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Lin is expected to be in the starting five after his stunning performance Saturday.

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Wow. I wish we can have a bigger defense minded PG plays for Warriors. Double-Double anyone?

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What did Lin do the other night that Nate didn’t do? Never seen so much hype for 1 game. Lin has been lucky to land in a big asian market every stop he’s made. If he has a game like that in Milwuakee its nothing.

by J-RIDAH on Feb 6, 2012 3:13 PM PST reply actions  

It was not luck. Asians will be dominating all markets soon. Get used to it. Learning Mandarin would be smart.

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by KillaContract on Feb 6, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It was a great game

….but just one game.

He’s at best going to be a good backup in the league, which isn’t trying to take away from being a good backup in the league. Just that, the way people are acting obviously is racially motivated nationally.

I’m happy for him doing well and finding a place where he can get a lot of good playtime around great players, it will only help him improve faster. The hype is obviously overdone, but it’s pretty understandable considering he’s a local here and he is in a racial minority within the NBA being supported by a racial majority in the locations he’s played in.

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by LostHawkGSW on Feb 6, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

What did Lin do the other night that Nate didn’t do?

lead his tired team to a win in the 3rd game of a back to back to back while dominating one of the top pg’s in the game?

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by bigkino217 on Feb 6, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate was pretty amazing in that victory over the Heat, which is a slightly better team than the Nets.

by Pippen on Feb 6, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

yes but that didn't happen the other night, the loss to the kings did

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Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
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by bigkino217 on Feb 6, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm not making any conclusions from the game

he asked a question so i answered it

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 6, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I get it. I’m just trying to give a little love to some of our bench players that have been playing pretty well too.

by Pippen on Feb 6, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Ridiculous

Jeremy Lin isn’t in the NBA because he is Asian. Stop making up the BS that he’s just a marketing gimmick. In fact, it’s the opposite. He’s the only California state HS player of the year ever who wasn’t offered a single D-I basketball scholarship. If his last name were Smith, with his exact skill set he would have started at UCLA and then been a top 10 draft pick.

by BayMind on Feb 8, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

W’s fans are already bitter? Its big news in the NBA because a no-name came off the bench on a team loaded with 2 ball hawking superstars and completely took over the game. Just like when Morrow had 37 his rookie game, and it was big sh*t for a week or so. There’s no “hype”, no one is dubbing him the Asian CP3… its just that his performance was something to talk about. After the abysmal play from the other PGs on the Knicks roster, starting Lin is no surprise to me.

Monta Ellis.

by dandubz on Feb 6, 2012 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

" 2 ball hawking superstars "

don’t you mean ball-hogging ‘superstars’, if you’re talking about Anthony and Stoudemire ? ball hawking means something rather different — persistent and smothering defense, not usually their trade.

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by the.monk on Feb 7, 2012 12:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure ball hogging really fits for Amare. He’s generally been more of a finisher for his career, which means someone else is setting him up. Definitely not a passer, and doesn’t do much to make others better, though.

by Missing Barry on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah

I meant it in the sense that they’re always on the lookout for the ball. But I wouldn’t necessarily call them full-fledged ball-hoggers. Now i need a new word….

Monta Ellis.

by dandubz on Feb 7, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

the nets happen to have Deron Williams who is okay i guess… just a top 3 pg in the nba

by Lam1234 on Feb 6, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Deron’s a very good player, but defense isn’t exactly his strong suit.

by Missing Barry on Feb 6, 2012 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Against Deron Williams

Deron Williams is only one of the top 3 point guards in the entire league. Deron also was completely shut down after Lin started guarding him late in the 1st quarter. Lin held Deron Williams and Devin Harris to a combined 5 for 18 shooting.

by BayMind on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Deron Williams D is pretty weak, but you have a good point about the other side of the ball. Always a good performance to stop him, because he’s a heck of an offensive player.

by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

A game against the Jazz should help see if Lin's a fluke or forreal

He’s going to have a lot of trouble driving in with all those bigs

Honestly though, I’m just happy that a former undrafted Warrior is getting a chance like this, especially since he himself is home grown from the Bay. The Knicks desperately needed a PG (Toney can’t pass and Shumpert’s better at SG) and in MDA’s system, any decent PG will do (he worked with Duhon after all)

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by lameallenmark on Feb 6, 2012 4:30 PM PST reply actions  

It is easy and straight forward

Just drive and kick, or finish the shot strong to get a foul. Why no one in Warriors team think of that?

by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Feb 6, 2012 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

20 pts / 8 ast now

On the downside: 0 reb, 7 tov…

There will be no extra point!

by Sleepy Freud on Feb 6, 2012 6:40 PM PST reply actions  

28pt-8ast

10-17 shooting. 8 turnovers though.

He plays solid defense though. On every possession, he actually puts effort into putting a hand up on shooters and tries to stay in front of his man.

by tayuku on Feb 6, 2012 7:05 PM PST reply actions  

tsk tsk lin

keeps lowering his per 36s with these games lol

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 6, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

he also basically had to do everything with melo and amare out

"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah

Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo

by bigkino217 on Feb 6, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

He played

the entire second half! Mike D, what are you doing?

Couldn’t stop laughing when the commentator said “We haven’t seen Lin that often but he always looks tired!” or something along those lines.

by disguy on Feb 6, 2012 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that a real shot? That’s gross.

by Missing Barry on Feb 6, 2012 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s only a partial excuse for his awful form.

by Missing Barry on Feb 6, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

His form is not the greatest, but that was not his real shot/form. He doesn’t release it that fast, and usually has a lot more balance and lift. He had to shoot it fast to beat the shot clock.

by bObaBaLLa on Feb 7, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh, S-Jax and the human black hole (Magette) sucked after leaving us

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by doubleteapot on Feb 6, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I love what Lin has done these last two games.

What bothers me is why haven’t we put Steph in the same situation? Nelson did it when he played his best during his rookie year. Get rid of Ellis, Lee, and Biedrins and give Steph some of the Royal Jelly.

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by dont_stop_believin' on Feb 6, 2012 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

Why no love for Lin?

I hope he makes the all star game next year and has a great career. That has no effect on the Warriors at all! Why not cheer for a local kid, a feel good story about a humble young man beating the odds and doing great? Lin is easy to root for in my book.

by Togna Balogna on Feb 6, 2012 8:37 PM PST reply actions  

I think there is plenty of love for him

Clearly, we’re upset he didn’t do shit for us and is now having some good games. I think everyone here is happy for him, but understands it’s unlikely he keeps this up, based on how awful he was last year. He’s a great guy though so I hope he keeps playing well. Just wish it was for us.

WHAT!??!?!?!?!?!?!

by true torture on Feb 6, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

how awful he was last year.

Yeah, asking Lin to stand at 3pt line and wait, play at his weakness, of course he played awful last year.

Just like how Smart keep asking Beans to do the post-up. Luckily Smart has Cousins now, who can do all the post-ups he wants.

by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Feb 6, 2012 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh, I generally prefer my feel good stories to be about overcoming long odds and succeeding when everyone thought they’d fail. A kid raised in the Silicon Valley suburbs and going to Harvard doesn’t exactly cut it for me. Yeah, that first idea might describe Lin’s basketball career, but the kid had a lot of doors to success open to him with that degree even if basketball didn’t work out. Not exactly the toughest environment to succeed in…

by Missing Barry on Feb 6, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

not every feel good story is a cliche

i see it as a young Asian American who has a great head on his shoulders, work his butt off and succeed. I see a guy who had to prove himself EVERY time he likely stepped on the court and did just that (everyone though he would fail at each step of the way). I see a guy who outplayed John Wall in a summer league game and earned his way on to a team as a result. I see a guy who in the bright lights of NY is stepping up big and playing his best when it matters most.
Tough environments are defined by more than class.

by Togna Balogna on Feb 6, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, like I said, it fits in the basketball sense. Just doesn’t fit as much when you take a larger overview. I’m not negative on the kid at all or anything, he’s obviously taking advantage of his opportunities and working hard and such. I just personally don’t see it as that great a storyline.

by Missing Barry on Feb 6, 2012 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I just personally don’t see it as that great a storyline.

I don’t believe you said that. Like literally, I just don’t believe it.

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(JaVale) Mcgee is better than anybody in this draft.

by Evanz on Feb 7, 2012 4:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha, well, like I said, I’m looking at the bigger picture. If basketball didn’t work out for him, something else would have. With a Harvard degree, he wasn’t exactly lacking in opportunities.

by Missing Barry on Feb 7, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

How about a top 5 prospect out of Cali (what I heard) getting no scholarship offers to play college basketball, possibly/probably because of his race? When he goes to practice, the first thing his coach says to him is that the volleyball gym is somewhere else? When he went to a Knicks game, security thought he was a trainer?

Or how about that if he does good he may possibly break down pre-existing stereotypes and stigmas about Asian-American players?

Seems like a good feel good story to me.

by belilaugh on Feb 6, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Not gonna lie – some of that stuff sounds pretty unbelieveable to me (like literally unbelieveable – I just don’t see it being true).

by Missing Barry on Feb 7, 2012 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/22/SP671EHVTD.DTL (for the volleyball thing).

The no scholarship offers is a fact, type in “Jeremy Lin no scholarship” into google and you will see multiple articles, one from the New York Times, citing that.

http://twitter.com/JLin7 On January 4th he mentions the trainer part.

Unless you mean the second paragraph, but that’s why I put the word “possibly” because I have no idea what kind of impact that could make.

by belilaugh on Feb 7, 2012 1:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Or I guess that’s not really a paragraph.

But yeah, it does seem unbelievable, but it’s true, which only adds to the legend (though I highly doubt he will keep it up, but he’s definitely already made more of an impact than a non-insignificant amount of NBA players will in their careers).

by belilaugh on Feb 7, 2012 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

The no D1 scholarships thing doesn’t surprise me at all. 6’1 guard scoring 15 points a game in high school? Very easy to not get noticed, especially if you’re not oozing athleticism or didn’t make a name for yourself on the AAU circuit. I’ve seen plenty of other kids that fit the same profile. Just think about the sheer number of HS players that describes – every single league has a few of them. Heck, I’ve seen a 6’10 kid fall through the cracks like that who ended up being a very successful d1 college player – and he’s 6’10! The part that doesn’t seem to fit is the notion that Lin was a top 5 prospect out of CA. That kind of implies he did get noticed, which was pretty clearly not the case (not listed as a prospect by Rivals or Scout, for instance).

Also didn’t believe the volleyball gym thing, but now that I see what you’re referring to, yeah, I can see how that’s possible. I assumed you were referring to a HS or college coach, who definitely would have known who Lin was before he even stepped foot on campus…making it quite the odd story. Trying to play Pro Am at Kezar? Yeah, I could see that. If I was a solid college player and walked out there, I’d probably get a similar response (6’0 white kid)…

by Missing Barry on Feb 7, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

He didn’t go unnoticed or fall through the cracks. He led Palo Alto to a 32-1 record and beat one of the best basketball programs in the nation, Mater Dei, in the state finals. His stats weren’t jaw dropping, but 15.1 ppg, 7.1 apg, 4.8 spg, and 6.2 rpg is pretty impressive in high school where the games are only 32 minutes. He was also named all-state, Div 2 NoCal player of the year, NoCal scholar athlete of the year, Player of year by the SF Chronicle and SJ Mercury News. He was a pretty well known commodity by the time he graduated and a proven winner.

I can understand why he didn’t get an offer from a college powerhouse, but it is baffling that no one offered him a D-1 scholarship. How does Stanford not offer this guy a scholarship? Or St Mary’s, Santa Clara, or USF?

by Pippen on Feb 7, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

He led Palo Alto to a 32-1 record and beat one of the best basketball programs in the nation, Mater Dei, in the state finals. His stats weren’t jaw dropping, but 15.1 ppg, 7.1 apg, 4.8 spg, and 6.2 rpg is pretty impressive in high school where the games are only 32 minutes. He was also named all-state, Div 2 NoCal player of the year, NoCal scholar athlete of the year, Player of year by the SF Chronicle and SJ Mercury News. He was a pretty well known commodity by the time he graduated and a proven winner.

He was obviously a very good high school player, but this list of accomplishments alone isn’t something that screams “D1 player”, nor is being well known locally. In my own HS experience, I could rattle off impressive sounding accomplishments for a few kids like that, too, that didn’t get D1 offers. There are a lot of good HS’ers out there. Most of them don’t play D1. In hindsight, Lin obviously should have been playing in the Pac-10, but…well, hindsight is 20/20.

by Missing Barry on Feb 7, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The people that you know who were good HS'ers that didn't get D1 scholarships

Did they develop into a solid NBA back-up PG or better? That’s what seems to be happening with JLin this season – That’s why it’s a good storyline.
Plus he grew up a Dubs fan like most of us.

by RumTMC on Feb 7, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course not – they were the typical case of a good HS’er with a similar profile to Lin. Simply put, not that caliber. That’s one of the points I’m getting at – there are so many HS’ers with a similar profile as Lin had, and most of them don’t become successful D1 players, much less real NBA players. That he didn’t have D1 scholarships isn’t surprising at all. Most guys like that shouldn’t get D1 scholarships. We know now that he should have been playing the highest level college basketball…but, well, he got missed. It happens. Much easier to spot the diamond in the rough in hindsight then pick the 1 out of 10 (or 100, or 1000, whatever the probability is) in real time.

by Missing Barry on Feb 7, 2012 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Missing Barry = IRRATIONAL Lin Hater

Missing Barry is an irrational Lin hater. Check this article out describing people like Missing Barry, in regards to subtle bigotry

colorlines.com/archives/2012/02/jeremy_lin.html

The fact is it’s unbelievable that Lin faced such discrimination in the 2nd millennium, but it’s TRUE. Jeremy Lin is the only California state HS player of the year ever who was not offered a single D-I athletic scholarship. To pretend that race didn’t play into this is completely insane and willfully ignorant.

by BayMind on Feb 8, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm? Maybe you shouldn’t jump the gun so much? Who says I hate Lin? And yes, race obviously plays a role – it’s never a non-factor, but there could be other legit reasons besides/in addition to race – have you considered that possibility?

by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You can't help but cheer for Lin

I hate the Knicks but am dying for a game to be nationally televised so i can see Lin play. He’s a bay area guys, so you gotta hope he becomes a good player in the league, which i think he will be. He has good skills, and definitely has the brains to make it in the NBA.

by tig8 on Feb 6, 2012 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

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