Jeremy Lin: The New Steve Nash, making Asian-American history tonight in Santa Clara, of all places (1/4/10)

Today's most popular page on GSoM (!). I was at this game with PMC, FJ, and Fuzzy. I would have never predicted Jeremy Lin would have the kind of success he's having right now in New York. Man has he improved since then. Major props!

The Warriors should hire my man @poormanscommish as a lead scout!

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The NBA is a huge, elitist fraternity.

Rarely do they admit they’re wrong and hire great outsiders like PMC without some sort of big connection.

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 9, 2012 12:09 AM PST reply actions

The NBA is a huge, elitist fraternity.

+1 for the frat part

I wouldn’t say it’s elite in an intellectual or experience sense. It’s elite in the sense that you either have to be a former popular player (leading to a lot of dumb ex-jocks making dumb financial and personnel moves) or have some sort of family connection to an ownership group (i.e. nepotism) to get in. Sadly, sports management is far from a meritocracy.

Golden State of Mind :: Always keeping it... "Unstoppable Baby!"

by Atma Brother ONE on Feb 9, 2012 12:16 AM PST up reply actions

Yes!

It’s elite in the sense that you either have to be a former popular player (leading to a lot of dumb ex-jocks making dumb financial and personnel moves) or have some sort of family connection to an ownership group (i.e. nepotism) to get in. Sadly, sports management is far from a meritocracy.

Much more so than the NFL or MLB for example where tons of non-ex players who aren’t related to someone get good jobs all the time. Sadly I think the NBA will be held back for a long time in terms of player evaluation simply because NBA players are the least intelligent of their kin, imo, yet they get the most front office jobs in their sport. It’s a continuing cycle of stupidity…a case you’ve clearly made with Chris Mullin ;)

Gambino is a mastermind...

by GovernorStephCurry on Feb 9, 2012 12:22 AM PST up reply actions

And to think , Lin took a PAY CUT to come here instead of going to the lakers..

and this is how we treat him : Smart, gives him noooooo minutes.. Lacob , does nothing to tell Smart that he needs to give Lin a decent chance..

Ultimately, we SUCK for not giving this guy playing time. I think he has Nash like body control

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Feb 9, 2012 12:27 AM PST reply actions

I don't think Lin would have had that much success here

Because both Keith Smart and Mark Jackson didn’t/aren’t running a spread out offense. So the floor is more clogged, and those Lin drives to the hoop that I saw in the highlights wouldn’t have been there, which would require Lin to hit his jumpers. I don’t know if he’s improved his jump shot this season, but they weren’t pretty last season.

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 9, 2012 12:41 AM PST up reply actions

well, I think his jump shot not lookin all that was partly the rookie jitters. Even klay with his purdy stroke took some time to get comfy ..

LIn simply never had that chance to work through it.. And we could easily be spread if we knew we had a guy who can penetrate from the pg spot and then dish to any 3 pt shooter or Lee .. I think Lin is better than Curry which is jumping the gun but, I like Lins durability better and his attitude and his defense and his penetration, and his non one handed flashypants passes . Curry has the better shot.. But they both probably shoot near even in terms of % (my guess)

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Feb 9, 2012 1:01 AM PST up reply actions

Frankly, IQ, it is difficult to have much success here. Once you begin to show signs of that, you are let go!

It has been a coaching and player merry-go-round the last three years. Hard for any rookies whose dads did not play in the NBA to get any quality look-me-over!

by dinohealth on Feb 9, 2012 7:50 AM PST up reply actions

True but.....

Each coach has a system that he wants to run, but, the best coaches design their offenses around the strengths of the players they have (ie. Harbaugh). You have to work with what you’ve got. That’s where I think our system (coaching, talent evaluation) failed.

For example, the pick and roll…this was David Lee’s bread and butter in NY. He killed everybody with it. Couldn’t we at least have tried incorporating it into our offense? And have our guys do what the do best? Putting them in position to succeed?

by TotallyBodaciousDude on Feb 9, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions

i agree here. It seems to me Lee and Lin (haha sounds like twoo asian guys) could have done a fantastic job of the P&R

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Feb 9, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions

he didn't take a pay cut...lol

he was offered the minimum by everyone

http://nbawarriors.wordpress.com/

by Brownie13 on Feb 9, 2012 4:12 AM PST up reply actions

OHHH well, somehow I was under the impression the Lakers offered him more but he chose to come here instead cuz its his fav team...

wow the warriors were his fav team… that factor alone makes you more valuable imo….

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Feb 9, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions

Lin loves to play for the Warriors

maybe someday he will be back when he is on his retiring age… ala Chris Webber.

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

mykelala01 is like the bouncer with the red rope for GSOM. You’re good to come in now.

by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT

by mykelala01 on Feb 9, 2012 4:18 AM PST up reply actions

ya, that would be awesome.. hahahahh ( : as we sit there in total and perpetual rebuild mode...

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Feb 9, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions

I agree, Pirate, he is special. So was Reggie

Lin was the Big Man in his conference. So was Curry in his. So was Thompson (although, not to the degree of the other two relative to their conferences). Curry and Thompson got quality time as rookies. Lin did not. Why? Maybe he should have had a daddy who had played in the NBA…

by dinohealth on Feb 9, 2012 7:59 AM PST up reply actions

BTW, I forgot. Same applies to Reggie. Lin and Reggie, both gone. The other two, here.

by dinohealth on Feb 9, 2012 8:01 AM PST up reply actions

ya lol, having a dadddy in the nba sure does seem to help... or maybe its a half black thing..

If Lin was a black dude or a white dude maybe I bet he would have gotten a chance here.. I hope im wrong in that but…

by PIRATEWARRIOR on Feb 9, 2012 9:44 AM PST up reply actions

@ PoorMansCommish

From now on you will be known as the crowned Swami of the Hoops Blogosphere!

by farid on Feb 9, 2012 12:53 AM PST reply actions

You know, Lin's success has me thinking

And I realized that Stephen Curry could have similar success in New York because of D’antoni’s spread out offense that would give Curry also plenty of room to make plays and passes, and Curry’s good at that. That’s what we saw in Curry’s first season with Don Nelson.

The problem is that Lacob wants to focus on defense first, which is totally understandable because defense wins championships and all that. But that also means less likelihood of going small to spread out the opposing defense, because your own defense and rebounding gets sacrificed. And that means less likelihood of being able to utilize Curry’s play making skills.

So it occurred to me that if Lacob really wants to focus on defense first, then I can see Lacob trading way Curry, Monta, and Lee in several years, basically blowing everything up, and building with a more traditional lineup of players who can play in a half court offense without needing a lot of space to work with.

So what do you think? Plausible? Or am I going crazy?

by IQofaWarrior on Feb 9, 2012 1:14 AM PST reply actions

Im with you man

Lin meet D’antoni’s system is like destiny. If poormancomish predict that Lin is the next Steve Nash. D’antoni is the right coach for him. On MJ system we don’t run a lot of pick and roll. I think we got more ISO and post up. Monta post up that is.

So it occurred to me that if Lacob really wants to focus on defense first, then I can see Lacob trading way Curry, Monta, and Lee in several years, basically blowing everything up,

And you are right I was saying these for a long time, our team is built for Nellie ball. Our starter that is. When we sign DLee and I guess DWright. technically Nellie is still our coach. But our bench play more defense because it was built for MJ system.

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

mykelala01 is like the bouncer with the red rope for GSOM. You’re good to come in now.

by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT

by mykelala01 on Feb 9, 2012 3:52 AM PST up reply actions

That is why, we always wonder why do we have two separate unit. But strange thing is our bench when Nate on the point. They are more run and gun style of play. compare to our starter. because maybe it is like Denver Nuggets team when Monta is on the bench. No ball stopper.

Win Or Lose Warriors For Life.........

mykelala01 is like the bouncer with the red rope for GSOM. You’re good to come in now.

by TheSoundOfHockey on Apr 24, 2011 9:24 PM PDT

by mykelala01 on Feb 9, 2012 3:57 AM PST up reply actions

Plausible that Curry could have the same success in NY. However, not as a PG.

by dinohealth on Feb 9, 2012 8:04 AM PST up reply actions

Article was actually written by Sung-Mo Cho

Just for the record! I can’t really take credit for it. It was an interesting angle of comparison.

Even though I was more naive at the time, I think my Jeremy Lin Movement article was most comprehensive scouting report ever done on him.

If you’ll notice in the last part of that article, I even mention Iman Shumpert. Seriously, I could have drafted a point guard for any NBA team that year. I knew them all, all because of gauging Jeremy Lin’s potential from some sort of basis of comparison. So, thanks ATMA for the props!

From a style of play standpoint, I’ve written that, to me, he resembles Jason Kidd or Goran Dragic.

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by Poor Man's Commish on Feb 9, 2012 7:26 AM PST reply actions

Congratulations! Maybe hindsight is 100%, but you got 100% at a time no one (jusdging from the comments of the time) would have given you a "pass"!

Or, Lin, for that matter.

by dinohealth on Feb 9, 2012 7:44 AM PST up reply actions

Got to Tip my hat to Poor Man's Commish!

Firstly, Atma Brother One, I hope that all is well with you. Long time no connect!

I’ve adopted GS as my second favorite team since you got a mini Knicks squad with Mark Jackson, D-Lee, and Li’l Nate!

Seriously, Poor Man’s Commish that’s some great work on Lin! Skill is Skill! Just glad you wren’t the GS GM!

I never saw Lin until his 7 minute first-half stretch in Boston and myself and othe Knick fans were dumbfounded that Lin wasn’t put back in. We wanted him to get a shot for over a month since all we had were 2-guards out of position.

Anyway, here is my just-posted take on Linsanity, what is real and what is fake from a Knicks perspective where I also offer a PMC hat tip…:

Anybody that I connect with, I will send them your stuff!

Anyway… “Linsanity”: What’s Real and What’s Not

http://www.popsspot.com/2012/02/behind-the-%e2%80%9clinsanity%e2%80%9d-what%e2%80%99s-real-and-what%e2%80%99s-not/

"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference". -- Elie Wiesel

by MODI on Feb 13, 2012 3:56 PM PST reply actions