ALMOST THERE!
Besides us letting Jeremy Lin go, I feel like the warriors organization is doing a great job with the team. We have a nice bench. The acquisition of Nate Robinson, Brandon Rush, Klay Thompson, and kwame Brown were all good pick ups. Its clear we have the solid bench and depth we need for for when we need to spare our starters time to rest and to be a contending team in the west.
The starters on this team have a good chemistry, but they wont get far. Two players that stick out to me that are hurting our team are Andris Biedrins and D. Wright. Andris hurts our team because he does nothing for us on offense. Defenses know this and are starting to leave him alone therefore its like we are playing 4 on 5. D. Wright is hurting our team with all those pump fakes and trying to pick up fouls and never gets them.
Our three starters "RUN ELC" ellis, lee, and curry are GREAT! They have a few rough nights but i dont blame them when they have to grind out each game DOING EVERYTHING for 35-40 + mins a night.
As you read below, i would like to propose a trade and maybe 1 or two pick ups that will make our team a contending team in the west!
First i would like to propose that we let Charles Jenkins, Chris Wright, and Jeremy Tyler all play so that we can evaluate what we have in those players. Our other bench players dont need any evaluation they have already proven they can get us back into games and thats all you can ask for, the rest is up to the STARTERS!My next proposal is that we trade biedrins and D. wright to the bucks for ex warrior Cap'n jack! Before you say im smoking crack or get upset just hear me out. This trade makes sense for both teams. The bucks would do this because Jackson is causing problems and is looking to be traded. The bucks would get a solid defender in D. Wright. He is similar to jackson not to mention his contract is cheaper then jackson's. The bucks would also get a decent backup center in biedrins to spare Bogut some minutes. Biedrins needs a fresh start and i feel like he would thrive playing with bogut and having a chance to prove himself somewhere else.
The warriors would add Jackson because he is a proven player. The warriors NEED to get there minds out of getting draft picks, we have done this enough already and it has gotten us nowhere. If you really think about all our last draft picks, none of them are with us still, so i think its time we give up on that. Jackson would bring that SOLID defender we need, playoff experience, and toughness. He doesnt pump fake as much as D. Wirght, but i must admit as much as i like D Wright, i would love to have Jackson back even with him getting older. I have to say it again, Jackson brings TOUGHNESS to this team!! When i look at Curry, Ellis, Wright, lee, and biedrins, i see NOOOOO EMOTION!!! I see a little in Lee, but its not enough! Monta i feel like he is too serious or just is simply tired of losing and he is just lost and does not know what to do. Jackson would an old friend and could possibly bring Monta out of this shell he is in.
All i want is for Curry and Ellis to develop that mindset that Chris Paul or even our very own Nate Robinson, i want them to develop that mindset that when they hit a shot i want to see them clapping at the opposing team and getting into their heads! When they develop that both of them can truly call themselves ALL-STARS!! Something they need to realize is that they cant just put the numbers up, they have to have character about themselves as well. To sum up Jackson, i feel like we can use him in many ways. We have Klay who is proving himself. We can allow Klay to start for us let him have a shot at getting rookie of the year not to mention allow ellis to run point and slide curry over to shooting guard. Imagine Rondo from the celtics and two Ray allens running the floor. Thats what we have and we need to utilize it. Klay is an okay defender but on certain nights we can allow jackson to start, but i rather see jackson try to get 6th man of the year. Im rgoing a little off topic here, but inserting jackson in the second lineup would make our bench really competitive! I guarentee they lead in blocks having a defensive player in kwame next year, and udoh. Not to mention we would have that toughness coming from those solid bigs plus jackson and NATE. Rush would just be additional scoring for us but a good fit to round us out.
Finally for next year, i would go after Dwight Howard! I dont want to talk much about him because we all know what he brings! The warriros would have that solid 5 who can post and bring attention off of our backcourt allowing them to do deadly work! i would really start Klay if we had D. Howard because again imagine two sharpshooters plus a fearless attacker in MONTA on the floor, not to mention Lee who can post and shoot! Not to mention the warriors would be on ESPN/TnT everynight!!! The warriors are suppose to have a ton of cash next off season, so tanking this season for that 6th or lower pick would be a good idea so that we can trade it for cash possibly? To cap it off Howard did say he would love to play with "ELLIS & JACKSON" so why not get ellis a old friend back, keep our dominating back court, and add HOWard? Jackson has one year left on his books for 10 mil. I rather pick him up this year and pay HIM rather then biedrins because i know i will get more out of my money. We would have a complete team and it would all be left up to Howard to realize that he is the MISSING PIECE. Getting a player like Jackson only boost our chances at getting Howard, plus we need to get rid of biedrins salary, he is hurting this team financially and on the court.
i feel like Howard will not go to the nets. If he goes there it will be for the $$$ because the nets have No one!! I dont see him going to the bulls unless hes traded before the deadline, but i dont see that happening. The bulls are best team in the NbA and are going after that ring this year they dont have time to break up there team and try and develop chemistry and find out in the playoffs that they are a few players away. I see Howard going to the clippers, lakers, or warriors in that order! The clippers have a great team and are very similar to us, but they just have more emotion. If you compare us we are dead on the nose the same! we have a deeper bench but we lose because no mental toughness! I dont see much of a reason for howard to pass up on going to the clippers. But some reasons could be money. Howard would go to the Lakers more likely because he has three good years left with kobe + gasol + world piece etc, but with no point guard im not sure. After Kobe leaves, he would be the face of that team. if he came to our team he has a realistic shot at winning more titles then the celtics organization if we can keep our team together and injury free! Maybe not the Celtics organization but my point is he can get a few more rings because we have a young good team!
Theres no telling if we can get howard next year, all we can do is hope, but i would definitely get jackson which would then make us maybe 1-2 players away from being a playoff team. If Howard disses our team. We have options to go after young potential centers like mcgee, hibbert, or a vet in kevin garnett if the celtics pass on him .We could sign back ups to add depth like turiaf. Im expecting the Lakers to offer Howard money before they offer Bynum cash, so hopefully bynum feels disrespected and looks to move on. I wouldnt mind over paying him and trying to trade him or just keep him. ANY center is a upgrade from biedrins at this point.
Recap:
Evaluate the team see what we have going into next year.
Play for 6th pick or lower.
Trade wright and biedrins for jackson.
In the summer go after Howard, or an upgrade to biedrins. (take into consideration a upgraded center will take some weight off of other players on our team).
Current Team after Trade
Curry/ Nate/ Jenkins
Ellis/ Klay/
Jackson/ Rush/ c. Wright
Lee/ Udoh/ Mcquire
???/Brown/ Tyler
We would have to sign a big man just to get through this season, but im all for it if we can evaluate this person and have them as a backup next year if we get Howard.
Next Years Team
Curry/ Nate/ Jenkins
Ellis/ Klay
Jackson/ Rush
Lee/ Udoh/ Mcquire
Preferably Howard, but if not- (Bynum, Mcgee, hibbert, R. Lopez, B. Lopez, ,Garnett, Turiaf, A. Randolph // Kwame Brown, Jeremy Tyler.
This FanPost is a submission from a member of the mighty Golden State of Mind community. While we're all here to throw up that W, these words do not necessarily reflect the views of the GSoM Crew. Still, chances are the preceding post is Unstoppable Baby!
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these past games we've lost are WHY we need him ^^^ (JACKSON)
I just want to say D. Wright was why we lost the game against the grizzlies! He didnt score for most of the game i think he made a 3! Not to mention he allowed his man get the rebound and lay the ball up. Biedrins i want to stop giving him a hard time but really two points? smh
by cecildedmon91@gmail.com on Feb 18, 2012 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Not to mention
Having jackson for a few years cant hurt. he can play in front of or back up klay. either way klay will benifit from this because jackson can teach him things he doesnt know. Klay will become a better defender and get some of jacksons mental toughness. this will make the F.O. and Mark jackson job easier in the long run…Klay is already a good player! He lacks playoff experience. By adding jackson. we have a vet in somewhat his prime/ on his way out.. Having jackson for a few years would benefit our team and then we can slide klay into his shoes once he is gone!
by cecildedmon91@gmail.com on Feb 19, 2012 12:36 AM PST up reply actions
I'd do that deal just cause if you get a somewhat focused Jack you get a top 10 SF
And we’d dump Andris , but I don’t know if he’d want to return
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I forgot to add in that our organization back then was a little bad so that caused problems. I feel like coming here would be a new start because we have a new organization now.
by cecildedmon91@gmail.com on Feb 17, 2012 1:37 AM PST up reply actions
He doesn't seem like the type of guy the FO would go for
Kinda the opposite
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true
the front office needs to open their eyes and take a look at nate r. and jackson when he played with us for the playoffs! lol all these soft players on our team arent gettin it!
by cecildedmon91@gmail.com on Feb 17, 2012 1:49 AM PST up reply actions
They are stupid not to go after him.
this team lacks toughness and another option to go to late in games. Every night we are right there in the mix of games and we end up losing in the final minute. If biedrins isnt going to play and d. wright has recently been getting benched due to Klay/rush/nate great performance ’s, then we should get something for them. Grabbing jackson or a player like him only would make this team more competitive and more appealing for someone like Howard to come next year.. not to mention jackson will want an extension wherever he goes so he will be playing at his best so he can get that new contract. wright and biedrins do absolutely nothing for us now
by cecildedmon91@gmail.com on Feb 18, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not siding with them
But it just doesn’t seem like something we’d do
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Bucks have Bogut
and he makes $12 million, adding Biens means they are dedicating $21 million to the center position. That alone makes me think they would say no.
This is a different idea which is good to read tho.
ALMOST THERE
Let’s hope it works out better for us than it did for Red Leader.
There will be no extra point!
I think we've switched off our targeting computer
Riley is trying like the dickens to use the force
"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus
by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 17, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
hehe
He can’t get his light saber up.
Harbaugh -- "We're not into answering questions"
by Critical Roach on Feb 17, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
I've thought about the possibility of doing a Stack Jack trade
But I didn’t think about giving the Bucks Biedrins nor do I think about getting Bogut.
I like the trade with Milwaukee because they’re a struggling team just like the Warriors, and they seem to like to dump their burdens onto each other.
It’s almost like when we traded DunMurphy to Indiana. Funny how SJax centers around all this…
so why not get ellis a old friend back
Why not get Biedrins an old friend back? In my opinion, Biedrins had as much chemistry with SJax as he did with Baron Davis.
The possibility of trading Biedrins seems remote. I’m all for it if it happens, but the thought of a Curry, Thompson, SJax, Lee, Biedrins lineup is intriguing. That means DWright is on the bench where he belongs. That means we are no longer burdened with a small backcourt, which IMO is the biggest flaw of this team. That flaw is compounded by the fact that Monta is…well, you know where I’m going with that.
I thought about proposing Monta for SJax as Brandon Jennings wants out of Milwaukee, apparently, but you’d probably need to get a third team involved to take Jennings.
hmm sounds very intriguing...
Since SJax is a willing passer and is a perfect PnR player, maybe he can get the old Beans back. But even if he didn’t, having a player like SJax can really make the SF position strong again. But to be honest, I don’t want that knucklehead in a Warriors Uniform because he is of the past.
I still think Monta can net better players. To us Warriors fans, trading Monta seems to be high priority, but outsiders will just see this kind of move as a stupid Warriors move…letting go good players for ok players.
curry & iggy TEAM USA buddies.
by bimmercirem3 on Feb 17, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
Keeping Ellis AND adding Stephen Jackson
is the last thing this franchise needs to do.
but jackson wants a contract extension?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 17, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Keeping Ellis AND adding Stephen Jackson
is the last thing this franchise needs to do.
haha, never stopped the stupidity before
"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus
by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 17, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
If Dwight came along with it is worth it
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6029832
Not terrible, not great
Jackson and Monta are guys Dwight has said he wants to play with, if we made a move for him and tried to get some pieces around him to keep him happy this may not be too bad
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We'd lose a ton of young talent but it'd be worth it if we kept Dwight
If he walks we are essentially back at 2009, Jack and Monta running things with no big. It’s a huge risk, but at least next year Jack’s deal will be a expiring
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PG: Jenkins, Nate (he’d get more PT I’d assume)
SG: Monta, Rush
SF: Jackson, McGuire, Wright
PF: Udoh, ???Mcguire?
C : Dwight, ??? Udoh?
It’s not that great, but we could sign someone like Andre Miller in the offseason , Jason Thompson as a backup big and a Barnes at SF all for cheap.
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We cant trade for Howard because it just doesnt make any sense. We pretty much would have him for half a season. I think Howard is great but at the same time a little overrated. I would love to have him, but i wouldnt gut our team out for him. I feel like Next year if he is available we have to give him a great contract at the same time we have to have a team around us! We have a great bench, sometimes i feel like they are better then our starters, but at the same time we have 3 decent starters! Lee is putting up all-star numbers. Curry and Ellis can easily be in the all star game if they had a upgrade of a center to biedrins. Teams are realizing that biedrins is not a threat on offense and D Wright is starting to become less of a threat. Adding jackson or a player like jackson would put this team in the right direction!!
by cecildedmon91@gmail.com on Feb 18, 2012 11:22 PM PST up reply actions
NO way I would trade for SJax
I’m done with that guy. He has been pestering the Bucks for a contract extension for months now. He’s gonna want a contract extension if he comes back here. Do you really want to give this a contract extension, just to have him demand a trade a few months later? Heck no. Fool me once….
So sick of Jackson's tired act
I loved him on the Dubs, but then he sabotaged an entire season when he became disgruntled. That’s pretty tough to swallow when this franchise gave him everything, even beyond reason. Only chumps demand to get paid before getting the job done. He demanded an extension from the Bucks before even stepping foot on the court for one minute of action.
I would not be proud to cheer on a player like that.
'stack jack' can't return
please recall the harsh critiques Lacob laid on the closing seasons of his predecessor’s era about locker room dissatisfaction getting aired in the media. The present owners have given us every sign that they are extremely public image conscious, and don’t want reminders of what they perceive as ‘turmoil’ during Nelson’s tenure. they gave Ellis his own p.r. campaign last fall to reinforce the notion that he’d matured and accepts responsibilities (of course, he then pursued a little extramarital hanky panky, as it turns out), aware that he’d been part of the several of the public image blemishes.
Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)
what ever happened to Monta's texting fiasco?
It pretty much dropped out of sight in the media. Maybe it wasn’t true?
civil suit, not a criminal prosecution
the two sides can take their time to try to settle without going to trial. the team and Ellis will want to avoid the publicity of a trial, but also don’t want to cave in to a fat settlement payoff. the burden of proof for the plaintiff to establish isn’t as tough as what prosecutors have to meet in criminal courts, and that’s a factor that squeezes defendants into settlements.
Music is the Healing Force of the Universe (a.ayler)
Can Someone remind me why jackson left GSW?
We gave hiim a brand new contract like he wanted. next thing i know was he want a trade…
when i thinkk about it jackson did the SMART thing.. He saw that our organization took a bunch of steps back after that we believe season/ the following season, so he did the smart thing! he got an extension to play basketball. When he got what he want he bailed out on us because he saw that we were making dumb choices.. I think alot of us would have done the bbuisness decision jackson did!! With a new front office im sure he would be willing to start off on a clean slate with us!
I keep saying this.. but jackson is who we need. i literally checked out every team we could possibly trade with to get a player like jackson and nun exist.. maybe this is a msg to us? The bucks dont see jackson in their future so why not take our offer? it make sense if we really want a chance at Howard next year! Im pretty sure less teams are talking about getting howard now because he wont sign an extension anywhere. I guess Lakers are the only team really pursuing him b/c they went from dominant to …..Idk somewhat ok
by cecildedmon91@gmail.com on Feb 19, 2012 12:29 AM PST reply actions
. I guess Lakers are the only team really pursuing him b/c they went from dominant to …
I’m not sure the lakers are the same team now that Dr buss is winding down, they might not be willing to spend what it takes any more?
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 19, 2012 9:33 AM PST up reply actions

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