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Warriors Game Day Links #30: Golden State Warriors 106 @ Phoenix Suns 104 - Warriors lose a 21 pt lead, but finished tough when they needed to

Feb. 22, 2012; Phoenix, AZ, USA;  Golden State Warriors guard Monta Ellis (8) passes the ball around Phoenix Suns forward Grant Hill (33) during the second half at the US Airways Center. The Warriors defeated the Suns 106-104. Mandatory Credit: Jennifer Stewart-US PRESSWIRE.

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Warriors: Golden State of Mind
Recap: To be added: Title
Game thread: Game Thread #30: Golden State Warriors @ Phoenix - Battle at the Cactus! (1050+ comments)

Suns: Bright Side Of The Sun
Recap: Ellis, Warriors Edge Phoenix Suns in Last Seconds, 106-104
Game thread 2: Suns Vs. Warriors Second Half Live Thread
Game thread 1: Suns Vs. Warriors Live Game Chat #1
Preview: Phoenix Suns Vs. Golden State Warriors Game Preview


Recaps

Associated Press: Ellis' jumper lifts Warriors past Suns, 106-104 | Photo Gallery
Sports Network: Ellis' last-second shot lifts Warriors over Suns; Curry injures foot
Matt Steinmetz: Warriors down Suns on Monta's game-winner, 106-104
Rusty Simmons: Warriors beat Suns 106-104 on Monta Ellis' shot
Marcus Thompson II: Monta Ellis’ Game-Winner Lifts Warriors Over Suns 106-104; Warriors Enter All-Star Break Having Won 5 of 8


Pregame News

- Matt held his online chat earlier today.
Matt Steinmetz: Matt Steinmetz chat transcript (2.22.12)

- Some Mark Jackson quotes from morning shootaround.
Rusty Simmons: GS Warriors coach Mark Jackson sticks with Andris Biedrins

- Previews of the game.
Matt Steinmetz: Warriors-Suns: What to watch for
Marcus Thompson II: What to Watch For – Game 30

Pregame Videos

- KNBR, 95.7 FM audio
12:49 min: Matt Steinmetz on Chris Townsend, 95.7 FM, Tue
9:54 min: Ekpe Udoh on Fitz and Brooks, KNBR
17:17 min: Larry Riley on Ralph and Tom, KNBR

Leftover: Dave Chappelle taking practice shots after the game.

Warriors Central -- Get to know Mark Jackson

Tue: Mark Jackson practice interview.

Tue: Stephen Curry practice interview.


Tue: Practice interview tidbits about Ekpe Udoh.


Tue: Practice interview tidbits about the Suns.


Postgame News

- The sixth time's a charm.
Rusty Simmons: Monta Ellis rewards coach's faith in him at finish

Postgame Videos

Jim Barnett interviews Monta Ellis right after the game.

Mark Jackson in the hallway.

CSN highlights, recap.


Highlights by gumbywithpokey.

Recap and highlights from nba.com's game page:
Warriors vs. Suns: First half
Curry's Oop to Dorell
Lee's Putback Slam
Monta's Game-Winner
Warriors vs. Suns

Postgame Quotes and Stuff from warriors.com recap

Photo Gallery

Audio
2:15 min: Jim Barnett interviews Monta Ellis right after the game
2:21 min: Tim Roye interviews Monta Ellis right after the game
5:13 min: Mark Jackson Postgame - 2/22
Mark Jackson
On Tonight's Game:
"I feel like we executed on both sides of the basketball when it matters most. And if I had to design a win, I would have designed it this way. It was much better for our future to grind out a win. I like the fact that they are a team that is going to compete, they got back into the game, they took control of the game. But we buckled and were disciplined enough on both sides of the basketball to come out of here with a win. It was a great victory, absolutely great victory. And Dominic McGuire, nine rebounds in limited minutes, six offensive rebounds, has a big time defensive board, does a great job defending. Just a total team effort and Monta (Ellis) with a big shot down the stretch."
Monta Ellis
On Tonight's Game:
"We played hard together as a team. I mean, my teammates, I give them full credit - catching the ball when I was passing it, setting great screens for me, getting me open shots and making big shots down the stretch, and getting defensive stops on the other end."
David Lee
On Tonight's Game:
"They are a good home team and they made a run on us. We had some stretches we didn't play as well as we should have in the second half. And the most important thing is defensively and offensively, we made some plays down the stretch capped by Monta's great shot there at the end and we're happy we were able to get that one, especially before a couple days off."

Interesting Tweets

(during the game, near the end of the 1st half)
gswscribe: Curry just walked back to the bench. Appears to be fine
gswscribe: Curry just told Mark Jackson "I'm OK." He took off his warm-up. Looks like he's about to check in
gswscribe: It's not his ankle. Looks more like a thigh or a hamstring ... He can hardly move though
gswscribe: He just told Mark Jackson he can't go after testing it out
gswscribe: Curry tried to get open on that last possession and came up hobbling
Rusty_SFChron: Stephen Curry just tested out what looks like a left hammy injury and told coach Mark Jackson that he can't continue.
Rusty_SFChron: Warriors PG Steph Curry will not return with a strained right foot, according to the team. He had nine points and two assists in 11 minutes.
Rusty_SFChron: Warriors say Curry's right foot has a strained tendon, but initial X-rays were negative.
Rusty_SFChron: I'm still shocked Warriors PG Stephen Curry injured his right foot. He was limping badly on his left leg and grabbing at his hammy/quad.

(after the game)
DWRIGHTWAY1: AAaaayyy. Good win b4 the break.
KCsFinest4 (B.Rush): Good win. Flight back to the bay

gswscribe: Strained posterior tibialis tendon RT @PineappleParm what's the word on Curry?

Notes

- Stephen Curry suffered some kind of "strained right foot tendon" injury. He tried to test it out on the final possession of the 1st half, but he clearly could not move. Check the tweets above to see what MT2 and Rusty saw.
- Ekpe Udoh rebanged his knee in the 2nd qtr. He did come back in, but you can see he was still stung by it.
- A strained... what? Posterior tibialis tendon. It is the tendon that attaches the calf muscle to a bone in the foot. (If the image is too small, try clicking on it for the original size.)

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What's next?

- With the Curry foot injury, the only thing we have to root for in All-Star weekend is Anthony Morrow's 3pt shooting, because we've been clamoring to get him in the contest since he was with us.
- See all those @'s? We got a massive 5 game road trip to start the 2nd half of the season. 5 games in 7 nights with a back-to-back to start it and another back-to-back to finish it.

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Poll
That was torture, but our guys stood tall and tough when we needed to. Good job!
Stephen Curry
27 votes
Monta Ellis
611 votes
Dorell Wright
53 votes
David Lee
26 votes
Andris Biedrins
18 votes
Nate Robinson
8 votes
Ekpe Udoh
9 votes
Dominic McGuire
99 votes
Brandon Rush
2 votes
Klay Thompson
11 votes
Team win
57 votes

921 votes | Poll has closed

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Monta

Case could definitely be made for any of the bigs (haha except Beans, of course).

But that was a legitimate game winner. Right in Grant Hill’s eyeball.

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 22, 2012 10:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Grant Hill always plays good D on Monta...

… even on that last play. But like Fitz said… in the NBA, good offense beats good defense.

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by JonDoe on Feb 23, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, well...sometimes
in the NBA, good offense beats good defense.

maybe it’s just that I want to disagree with Fitz…but that was NOT a very good look.
We got damn lucky it went down.
Helluva shot by Monta

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

It was.

Grant Hill usually locks Ellis down. The last game he had him taking some really horrible shots, and they weren’t falling. This one went in.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 23, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

it was not an ideal look

but it’s a shot Monta is capable of making. Against a team as explosive as PHX, you don’t want to leave any time on the clock. So rather than trying the whole 12 seconds for the best shot you can get, it makes sense you to use up the clock and settle for a more difficult shot, since the defense knows exactly what you’re going to do. It was great defense by Hill, and a shot that Monta misses more often than he makes, but I’m sure MJ’s instructions were “Iso, run off the clock, get a shot that gives us a chance to win, and if you miss we go to OT” Monta did exactly that.

"Alex is balling. He’s balling out." - Frank Gore

by bradyk2 on Feb 23, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Warriors would be

two games out of the 8th in the East.
Would have taken this even in a non lock-out season….
Lot of games left.
Steph’s fine. No Skills Competition. Ekpe’s fine. The Warriors will make some noise in the second half.

"I'll have to look at the tape" - Mark Jackson

by okeephoss on Feb 22, 2012 8:42 PM PST reply actions  

At least there is a six day break

to try and get Ekpe and Steph healed. Without them we are in trouble.

by dinohealth on Feb 22, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Props to Dom Mcguire

But I just had to vote Monta

by Xtremelink on Feb 22, 2012 8:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

allowing the suns to close the gap sucked

but coming out with the win was good

Haters Gonna Hate

by Wreckonized on Feb 22, 2012 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

Of course it sucked...

but, unfortunately, it wouldn’t be a Warriors game if it wasn’t close in the 4th quarter.

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by JonDoe on Feb 23, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

How much do you think it sucked for us?

It was Bizarro Suns. The starters sucked to start, the bench played well, we won the 2nd quarter, Channing Frye was playing well inside, Shannon Brown made a few good basketball plays… Yet we still lost. Sigh.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 23, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

all about that first quarter

multiple guys were ringing it up, our defense was good…just hung too many points on you to come back from

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you see Gentry's post game?

He was not pleased with the effort by our starters in that quarter. Not at all.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 23, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

haha, no, but I see it on BSoTS...will have to watch it later

But yeah, understandable….that has got to be one of – if not the – worst quarter of Suns bball in a while.

Warriors earned it though.
We started off with Monta on Steph, and I think it kinda messed you guys up a little. I really don’t like the Steph v. Nash match-up for us, because it seems like Nash has every advantage over Curry. But Monta is a little stronger, and I think he bothered Nash some at the beginning of the game.

We also had Dorell come out all gangbusters on you. One of the biggest complaints about him around here is that he pump fakes himself out of open looks, and then doesn’t know what to do with himself. Last night though, he was really using the pump fake effectively, and actually taking it to the hole.

hell, looking at the game flow now, our whole team was going off in the 1st.

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

If I were Nash dribbling down the court....

…. and saw Monta guarding Steph it would definitely mess me up.

by warriorsablaze on Feb 23, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

haha, oops

*Monta on Nash

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Why didn't Beans come in for D when the Suns were making their run

I don’t understand that if the reason MJ gives for Beans starting is his D, then why wouldn’t he use him at the point in the game when we most needed D. Especially against their bigs who were killing us. We were plus 6 with Beans in the game….

by CoreyV on Feb 23, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Now prepare for the FO to stand pat during the ASB again

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by doubleteapot on Feb 22, 2012 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

we all saw it coming

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

One day Udoh looks like a starting center. The next day he looks completely useless at the center spot.

Today he showed weakness and incompetence. He absolutely cannot guard larger centers, and he also cannot grab an effin defensive rebound. Thats the reason Mark had to go with Dlee at center. Thats the reason the game was close. Would have been a blowout if our center could actually grab a board.

by MonstaEllis on Feb 22, 2012 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

he's hurt dude

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

what do you mean perhaps

he IS hurt

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

i mean really did you even watch the game?

they only showed it like 5 times

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

i said "hes hurt dude", you said "perhaps"

was i supposed to get a separate meaning from that? maybe you should be more clear

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

actually you inferred from my statement "he's hurt dude" that i was talking about why he was bad.

i was actually saying “he’s hurt dude” as a way of saying lay off him. perhaps you shouldn’t assume what you think i said is what i actually said.

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

he's been great defensively his entire career

being bad in one game doesn’t change that. i’m pretty sure he’s proven that he is a good defender.

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

and the fact that he was playing hurt in the one game you're singling out makes it even dumber

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:14 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

He has NEVER played good defense against physically larger centers.

Thats my POINT. He can play stellar defense against PFs, that don’t mean he can be a center. He needs to be able to guard other centers who post up against him, and he needs to be able to rebound. Whats your arguement for that?

by MonstaEllis on Feb 22, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

gortat is not a physically large center

deandre is bigger, and udoh did just fine against him

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

keep moving those goalposts

it just weakens your argument

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I question his ability to guard centers and rebound effectively on the defensive end, because fact is, there is hardly any evidence to show otherwise.

Granted he does need more pt at center to give him opportunity to show otherwise. However, if you think his performance against the offensively incompetent deandre jordan is proof that he can guard centers, you need to look at not only that fact, but also the fact that you contradicted yourself via the ‘one game’ sample size problem.

by MonstaEllis on Feb 22, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

This discussion ties in to what I was saing below about Udoh.

Biedrins has been so underproductive, that I would play Udoh before him. Not that hard to replace 4.6 RBS and 2.4 points per 17 minutes of average game time!

by dinohealth on Feb 22, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

deandre was an example

udoh has been guarding centers his whole nba career. and he’s been good at it

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

and our team gets a higher percentage of available rebounds with udoh on the floor than when he's not on the floor (been the case for both of his seasons)

udoh boxes his man out. just because he doesnt physically grab the rebound doesn’t mean he didn’t contribute to the team getting the rebound.

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

he guards the opposing team's best big man

not exclusively PFs or Cs

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

when he plays with the 2nd unit, he has to guard Cs.

when he plays with lee, he guards the opponents best big man.

and he never plays with beans (like almost literally never)

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

he was on blake for some of the game

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

he kept getting called for phantom fouls when he stuffed blake

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

i really dont remember a whole lot of dlee on blake

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe i was wrong thinking of udoh on deandre

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

perhaps

but then that would lead me to believe that ekpe guards Cs all of the time, not PF’s

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

he never plays with beans

so i don’t think anyone that he actually plays with can guard Cs

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol

Rec’d for making me lol

It took me all day to find some Lin-spiration, it just hit me like a ton of Knicks no Lin - ovation

by Billie_Holiday on Feb 22, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He did pretty well against the clippers front line and they’re MUCH more intimidating than then suns front line

by JustSomeName on Feb 22, 2012 8:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

are you talking about gortat today?

because gortat is 6’11 240, and deandre is 6’11 265. who is “bulkier”?

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

where'd those goalposts go?

ah i see…they have moved

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You better savor where they are now

the next point you make and they’ll move again in the blink of an eye.

by Nith on Feb 22, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

there are only a few "bulky offensive centers in the league"

Howard, Gasol, Bynum, Hibbert

Other than that, Udoh can defend pretty much any center or PF in the league.

Read my Advanced Stats Primer

J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.

(JaVale) Mcgee is better than anybody in this draft.

by Evanz on Feb 23, 2012 3:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Nene tossed Udoh aside a couple times in Denver. But I bet Ekpe gets better in a season or two.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart

by kenntoe on Feb 23, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Title change

Someone said the Suns announcers said it was a 21 pt lead

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 22, 2012 9:02 PM PST reply actions  

they're wrong

we had a couple 19 point leads, but phoenix always scored the next basket

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

sigh

i guess i’ll have to research the play-by-play myself to find out

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 22, 2012 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry im wrong

we were up 59-38

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Mcguire's gotta be the WW

Respect to Monta and his great night, but Mcguire absolutely changed the game with his D, hustle, and fantastic rebounding. When Jackson subbed him out for Lee and DWright in the 4th you could see the momentum swing to Phoniex as Frye was able to bully Rush and Wright in the post. When Mcguire came back in, thats when we were able to close out the game

by warriorsandgiantsfan on Feb 22, 2012 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

Also nice to see Wright get his stroke back

I still think he should come off the bench though, his defense at the SF spot is still soft and he’s still prone to making mistakes off of his pump fakes

by warriorsandgiantsfan on Feb 22, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I love having a defensive guy like that.

and he rebounds.. nice.. I know ppl knock his offensive game alot to the point that it negates his defense but i just dont see that when i see him play… and i like the luxury of throwing him on whoever we need to stop.. (and using Udoh to stop the bigger that we need to stop)

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Feb 22, 2012 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I really don’t understand why Jackson likes to go so small. Has it EVER worked for us this season? These last 2 games against the Suns…whenever we went small they would just dump it down to Frye because either Dorell or BRush was guarding him. Frye had his way down there, and he’s not even a post player. Once we stopped going small things turned around again.

by bObaBaLLa on Feb 23, 2012 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

no historical knowledge?

I mean, our whole “roster overhaul” (FWIW) in the recent past has been trying to get bigger and more fundamentally sound.

On the other hand, McGuire got almost 20 minutes…at some point, you just gotta play through your rotation. Still, It would have been nice to see Tyler get 5-10 minutes

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Added

Jim interviews Monta right after the game. Rush, DWright tweets.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 22, 2012 9:23 PM PST reply actions  

I think if Ekpe had started

we would have had a different performance from him. I mean he only took one shot! Major Jackson took the wind right out of Udoh’s sails. Totally destroyed the newfound chemistry by benching him after that performance he gave last game. If Lee, Curry and Wright had not palayed so well in the first quarter, we would be sitting here talking about Biedrins’ 2 points and 3 RBs again!

by dinohealth on Feb 22, 2012 9:26 PM PST reply actions  

I'd rather have Biedrins in than Udoh today. Theres a reason Udoh didnt play in crunch time, he was absolutely mandhandled down low and couldnt grab a rebound to save his life. x

May have been due to injury. But what is certain is that his ineffectiveness on the defensive end left MJ with no choice but to put Dlee at center who though garbage on defense, is offensively certainly better than udoh and can still make plays, get to the line etc.

by MonstaEllis on Feb 22, 2012 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you are right. Maybe he was hurt.

I bet if he had started as reward for what he showed last game, the adrenalin wouldn’t have allowed him to feel any pain! I mean you talk about Biedrins and rebounds, you realize that his contribution was 3! Udoh, in his hurt, limited role, had 4!

by dinohealth on Feb 22, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Johnson was replaced already

By Durant in the 3-point contest, and Rondo in the All-Star Game

Steph’s likely to be replaced in the Skill Challenge by someone already going to All-Star Weekend that isn’t participating. I’d bet it’s Jeremy Lin and if not Nash.

It seems we’ve lost our only ASW participant.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Feb 22, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, pathetic.

Rush is staying home! Go figure!

by dinohealth on Feb 22, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

id rather have no participant than have steph try to do it through his injury

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

You think Steph is about to miss a chance to be seen by the world? My money says he participates. Ayeesha is ready to hit up Orlando.

by J-RIDAH on Feb 22, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

because the whole world watches the skills competition?

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep. People will be watching all around the world. Not the whole world but its a part of a big event. No way he misses it. Its alot of stuff that goes into being a part of the allstar weekend. Alotta perks, if he dont participate he has no excuse for being in Orlando at the festivities. Its better for his brand to be there. Its a marketing opportunity for the SC30 brand. He’s gonna be there.

by J-RIDAH on Feb 22, 2012 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

if he's healthy, im sure he'll be there

if he’s not, how good is he going to look limping through the obstacles?

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If he wrap it tight enough he could get thru it.

by J-RIDAH on Feb 22, 2012 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

No way he misses it.
He’s gonna be there.

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 23, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

minus one cookie, J Ridah

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I was wrong. It was my opinion. I thought he’d be missing too much money by not going but he’s still going, just not participating in the skills challenge.

by J-RIDAH on Feb 23, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

You legitimately say things will happen and guarantee them.

Then you come back later saying that’s just what you think. Don’t get it twisted, we’re not similar.

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 24, 2012 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

If you misinterpret his assurances of its accuracy to be a statement of fact, that’d be your problem, not his.

Nah. To the extent that excessive certainty in one’s own opinions and predictions is a “problem” at all, it is definitely a hallmark of J-R’s rhetorical style, and a quality that seems to annoy a lot of people on this site. I mean, yeah, we all occasionally state our opinions with excessive self-confidence or arrogance. But as GSC notes, that’s not exactly the same as pretending to know what will happen in the future. Nobody likes a false prophet.

I know it might sound superfluous a lot of the time, but softening one’s rhetoric with the occasional “probably” or " I think"or “imho” goes a long way on a site like this. It tends to show humility, maturity, and an understanding of the nature of randomness and chance — all qualities that to I think enhance your persuasiveness and credibility in eyes of most readers.

imho. ;-)

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 24, 2012 7:24 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I agree with this:

I know it might sound superfluous a lot of the time, but softening one’s rhetoric with the occasional "probably" or " I think"or "imho" goes a long way on a site like this. It tends to show humility, maturity, and an understanding of the nature of randomness and chance — all qualities that to I think enhance your persuasiveness and credibility in eyes of most readers.

But his certainty doesn’t bother me much at all, and I don’t see why it should. Even if it’s annoying to some people, it just says to me that he trusts his own opinion a lot.

People just don’t like to be told their wrong when it comes to opinions, or hear about how someone knows they’re right. Nobody does, and the way J-Ridah states his opinions can seem off-putting if you don’t look at it the way he means it. Obviously, if you disagree with what he’s saying, it seems like he’s trying to make you seem like an idiot for not believing the same thing. His approach is an aggressive one that sometimes blocks out all other possibilities. Bottom line, though, is that he just has a different way of representing our opinions, and he does it by choosing to guarantee his more than most people are willing to.

To me, he’s no more annoying than someone who asks you if you want to make a bet everytime you disagree about something. Those kind of people just make things more interesting.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Feb 24, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

this should be green

let’s not lose sight of our common interest

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 24, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

hey J Ridah

you actually had me somewhat convinced/worried.

I could definitely see Steph pushing it in order to be involved in all-star weekend.

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 24, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I never said I knew for a fact or had some inside knowledge of him playing. Its obvious it was my opinion. When I say a trade will occur next month if this team is not at 500 or above thats not a opinion its inside knowledge on the team’s thinking. Me saying he was gonna play is no different than somebody saying Mark Jackson is not gonna put Jeremy Tyler in the game. But just because I have stated insider things that only the front office would know im expected to be more selective with more words on here?

by J-RIDAH on Feb 24, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

nah man, keep doing what your doing

you are definitely one of the more entertaining posters on this site. I just think you get some backlash because of your tone, and your style of discussion/ unwillingness to change your opinion.

for all the crap you took over the whole nightclubs thing, it’s actually a valid point, more or less.

and as far as this one goes, I’m sure that if Steph was even remotely able to go, he would have participated. But watching him in that last game, it was pretty clear that his leg was cooked

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 24, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Probably about as good as this guy...

It took me all day to find some Lin-spiration, it just hit me like a ton of Knicks no Lin - ovation

by Billie_Holiday on Feb 22, 2012 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely.

I just think the NBA had poor planning. If it were me, I’d have EXPECTED Steph to miss the contest and chosen one of our shooters, or Klay to the Rising Stars

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Feb 22, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

how pathetic!

durant was shameful last time he was in the 3pt comp!!!

by maryjane on Feb 22, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.

Kinda annoyed me, then I remember I have no reason to watch anyway.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Feb 22, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

it's funny though how sometimes the person who seems like the worst choice for the contest ends out winning it

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 22, 2012 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Johnson has already been replaced. Curry not.

Who knows? They might replace him with Lin in the skills contest…

by dinohealth on Feb 22, 2012 9:31 PM PST reply actions  

Added

gameflow. Rusty recap. CSN highlights, recap.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 22, 2012 9:33 PM PST reply actions  

Hey guys!

Good job beating the Suns!

Proud to be a brony.

by yoshifan on Feb 22, 2012 9:34 PM PST reply actions  

Added

nba.com highlights, recap. Mark Jackson in the hallway.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 22, 2012 9:50 PM PST reply actions  

Now do yall see why I was demanding we sign Mcguire 8 months ago?

by J-RIDAH on Feb 22, 2012 9:50 PM PST reply actions  

Yea you called it

I was on your side with that signing too though lol

by warriorsandgiantsfan on Feb 22, 2012 9:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

dave chappelle dunking on the lowered hoop had my dying

by Staticlysmic on Feb 22, 2012 10:05 PM PST reply actions  

Monta is clutch... but props to D-Mac

Huge shot by Monta… he carried the team in the 4th quarter..

But my WW goes to Dominic McGuire… the lone man on the boards and defense for the Dubs.. I had no idea who dude was prior to popping in NBA 2k12 (lol) and I’m happy dude is making such big contributions with the LITTLE things. He also saved my voice because I was yelling at my TV after every damn offensive rebound PHX was grabbing (so many…)

by SnakeEyez925 on Feb 22, 2012 10:20 PM PST reply actions  

Mcguire is the reason you should never judge a player based on offensive stats. He’s won 2 games late in the 4th on defense and hustle. He can defend 4 positions.

by J-RIDAH on Feb 22, 2012 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Added

MT2 recap. MT2 tweet on what Curry strained. 1 note and pics about what Curry strained.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 22, 2012 10:24 PM PST reply actions  

Ronalidno is probably losing his mind over that last Monta iso…. Glad he made it though… Kinda looked like a travel.

It took me all day to find some Lin-spiration, it just hit me like a ton of Knicks no Lin - ovation

by Billie_Holiday on Feb 22, 2012 10:29 PM PST reply actions  

Glad he made it.

That’s a horrible shot – it’s a well-defended, conested-by-a-taller-player, off-balance mid-range jumper when he was turned around and not set the moment before he shot it.

It’s his tendency to take shots like that which is why Monta is something like 1-6 on game winners this year, including that shot.

And it’s not like I haven’t said this before: a bad shot is a bad shot even when it goes in. Sometimes you get lucky and it goes in. Better to get a higher-percentage shot.

This one is on the coaches, though. They didn’t even try to run a play. Although given how clumsy the Monta-Lee connection has looked on PnRs lately, it’s hard to think that’s the option they should have run.

At the very least they used player motion to clear out a side and take the help away. However, it also telegraphed what Monta was going to do and probably contributed to the solid defense Monta faced on the shot.

by Ronaldinho on Feb 22, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

bq, It’s his tendency to take shots like that which is why Monta is something like 1-6 on game winners this year, including that shot.

if you count the couple times he didn’t even get a shot off (the miami game, the indiana missed kick ball), it’s even worse.

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 23, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think he meant to take a turnaround fadeaway, but Hill played great defense on him and forced Monta to pick up the ball. Monta had no other shooting option but to take that kind of shot, and I’m glad he was able to sink it. I agree it’s not the kind of shot I like seeing him take, but I think the fact that it was a tie game changes the strategy a bit as well. I’m just glad he didn’t turn it over like he did against the Pacers (exact same situation), and actually got some kind of shot off before time expired.

by bObaBaLLa on Feb 23, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think he meant to take a turnaround fadeaway

I’m sure he didn’t. I suspect he wanted to get to the rim – or at least get the defender moving backwards so he had some room for a pull-up jumper.

But the fact that he had to settle for that shot is exactly the problem.

by Ronaldinho on Feb 23, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

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warriors.com audio, quotes.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 22, 2012 10:31 PM PST reply actions  

Great shot by Monta.

I just don’t understand how Mark Jackson could call that play AGAIN. But he seemed to be a huge fan of those plays as an announcer so…whatever.

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 22, 2012 10:42 PM PST reply actions  

MOnta fan

I don’t like those isos at the end of games either… But when it goes in, it’s like having a 12 in blackjack and doubling down to see 9!!!!!!!!

It took me all day to find some Lin-spiration, it just hit me like a ton of Knicks no Lin - ovation

by Billie_Holiday on Feb 22, 2012 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

dude look at the last few close losses we had

we couldnt get a shot off against OKC and the GRIZZ. An Ellis Iso guarantees us a shot at least.

Anyway Ellis hits the harder ones more often than the wide open all day types

by maryjane on Feb 22, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

An Ellis Iso guarantees us a shot at least.

So what happened against Miami and Utah?

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 22, 2012 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

percentage wise he gets more shots off than the team trying to run a play

Utah he got the shot- he missed.

Miami i admit he failed. But I don’t think he was the guy to take the final shot that game. Personally I think the coach drew up the shot for Dwright or something

by maryjane on Feb 22, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

So does a shot from half court, that doesn’t mean it is the best option.

by belilaugh on Feb 22, 2012 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

No it isn't...but i digress.

Some people just like a form of basketball that just isn’t conductive to winning.

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 22, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

whatever dude

Come on what would you have done. Lets say curry was available.

I’ve said this so many times to you… I support the warriors first. Individuals second. I want to win every game. The same can’t be said of all the GSOM community sitting on the tank

by maryjane on Feb 22, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I support the warriors first too.

Monta’s 1-6 on GW’s this year and they’ve all been those type of shots. When will the coach call a better play?

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 23, 2012 7:38 AM PST up reply actions  

not going to happen

Mark “put the ball in the hands of your best player, and let him go to work”Jackson loves the iso in end-game situations.

but yeah, I agree 100%, I also think it may explain why we have lost so many close games this year…
that was not a good basketball shot, Monta made it, YAY!!
but in general, I would much prefer some off-ball movement, screens, anything to get a jump shot with a little space.

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Monta ISO is best option in this situation

The W’s haven’t shown a lot of ability to run a play AND manage the clock like you need to do in this situation. If the Sun’s had 3 secs, instead of 1, I think the outcome would have been worse.

Also, Let’s face it, there’s only 2-3 players on this team that really WANT the last shot: Ellis, Robinson, and maybe Thompson. Lee and Curry will take it if the play is designed for them, but you can see the emotional deflation in them when they miss. Fear of failure is not helpful in these situations.

by TrueGSfan on Feb 23, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

ok, well...agree to disagree
Monta ISO is best option in this situation

Monta on Grant Hill in an isolation situation is not really a good way to get a quality look.
Fine, you want Monta to take it, at least have him come off a staggered screen to get the ball.

I came away happy last night, he made the shot, we won.
But as a general rule, that was not a good look

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

We've done far more wrong at the end of games than just miss the last shot.

Saying that we’re losing these games because of end-of-game isos is wrong outside of the Indiana game, in which the iso bit us in the ass because of the kick ball. Even if you’re great in the final possession, the best you can hope for 50/50 chance. And that’s at best. If you have a lead in the 4th, it really shouldn’t even come to that. Since it’s clear we don’t have a great closer or come up with good team plays, blowing the lead in the first place is clearly the reason we’re not winning games. We really shouldn’t even expect better than what we’ve gotten on final possessions.

Maybe a Monta iso isn’t the best option we have, but we’ve really yet to establish a better one with the starters on the court. The only other clutch final possession shot I can think of is the Klay jumper in the corner against the Kings in the OT game we lost. We’ve run the pick and roll and it hasn’t worked. We’ve gone to David Lee, and it hasn’t worked. We’ve tried Nate, and it hasn’t worked. Clearly, you’d now look to Steph to get an opportunity, but I don’t think he’s stepped up into that role. He’s done a lot of disappearing at crucial times, so I can see how it would be hard for Jackson to call his number at the end of a game. He’s gotten 1 last-second opportunity to my memory, and it didn’t work out. So there’s still nothing to suggest we have better options than going to Monta. He did decently in those situations last year, and while it hasn’t worked as well this year, we’ve yet to have anything else work. So you go with what you got. And what we got is Monta, for better or worse.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Feb 24, 2012 12:18 AM PST up reply actions  

the 1-6 on gamewinners are kinda inaccurate imo

Do they count a missed gamewinners on the couple times Monta couldn’t even get a shot off/TO? They also count the 3s missed where there were still 15+sec left. If they count those why do they not count the ones Monta made with 30sec-1min left which just happened that the other team came back and scored on our horrible D or incapable of getting a rebound? There were at least a couple times where he made a game-tying 3 with maybe 40sec left and the and-1 against okc that tied the game. But of course those don’t count as we lost those games which ain’t even his fault.

by Raiiny on Feb 24, 2012 1:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Monta’s actually doing a lot better on possessions in the final two minutes that aren’t in the final 24 seconds. And I’m not sure about your question of counting the opportunities where we failed to get a shot off. Since I haven’t counted myself, and I trust Marcus Thompson, I’ll say 1 for 6 is probably just the shot attempts, but I couldn’t be sure. It seems like a lot, but we’ve had a lot of close games.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Feb 24, 2012 1:22 AM PST up reply actions  

another factor at play, IMO

is the lack of practice time.

New coaching staff across the board, shortened training camp. We may have simply not had enough time to go through all the end-of-game scenarios

"I am very worried about the Warriors"
-brutusbrutus

by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 24, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe.

But there are a few new coaching regimes around the league who are coping better with the short off-season. We’ve been lucky enough to have more practice time than almost any other team to this point, because of our somewhat sparse (in comparison) schedule and lack of travel (home games).

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Feb 24, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

We've gone to David Lee for the final shot ONCE ...

… and he got an imperfect pass from Monta which killed his momentum and forced him to kick it back out.

We’ve run the pick and roll how many times on the final possession? Twice?

You’re right that there’s a much larger problem that just our last-second shots. What I see is that our entire offense gets the yips in crunch time, and we become much more iso-oritented, and the guys off the ball do a lot more standing around.

To me, that says something about an overall lack of confidence in team offense. I think if we fix that, it should naturally spill over into improved end-of-game plays.

So there’s still nothing to suggest we have better options than going to Monta.

Well, the problem with this logic is that until we try something else with some consistency, we will never have the evidence to see if something else is a better choice.

He did decently in those situations last year, and while it hasn’t worked as well this year, we’ve yet to have anything else work.

This depends a lot on your definition of the words “did decently.”

Monta made some impressively difficult shots to win games last year, no doubt. On the other hand, I would argue that the fact that he was taking impressively difficult shots represents something of a failure. Fans have a tendency to talk about “clutch” but the simple truth is that making a bad shot a few times (even in a row) doesn’t turn it into a good shot – and the reality is that the player who gets a high-percentage shot is, in the long run, going to be a lot more successful than the guy who takes a difficult one.

by Ronaldinho on Feb 24, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I still don't see how either of the game-winners he hit last year were bad shots.

If you told me that was the shot we’d get to try to win every game where we’re either tied or trailing in the final possession, I’d be pretty happy.

You’re acting as if I didn’t point out the fact that we don’t go to other plays very often. The idea here is, we tried a few times to do something else, and didn’t succeed. Which is clearly the reason we went back to Monta on an isolation. Now that it has been the only thing to work this season, I doubt our end of game play changes other than a case where the other team is unhappy with giving up and isolation and they double. I also pointed out that it may not actually be our best option, but over the past season and a half, it’s been what works, while basically nothing else has. It has failed more often than not, but has anyone else besides Monta and Klay hit a game-tying or go-ahead shot on our final possession?

To me, that says something about an overall lack of confidence in team offense. I think if we fix that, it should naturally spill over into improved end-of-game plays.

True. But how do you fix that mid-season? You can’t try a brand new scheme that players will have more confidence in.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Feb 24, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Fixed

Mark Jackson’s mindset is struck with stupidity at the end of games. Give the ball to the best shot creator and let him work.

It took me all day to find some Lin-spiration, it just hit me like a ton of Knicks no Lin - ovation

by Billie_Holiday on Feb 22, 2012 10:47 PM PST reply actions  

I call Keith smart and tell him to iPhone over a in bounds play to us… That is the only thing I miss about smart… Oh those in bound plays

It took me all day to find some Lin-spiration, it just hit me like a ton of Knicks no Lin - ovation

by Billie_Holiday on Feb 22, 2012 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

But there was plenty of time on the clock

Smart’s inbound plays usually led to a quick score

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 22, 2012 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Last thing you wanted in the game last night was a quick score.

by TrueGSfan on Feb 23, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Those were all Nellie plays

Sittin in my scraper watchin Oakland goin wild, ta-dow!

by Supafishal on Feb 23, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Does it matter?

They’re still in Smart’s arsenal as a coach, and he uses them well.

Most coaches learn everything they know from someone else.

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Feb 24, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

That was an awful shot.

But a great shot, if that makes sense.

by belilaugh on Feb 22, 2012 11:06 PM PST reply actions  

It was a bad/tough shot

But at least try to be happy that he made it and we got the win. Some here just seems to always be in negative mode, and are just “meh” even when they pull out a tough win. Almost like they just watch the games to torture themselves. Maybe when the Warriors win a championship is when this place gets a cheerful vibe instead of all this complaining.

by Raiiny on Feb 22, 2012 11:22 PM PST reply actions  

Curry's injury is somewhat interesting.

From a brief google search, the tendon that he strained provides the arch in a foot which helps reduce loading the INSIDE of the foot. Anyone think this has to do with whatever is being done to treat/prevent him from loading the OUTSIDE of his foot, which has been linked to his ankle sprains? Is the tendon being put under too much stress now?

Anyone know more about the tendon that he strained?

Serving it up night in and night out -Steph "The Chef" Curry

by dont_stop_believin' on Feb 22, 2012 11:31 PM PST reply actions  

Nevermind, its the right foot.

Serving it up night in and night out -Steph "The Chef" Curry

by dont_stop_believin' on Feb 22, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked the theory though…

Over

by cybermaldonado on Feb 22, 2012 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually the right ankle is the really bad ankle. The theory is still a stretch though.

Serving it up night in and night out -Steph "The Chef" Curry

by dont_stop_believin' on Feb 22, 2012 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

One thing I know

is that he injured it when he really ACCELERATED to the basket. I hadn’t seen him put on such a burst of speed before. Perhaps that acceleration helped make it easier to hurt this tendon?

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 22, 2012 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha are you making fun of my CAPS?

Serving it up night in and night out -Steph "The Chef" Curry

by dont_stop_believin' on Feb 23, 2012 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

nope

i really meant to emphasize “accelerated”, because Curry really put on an unexpected burst of speed, and even before he landed, a flash of worry crossed my mind.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 23, 2012 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh I thought it was hilarious.

Serving it up night in and night out -Steph "The Chef" Curry

by dont_stop_believin' on Feb 23, 2012 1:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Great to see Dorell be aggressive going to the basket!

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by LostHawkGSW on Feb 22, 2012 11:42 PM PST reply actions  

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by IQofaWarrior on Feb 22, 2012 11:52 PM PST reply actions  

lol

I can’t either, but if he were on the Warriors, I’d love him.

by centerre on Feb 23, 2012 12:38 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

sounds like lou amundson

by JustSomeName on Feb 23, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

Mr fake tough guy

It took me all day to find some Lin-spiration, it just hit me like a ton of Knicks no Lin - ovation

by Billie_Holiday on Feb 23, 2012 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Added

Rusty postgame article on Monta’s hitting a game winning shot.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 23, 2012 12:30 AM PST reply actions  

Jackson managed to come up with greater nonsense to say

after this win, than his usual loser’s post mortem. we’re supposed to believe he’d choose that way to win ? [of course it’s easy to say when the outcome is known].

let’s not overlook, the game was tied when they set up the last Ellis isolation ; would they do the same if they were down one or two points ? failing that possession, they still have an o.k. chance at overtime ; how has Ellis fared when facing a certain loss ?

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by the.monk on Feb 23, 2012 12:35 AM PST reply actions  

i understand how you would get that

but i read the quote as he would rather us win in a close game by grinding it out then to win by a large margin. This would give our rather new team more experience in those types of situations.

by stereotada on Feb 23, 2012 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

it wasn't really a win from 'grinding it out' though

‘grinding’ implies persistence and constant effort. does the team need more experience in letting a weak team rally back so it has to struggle to finish and rely on a low percentage shot to close ? they gained more experience in letting a double digit lead evaporate and failing to complete defensive stops with a rebound — is that what the coach wants to repeat in order to get two minutes of focus in the fourth quarter ?

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by the.monk on Feb 23, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

no.3 on NBA top ten

I think it’s NBA protocol to ensure Blake Griffin is top 2 every night the clipshow plays

by maryjane on Feb 23, 2012 3:41 AM PST reply actions  

BRush also has this.

You would never know, since he doesn’t complain, though.

by picknpop on Feb 23, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

are you sure, doc?
Sounds like Steph has plantar faciatis

IQ provided some pretty specific info above, no mention of this.

It’s that same right leg though. Different injury, but his ankle/foot seems to be in pretty bad shape

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

No, I'm not sure

But if it is plantar faciitis then it will most likely linger for a long time.

by Doctor Kajita on Feb 23, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, well...whatever the docs end up diagnosing

I think it’s a given that his lower leg problems aren’t going away anytime soon

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

haha, or bionic

looks pretty burly actually

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

On BSotS's gamethread:
Ellis all the way

Feel the burn!!!

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by Potential on Feb 22, 2012 8:47 PM PST reply actions

Who is this guy? Does he really get that much satisfaction from beating a sub-.500 team?

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 23, 2012 8:29 AM PST reply actions  

We're Warriors fans...

…. we have very low expectations.

Sounds like he was just trollin’ you guys….

by warriorsablaze on Feb 23, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Congrats on the win btw.

Heck of a shot by Ellis.

I really hope Steph Curry can get past these ankle/foot issues. I really like him as a player and he’s too young to be going through this kind of thing already.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 23, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaa, sorry dude...whoever this guy is, he's clearly delusional
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good game though, felt like a good ol’ fashioned Warriors-Suns shootout.

Steve Nash should really shoot more, btw.
I know he’s trying to get everyone involved, but he is way too deadeye to not take more attempts per game

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

A lot of us agree.

I’m thinking he was a little banged up/tired. He goes through stretches like this where he doesn’t even look to shoot. Hopefully the break will allow him to recharge his batteries, even though he’s playing Sunday.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 23, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I love Nash
hopefully, he can get in some beach time with Baron

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I read an article yesterday

that there is a higher probability of hitting a game winning shot when the score is tie…than when you are down 1 or 2 pts

It works with Monta and Luke Ridnour yesterday they both hit the winning shot with a tie score.

It works with Channing Fry too he miss the winning 3 pt shot.

That is why don’t quit school kids study and research works.

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by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT

by mykelala01 on Feb 23, 2012 8:36 AM PST reply actions  

cite the source and give us the link

otherwise few game samples don’t help your point. I could bring up a ton of missed game winners where the score was tied and a bunch of game winners when the score isn’t tied…

by Nith on Feb 23, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I love too dude

But I say article. Which means I read it on a magazines. Which I was on a waiting room on my dental apointment. What’s wrong with kids these days. Everyone thinks every article got a link on world wide web. That is why most of magazine publication went out of bussiness.

But if you use your common knowledge. You don’t need to think hard. If the score is tie and you got the last shot. The pressure and stress of making that shot, is different than when you are down 1 or 2 pts. The worst thing, the game goes to overtime. You dont need proof it is called human nature.

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by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT

by mykelala01 on Feb 23, 2012 12:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

looking only at Ellis' sample this season

isn’t he 1-2 with the game tied, and 0-4 when they’re behind 1-3 points for his final shot ? there’s obviously a defensive factor — if the defender’s team is leading, the tactics and pressure alter according to the clock and the size of the lead.

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by the.monk on Feb 23, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

is different than when you are down 1 or 2 pts.

Well, for thing, if you’re down two points, a game-winning shot has to be a three-pointer, which obviously lowers your chances of hitting it. If this “article” is conflating the down-1 and down-2 situations, I’m already dubious.

That said, I wouldn’t be that surprised to find that the overall shooting % in a last-second /tied situation is slightly higher than when you’re down one. As you note, the “pressure and stress” on the shooter seems significantly lower when you’re tied.

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by Sleepy Freud on Feb 23, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

rec'd

now that right there is a grown-man’s follow up move

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 23, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What a shot!

Great defense by G. Hill; Monta made a great shot! So glad they are going into the break with winning the 2-in-a-row.

Better beat the Wizards.

by Currys_Sprained_Ankle on Feb 23, 2012 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

You shouldn't have a problem with them.

That’s a bad, bad basketball team.

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 23, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

True...

But they have done really well against winning teams this year and then really poorly against the lottery teams.

by Currys_Sprained_Ankle on Feb 23, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

we lost to charlotte! everyone’s a problem for us

by AJC3317 on Feb 23, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Enjoy the break everybody! Hope our walking-wounded Warriors heal.

And, don’t forget to tune in tonight and see how real Lin really is as the Knicks take on the sizzling Miami Heat, in Miami! The Knicks seemed to have distributed well to Melo, Studemire, Chandler, etc, and the bench came up strong, in the game vs the depleted Atlanta Hawks. Back-to-back, and in Miami, should tell us a lot about our former Warrior, and 2X-in-a-row, SI cover poster boy (only MJ was 3X-in-a-row; will change, in the unlikely event that Knicks upset Miami) . Prediction: Too soon for Melo, Stud, and the rest of the team to have transitioned to the Lin game and play at the high level of efficiency required to beat Miami at this stage. Miami by 20, unless what I saw in Atlanta is the low end of a continued transition curve. My bet is that Miami will disrupt that transition curve!.

by dinohealth on Feb 23, 2012 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

And, that's the way it was!

Miami clamped down on Lin’s heroics (1-11 shooting, 3 assists, 8 tos), and continuede to roll, winning by 14. Knicks shot 39% from the floor, had 19 tos, and, proved that they are not ready yet to challenge the premier team in the NBA.

by dinohealth on Feb 23, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Big props to Nate Robinson too

Dude hit some huge shots down the stretch, definitely took some pressure off Ellis carrying the load.

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by Potential on Feb 23, 2012 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

Anyone know where i can listen to the Tim roye highlights from last nights game?

by StephCurry4President on Feb 23, 2012 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

From MT2

Warriors PG Stephen Curry Skipping Orlando to Rest His Ailing Right Foot

Curry sustained the injury at the 2:29 mark of the first quarter. He said he felt the pain – "It was something I’ve never felt before" – on the push-off as he went up for a layup. He tried to come back. But he could hardly move playing the final 18 seconds of the half.

So I think Curry strained this tendon when he put on that extra burst of speed to try to beat the defense to the layup.

Man, it feels like Curry doesn’t have much of an athletic body. He can’t over stress it or he’ll step the wrong way and sprain an ankle, or strain a tendon. I’m a little concerned about what this means for his floor game. I guess it means he needs to focus on beating his opponents with cleverness, and not athleticism.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 23, 2012 9:12 PM PST reply actions  

How would that help Curry out?

He’s already sat out for a long time. We had a lock out, which means he sat out for the summer + 2 months.

And the truncated schedule has been good to the Warriors so far, especially when you consider how many home games and how few back-to-back games we’ve had (5 back-to-back pairs of games in the 1st half of the season). By comparison, we’re going to have 7 back-to-back pairs of games in March alone, 8 if you count the back-to-back to close out the month of February.

So I don’t get how this truncated schedule has affected Curry.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 24, 2012 1:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was looking at the Bobcats schedule and they had something like 9 back-to-backs in January, with consecutive stretches of 5 games in 7 days and 5 games in 6 days, which guess what, was followed by 6 games in 8 days (after a 3-day break). Of their 19 games in that month, 12 were road games. That’s absolutely brutal. I’m sure many teams around the league have stretches like this already. We’ve been spared early, with a bunch of home games, and so far no back-to-back-to-backs, but it’s coming. We’ve actually played something much closer to a normal schedule than the entire rest of the league. Every time I think about that, the confidence I have in the team falters. Because, when we do hit a stretch like that, it could end up going terribly wrong.

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by Brownie13 on Feb 24, 2012 1:52 AM PST up reply actions  

this has always been Steph's game in the NBA
I guess it means he needs to focus on beating his opponents with cleverness, and not athleticism.

some of his most memorable moves are ball fakes (I’m thinking about the Birdman play). Sucks that Steph can’t get healthy. And all indications are that this is a chronic issue (his right wheel).

thankfully, he is still super young, so hopefully this will eventually go away.
I gotta say though, all these injuries have me re-thinking his overall value to the franchise a little bit.

Nate is looking like a very wise acquisition too. Without him, we’d be terribly thin at back-up PG

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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 24, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Off topic but Dominic Mcguire deserves a extension. Go back and look at every minute he’s played as a Warrior and every time he’s defended somebody, Matt Steinmetz gave him the highest grade on the team and I think he deserves it along with DLee. I seen him shut Melo down,Stop some of the league’s best point guards down the stretch and pump fear in guys. Every team needs a Dom. I should be a GM because he’s doing what I said he would do. He can be a taller Tony Allen.

by J-RIDAH on Feb 24, 2012 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

Tony Allen is a decent offensive player.

A far cry from one of the worst in the league.

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 24, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

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