Grantland Rookie Rankings: Klay at #4
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Top three jump shooter in the league.
I hope he can keep that up.
it's actually top 3 percent, which is still really good
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by lameallenmark on Feb 7, 2012 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Meh, Klay can really shoot the ball, but there are plenty of rookies who excel at one skill. Gotta show he’s more than just a shooter.
I like his passing
I can’t quantify it statistically. All I can say is ‘wow, he’s not a moron’ as opposed to 50% of shooters I watch on perimeter who look confused if they get the ball and their shot isn’t there.
Definitely seems have good basketball IQ.
by Missing Barry on Feb 7, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Great D? I don’t know about that as much….
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions
better than Monta's unlimited reach in fouls for sure.
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Feb 8, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions
Don’t disagree with that, but that’s not the highest bar to clear, no? ;)
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, but if he is better than Monat and Curry, then he is okay in my book
Klay has long reach and read the play well. Klay is not a good one on one defense guy, but he knows how to switch and do the team defense. When you watch his game, you can see many times the guy drive pass him but ends up missing the shot because the shooter ends up in Udoh’s defense path. When Klay able to stay in front of the guy, his long arms and not go for pump fake changes the shot. This is the main reason Evans missed many shots on the 4th Q.
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Feb 8, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Monta's D is much improved
He will always be hurt by his physical limitations, but he doesn’t reach nearly as much, and gets a lot of steals on help this year, as opposed to reach.
I agree
But Monta as a SG is not working. If we want to keep Monta, we need to make him like Rose, a PG who does drive and kick a lot, and finish the play as needed. And most importantly, get the foul.
Else we have to trade Monta to make our starters work better.
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Feb 8, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
I think Monta at SG is fine, in the right setting. Hate the idea of Monta at PG. Basically, Monta needs to not be the primary ballhandler.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
agreed 100%, that's no way to run a good basketball team
Monta needs to not be the primary ballhandler.
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 8, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
I see basically no difference from last year.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 8, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
Take your pick, they both look like role players right now. Haven’t seen Turner play this year. If his defense ends up being a positive, I’d go with Turner. Not sure how likely that is. Anyways, why’d you pick Turner? It doesn’t really reflect well on Klay that we’re comparing him to a guy who had a very disappointing rookie year, does it?
by Missing Barry on Feb 7, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
Because 1 was picked second in what was deemed as a fairly good draft and the other was picked 11th in what many called the worst draft since the 2000 draft.
You know Thabeet went #2 overall one time?
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by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 7, 2012 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
This is what angers me about you J-Ridah.
You ask for examples to prove your points wrong and when people do, you make excuses to make say those examples are irrelevant. Sometimes you just have to accept you lost the logic/argumentation battle.
Gambino is a mastermind...
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
What example did I ask for in this thread? I asked a simple question of who had the brighter future. I never mentioned Thabeet.
You've in the past said
Klay’s going to be better than the #2 pick in a draft before him. Why don’t you bring up Thabeet, an obvious bust?
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by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 8, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Because Thabeet and Klay play a entirely different position. Thabeet was drafted as a project while ET came in the league polished as did Klay. Is it that hard to figure out?
Well, I think both illustrate why comparisons are useless.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
J-Ridah...
…the master of moving the goalposts.
by warriorsablaze on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
The last draft class wasn't too bad, not nearly as bad as 2000.
Kyrie Irving is going to be a fantastic player, he is already turning Cleveland around a bit. Some of the international players either have not played at all or have not played big minutes yet. Then there are bunch of others that look good and seem like they will hit their stride later in the year.
by brutusbrutus on Feb 7, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Ohh I totally agree. In my opinion it was as good as the projected 2012 class is gonna be. Kyrie Irving is a second year allstar and future star. He’s already better than John Wall. I dont go by what other ppl say. The “cool” thing to say is that the 2012 draft is the deepest of the decade. Thats total BS. Its not 1 player in the draft that you can say will make a easy transition to the NBA. Not 1.
You don’t think…say…Harrison Barnes will be able to make an easy transition to the NBA? Or Thomas Robinson? Jared Sullinger? Wouldn’t be surprised if Henson came in ready to play D, though his offense will probably be pretty weak. Terrence Jones, Kendall Marshall, Mason Plumlee. You’re telling me none of those guys are ready to come in and play in the NBA?
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
Thats exactly what im telling you. Barnes is gonna have the same problems Evan Turner had as a rookie. He’s been inconsistant this season. He should be killing every night. I like his game to come around maybe by his second season. In regards to Sullinger, I said he’ll be a Paul Millsap and I stand by that. Not saying he’ll do it as a rook tho/ The rest of the guys you named wont contribute as rooks and will come off the bench.
They can come off the bench AND contribute. Guess we’ll just have to disagree and see what happens next season. Every class puts out guys that contribute early, which doesn’t mean they’re impact players right away.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
Barnes is an excellent spot up shooter
Which Turner is not. I think Barnes upside is a lot lower than people thought when he was out of high school though. Offensive game like Luol Deng with a better shot, probably worse D because Deng’s physically more gifted (length, strength, height).
Not like that’s a bad player though.
Barnes is among best spot up shooters in NCAA though. No reason to believe, that won’t translate
Turner was a damn good spot up shooter in college. And was more dominant in my opinion as a sophmore. Spot up shooting almost always translates to the next level. When I watch Barnes tho I mostly see him create his own shots as opposed to coming off screens like Klay did. Same as ET created his buckets in college. At the next level you have supreme defenders at the SF and 2 guard spot that slow it down unless your elite.
Turner was a damn good spot up shooter in college.
That was his weakness in college.
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by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 8, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
It wasn't.
He was a much better spot up shooter than off-the-dribble. He showed plenty of range for the college game, but was never one to take a shot from a few steps beyond the 3-point line.
He didn’t really have a “weakness” in college. Real problem was that he wasn’t great at any particular thing either. It’s why I didn’t think his skills would transfer that well to the NBA. The two things he did best (rebounding and passing) are starting to show this year, but I don’t think he’ll ever be more than a role player.
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Shooting was definitely a weakness of Turner’s. Check out his nbadraft.net profile or DE profile – both cite shooting as weaknesses. Furthermore, he barely even took any 3’s, and his % was not impressive.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
.364 isn’t bad, and he shot almost 2 per game
I never said he was a good shooter. But I wouldn’t have called it a weakness either. Especially his ability to catch-and-shoot on a spot up. He was much better at that than creating his own shot, and was especially good at catching inside the 3-point line and knocking down the jumper.
And as I said, he doesn’t have NBA range. Of course that’s going to turn into a problem when you get there. It’s what I’d point to as well if I were an NBA scout.
I watched him play around 100 games at OSU, and within the college game, he didn’t really have any weaknesses. Something I’d point to, is that as a role playing freshman in 07-08, he actually hit more 3s than in either of his sophomore and junior years. His percentage was still not particularly good, but he did shoot them more often because, as a role player, that’s the shot you get more often.
As far as transition tot he NBA, I’d say most of what he did at OSU wasn’t exactly going to be a sure thing. But he’s a perfectly fine catch-and-shoot guy. Just not sure if he’ll ever have NBA 3-point range.
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He was more dominant because OSU has way less talent than the Heels' do.
Turner had to do everything cause no one else on his team could except for shooting with Deibler.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
That's not true.
Buckeyes were plenty talented overall, it’s just that all the talent was packed onto the wing. In his final year at OSU, our 4 best players were wing players (Diebler, Lighty, Buford, Evan).
So, being the best ball-handler in the group, he became the point-forward.
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J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.
(JaVale) Mcgee is better than anybody in this draft.
Speaking of JaVale McGee – let’s check out his focus on basketball IQ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieymkwx3wRU
There’s a reason I maintain he’s not that good yet. Dude’s game just isn’t there mentally.
(As a side note, look at that crowd. There are wayyyy too many places out there that just get garbage crowds that aren’t fun to attend a game at all. We’re really, really lucky to root for a team that gets the crowds the Dubs get, especially given our lack of success….)
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
Jeez!!
that play is soooo bad.
just extremely poor awareness, followed by bad fundamentals (how the hell do you expect to get an oop on the opposite side of the rim?
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 8, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
Javale checked outta DC 15 games ago. Get him here with MJ as his mentor and father figure and watch a totally new JMac emerge. If we had a pick id trade it for him along with Rush.
I dunno, he’s been playing dumb basketball for his whole career now. Why assume he can just change that overnight, rather than the more simple – that he just isn’t a very smart player right now?
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
I agree with you to an extent
He would be way more developed in adifferent organization.
I don’t think he has upside you do, but he certainly can be way more productive than he has been with a different situation/culture/coaching.
Think our staff would salivate at the chance to use him. He’d do all the things they want biedrins to do at a higher level. Rebound. Cut and score. Defend the rim.
Right now he’s the best shot blocker in the game and the most athletic 5 the game has seen in years. Get him a big man’s coach with his frame and athleticism and he’s a allstar in the West next season.
Right now he’s the best shot blocker in the game and the most athletic 5 the game has seen in years.
Right, he’s an excellent athlete…but there’s a lot more to basketball than that. Huge potential, but missing a lot of important pieces right now.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
I know, but he’s averaging a double double in a dump of a franchise. Id fight Kimbo slice for 2 minutes for the Warriors to be able to have a C athletic as he is averaging a double double and leading the league in Blocks.
I know, but he’s averaging a double double in a dump of a franchise.
Hey, so did David Lee in NYK. What’s he up to these days?
J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.
(JaVale) Mcgee is better than anybody in this draft.
Earning too much money but still being a good player
No one said they wanted McGee for 6/80
J wants him for 4/60
Gambino is a mastermind...
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
JV is gonna beast when he gets outta DC. Dude is the most Athletic 7 footer since………..? He blocks everything. Give him a defensive minded coach like Malone and a mentor like Jackson and he unleashes. Nobody will be in a rush to blow past Steph and Monta if they had to meet him in the paint. Imagine the stretches when him and Udoh are in at the same time. Block city.
If the Ws were willing to give DJ over $10 mil/yr, then I wouldn’t have much issue with paying McGee that much. He is an athletic freak, but you have to admit he isn’t a very heady player. His FT shooting has decreased every season as well, which is a little peculiar. I’d much rather have Anthony Davis if given the choice.
He’s among the elite athletes at the position, that’s for sure. Hard to split the difference between guys of a similar tier, especially when they have different body types.
Give him a defensive minded coach like Malone and a mentor like Jackson and he unleashes.
Well, maybe. He has a lot to learn on both sides of the court, and who knows how big an impact coaching will have. You can say the same about lots of players with big time potential – for example, guys like Wright and Randolph.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
(And he obviously doesn’t block everything – the Wizards allowed eFG% is pretty bad, and they’re in the bottom third in opponent FG% near the rim…)
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude is the most Athletic 7 footer since………..?
Sean Williams?
by Spider Jerusalem on Feb 8, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Biedrins got 6/$54M, right? And when Biedrins got his money, he was younger and better than McGee, though with a lower ceiling.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Chandler is a pretty good example of what we’d hope JaVale would turn into. He has that kind of potential, but needs desperately to learn to play the game. If he does, that’s the kind of player I expect him to be.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
Think Javale's more athletic
But no where near as thick.
Well, “thick” comes at the expense of movement for a given athlete. And of course Chandler, at age 29, with some injuries and almost 20,000 minutes of NBA time, isn’t the athlete he was at a younger age.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Chandler was always smart, though.
Javale is, uh, not smart.
At all.
by Spider Jerusalem on Feb 8, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
so did dampier in his last year with the warriors
"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah
Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo
Why would you assume the Warriors could change his mentality.
I applaud you for your optimism, but Golden State is where big talent goes to zero upon arrival.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
if mcgee is as good as you say he is
why would washington trade him for a pick + rush?
"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah
Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo
To start over with Drummond. They dont see what I see. Or maybe they do and wont do the trade. If we had a pick we’d be able to find out. This is why I say talk to Utah and unprotect the pick and allow us to trade the 2014 1st round pick. Thats the only way I see us acquiring a good C anytime soon. The 2012 draft wont address our need for a 5 even if we had a top 6 pick.
This is why I say talk to Utah and unprotect the pick and allow us to trade the 2014 1st round pick.
Maybe if we say pretty please with sugar on top. Utah would have to be stupid to agree to that. There is a remote chance we might not suck in 2014, why would they take the risk?
Never mind that post, I see what you are saying.
If they did that, you know this would be the year we win the lottery and the #1 pick.
I honestly dont care if we won the lottery. There’s no game changer in this draft. We could take the best player in the draft and it still wont address our weakness. No player in the draft would start over any of our guys as a rook. That means its no difference makers in this draft in my opinion. Sig it, Quote it but its just my observation. The Warriors have had a lottery pick for just about every year I’ve had hair on my balls and were still where we are. Until that lottery pick produces a Allstar wing or a Allstar Center its not addressing our issues.
For a guy that like McGee’s shot blocking capabilities so much, I don’t understand whey you are impressed with Anthony Davis. The guy prides himself on his defense and shot blocking. I’m not one of the guys advocating a tank, but I would be ecstatic to get him if he fell into our laps.
Because I wasn’t crazy about Biyombo and he blocked everything. Because I wasn’t crazy about Udoh when he was blocking everything in college. I thought his defense could help, but what I want if we had to take a 4 is a 4 thats capable of playing 5 on defense. Us drafting another 4 does not do anything for me. It just dont. Especially 1 that weighs less than Jenkins. I know he could add weight but his frame will never be big enough.
Davis is a more technical and polished player than Udoh and Biyombo. Maybe he’ll convince you when you see him in the NCAA Tournament.
He’s 18 and grew 7 inches his junior/senior seasons. It’s not surprising his weight hasn’t caught up to his height yet.
Coincidentally enough, the same could be said about McGee.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
No player in the draft would start over any of our guys as a rook. That means its no difference makers in this draft in my opinion.
I don’t see logically how this first conclusion leads to the second conclusion. We’re thinking long-term, not just for next season.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Okay were thinking long term. Like I said before, this team has had lottery picks for damn near every year I’ve been a fan of the game and its done nothing in terms of winning. Our best big came via trade and he was the last pick in the 1st round. The 1 before that was C-Webb who was very good but was a top 2 pick.Monta was a 2nd round pick. I get excited about the draft as the next fan, when I see a difference maker. In this draft there is none.
C-Webb who was very good but was a top 2 pick
Yeah, more top 3 picks and maybe we can find another guy like that…
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
We’d really have to stink to get that high. Even when we had D-Leaguers and multiple injuries we ended up 6th.
Yep, and that’s a big problem for us – never good enough to go anywhere, never bad enough to rebuild.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Javale never checked in lol
He’s done things that make no sense since he got to the NBA. Yes, he’s talented. Yes, he’s athletic. Yes, he’s still got tons of upside. But mentality, he’s never had it. Not saying he can’t or won’t, but it needs to be a significant change if he’s to become a real contributor to a winning team.
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I heard the same thing about Bynum his 1st few years in the league. Granted, at this age Mcgee should have a higher bbiq but right now he could still help this team become a playoff team. That double double and defense is what we need at the 5 spot. Bring Beans off the bench and were set. Thats much better than having Anthony Davis who’s gonna get bullied at the 4 spot.
Oh, I know he'd help us
but we’re playing Biedrins as our starting C right now. We’re so bad at the position that we miss Kwame Brown. At this point, Chris Mihm might help us lol
I’m really not trying to take shots at him, but he’s got a lot of work to do. A double-double is great and all, but there’s much more to the game than the stats a player accumulates
and Bynum sort of was a space cadet for a while. he still is a little bit. but he’s always been more focused than Javale. he’s also got more of a mean streak, and seemingly more of a commitment to winning.
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Agreed.
It wouldn’t be fun to go to a game like that.
Gambino is a mastermind...
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 8, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
actually
everyone called 2010 a weak draft. Wall, Cousins were top thats it, iirc
Anyway I agree with MB. Both look like good rotation players. Different skill-sets. Turner is rebounding and passing very well. But it’s hard to not be disappointed with that out of a #2
Who went in the 3-8 range that you would take over Turner though?
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by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
Yep. Cuz and Monroe. Here’s another question, who has the brighter future between Klay and Wes Johnson?
Why should we care about Wes Johnson? Seriously, dude is a complete bust, and has nothing to do with Klay Thompson whatsoever.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, and not like we even had the chance to draft him.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
actually everyone called 2010 a weak draft.
this is what i remember. everyone was complaining that our lack of tanking knocked us to the 6th pick in a 5 player draft.
"Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu." - J--Ridah
Me: So who (from the 2011 draft class) compares with (Anthony) Davis?
J-Ridah: Biyombo
If that guy was the 2nd pick in a draft
it’s really not that bad.
Klay was 11th, and it was supposed to be a weak draft.
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…
I don’t see the relevance in any of this. Cherry picking – it doesn’t prove a point. Paul George was the 10th pick last year. What do last years picks even have to do with how Klay compares to his rookie class?
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
That tanking doesn’t mean you’ll end up with a better player than the teams that tried to win every game.
We will tank anyway. No matter how hard Warriors plays, they will tank, and they will keep loosing
by ILoveWarriorsGirls on Feb 8, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
Tanking implies we’re actively trying to lose. It’s different from just not being good….
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
also different from loosing
loosing
present participle of loose (Verb)
Verb:
Set free; release: “the hounds have been loosed”.
Untie; unfasten: “the ropes were loosed”.
"I am very worried about the Warriors"
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by Duby Dub Dubs on Feb 8, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
It is fascinating to notice that over that sample, the best pick to have has been ...
… the third pick. And that the fifth has been better than the second or fifth.
Although the variances are pretty huge there, so I only mention that to point out that clearly drafting is an imperfect science. The trend line looks clear but if you actually look at the data points you see lots of peculiar little bumps.
Not in any way suggesting that they’re meaningful. But historically the 10th pick has turned into a better player than the second pick during that sample period. (What is that sample period, BTW?)
Here’s the blog post it’s from:
http://82games.com/barzilai1.htm
It’s 1980-2007, and I think that particular graph is just the first four seasons of a players career. They also look at other metrics, too, that produce different results.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
It is fascinating to notice that over that sample, the best pick to have has been … the third pick.
Well, you have to wonder how much Jordan’s relative value of [infinity]% is throwing off the chart…
There will be no extra point!
by Sleepy Freud on Feb 8, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Is that Win Shares or Win Shares per 48?
Higher picks tend to get more playing time, which generally increases their total WS. If you account for playing time, my guess is the curve is, well, not nearly so curvy.
J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.
(JaVale) Mcgee is better than anybody in this draft.
yeah, it's what I thought
none of those graphs were normalized by minutes AFAICT.
J-RIDAH: Its not 1 player in this draft better than Monta or Lee. Anthony Davis is no different than Al Farouq Aminu. Andre Drummond could be good but he is not impressive at this point at all besides his size. This draft is hella overated.
(JaVale) Mcgee is better than anybody in this draft.
Hey look
picks 11-14 do better than 6-8, and 9-10 do much better.
So you’re not guaranteed anything by tanking, which is exactly what J said.
http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/
So just draft the best you can.
If you actually do a good job of that, you can come away from most drafts as a success, and there’s plenty of examples of picks outside the top 5 going on to become stars.
Even if you lost the most games, you’re only guaranteed the 4th pick. Losing the most games is a difficult thing to do without actually trying to do it, even if you trade away your talent. There’s almost always some other team that manages to do worse, because they’re trying to do the same thing as you.
When you look at it, the draft isn’t any more guaranteed to get you better than singing and trading.
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When you look at it, the draft isn’t any more guaranteed to get you better than singing and trading.
Well, I am still waiting for an in depth study on this…
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know...
but that’s what the conversation was. Turner v Klay. I was just commenting on it. I see the same thing J sees, but I didn’t say it mattered.
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What about Thabeet?
Does that make Klay a better pick because Thabeet was #2?
Gambino is a mastermind...
by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 8, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
It means we're doing better than some teams.
The more picks he compares favorably to, the better we’re doing. So yes, it does make Klay seem like a better pick. The best comparison would clearly be in this year’s draft, but if you’re getting a better player at 11 in a draft than teams did at 2 in others, its still a good sign.
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by Brownie13 on Feb 8, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder how high Gary Neal was last year then on this ranking.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
"He's chicken curry right now. He'll become beef curry a little later on."
-Keith Smart
klay didnt make the rookie game
That’s too bad.
by Xtremelink on Feb 8, 2012 5:26 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Why should he be? 6.7 points per game, 1.4 rebounds per game, 1.2 assists per game (and no need to bring per 36’s into this, it’s not like those are impressive)…I know Klay is OUR guy, but if you saw a guy from another team putting up those stats…would you really think he belonged in the game? 14 rookies are outscoring Klay so far this year, and scoring is just about all Klay does.
by Missing Barry on Feb 8, 2012 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
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