What was Nate Robinson's pre-dubs rep?
by picknpop on Feb 6, 2012 11:04 AM PST
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PrintJust wondering, since I have heard a lot of reference (even by coach Mark Jackson in an interview) as to Nate Robinson's pre-Warriors reputation. I never really followed him specifically (just saw him with the Celtics here and there). What was it that he was known to do that was seen as negative? So far he seems to be a team player, really, really dedicated to the Warriors and to winning in general, and seems to make up for his lack of height in effort and dedication. One point last game when he didn't realize the 24 second clock had run out, he was so angry with himself for missing that and even when he was back on the bench he kept swearing. Seemed like he was taking responsibility to blowing it and was not blaming others.
Just curious.
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Immature
Not a serious player. Too light hearted. A bit of a chucker.
Yep
He’s matured, I think. But he’s still a chucker.
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by doubleteapot on Feb 6, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
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His FGA are slightly down to his career (13.8 per 36 to 14.8). He earned the chucker rep when he was shooting closer to 17 in NYK.
He’s also passing way more. 7.2 assists per 36 (2.1 turnovers !) compared to 4.2 career.
As always, sample size, but if he keeps it up i like him as our backup PG/6th man. Brings a lot of energy, can penetrate.
Unfairly cast as a locker room problem.
Mike D’Antoni has no handle on that New York team, and hasn’t since he got there. The way he handled both Marbury and Nate was terrible.
Sure, Nate liked to shoot a lot and was a bit immature, but can somebody explain to me how J.R. Smith kept getting minutes then? Or a bunch of other players in the NBA. Nate has always played hard, and has always been a good teammate.
He never deserved the reputation he got as a player.
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Sure, Nate liked to shoot a lot and was a bit immature, but can somebody explain to me how J.R. Smith kept getting minutes then?
Because despite his extremely questionable shot selection, J.R. Smith has actually consistently converted his shots efficiently for most of his career. Three straight seasons of outrageous efficiency, followed by a down year, then almost immediately back above average last season. He’s also a bigger guard who plays solid defense, which is something people seem to refuse to give him credit for because of that “chucker” label. Say what you want about his personality and maturity, but he does things that help teams win.
I do agree that Nate has an undeserved rep as a team cancer, but his production isn’t nearly as good as J.R.’s.
by WYK on Feb 6, 2012 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
He plays a different position than J.R. Smith
Small PGs tend to have lower TS% a lot of the time, because it really is harder for them to score with their size disadvantage. But they also usually make up for it with their other skills.
Nate is better at making plays for teammates, and his defense has always been underrated. Yes, he’s limited by his height, but he is an extremely quick and strong player, able to hold his position and stay in front of people. The only place J.R. really has Nate beat is number of 3s and percentage on them. They’re equal rebounders (impressive Nate’s size and being a PG), turn the ball over the same amount of times (Nate’s more of a play-maker), and are near even in just about every other category. Nate makes more plays, J.R. converts better on 3s. Nate’s every bit as good as J.R.
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People have been talking about Nate like what he’s been doing this year is normal for him (in terms of making plays for teammates). It’s very, very out of the norm for him. His entire past suggests he’s horrible in that regard. Hopefully this is a real change for the better, but I don’t see how we can know it is yet.
by Missing Barry on Feb 7, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully this is a real change for the better,
maybe a sign of maturity?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 9, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
thanks for the responses everyone
appreciate it!
I like Nate so far
He’s a good locker room presence, kinda like a glue guy. If we can bring him back for cheap next year I’d definitely be down
i think his energy level is good.
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by Xtremelink on Feb 6, 2012 9:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Compared to Jeremy Lin
I’m from Palo Alto. Went to Paly. And naturally, have followed Lin with much intrigue in the past 6 years or so, although he’s a few years younger than me. Now, I live in New York. And all I’m hearing is Lin Lin Lin. And Kawakami is the same way now.
Robinson is still a very loved player here. I mean, he has a cool story. Inconsistent. And has the ability to make or break your team on any given night. And I remember talking to some Knicks fans here about Robinson and how I felt that he was still decent. They agreed. And you know what, it ain’t bad!
Both the Knicks and Dubs have each others’ table scraps, more or less. Decent point guards who can take over a game, sometimes, when they’re asked to do so. I’ll take it. And I’ll be watching intently to see the progress of both Lin and Robinson…
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