Well the thing about Phili is, they have no post-defender. I watched the game, and I watch a bit of both teams (I have Bynum and Lou Williams on my fantasy team, and this year I’m in good position to win first).

They go small, they made a point to go small v. Lakers because they knew they couldn’t match up size for size. Phili isn’t the type of team I’m talking about. I’m talking about 60% of the league who has serviceable NBA center who can atleast keep Bynum’s post game honest. You know, not particularly impressive defenders like Hibbert or Jefferson or Kwame, but physical enough to body up on him, and force him to do something other than straight overpower/oversize.

I don’t think Phili went ‘big’. Vucevic plays a lot of minutes at 4. Infact almost exclusively. He just happens to be at 4 with Brand at 5. For him to play 5, which was his most used position last nighT (I believe Hawes and Vucevic were only together for 6-7 minutes), is going small.

And as far as his post game, it’s not so much that it’s immature, unless you’re using the term to refer to the inability to handle a double team, which you very well could be doing.

Yeah it’s sort of what I meant. I’ll use Hakeem as opposite example. Hakeem has most refined post game I’ve watched consistently. He had counters to everything you threw at him. At this point, Bynum doesn’t. And while he can overpower most people, when he can’t he’s ineffective in the post. As opposed to if he’s clearing the offensive glass or being set up (which almost never happens in LAL) he’s unstoppable.

Even Howard, who has more moves (and superior quickness/ possibly strength but definitely superior tools when you combine them all), gets a lot of his buckets the easy way to get going. Bynum really doesn’t minus rebounding kobe misses :)

Yeah, you know when I think about it, that CP3 trade would have been great for them on the court. Gives up size, but Bynum is still the 2nd best center, and thinking about it, if Murphy started, you stretch the floor, and give room for kobe to post and cutters (barnes) to cut, and obviously CP3 is best in league at putting the whole team together.

And I agree, they have very few ways to improve. Barring a major change of some kind (not necessarily personnel), they aren’t really even contenders.

The lakers are possibly the only team in NBA who could actually trade a center like Bynum, for prospects with little long term worry because they are front runners to convince Dwight to come to town. However they won’t.

I’m curious what Pau could really get in the open market? I’d love him hear, though you wonder if it’s the wisest move to go for a 31 year old. And I doubt DLee, Dorell and Nate are the randsom they are looking for.

I imagine, LAL is inquiring hard on Deron. Nets obviously want to keep him, but they have to be somewhat scared he’ll walk. Camby, Felton, Batum for Pau?

1) Shaq was SIGNIFICANTLY bigger and stronger than Bynum. Bynum’s stronger than most centers, but he’s not stronger by a wide margin on many. Vs. Kwame Brown is a good example

2) Passing. Shaq could pass out of doubles or the post in general. Bynum cannot

3) And then 3rd, which is less noticeable is attitude. Shaq had a scorers mentality, commanded the ball, could establish post position on anyone (something Bynum isn’t as great at). Bynum can float out of a game by his own doing more so. you don’t see him get on Kobe’s case for the ball like Shaq did.

Bynum’s an all-star, 2nd best center in NBA, but he does have short comings, which get magnified by fact they are a poor passing team.

Obviously, still very effective, but with a better passer they’d both see big volume inceases, probably efficiency ones too… I mean in most cases, aside from offensive glass, they have to work a lot harder than most any other post player (Dwight included) to get their looks