Should Andris Biedrins be sent to the D-League?
by lilboots on Feb 7, 2012 4:07 PM PST
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PrintThe Warriors may have to force their hand with the Andris Biedrins situation, one way or the other. They may try to deal him, or they may keep him for the remainder of his contract.
If they decide to keep him, their best option may be to send him to play for their D-League affiliate. This would be a huge insult to many players who have started consecutive years in this league, and especially a slap in the face to a starter who should arguably be in his prime.
It could go 1 of 2 ways:
1) Ideal: Biedrins would probably be the best center in the entire D-League. This means he would dominate. This means he would gain confidence through his dominance. After 4 weeks of destroying semi-pros, he gets recalled and his confidence carries over to NBA games on a consistent basis. He finds the fire again. Remember those summers playing in Latvia? Remember how confidently he spoke of a "new Andris Biedrins" all those years ago? Maybe this situation mirrors those past experiences, and positively effects his consistency.
2) Disaster: Andris completely loses confidence and his feelings are hurt. He plays even worse, in a worse league. He makes the gag reel on ESPN. He loses all value, and we can no longer trade him.
I realize this is a highly unlikely situation, given the fact that he's the only real center on the team, and Mark Jackson probably would protest the move of even happening in the first place.
But what do you guys think?
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I think you’re not allowed to send vets with that much experience to the D-league. Not sure though. If it were possible, it would probably be a bad idea. I think the plan is to get as many miles out of his 9 million/yr as we can while shopping for his replacement. It doesn’t look like the team is willing to get rid if him until an upgrade is in place. Personally, I’d be willing to take a step backwards if it meant we had a chance to draft one of the top big men in the next two drafts.
by Uwe Blog on Feb 7, 2012 4:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions
except
with the new collective bargaining agreement, veteran players can be assigned to the D-League with their consent for rehab assignments.
hahaha, so he just needs to agree that he needs to rehab his SOUL
in that case, sure, send him down
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 8, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No way
Andirs already has staggerig confidence issues. His problems don’t seem to be related to his skill set – they’re directly related to the blood running through his veins and the proportion of bravado therein.
Besides, guys in the D League actually WANT to play and are busting their asses every minute to show they belong in the NBA. If Biedrins can find his hustle in the D League, he should damn sure be able to find it at Oracle, especially after what is now a two-year disappearance.
Whatever was there seems to be mostly gone, and the rest is waning quickly. If he can’t find his groove, they should get him off the roster before he corrupts the whole locker room.
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Hypothetically, if we could/did send him to the DLeague, yes, he would dominate it. Big man talent in the DLeague is…few and far between. Even without trying, Andris is just so much better than those guys. He’d likely check out, AND dominate the DLeague.
For some reason I just cannot see him dominating.. I know he should be dominant down there but i think he totally flails there too
by PIRATEWARRIOR on Feb 8, 2012 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
I know it’s hard to imagine Biedrins dominating a middle school CYO game at the moment…but yeah, DLeague bigs are pretty not good….
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
the d-league...
where the patrick o’bryants go to dominate. i think biedrins would do just fine.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Feb 8, 2012 1:18 AM PST up reply actions
If it was possible, of course
but unfortunately, we’re stuck with him.
Not using the amnesty on Biedrins may go down as Lacob’s biggest mistake thus far.
Why amnesty him?
He didn’t use it just in case Chandler or Jordan didn’t sign here because then we would have no center. I think we can still get still value out of him. Right now the Jordan Hill + Hasheem Thabeet deal for Andris looks amazing, too bad we didn’t pull the trigger
by GSWarrior1818 on Feb 10, 2012 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
we can still get still value out of him
Maybe. If they could just get him to mop the floors and scrub the toilets at Oracle.
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by KillaContract on Feb 16, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Most people let SUPER STARS define their impressions of a team and therefor, while viewing the big picture, are somewhat blind to the effect of just how hurtful a player like Biedrins can be to a team. All should take time to view it from the opposite perspective and judge the quality of teams by how many minutes they must give to truely bad players. And players like Biedrins are far worse than most, who just lack talent, with his supernatural ability to passively destroy team chemistry. I feel the sports world lacks an appropriate word for such players. SUCCU-BUST seams to fit best for Biedrins. (A feminine demon from hell who rapes away the dreams of men).
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Nah, superstars mean more to their teams success than bad players mean to the team losing. You can hide bad players to minimize their negative effects.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
You can hide bad players to minimize their negative effects.
This seams to fly in the face of statistics. Are you claiming that a career negative adjusted +/- player will suddenly be a positive on a team with superstars? I disagree and I disagree that you can hide these players. Good teams have a way of attacking opposing teams weaknesses. Once you get deep in the playoff, it is likely both teams have SUPER STARS and these can often negate each other. As a Warrior fan you must just be suffering from SUPER STAR envy.
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by KillaContract on Feb 8, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Are you claiming that a career negative adjusted +/- player will suddenly be a positive on a team with superstars?
Nah. I’m just claiming that you can play to someone’s strengths to make them less of a negative. It’s not impossible that you make them a positive, but I wouldn’t be able to say for sure that would happen. Basically, here’s the thing – every team has role players. Guys like Derek Fisher, Bruce Bowen, Peja, Tyson Chandler, etc. Guys that simply aren’t that good overall. So you play those guys to their strengths – you have Bruce Bowen stand in the corner on offense and make that 3 and do nothing else, because he’s a weak ballhandler who can’t create shots for himself or for teammates, but he can hit that corner 3. Then on defense, well, he plays D, and that’s where you get the positive value. Their role players – put them in roles that maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses. You can’t hide them completely, but yes, Bruce Bowen is going to have a lot more positive effect on your team playing that role than playing a traditional wing and trying to get more involved in the offense.
And absolutely I have superstar envy.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
You can’t hide them completely
You can hide them completely if they never come off the bench because the rest of your bench is better. Playing no bench is not a good option. This is my argument for upgrading the bench. Especially when making a change to the starters is so hard for our organization.
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by KillaContract on Feb 8, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
The bench ultimately isn’t that important, though. Upgrade them and you might see…3-5 more wins or something? How about we worry about our bunch once we have a core that can actually compete…
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
Peja, Tyson Chandler, etc. Guys that simply aren’t that good overall.
In their primes, they were pretty good.
Gambino is a mastermind...
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 8, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
They make for solid enough role players, and good contributors when you don’t ask them to do too much.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
he needs a change of scenery...
but his value is soo freaking low it’s not even worth trading him unless you find a team willing to give you an expiring…still hard to give up on him completely…he was so good early
by JimBarnett2KevinGarnett on Feb 8, 2012 2:40 PM PST reply actions
waive him
if you could send him down, i’d do it it. but you cant. we need an nba center and don’t have one. putting him out there just is not working. at this point, i think they have no choice but to cut him. its not working.
by felix botticelli on Feb 9, 2012 8:04 AM PST reply actions
Nah, cutting him guarantees we won’t get rid of his salary. If we had a legit starting C, it wouldn’t be terrible to have him as a backup. Using a roster spot on Biedrins really isn’t that big a deal. Losing someone like Chris Wright is pretty…irrelevant.
by Missing Barry on Feb 9, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
I haven’t actually been watching at any of the points he’s come into the game. Don’t even know what he looks like, to be honest.
by Missing Barry on Feb 10, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
High character guy, who works very hard to improve his game.
I have an affinity for gym rats. Especially rats with freak athleticism, length, and youth.
Look up Chris Wright on youtube and watch his mini-documentary. I think he’s destined for good things in the league.
We should of taken care of his salary when we had the chance back in the off-season.
who knows why we didn’t…
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by Bryan Steedman on Feb 16, 2012 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
I personally have no issue with it
but I think he would. I am not sure what my take on him is regarding his problem. A lot of people suffer from low confidence (at times Klay comes to mind) but are able to overcome it and not let it define them.
Andris is different, though. I don’t think it is just about confidence. There is something missing in him. Like, life. He has no zest for life, at least that he presents to the outside world.
At times, I wonder if he is being heavily medicated. He moves and acts like someone on a high dosage of benzos. He is slow, lethargic, energy less, clumsy at times, hesitant, seems like his senses are dulled. He presents as if he is in a fog, like voices sound far away and he is in his own little world.
Perhaps he suffers from some sort of depressive disorder and is being medicated. That is my hypothesis right now. I just don’t think that what I see from him can only be attributed to low confidence.
Again, he may just be over basketball. Didn’t Nowitski recently say he was tired of basketball? There must become a time when, like the rest of us who work, you just don’t want to do it anymore. He is in a position where he can’t really call in sick or take time off and it impacts the team negatively, obviously.
Hey- what if a player just doesn’t want to play anymore during a season. They want to retire or quit. Can they break their contract and do this?
At times, I wonder if he is being heavily medicated. He moves and acts like someone on a high dosage of benzos. He is slow, lethargic, energy less, clumsy at times, hesitant, seems like his senses are dulled. He presents as if he is in a fog, like voices sound far away and he is in his own little world.
This seems to be true, sadly. I don’t know what is wrong with Biedrins, but he seems to have changed. I just remember him being so spry, and joking. He was always screwing around with Jim Barnett and “Fitz” before the games during lay up drills. No more of that. He seems dull and medicated, as you say. Pity.
Biedrins….improving? Let’s get serious. AB wass 18 when he as drafted and signed to get paid to play basketball. He is turning 26 in two months. If you dont make huge improvements after 4 years then it ain’t gonna happen. after 7 years in the league Ab has no post moves, no jump shot, can’t shoot a free throw, and no clue what to do with the ball. Now is it coaching or really just AB? Most players would be working on their game trying to improve. I don’t know what AB has been doing for the last 7 years. Why not hire a post player coach to work with Udoh, Tyler, and AB?..cliiford ray?
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Biedrins would do horrible in the D-League, all they need to do is hack a Biedrins
Should Andris Biedrins be sent to the D-League?
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Feb 13, 2012 2:32 PM PST reply actions
2) Disaster: Andris completely loses confidence and his feelings are hurt. He plays even worse, in a worse league. He makes the gag reel on ESPN. He loses all value, and we can no longer trade him.
I honestly cannot come up with any idea on how he could be an even bigger disaster than he currently is.
And to be honest considering his salary I don’t think there’s an any trade value there whatsoever.
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