
I have lived in Boston,Baltimore,Chicago, Memphis,LA, Las Vegas And Hong Kong...
San Francisco and the Bay area is the best.
I live in the Bay. Honestly, what does this place have to offer? Yellow and brown mountains? Yippee…
I fell out of my chair when I saw your comment……you really do need to explore this area more…are you from Texas by any chance?
by Only In Fairfax on Jan 7, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Hedo actually doesn’t look too bad 7 games into the season. 16.1 points, 4.2 rebounds, 5.7 assists per 36 on .610 TS%. Granted, he’s on the wrong side of 30 and his ugly contract escalates as he ages, but production-wise he’s solid so far.
he's kinda like Lee in that way
My biggest knock on Hedo isn’t that he’s an inherently bad player (he’s at least decent) but that contract is nasty
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 6, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
i rather get Dwill instead.
Dwight is great and all. but we got to do what is realistic. lol
What makes DWill any more realistic?
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
by WarriorForLife on Jan 5, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
we trading a good pg for a very good pg with extra players.
I don’t think Dwight will give us any great impact without a true pg running the court. And his value is too high as its already.
Give them everyone but Ellis!
Steph + Klay + Udoh for Howard and Clark!
keep klay give udoh
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Jan 5, 2012 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
Two trade scenarios
Biedrins/Wright/Curry/Udoh/Klay OR Monta/Biedrins/Wright/Udoh/Pick
FOR
Howard/Turkoglu/JRich
Possible Third
Monta/Lee/Biedrins/Pick
For
Howard/Turkoglu/Davis/JRich
Wait, that’s ugly. Ehhh. What’s sad is that Orlando might find that most attractive.
offer
Biedrins/Thompson/Udoh/D.Wright/Jenkins/Tyler or anyone else
for DH12
Big3 Howard/Curry/Ellis
Only trade that Orlando would even consider is
Curry/D. Wright/Udoh/ and Beans plus fillers for Howard and Turkoglu.
Problem with that is we’ll have Monta, Lee, Turkoglu and Dwight Howard at about 45-55 Million a year
if we do this
I would like to give up klaynk and dorell. And make them take D Lee’s big-ass contract if we have to take Turkey-Glues. And I would love to get rid of beans, too. If we could keep Monta and play him at the point with rush at the 2, I would be happy. I think Monta is an allstar this year, I really like the way he has been playing and passing like a PG. And Currys ankle is a bitch and I fuckin hate his late 4th Q lazy, 1 hand passes that lead to turnovers. Plus we need Monta’s clutch. DO IT??!!!!!!!!! I think we could convince D12 to stay if we play good enough!
okay 7 ankle sprains that have made him miss a total of 9 games
and everyone thinks it’s the second coming of greg oden… people need to relax.
You're right
Dwight might actually like it if he came…but he probably won’t come, IMO. Think about it.
1. When have the Warriors been able to lure that kind of free agent? Literally never. If I were in the NBA, I’d want to play here simply for the fans. But for reasons you can come up with on your own, superstar NBA free agents haven’t been coming here, despite the crazy fans. I guess there’s a first time for everything, buuuuut I honestly don’t think this is the year that changes for the Warriors. Hate to sound pessimistic – I’m just being honest.
2. The Warriors are not exactly built for a Championship right now. If the Warriors did manage a trade for Dwight at what would likely be a considerable cost, Dwight is unlikely to want to sign an extension…UNLESS the FO can convince one or more other key pieces to come aboard before he bolts. The likelihood of signing a SECOND top tier free agent is even slimmer than signing the first. (See number one above). I have no reason to believe Dwight would want to stay in GSW.
3. If Curry is part of our proposal, his ankle condition will likely be a factor in Orlando’s final decision. Sad, but true. (I hope Curry gets it taken care of.) Who the hell knows what’s going on with his ankle right now? Maybe the team doctors do, but it seems like nobody really knows. Not even Nike.
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Well he'd have to come and no luring is involved if he's traded, it's just the resigning him part that is tricky
What if we dealt Lee and Andris in a multi team trade? Maybe we could clear some DWill cap…
RIP Al Davis
OK True
I had my reasons just slightly out of order. I hope I made my point though.
"I gots ta say the nay no." - Pootie Tang
by Tremendous Hops on Jan 5, 2012 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
He did mention that he wanted to play with Monta Ellis
but after this off season, it’s hard to believe the front office has the ability to lock up any free agent.
The larger issue is
With Hedo’s contract, we will be a capped out team. Howard has no incentive to stay here, since his contract will eat up the rest of the cap and the Warriors would peak as first or second round fodder.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
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He did mention that he wanted to play with Monta Ellis
maybe he just wants to toss him around a bit?
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 5, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
hahaha
something like this?
"The way I do it is I tell the athletic trainers the instant pain I feel and this is the worst it has been" - Steph Curry on his ankle 1/4/2012
by Duby Dub Dubs on Jan 6, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Warriors need to go all-in for Dwight
Extension or no extension, the Warriors shouldn’t even think twice about sending whatever it takes to get Dwight Howard (most likely a package involving Curry):
Two reasons:
1) The team as presently constructed won’t win the ultimate goal of winning a championship.
This team probably won’t even be a consistent playoff contender. Sure, Curry might develop into another former Warrior that flourishes and becomes a star in a different setting (Vince Carter, Gilbert Arenas, Larry Hughes, among others), but ask yourself this: Can Curry’s ankles hold up? And even if your answer to this question is yes, can the Warriors win with this small backcourt? They haven’t proved that they can so far, and how much time can we afford to give them? In addition, the Warriors haven’t had a defensive presence or quality big man since since…Adonal Foyle.
2) The Warriors need a spark in the worse way.
Lacob and Gruber struck out big time in free agency this summer, settling for the uninspiring Kwame Brown. They need a splash to reinvigorate this franchise and show just how committed they are to winning. The Warriors haven’t been good for awhile, but let’s see the last time they gambled on a disgruntled superstar.
2005: The Warriors traded Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis for Baron Davis. The trade immediately transformed the Warriors: they were no longer the laughingstocks of the league and we actually got some attention: not only the franchise, but our fanbase as well. Yes, Dwight won’t come as cheap and yes, he might bolt after a year, but bringing Dwight to the Bay would leave an indelible print on the team’s history.
After years of watching mismanagement, ineptitude, the underdogs always showing promise yet always falling short, the fan base unleashed emotions bottled up in a thrilling and unforgettable playoff run. We will never forget that. Here, another opportunity presents itself: With this shortened lockout season and wide-open Western Conference, anything could happen. Dwight could make it happen. If the opportunity presents itself, the Warriors need to go all-in.
by Andreees on Jan 5, 2012 10:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
the Warriors haven’t had a defensive presence or quality big man since since…Adonal Foyle.
Younger Andris
RIP Al Davis
Larry Hughes???
Really?
by sorryness_marciulionis on Jan 6, 2012 9:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
If Howard comes he will then leave but the"perception" of the Warriors might change a bit and one playoff year might happen this year....
..and the owners will be applauded for guts and that is what this is about…..kinda like…bomb bad old Germany into oblivion and good democratic Germany emerges out of the ashes. This rabid fan base will hold on but for the next 2/3 years no draft picks and bad contracts….somewhere around 2015 we can start really rebuilding…..all in all probably the best plan.
by Only In Fairfax on Jan 7, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Forget the night clubs
To make dhoward sign an extension, I’ll throw weekly parties here in my trailer home…and I’ll even invite fellow gsom-ers. We can play board games…who likes yahtsee? Or hungry hungry hippos? We can also bake some cookies, watch re-runs of spongebob, the three stooges, and the wonder years. For entertainment we can impress him with the coconut dance – I’ll just need a few volunteers.
by sorryness_marciulionis on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Maybe a Dwight deal is the other direction they were talking about when they didn't sign Fesenko?
"Monta is the MAN." -Bob Fitzgerald
You don't want Dwight as a rental, you want him to stay. It's not worth it to have him as a rental.
It would hurt the team much more in the long term.
It would hurt the team much more in the long term.
haha, like a $1000 hooker you had 30 years ago and now wonder if it was worth the memories?
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 7, 2012 9:25 AM PST reply actions
so far on the Orlando fan site are fans saying they would want Curry over Bynum
did they say anything about Montay over bynum or curry?
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Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 7, 2012 2:34 PM PST reply actions
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