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Warriors Recap #25: Golden State Warriors 102 vs Phoenix Suns 96 - Dubs Win Three Straight, Continue to Play With Our Emotions

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I don't suppose that we should be surprised to see our Warriors right on the outer edge of the playoff picture once again, because after all, that is kinda their specialty. The worst part about loving a team like this one is that there are bound to be stretches that have you dreaming about rebuilding and high draft picks, and stretches that, despite your better judgment and the warnings of your oft-disappointed heart, allow you to - just maybe - start to believe that there might be a postseason appearance in their future. But after all these ups and downs, what are we left with? Another Warriors team with too much talent to land a high draft choice, not enough talent to contend for anything, and no clear path to make any significant improvements to the roster. Is it time for drastic measures? Maybe... but let's not get ahead of ourselves. We've got a game to talk about after all.

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Early Struggles

The fist half of last night's game presented plenty of challenges to the Warriors. Nothing seemed to be working on the offensive end of the floor (37% FG for the first half), meanwhile the Suns were just picking apart the Warrior defense with Steve Nash and Marcin Gortat working the pick and roll to perfection. To my eye there were two main factors that kept the Dubs in this game early:

Poor Outside Shooting - First, the Warriors were very lucky that the three ball was not falling for anyone in a Suns uniform. Sure, they did a pretty good job of closing out, but there were plenty of open shots that just didn't go. Under normal circumstances you can't expect Frye to go 1-8 from deep, and let's face it, if those shots fall like they usually do the Warriors are buried early in this one.

Offensive Rebounding - The second factor was a very surprising performance on the offensive glass that helped Golden State earn the extra possessions necessary to get up 51 shots in the first half. It was great to see everyone get involved with five players finishing with two or more offensive rebounds.

Second Half Resurgence

Since it worked so well in summing up the first half, I'll go ahead an oversimplify what happened in the second half while I'm at it. I think we can overlook some of the finer points and say that the second half also boiled down to to major factors:

David Lee - With the rest of the roster struggling to score, Lee got aggressive in the third quarter and started to assert himself on the offensive end. He put up 15 third quarter points on a gaudy 7-8 shooting, and continued to clean the glass, finishing the game with 28pts 12reb 3ast 1blk 1stl.

Ekpe Udoh - Udoh was the Yin to Lee's Yang tonight, as he came in a changed the game on the defensive end of the floor in the second half. He entered the game late in the third and spurred the Warriors run that earned them the lead for the first time since the 1st quarter, and they wouldn't look back. Ekpe swatted away three shots and challenged many, many more, but he wasn't completely one dimensional, as he score some very key buckets including a late game hook shot that helped secure the victory.

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Ekpe Udoh

Honestly, I was going to give this to Udoh even before that last hook shot in the lane. He changes the entire tone of the game when he steps out on the floor, and suddenly there are no easy looks in the paint for opposing teams. It may not show up in the box score, but Udoh's second half play is what swung this game in the Warriors favor.

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Warrior wonder: Ekpe Udoh

Or should it be Warrior Blunder for the 25th game in arow- Andris biedrins.

Udoh played a nice game but honestly… 26 minutes, 9 points, 4 rebounds and good D.

Do you think he was actually the warrior wonder, or just the fact he gave us SERVICEABLE center play v. the $9 million criminal we start.

by tafkasam on Feb 14, 2012 9:52 AM PST reply actions  

I mean I don’t think Udoh did anything spectacular, nor was he best player on the court. He just gave us solid role playing service at the center spot. Something apparently too hard for Biedrins.

DLee was Warrior Wonder, in my opinion. Sparked the entire 3rd quarter run, and carried the load when Monta and Steph had off nights offensively

by tafkasam on Feb 14, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

OK, good point, maybe I'm underselling his contribution

It’s just hard to not look at his contributions and feel they are being glorified or over-rated because of what we’re not getting out of starting 5

by tafkasam on Feb 14, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

DLee was Warrior Wonder, in my opinion. Sparked the entire 3rd quarter run, and carried the load when Monta and Steph had off nights offensively

I’m fully aware that Lee was the obvious choice, but if you go back and look at it the Warriors made their big runs late in the third when they went away from small-ball with Udoh coming in for Wright. Udoh totally changed the tone of the game. He was playing great defense, covering up for lots of other players mistakes, and shutting down the pick and roll. He also allowed Lee to focus on cleaning the glass by taking care of all the help D in the paint. Add to that a couple of very timely offensive contributions and I felt like I needed to spotlight him.

The way I see it, all the glory goes to the scorers anyway so if I can help to draw attention to the positive impact of a player that might otherwise be overlooked then I’m happy to do that. Lee obviously earned WW tonight, but so did Udoh, so I chose the guy that might not have otherwise been noticed.

by olympicmike on Feb 14, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Our last 3 wins can be attributed to Udoh.

He leads a block party every night, combined with some rugged defense in the 4th. David Lee carried this team tonight, playing big minutes, going above and beyond the normal play. Though, the last play where Udoh faked the hand off to Ellis, then scored, was awesome.

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by Critical Roach on Feb 14, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

To my eye there were two main factors that kept the Dubs in this game

Actually only one… hell froze over. Check out the photo of Klank smiling above for confirmation.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 14, 2012 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

This is kind of off topic but the same people who don't like David Lee wanted us to draft Monroe.

That doesn’t make sense to me, imagine a Lee/Monroe frontcourt, we wouldn’t be able to stop no one, not that we can now but it would be even worse.

by KillaE415 on Feb 14, 2012 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

You draft Monroe because he was bestp layer available

When you have the 6th pick, you NEVER pick for need. Only teams like Miami, Chicago, OKC draft for need because their cores are title capable.

Yes Monroe/Lee sucks, but you can always draft Monroe for something that fits bitter.

by tafkasam on Feb 14, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

George is valid

I’m not sure who is a better prospect, Monroe or George. I know both are much better prospects with higher upside than Udoh.

Udoh is a career role player, a good one, but not what you take at 6.

by tafkasam on Feb 14, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure who is a better prospect, Monroe or George.

i think george’s two-way potential gives him the higher upside.

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by bigkino217 on Feb 14, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Possible

But is he just a very nice role player?

Monroe is pushing towards being a high level post-scorer who rebounds his position well and can pass. It’s easier to find a defensive 4 to help him out, than Paul George who to me is still an unknown quantity in terms of upside. Can he be a core piece?

I know Monroe’s not a defensive center which is en-vogue now, but it’s even rarer to find a center who can score 17 per 36 on .580 ts% (at age 21 i might add) and give you 11 rebounds.

by tafkasam on Feb 14, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

i think george is capable of being a #2 or #3 guy on a contender

heck, indiana is a pretty good team, and even at 21 you could arleady argue that george is their best player so far this year.

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Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
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by bigkino217 on Feb 14, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

if we drafted monroe, i don't think we would have traded for lee

they’re similar players, and if we had lee on monroe’s contract, i don’t think so many people would be complaining.

that said, i too think george was the correct pick.

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by bigkino217 on Feb 14, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

yes but thats 4 years down the road from when you draft them

and they become RFA’s.

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by bigkino217 on Feb 14, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Udoh is a good player

But you don’t have coaches around the league game planning for him. Monroe in the other hand is demanding respect inside the paint and thats what the Warriors need. Udoh can change games defensively but I would rather have a center who’s averaging a double double every night while shooting above .500

by mrorangesoda on Feb 14, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Defense is half the game

With DLee, the best fit is a defensive Center who’ll grab boards and won’t be completely invisible on offense (someone send a memo to Beans) which is why Kwame surprisingly fit well with us.

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by Badly Browned on Feb 14, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

First let me say...

That at the time I would have taken Monroe, and I would still probably take him, BUT

But you don’t have coaches around the league game planning for him.

No, but as BB said, defense is half the game, and Udoh can be a key piece of your defensive game plan against the other teams star offensive player. Funneling a high powered perimeter scorer to Udoh’s help D is much more effective than if you had Monroe there. Giving up points is as bad as scoring them is good. Every time Udoh disrupts a play and makes a team miss is just as important as if he had posted up and sunk a hook shot, or tallied an assist from the high post (assuming we actually secure the rebound after his defensive stop).

Udoh can change games defensively but I would rather have a center who’s averaging a double double every night while shooting above .500

A player that does that is definitely more valuable in this league, but to Killa’s point we already have that guy in David Lee. Yes picking up Monroe instead of signing Lee would have been a much better option, but as the team is currently constructed Lee is giving you pretty much everything you would get from Monroe and there is only one ball to go around.

Monroe is definitely a more valuable commodity, but Udoh is probably capable of doing more to help this team than Monroe would. If I could do it over again I’d still take Monroe though, because we need more valuable assets to reshape this team, and whether he would stay or go he would definitely be more sought after than Udoh, then and now.

by olympicmike on Feb 14, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

one of the top shot blockes on a per minute basis

and you don’t think the opposition knows that and takes it into account?

S’pose you were speaking offensively though…

by WillyWhiteShoes on Feb 14, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I would be a happy camper with Monroe.

And as happy as I now am with Klay I still wish we had M Morris.

by Only In Fairfax on Feb 14, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Not exactly the way your describing.

I don’t like the Lee signing and wanted Monroe drafted. Wanted Monroe developing at center because I don’t think beans will ever turn it around. Did not feel Lee is worth his contract and definitely don’t want Monroe and Lee front court.

by srsrs on Feb 14, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I would take Monroe

He’s what, four years younger than Udoh? At almost 25, I don’t think Udoh has that much more upside. He may develop a serviceable “jump shot”, but he’ll always be a liability on offense.

Monroe on the other hand, being much younger, has a good chance of developing into a good defensive player. Plus, his skills make him so much more valuable. Even he wasn’t going to be a perfect fit with the W’s, he’d at least have so much more trade value alone. What could you get for Monroe? A LOT more than if you put Udoh on the trade block….

by axelfoley on Feb 14, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

How many games in a row do we have to start Andris, get into a whole and bench him?

Honestly, the only advantage to starting him is hoping he does something so you can trade him.

by tafkasam on Feb 14, 2012 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

I don't really mind him starting

If he plays well, he should continue to be on the court, but Biedrins in the game is rest for Udoh to give us his best effort in the 4th quarter.

by Doctor Kajita on Feb 14, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

this

Beans has to start, since he is only effective during the first 8 minutes of any given game

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 14, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

At the same time, this theory that Beans’ confidence would be crushed if he was benched seems unwarranted. It appears that whatever psychological evaluation they did and their attempts to address it have failed, so what could they possibly lose by trying to bench him?

by Doctor Kajita on Feb 14, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

He absorbs fouls and makes the opposing center work a little bit, then Ekpe happens. If our center position wasn’t so thin and inept, Biedrins would be in the d-league. That is the best solution I can come up for him.

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by GoldenBlue on Feb 15, 2012 2:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Starting doesn't really matter

He’s only getting 10-15 minutes a game anyways.

extrabaggs
"Just your typical Giants scoring rally: A faceburger on the basepaths, two errors from the second baseman and a bases-loaded balk."

by Badly Browned on Feb 14, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Furthermore

Considering he still has years on a contract we can no longer amnesty, you absolutely have to try to up his value so you can get anything out of him.

extrabaggs
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by Badly Browned on Feb 14, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I disagree with you here

Based on performance, Udoh has earned the right to start.

If you subscribe to the notion that a major part of AB’s problem is mental, making him a bench player is something to try and shake things up. Starting him over and over again because of “reasons” makes no sense.

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by fjm on Feb 14, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

well...if it aint broke

I really like having Udoh come into the game and change the feel.

also, under the new CBA, isn’t there some sort of contract kicker for guys who start a certain number of games?
keep Udoh cheap, keep him coming off the bench

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 14, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

W's 3-peat

Nice 3 game winning streak. Let’s see them go for a 4th on Wednesday! I’m dreading that long road trip and the game away from the Oracle….

by Currys_Sprained_Ankle on Feb 14, 2012 10:12 AM PST reply actions  

I’m dreading that long road trip and the game away from the Oracle….

but it looks like we are about 10th in the lottery race now so a long losing trip might be good for our chances of retaining our draft pick. The bright side is Sacramento will get a better pick if we win more games and they could use more young talent. Hate to see utah gain from our loss though.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 14, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't worry

IIRC, schedule gets pretty brutal post-All Star break.

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by Badly Browned on Feb 14, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Draft Pick

We all know we need a center (W’s M.O. since the days of Run TMC) but that pick can get us someone good. I wonder how serious the team will be about moving Elis/Curry if they are out of the race.

by Currys_Sprained_Ankle on Feb 14, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL!

wreck that tank!!

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 14, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, he is definitely a Bobcat Hulk!

Hard to beat that act! What is the record for most losses in a row?

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

HULK SMASH TANK!

Awesome, rec’d.

You know who would really smash tank, though? Dwight Howard. :-)

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 14, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

that's cute

but the tank is underground full of the stench of 7 great reasons to lose .

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 14, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

FORGET DWIGHT HOWARD!

Hulk is the ideal 5 for the Warriors.

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by JonDoe on Feb 14, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

good game last night

completely agree on Udoh for WW…
although, I would say he was more of the “yang”

Any word about Steph’s ankle?
It looked like he gently tweaked his other (left) ankle last night.

And you know, I got down on the FO, but honestly, I like our bench, I guess if you were not able to do anything about the starting 5 this is the next best thing.

Udoh was the obvious game-changer off the bench. But Rush and Nate both looked pretty good too. This was the first game in a long time where I can remember both Steph and Monta having bad shooting nights, and the dubs still managed to pull out the win

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 14, 2012 10:40 AM PST reply actions  

Udoh, WW, and other Ruminations

Udoh deserves the WW for the night, production with him on the floor is always better than when he’s off.. despite whatever numbers he may or may not put up. The only gripe I have with Udoh isn’t anything he does, but what the team has to do for lack of other proficient players. Ekpe should be playing PF, not Center. He can’t hang with the bigger, tougher legit centers in the league, yet those are his assignments every night. He does well enough, but that shouldn’t be his role.

I think Udoh could be an excellent PF for the team, if he gets the opportunity to play PF alongside a legit Center. Having a double presence in there on defense and Udoh’s decent ability to score or create for himself would be a great asset.

by freun989 on Feb 14, 2012 10:46 AM PST reply actions  

Couple things

1. I said legit center, not Kwame haha

2. They played well alongside each other in the first 8 games or whatever it was before Kwame got hurt. Although I don’t have numbers to back it up, I can say with 98% certainty Udoh is playing better ball now than he did then (more confidence, minutes, experience, etc). Thus, the numbers wouldn’t give the true picture of what could be with a real center playing with Udoh as of late.

by freun989 on Feb 14, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Eric Gordon was the worst fantasy pick of the season

He’s been injured forever

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

yeah, I was wondering where that guy was

thought he had just had the traditional post-laker flameout

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 14, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

except he was a clipper...

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by steffun4tw on Feb 14, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

oops

was trying to talk about Shannon Brown

can we?

what happened to Shannon Brown

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 14, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

horford might have been worse, seeing as he was generally picked higher.

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by bigkino217 on Feb 14, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Dorell Wright's Trade value

We should be shopping him heavily at this point. What could his value be on the market?

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by fjm on Feb 14, 2012 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

About 4 mil worth.

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by qin on Feb 14, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

we need to make a big deal, rather than yet another marginal move

our centerpiece has got to be either Monta or Steph

everyone else is just filler
(except Lee of course, who is as close to untouchable as anyone on the roster at this point)

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 14, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I aggree

That was kinda my point. you don’t really get anything for a 4mil player.

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by qin on Feb 14, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

what could possibly be so awesome that klay is smiling?

also does anyone notice that he like shakes his hands after he hits threes?

by ekpeudoh20 on Feb 14, 2012 11:25 AM PST reply actions  

Anti-illuminati?

by mrorangesoda on Feb 14, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

excited for him team mate doin it big

by richstyle on Feb 14, 2012 12:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Udoh should start

Even though he kills our rebounding he makes up for it with tough defense, which the Warriors lack. And it’s not like our rebounding could get any worse LOL.

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

Why?

It’d kill any of Beans’ value and Udoh already gets the minutes

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by dubzfan on Feb 14, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Udoh

He can dominate on D in the 4th. He starts and gets in foul trouble then what? Lee on D not so much at center, or PF for that matter. Beans in the 4th…please. Udoh don’t start but he finishes!

Go Epek Udoh!

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by Critical Roach on Feb 14, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think he kills rebounding at all.

He boxes out his man well and lets others get the rebounds.

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 14, 2012 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus

I’d much rather give up extra shots than let the first one go in.

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by Brownie13 on Feb 15, 2012 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

TWO of my reasons that factored into giving Udoh my WW

1) That backdoor pass to Rush for easy dunk.
2) Not handing the ball back to Monta for a key possesion. Even if Udoh missed that hook, it was so REFRESHING to see Udoh say, nope! NOt gonna let Monta end it with another desperate flailing attempt to close out a game.. Udoh took it into his own hands and controlled our destiny that night.. Look out~ Udoh is starting to emerge

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Feb 14, 2012 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

I will agree that Udoh played amazing and was a game changer.

but Lee kept us IN the game. He was aggressive and got us the rebounds we needed. I know may people on here hate him for being overpaid, but I still think he is a very good PF. Set him up with a serviceable center and we got our real nice and efficient front court.

As for Udoh starting, I’m not so sure about that just because he is already playing starter minutes. Why??? its because Beans can pick up early fouls and to see if beans is in game mode or tank mode.

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by bimmercirem3 on Feb 14, 2012 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

/yawn

Have we won our 4th strait yet?

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by Critical Roach on Feb 14, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if it is a yawn, that is a very compelling SI cover.

Count them. That is five lakers around him! Five! The entire team! He is going right at them!

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

/yawn

The Linwagon is full. No room for me.

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by Critical Roach on Feb 14, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

damn, is it too late to get him back?

I mean, Murphy has the size to play either the 4 or 5, plus a decent 3 point shot

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 14, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Gasol would be nice too

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by Badly Browned on Feb 14, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Gasol would be nice too

that’s the problem, they are too nice. They shoulda layed hard fouls on Lin and ended the linsanity right there.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 14, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

just me?

or does Lin kinda have the “u mad” look on his face here?

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 14, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Not just you lol

extrabaggs
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by Badly Browned on Feb 14, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

does Lin kinda have the "u mad" look on his face here?

that cover gives off a Dora the Explorer does basketball vibe.

Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.

by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 15, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Udoh vs Andris

A lot of talk about Udoh starting in the comments. I meant to mention this in the recap, but I ran out of time. I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately, and I think it might have been better for everyone’s trade value if Udoh took the starting spot, so long as he continued to play at the level he currently is.

My thinking is that more minutes for Udoh should obviously raise his value, and strangely enough we might have a better chance at moving Andris if he is perceived as a talented malcontent/headcase that doesn’t get along with his coach, rather than a once good player who has been given every chance to succeed and failed. It might be too late to change the narrative on Andris, but with some creative cloak and dagger PR leaking stories explaining that the reason for AB’s performance is more environmental than anything, and we might just be able to find a GM that believes his coaching staff could get 12 and 11 out of him again.

Yeah, it’s a long shot, but giving him the start every night and only playing him about 15 minutes isn’t really helping anyone. I guess if coach thinks that’s what is best for the development of Udoh then I can live with it, but I say let’s throw him in there and see what he can do.

by olympicmike on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

My thinking is that more minutes for Udoh should obviously raise his value, and strangely enough we might have a better chance at moving Andris if he is perceived as a talented malcontent/headcase that doesn’t get along with his coach, rather than a once good player who has been given every chance to succeed and failed. It might be too late to change the narrative on Andris, but with some creative cloak and dagger PR leaking stories explaining that the reason for AB’s performance is more environmental than anything, and we might just be able to find a GM that believes his coaching staff could get 12 and 11 out of him again.

Wholeheartedly agree.

despite the signed (interviews in latvia etc.) Biedrins is not a guy to build around, we kept him. We had an out with Nellie but didn’t take it . Maybe it was pre-mature.

Everday that Hill/Thabeet trade looks better :-/

What’s worst is, I’m not convinced Biedrins is done . I think he’s done here, but a change of scenerio might do something.

by tafkasam on Feb 14, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Getting the 7th or 8th seed in the playoffs

is not a good thing. It’s actually the worst scenario imo.

You lose your #15 or #16 1st round draft pick.
You convince half the fans that this team might actually work for next season.

We spend the whole offseason arguing about this.
“Break up the team! Trade Monta!”
“Dude, we made the playoffs, your argument is invalid”

by djfivenine on Feb 14, 2012 3:05 PM PST reply actions  

I'd rather make the playoffs.

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by LostHawkGSW on Feb 14, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

No.

But it’s not at all clear that making the playoffs this year means sitting forever at the 7th or 8th seed.

You keep getting better, you make you team am ore attractive destination for top players, and you keep your eyes open for the chance to make a major move.

by Ronaldinho on Feb 14, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

you're right.

and if they consistently improve. I have no problem with it.

But it sounds like you have a lot more faith in the FO than I do.

by djfivenine on Feb 14, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

If you don't have faith in the front office, why do you believe that a "blow it up" strategy will work?

There are plenty of examples of teams being bad – legitimately bad, not no-man’s-land bad – for 20+ years and not improving. The Clips were bad for over 20 years before they got Griffin and started to change their culture. The Wizards have been bad for 20+ years, and they’re nowhere close to turning it around.

by Ronaldinho on Feb 14, 2012 6:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

playoffs = fun

and we become a place free agents actually want to go.

I’d rather do that than hope we luck out and get someone good in the draft, when they very well come not be a difference maker.

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by LostHawkGSW on Feb 14, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Luck out?

I sure hope the Warriors don’t draft players hoping they get lucky.

by djfivenine on Feb 14, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Luck is part of it.

You get the first pick in a year when it’s LeBron rather than Olokandi.

You get the second pick in a year where the team with the first pick takes Oden over Durant.

You get the third pick and the team ahead of you takes Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan.

You get the fourth pick in a year where the two teams ahead of you inexplicably take Marvin and Deron Williams instead of Chris Paul.

You get the 11th pick in a draft and somehow the teams ahead of you all pass on the guy who looks likely to be the 4th-best player in it. (In this case, Klay Thompson).

Luck is a huge part of building a good team. Yes, you have to be good and smart. You have to be able to figure out that – say – Rasheed Wallace is going to be a better pro than Joe Smith. But if you don’t get lucky, if the guys ahead of you don’t make mistakes, and/or you don’t get lucky and grab the first pick in the year when the first pick really matters, then you can never get elite talent.

by Ronaldinho on Feb 14, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d that ish. The draft is almost entirely about luck. Getting a good player in the draft means you got lucky, practically by definition.

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Feb 15, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

That assumes that we will get there

I’m not so sure

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The worst scenario is sitting in the 8-14 range.

But I’d rather get a high pick than be an 8 seed, THIS year because we have such a flawed team that we need to blow it up and get a great pick. My opinion at least.

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 14, 2012 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather 8th seed with no draft pick, than 9-10 seed with no draft pick. Too many teams sucking ass below us.

Then trade Monta or Curry for a draft pick :D

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by Badly Browned on Feb 14, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

our bench is filthy

nate rob hit some clutch momentum building 3 pointers in the fourth quarter…just thought that was getting overlooked….nate and thomspon = easily the best backcourt bench in the game

by Kenny Yams on Feb 14, 2012 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

I would trade both of them for Harden

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 14, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not too sure about that

I’d definitely, obviously, trade nate for Harden. But I kind of like Klay, and think he actually has more potential than Harden.

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by LostHawkGSW on Feb 14, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

LOVE Harden

But the guy is going to get big money soon, and Klay will be inexpensive for another few years. If we are talking money, I rather have Klay. But if money didn’t matter, Harden in a heartbeat.

by djfivenine on Feb 14, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Team win.

Curry-Monta were below par (or, what I expect of them). Biedrins was the 2012 Biedrins. Lee, Udoh and the bench picked up the slack. Great moments for all. Unfortunately, I wanted to see the excellence in the backcourt demonstrated in the last game continued. It was an indicator I was looking for. It did not happen. We have all seen other games when the bench came in for a sub-performing Curry-Monta, and bailed the starters and the team out. I was hoping that would not be the case for this game. Lee picked up his game in the third, and Udoh’s defense in the fourth is a leading indicator of the overall defensive effort of the team. It was also encouraging to see, once again, the bench pick up the scoring slack in addition to Lee. Bottom line, for me, team win.

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

Lehhh trade

Biedrins, DWright and Kwame (march 1st) for Okafor and Ariza.

Ariza has been pretty bad, Hornets save a ton of money.. We get better defensively and i’ll cya in the playoffs.

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by Potential on Feb 14, 2012 4:07 PM PST reply actions  

This is one of the more realistic trades I've seen

I would definitely consider it if we had no better options.

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by LostHawkGSW on Feb 14, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The schedule has been so easy since Linsanity set in!

The Raptors tonight? The toughest opponent so far has been the struggling Lakers. Lin has already impressed me, but I want to see the Knicks take on a tough, tough team. But there are still so few of those in the East.

by ohcleverhansyou on Feb 14, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, I meant stop his drive to the hoop

On the play I saw, one of the Raptors defenders who was close to the baseline, stepped away to cover the 3 pt shooter in the corner instead of stepping into the paint to stop Lin’s drive. So Lin found a WIIIIDE open lane to the hoop.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 14, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Not ready to call it yet

But hopefully he can transition into being a very serviceable point guard for the Knicks.

by ohcleverhansyou on Feb 14, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

No wonder the Knicks have been losing

They’re just ugly, including that dunk fail

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 14, 2012 5:00 PM PST reply actions  

Line on Lin with 4 minutes to go 2d qr: 3-5, 6 points, 6 assists, 1 steal, 5 TURNOVERS!

Toronto has jumped all over the Knicks. He is going up against Calderon, who is one of the best playmakers in the NBA (8.9Assists per game last year, 7yh in the NBA). School-time for Lin?

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

I know I said this last game

But THIS game will be the first game Lin loses

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:16 PM PST reply actions  

Hold your horses...

One Lintrait that is emerging, is that he plays very well in the 4qr. The lead at the half is 11 points. A lot can happen the second half from a team on the road that was not sharp the first half.

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Lin really needs to get the P&R with Amare going

Unfortunately there’s not a lot of practice time to build chemistry

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:17 PM PST reply actions  

Knicks are shooting awful at the half:

Knicks: 36%, Toronto: 51%

3PT: Knicks: 29% (Lin 1-1)

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 5:19 PM PST reply actions  

Amare's not doing well

But Lin has got to P&R more with Amar’e instead of Chandler.

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

Let's see how Knicks adjust the second half

in Amare’s first game back (rusty); Knick bench was a combined 1-5, first half.

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

Fields 2-6, Walker 1-5, Stoudemire 3-13, Lin 5-12, Ouch!

Chandler is the only on of the starting five shooting anything at 5-5.

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

Chandler has the highest TS% in the league last I checked

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by Badly Browned on Feb 14, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Knick bench contributing next to nothing

A combined 1-6 for Novak, Shumpert and Jeffries ina combined 38 minutes of play: 4 points!

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 5:58 PM PST reply actions  

Single digit lead by Toronto after 3 qrs. Lin Time?

Bench has 11 points in 45 minutes of total play. Lin is 6-15 in his worse shooting performance of the Lin Knick Era! lol

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 6:04 PM PST reply actions  

Is this really happening, again?

Down 12 in the 4th qr, on the road, and pushing to tie!

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 6:20 PM PST reply actions  

Calderon is a heck of a point guard.

Watched him develop in Europe and the NBA. Now has a great shot to boot. 26 points , 8 assists and about 70% shooting!

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 6:24 PM PST reply actions  

man does he know how to draw fouls lol

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by bigkino217 on Feb 14, 2012 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

IQ, I have been watching him very closely. I agree.

He can be exhausted in the fourth, and, somehow, he finds the energy to kck it up another gear. He has done it EVERY time in the fourth quarter of every win! Forget about the points and assists per game. His fourth quarters have been something else. I have not checked it out, but, his turnovers decrease to practically zilch in the 4th qr. It would be interesting for somebody to do a 4th qr analysis on him.

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I am not going to run his line- Just say 6th win, and a double-double!

Game tying score, and the game winner, f the turnovers! Who care if he had 50!

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 6:41 PM PST reply actions  

They're hosting the Kings tomorrow night

we’ll see if Keith Smart figures out how to shut him down

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 14, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

we’ll see if Keith Smart figures out how to shut him down

Kings have some size and youthful energy so they might do better than toronto. Depends on if the good Tyreke or the bad tyreke shows up and if the refs let the big men play, if they have orders to protect the linsanity it might get ugly.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 14, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Keith Smart game plan

after this, I really hope Memphis play Acie Law against Lin

by Lawrence9ers on Feb 14, 2012 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

linsanity man, I can’t take it anymore

by TheSoundOfHockey on Feb 14, 2012 6:49 PM PST reply actions  

I'm glad we're on a winning streak and we're gaining momentum

Otherwise, we’ll be talking about Jeremy Lin even during our games and post games.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 14, 2012 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Otherwise, we’ll be we’re talking about Jeremy Lin even during our games and post games.

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by Badly Browned on Feb 14, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

me neither

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by Badly Browned on Feb 14, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

iso lin ftw >>>>>> iso monta ftw

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by bigkino217 on Feb 14, 2012 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

Interesting comment made by Lin's coach on that:

Asked whether he considered calling a timeout on the Knicks’ final possession, coach Mike D’Antoni said, "He’s too good to even call a timeout. You’re just giving them a chance to either load up, do something, switch the assignment. That makes it easy for a coach that is able to trust the point guard."

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-02-14/lins-star-soars-with-sixth-win-game-clincher#ixzz1mPzSgNyW

by dinohealth on Feb 14, 2012 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Good news for the Portland game tomorrow..

Marc J. Spears
‘Blazers All-Star forward LaMarcus Aldridge down with a left ankle injury after stepping on foe’s foot after jumper.’

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by Potential on Feb 14, 2012 7:45 PM PST reply actions  

lin isn't playing portland, the warriors are lol

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by bigkino217 on Feb 14, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

lol....I plead momentary Linsanity!

Got crossed up….thought he was still with us! Darn disease won’t go away!

by dinohealth on Feb 15, 2012 5:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Ouch but good for us as far as extending this win streak

We’ll still have a tough test with a monster East coast road trip. But I’ll take a 4 game win streak. Let’s do it.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 14, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow the Warriors might get five in a row

We’re always good at home against the Blazers anyways

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

five?

that requires beating okc at okc

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by bigkino217 on Feb 14, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude don't rain on my parade with your logic

:)

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

ALL HE DOES IS LIN LIN LIN

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 7:49 PM PST reply actions  

All he does is Lin

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 7:55 PM PST reply actions  

Stephen "Not Jeremy Lin" Curry

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 8:21 PM PST reply actions  

Right… No way Curry could score 27 points on only 20 shots. Only Monta is that skilled.

Over

by cybermaldonado on Feb 14, 2012 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude calm down

It was a joke. We all know you’re Curry homer, you don’t have to go through every post to defend him.

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

If I'm a Curry homer what does that make you?

You don’t need to go through every thread and insert random Curry bashes.

Over

by cybermaldonado on Feb 14, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh lots of people complain about Curry's turnovers

Like I said, he has the skills to pass, he just consistently makes dumb passes that make people shake their heads

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

What part of my post wasn't calm?

Please enlighten me

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Discussions like this are healthy for improving general basketball knowledge.

Curry is fine, he is just not a Linesque point guard. He is still proving that he can be like Jeremy at the point. Of course, this season, this six game stretch, Lin is the epitome of what a point guard should be all about. That is allowing for his practically-still-a-rooke turnovers. During this stretch, Lin is playing the point, better than any point guard in the league. Undoubtedly, it will not last at this level, but it sure is special to see. A lot of good for a lot of the aspiring, young, point guards out there.

by dinohealth on Feb 15, 2012 5:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Curry is fine, he is just not a Linesque point guard

of course he’s not, binky was drafted and had pretty good odds going for him while Lin was a big gamble that paid off. You can’t be successful waiting for something like linsanity to fall into your lap.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 15, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Lin's been turning it over more than Curry.

You know that right? Plenty of them are “WTF were you thinking” kinds of turnovers as well.

I mean, in his 5 starts, he’s got 30 turnovers. Even with all his assists, he’ still got less than a 1.5 assist to turnover ratio. It’s not exactly his passing that’s making for his success. It’s ability to stay aggressive driving the lane as a scorer.

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by Brownie13 on Feb 15, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t understand what you are trying to say….

Stephen “Not Jeremy Lin” Curry
Uh lots of people complain about Curry’s turnovers

Curry is not Lin because Curry makes TO’s?

Over

by cybermaldonado on Feb 14, 2012 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay I'll be clearer

1.) What I posted about Curry here was a JOKE. I wouldn’t trade Curry for Lin.
2.) I complain about Curry on OTHER threads because he turns the ball over too much.

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

He does turn it over, but so does Monta.

by Anonymous1337 on Feb 14, 2012 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey I complain about Monta too

Monta is an inefficient shooter who dominates the ball too much at times (which leads to turnovers, obviously)

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Who cares about what Monta does? The discussion is about Curry.

Doubleteapot made a comment (witty I might add), about Curry. He never spoke about Monta. But, using your logic, if one stinks, it is OK for the other to stink? Besides, Curry is playing at PG. Monta is not. You are comparing apples with origins. Though a PG handles the ball a lot more time than a SG, he is also expected to have fewer turnovers (the good ones, anyway).

by dinohealth on Feb 15, 2012 5:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough

I wouldn’t call myself a Curry Homer so much. Rather I am someone who has an over inflated sense of fair play. I understand that over reaction – good and bad – is part of fanhood. I just can’t resist trying to counter balance that to some degree.

Over

by cybermaldonado on Feb 14, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair to Curry, the last few games, his TOs are dramatically down/

I think he is really making a major effort to take care of the ball. That is very PointGuardish!

by dinohealth on Feb 15, 2012 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Curry is not Lin because Curry makes TO’s?

and Curry was drafted?

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 14, 2012 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Skeptic, that is not much of an argument.

Right now the entire world is questioning the draft system that left Lin undrafted.

by dinohealth on Feb 15, 2012 5:54 AM PST up reply actions  

that is not much of an argument.

it’s not an argument it’s a fact.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 15, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but you present the fact as part of an argument.

An argument that everyone seems to be questioning these days. Another words, a system that promotes the kind of misses represented by the Lin’s and Reggies of the world, may not be as reliable as we think. Conversely, that lack of reliability may account for a Curry being drafted, and, high at that (totally disgarding any NBA gene insider arguments)! In this particular case, Steph may be worthy of that pick. In others, history has proven, that they were not.

Moving on, as far as the TOs, WHAT IF, Curry had led the Warriors on a six game win-streak, averaging over the last five 27 points, 9 assists, and had a gamewinner to boot, but, also had 6 turnovers or more in 4 of those games; would Warriors fans be constantly talking about his weakness, the TOS? Probably not. Certainly, not as much as Lin’s TOS, and his alleged poor jump shot (already being prove invalid in the court) are being talked about in here, as if to justify our gross error in letting him go.

I am not trying to throw salt on the wounds of all the great prognasticators in here of PG talent, but you would think that a bit of humble pie would serve as a reminder to continue to assess their criteria of evaluation and prediction, instead of continuing to use such obviously disproven, blind, arguments of whether, or, not a talented player was in fact drafted or undrafted as a pivotal fact in any discussion.

by dinohealth on Feb 15, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

his alleged poor jump shot

was also a fact when we had him.
everyone is arguing that we should go back and make a pre-season decision based on last weeks games and that’s not the way it works. They made the decision based on what they knew then not what you know now.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 15, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

If Jeremy Lin is Superman

Keith Smart is Lex Luthor his mortal enemy, Let see how will Keith Smart stop Lin tomorrow

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

mykelala01 is like the bouncer with the red rope for GSOM. You’re good to come in now.

by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT

by mykelala01 on Feb 14, 2012 8:32 PM PST reply actions  

Although, There was an article on Yahoo today that credited Smart with teaching Lin how to be a jump shooter.

Over

by cybermaldonado on Feb 14, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone on this site mentioned all the extra shooting he did with Curry and Reggie after practices.

by ohcleverhansyou on Feb 14, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It's his work ethic, really

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

He trained with a shooting coach in the off season.

by Anonymous1337 on Feb 14, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Curry said his shot was bad so maybe he did help him with it.
Stephen Curry said of Lin. "He kind of leaned to one side and kicked his right leg out. We always made fun of it. It looked weird

Curry doesn’t mention in that article that he had anything to do with helping Lin learn how to shoot better. Maybe he just doesn’t want to jump Lin’s train.

Over

by cybermaldonado on Feb 14, 2012 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Then Smart might have the formula

to neutralized Lin

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

mykelala01 is like the bouncer with the red rope for GSOM. You’re good to come in now.

by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT

by mykelala01 on Feb 14, 2012 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew that Lin got sent to the D League

But I didn’t realize he got sent there AGAIN by the Knicks. I think being waived twice and going to the D League twice really put a chip on his shoulder.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 14, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think being waived twice and going to the D League twice really put a chip on his shoulder.

too bad the Lin boyz didn’t put their money where their mouth was and bet on the possibility of this multi game performance run? They coulda gotten great odds.
Reminds me a lot of the market in the 90’s , just going up and up when it was already too high.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 14, 2012 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

lolol, agree.

Those of us that are a bit older remember that happening several times. We were smart the second time around, recognized it, and…still lost our arses! :-)

by dinohealth on Feb 15, 2012 5:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Who will be the first rapper to make a song after Jeremy Lin

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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

There is that one by Mega Ran that I heard was played on ESPN. Not that I have any idea who Mega Ran is.

Over

by cybermaldonado on Feb 14, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Michael Jordan + Kobe Bryant = Jeremy Lin

If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
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by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 10:09 PM PST reply actions  

I explained how I found out what the ESPN stat was measuring.

I don’t know if you still care, but I thought I’d let you know I went back and responded, since it’s no longer on the fanshot front page.

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by Brownie13 on Feb 15, 2012 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

wow Portland lost to Washington at home.

If we lose tomorrow, i don’t know what to say.

by tolliver on Feb 14, 2012 11:36 PM PST reply actions  

To be fair, Aldridge went down early with an ankle injury.

That really shouldn’t be an excuse to lose to the Wizards, though, and the lost more because they played the way they have been recently. I mean, they started 7-2, and have since gone 8-12.

They’ve played even worse on the road, so we should have a very winnable game tomorrow night, especially since Aldridge might not play on his bum ankle.

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by Brownie13 on Feb 15, 2012 12:31 AM PST up reply actions  

A must win with aldridge out tonight

No way Warriors beating okc on friday.. And then beat either Grizz or Clippers and go 2-2. 13-16 after Monday would be about right before suns again on weds.

by Raiiny on Feb 15, 2012 8:56 AM PST reply actions  

portlands falling apart

lets take advantage of this

It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(

by j-spliff415 on Feb 15, 2012 9:28 AM PST reply actions  

portland's falling apart

they lost oden and roy and NYK gained linsanity. Funny how things work out. Best laid plans of mice and men down the drain.

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 15, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

i meant as a team

complete disfunction right now. aldridge is dragging them alongg howard-style, but now that he’s out, they’re making a strong case for how thin they are currently. matthews felton, and wallace are going to have to step it up big if they want to stay relevant

It's lonely being the only Warriors fan at UMass :(

by j-spliff415 on Feb 15, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

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